It already is Nevada and Rhode Island.  48 states to go.

 

If you're pro choice, pro gambling, pro pot use, and so on, it seems you should be pro prostitution.  If you're pro people not starving to death or anti black market, I'd think you'd be pro prostutition.

 

If you can't tell, I vehemently believe people should have the right to sell their bodies for sex.  Better the government gets a cut rather than some scumbag pimp.

It already is Nevada and Rhode Island.  48 states to go.

 

If you're pro choice, pro gambling, pro pot use, and so on, it seems you should be pro prostitution.  If you're pro people not starving to death or anti black market, I'd think you'd be pro prostutition.

 

If you can't tell, I vehemently believe people should have the right to sell their bodies for sex.  Better the government gets a cut rather than some scumbag pimp.

 

This should be made in to a poll.

Of course.

Absolutely.

now would either of you healthy young men pay for sex?

now would either of you healthy young men pay for sex?

 

No way.  But live and let live.

Yes.

Yes, should be legal IMO.

now would either of you healthy young men pay for sex?

 

every day, one way or another......

now would either of you healthy young men pay for sex?

 

every day, one way or another......

 

LMAO

now would either of you healthy young men pay for sex?

 

every day, one way or another......

 

You're lucky she doesn't read this.  But yes, you're totally right.

I would be in so much trouble!!!

 

We have Craigslist, which is about as legal as you can get for Ohio.

 

Disclaimer: Sherman Cahal does not use Craigslist in a manner to prostitute or to solicit for prostitutes. The above commentary was merely meant as an alternative to standing on a street corner in the West End in high-heels and stockings, flinging around a purse and a cigarette.

^pretty gray area with the legality of massage parlours.  I've heard about some of them getting busted before

We have Craigslist, which is about as legal as you can get for Ohio.

 

Disclaimer: Sherman Cahal does not use Craigslist in a manner to prostitute or to solicit for prostitutes. The above commentary was merely meant as an alternative to standing on a street corner in the West End in high-heels and stockings, flinging around a purse and a cigarette.

 

So, that was you!  :-o

We have Craigslist, which is about as legal as you can get for Ohio.

 

Disclaimer: Sherman Cahal does not use Craigslist in a manner to prostitute or to solicit for prostitutes. The above commentary was merely meant as an alternative to standing on a street corner in the West End in high-heels and stockings, flinging around a purse and a cigarette.

 

So, that was you!  :o

Shermaine fooled us.  We thought David was a queen in training!  ummmmm.

Re: massage parlors, go to Warren.  They've got to be the US capitol of Asian massage parlors.  It's unreal how many there are there, and how open they are about being there.  Big billboards.  Group ads in the Free Times for places all over Warren.

 

In Columbus I lived next door to a rental dominatrix. :whip: She sometimes taped it and let us hear some.  She was pretty open about it, so I assumed it was legal.  I also assumed she never had sex with them because she was gay, and she didn't work with girls.  She was ordering people to drink out of their toilets and stuff like that.  She was also, in real life, some kind of priestess.  Or at least she said that's what the knife was for. 

 

So I agree, a little regulation might be best for everyone.

 

One of the topics suggested, and rejected by me, for my big thesis paper was that prostitution should be legal for the sake of those who can't get anything else.  They have needs and they have rights too.  It's better if they don't keep it bottled up for years on end.  Interesting argument, but unnecessary, because there's no reason to make it illegal in the first place.

This kind of immoral behavior could drag down whole communities.  Next thing, we will see establishments where men can approach within six feet and touch dancers.

It's a recession.  Yes.

Absolutely. 

Yes, it should be legal (as well as regulated and taxed).

^pretty gray area with the legality of massage parlours. I've heard about some of them getting busted before

 

I always found it interesting, but not surprising, that out on rural I-94 between Kalamazoo and Battle Creek there's a bunch of adult book stores and Asian massage parlors together off the exits.

Its amazing, a woman can make a choice to kill a beautiful living baby, but can't choose to sell herself!  Pro-Choice!!!!

I was one of the two people that voted no. I know its going to happen whether its legal or not, but I don't think that society should condone it. I also don't think that law enforcement should go out of its way to search for though. Our law enforcement has (or should have) better ways to spend their time. In other words I'm ok with some of it happening behind closed doