^Isn't it a church now?

^yep. they are renting from the buckeye cdc.

I stopped by the Capitol Theatre last Sunday when it was supposed to be open to the public for viewing prior to renovations, but it was locked up tight.  Did anyone get in to see it?

It was passed unanimously, as was some financial assistance to the Variety Theater renovation on Lorain Road. I no longer cover the Variety Theater's area, however.

I am not sure how much the Moreland theater restoration makes sense. If it is used as a theater, it will probably not succeed due to the competition from Shaker Square and Cedar Lee. For some reason, I think that I heard that it won't be used for cinematic purposes.

 

I haven't heard the specifics about the proposal, but my intuition is that they are looking at it as more of a community arts space, potentially with live performances. It's an amenity that's loosely tied in to their plans to construct some really nice townhouses in the lower E. 120s (with ground-level flex space that could serve as a live-work storefront).

 

I stopped by the Capitol Theatre last Sunday when it was supposed to be open to the public for viewing prior to renovations, but it was locked up tight.  Did anyone get in to see it?

 

I stopped in while on the Red Ribbon Ride. It was still pretty rough, as you would imagine, but it's in much better condition than the Variety, from what I could tell. Both spaces have a great deal of potential. I haven't been in the Moreland, but it's in a pretty visible location, and its successful restoration would definitely be a great asset for the neighborhood.

great information eightshades!  I love reading your posts!

It's sad we left off here on a sour note.  How about this to change the tone?

 

Coming soon (late-November/early December): duoHOME interior design studio and home furnishings shop.  Now under construction on Detroit Avenue, west of 65th (next to Kitsch City)

 

www.duohome.com

 

Also, I've been frequenting Reddstone on W. 76th (the old Snickers spot) and I love it.  Very cozy and neighborhoody.  Keep in mind that Latitude (58th & Detroit) will be opening very soon and Stone Mad some day.  Plus, Luxe, just west of duoHome early next year?

(trumpets sounding)  Here come the/more gays! :wink:

Also, I've been frequenting Reddstone on W. 76th (the old Snickers spot) and I love it.  Very cozy and neighborhoody.  Keep in mind that Latitude (58th & Detroit) will be opening very soon and Stone Mad some day.  Plus, Luxe, just west of duoHome early next year?

 

My girlfriend is about to buy a place in Battery Park (and graciously allowing me to live there! ;).  We checked out Reddstone last week and it seemed like a great joint.  If all goes well, plans with our place should be finalized this Thursday and we'll be heading over to the grand opening afterwards for celebratory drinks.  Can't wait to see the full menu....I envision many a late night pizza order in the future. ;)

Hey BK -- welcome to the neighborhood! 

 

Our new house is under construction in Battery Park along West 76th -- one of the new single family homes.  Where will your new place be, if you can share? 

 

We saw them working on Redstone last night -- looked like they were cleaning and assembling bar stools.  Just hope the place isn't too noisy and raucous!

 

Best of luck to your girlfriend and you on the new place!  I think BP is going to be a great place to be!

Considering that the owners live a couple blocks over, they've pledged to be "good neighbors" and keep the peace outside of their venue.  I'm sure they'll hear from the community if they don't hold to it!

 

I've tried one of the pizzas already... fantastic!  The big opening is tomorrow night!

 

Congrats and welcome to the neighborhood BK & girlfriend!

Are you the Burger King?

nooo!  Detroit Shoreway already has one too many Burger Kings!

Thanks for the welcome jmjr and mapboy.  We are also looking at one of the single family homes on 76th, though it would not be next to yours.  Without saying the exact location, I think you can figure out where I am talking about from that.  :-)  The foundation is already down, so as long as things go as planned, they said 60-75 days until completion.  Hopefully we will be moving in at the end of the year or beginning of Jan.  I really don't think the noise will be too bad from the bar.  If anything it should add to the urban enviroment and along with the power plant lend some character to the neighborhood.  I am really stoked to moving into an area that seems to have so much going for it.

 

And no, I have nothing to do with Burger King though I did wear one of their crowns for my 30th birthday party earlier this year.  I was quite a sight to see with a BK crown, a suit, and heavily hindered motor skills.  :-D

lattitude is furnished and held some kind of reception a weekend back.  they don't appear to be completely open, but it looks nice inside.  it has a split dining room style, kind of like sage in tremont used to. 

Latitude is officially open as of this morning.

Latitude 41˚ N opened today and I had the pleasure of eating breakfast there.  The space has a very warm feeling with lots of exposed brick.  The menu is likely one of the most creative breakfast menus in the city.  I recall pan seared oatmeal with fruit compote and crumbled bacon among the selections.  They are open for breakfast, lunch, & dinner.

Do they have a website?

funny thing that.  I found a website, for a place in columbus of the same name.  I am no foodie, so I don't know if they do this kind of chain thing, at this level of restaurant.   

 

http://www.latitude41restaurant.com/

but Columbus is at 40 degrees North latitude... :?

 

and (because I am a total nerd), the 41st North latitude actually is just south of US 224 in most of Ohio, putting it just south of Lodi, Wadsworth, Norton, Barberton, passing through the Portage Lakes area, then just south of Boardman and Canfield in the Ytown area.

Latitude 41˚ N opened today and I had the pleasure of eating breakfast there.  The space has a very warm feeling with lots of exposed brick.  The menu is likely one of the most creative breakfast menus in the city.  I recall pan seared oatmeal with fruit compote and crumbled bacon among the selections.  They are open for breakfast, lunch, & dinner.

this is sounding like competition for my sweet Lucky's. the more the merrier!

Thanks for the welcome jmjr and mapboy.  We are also looking at one of the single family homes on 76th, though it would not be next to yours.  Without saying the exact location, I think you can figure out where I am talking about from that.  :-)  The foundation is already down, so as long as things go as planned, they said 60-75 days until completion.  Hopefully we will be moving in at the end of the year or beginning of Jan.  I really don't think the noise will be too bad from the bar.  If anything it should add to the urban enviroment and along with the power plant lend some character to the neighborhood.  I am really stoked to moving into an area that seems to have so much going for it.

 

And no, I have nothing to do with Burger King though I did wear one of their crowns for my 30th birthday party earlier this year.  I was quite a sight to see with a BK crown, a suit, and heavily hindered motor skills.  :-D

 

How amazing!  I wore the crown for my 40th!!!  My friend Ann has a tradition for BIG birthdays -- liquor you up and force the crown upon you.  Good thing I quit drinking -- 50 is not too far off!

OK 2 questions for you Detroit Shoreway residents and fans!

 

1) What's the scoop with the new contemporary going up next to the Shoreway at the end of a dead end street (I believe to be W. 58th St.)? It's progressing slowly but is starting to take form. It's extremely unique for Cleveland, particularly the open patio beneath the large windows that just went in. It's highly visible from the Shoreway - actually it's 100% visible from there. And now it looks like land has been cleared for additional construction directly next to it. Any word on this small BUT unique project?

 

2) W. 67th St. - wow! What an awesome street that I somehow never noticed, but the entire street has taken on an Italian theme. Everything from manhole covers to utility poles to front porches have been painted with Italian colors. Is this related to Fr. Caruso? When did this happen and what's the story behind it? It's very cool!

^#2 been that way for years :)

OK 2 questions for you Detroit Shoreway residents and fans!

 

1) What's the scoop with the new contemporary going up next to the Shoreway at the end of a dead end street (I believe to be W. 58th St.)? It's progressing slowly but is starting to take form. It's extremely unique for Cleveland, particularly the open patio beneath the large windows that just went in. It's highly visible from the Shoreway - actually it's 100% visible from there. And now it looks like land has been cleared for additional construction directly next to it. Any word on this small BUT unique project?

 

2) W. 67th St. - wow! What an awesome street that I somehow never noticed, but the entire street has taken on an Italian theme. Everything from manhole covers to utility poles to front porches have been painted with Italian colors. Is this related to Fr. Caruso? When did this happen and what's the story behind it? It's very cool!

 

 

1. those are townhouses. i know that an architect purchased one. Someone else has purchased the other.

 

2. I think that the Italian theme has been present for a the better part of a century.

1. I believe that's architect Robert Maschke's self-designed home that is the first big example of residential opportunities that are developing because of the proposed conversion of the shoreway into a boulevard. Someone else may have additional info on this.

 

2. I believe that is part of the "Big Italy" neighborhood and has historically been an Italian enclave. Again, someone else might have more specifics.

^Actually, "Big Italy" was the area along Woodland by E110th and Mt Carmel Parich East which is just north of Woodland.  The neighborhood you are talking about above is Mt Carmel Parish West which was also predominately Italian.  The signage seen there has been there for a while now.  I don't know for certain how long though. 

see page 3 of this thread and pictures of my building on 69th st.

^^I thought Big Italy was closer to downtown than that -- like E 30s-50s and Central-ish? An area that is now almost entirely public housing.

I thought Big Italy was the south side of Woodland in the high 30s/low 40s

From the map I have, most of Big Italy appears to have been where the section of I-77 during it's little eastward jog is as well as Tri-C and the projects in that area.  It would have started just east of the south end of East 9th and continued out into the East 30's.

That's what a number of Cleveland mob books I have say as well, X. Needless to say, that stuff is fascinating reading.

Yeah I beleive Robert Maschke had designed a couple of houses for that site.  One was for the artist Hector Vega, but I don't know if that is still the case.

 

Another thing that I heard thrown around seems to be taking place.  At the corner of Franklin and 65th, at the old Rite Aid, they seem to be doing quite a bit of demo the last couple of days.  Not sure if they are tearing the whole building down and building new or just selective demo.  I heard that the Cleveland Clinic was going to open up some sort of medical offices at this corner.  Anybody heard anything concrete?  At least the construction or deconstruction has started.

Found this Free Times article on Cheddars taking over Snickers space and Latitude 41n opening.  Also discusses Bar Cento in Ohio City....looks interesting, but won't paste here to stay on topic.

http://www.freetimes.com/stories/15/25/bar-centro-cheddars-latitude-41n

 

"Cheddars is kicking butt," says owner Ron Heinbaugh. "The restaurant is doing so well that we needed more room and decided to combine it with Snickers." The restaurant, with 21 riffs on mac and cheese, has moved into the larger space next door (5800 Detroit Ave., 216.631.7555). Snickers is now officially Cheddars and boasts a menu that encompasses items from both restaurants.

 

Kathy Brown, the original owner of Snickers, has opened Latitude 41n (5712 Detroit Ave., 216.961.0000). Described by Brown as "an upscale wi-fi diner serving breakfast, lunch, dinner and Sunday brunch buffet," the 85-seat space features a lounge area, counter space, and tables and chairs. Items include a pan-seared oatmeal pancake topped with house-made fruit compote, a breakfast pizza with chorizo, Mexican tequila shrimp salad, homemade soups, sandwiches and pot roast.

 

I just tried calling Latitude and Cheddars to ask if they had a websites, but both replied no.

That's awesome they're doing so well! Man .. with all the stuff coming to this neighborhood, I'm really excited about it.

Was just in Cheddar's today for lunch (apparently they just recently opened for lunch on Saturdays).  Food was good and not too expensive.  I liked they decor, although it was not at all what I expected from a mac 'n cheese place (kind of a 30s Art Deco motif) or a place called Snickers' Tavern.  Beautiful vintage bar in there, too.

The scuttle butt on that home site is that plans have come and gone over the past few years and that just maybe he has decided on what way to go. And btw, welcome to Urban Ohio BK. This has to be the most informative place about our area on the WWW.

Ate at Cheddar's last night, for the first time since they combined with Snicker's.  My the decor is much nicer now, but I really wasn't angling for such a nice place last night; my friend and I felt a little underdressed.

Detroit Shoreway Community Development Organization has posted the Detroit Shoreway Master Plan, which was completed in September: http://www.dscdo.org/images/detroit_shoreway_neighborhood_plan.pdf. 

 

There isn't alot that's really new in it, though it gives a nice summary of what is underway, and how it connects.  That in itself is very impressive, as this neighborhood is really taking off.  There is also a nice image of the new Near West Theater in it, which is very interesting looking.

 

 

1. I believe that's architect Robert Maschke's self-designed home that is the first big example of residential opportunities that are developing because of the proposed conversion of the shoreway into a boulevard. Someone else may have additional info on this.

 

2. I believe that is part of the "Big Italy" neighborhood and has historically been an Italian enclave. Again, someone else might have more specifics.

 

1. Yes, and I believe there are 3 to be built in all.  I would not call them townhomes, but more something that you might see on a hollywood hill

 

2. Are we not talking about W. 69th?  This is the one with all the cute little buildings and the painted Italy in the street...

In other news (from the D-S newsletter), the Capitol Theatre renovations are slated to begin in the Spring of 2008 with a late-fall 2008 grand opening (sounds bold).

 

duoHome, discussed previously on this site, is scheduled to open on Nov. 23rd, just in time for the holiday shopping season!  They'll feature an assortment of interior decorating items, such as contemporary furniture and home decor accessories, as well as many "green" product options.

 

Room Service will also open on the 23rd, directly adjacent to duoHome and Kitsch City, across from the Gordon Square Arcarde.  Again, home accessories, furniture, vintage items, jewelry & gift items, are some of the offerings.

 

This stretch of Detroit is filling up! 

 

 

1. I believe that's architect Robert Maschke's self-designed home that is the first big example of residential opportunities that are developing because of the proposed conversion of the shoreway into a boulevard. Someone else may have additional info on this.

 

2. I believe that is part of the "Big Italy" neighborhood and has historically been an Italian enclave. Again, someone else might have more specifics.

 

1. Yes, and I believe there are 3 to be built in all.  I would not call them townhomes, but more something that you might see on a hollywood hill

 

2. Are we not talking about W. 69th?  This is the one with all the cute little buildings and the painted Italy in the street...

 

2. I think that's what's being talked about - for those unfamiliar with it, here are about ten pictures of those streets from about a month ago...

 

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/561015482EyfhKW

^ Is this W69th north of Detroit?

Yes, check out page 3 of this thread for photos of my apartment building that my grandfather built in 1914.

Nice pics JeffreyT!  I took some myself the other day, but I haven't gotten them up on here yet.

after looking at the det-shor pdf I finally got the landing spot for the nwt straight.  and in the above image, there is a pedestrian courtyard, where a small leather shop stands.  that is if I am understanding this at all. 

 

also, the pdf contains images for the battery park to edgewater tunnel plans.  everything looks excellent.  hopefully when the market stops taking a crap, I can buy a home in the neighborhood.   

hopefully when the market stops taking a crap, I can buy a home in the neighborhood.    

 

Unless you have to sell a home to buy a new one, now is a great time to be in the buyers market, assuming you can get financing.

I would tend to agree, esp is you do not want to resell anytime soon (jam packed market).  Also the forclosures have not hit peak yet either, meaning if you live in a transitional nabe, there could be more boarded homes to come. it's too  bad it is not easy to check the financial stability of a block or street before investing as some areas are more stable than others- factors such as long term ownership, owner occupied, mortgage from a legitimate lender come to mind.  my general guess from being out an about in DS, the more stable areas will be near Gordan Square, Bat. Park area, and north of Detroit. Not that the other areas are bad, just vary a lot from street to street.

hopefully when the market stops taking a crap, I can buy a home in the neighborhood.    

 

Unless you have to sell a home to buy a new one, now is a great time to be in the buyers market, assuming you can get financing.

 

but maybe he or she has to sell a house first before being able to purchase another.

it's too  bad it is not easy to check the financial stability of a block or street before investing as some areas are more stable than others- factors such as long term ownership, owner occupied, mortgage from a legitimate lender come to mind. 

 

While it's not easy per se, it is possible. A really great resource is NEOCANDO (http://neocando.case.edu/cando/index.jsp). Once you know a parcel number or a census tract, you can find a full range of data about neighborhood and building indicators. And while it's not exactly user-friendly, REDIS (http://www.clevelandplussites.com/) is another great tool; you can put in a particular address and find a plethora of demographic, consumer expenditure and business/workforce data within a certain number of miles or minutes drive-time.

 

A while back I used this data to identify census tracts in the city where single-family and two-family homes were relatively cheap, crime relatively low, and relatively large percentages of residents were walking or using public transportation to get to work. Six census tracts (the western portion of Tremont, the blocks south of Shaker Square in the E. 120s and four tracts in greater University Circle) were in the top half of census tracts for all of these categories. So you can do the research ... it's just time-consuming and still provides only a limited picture of how the market of tomorrow is going to respond to positive indicators of today.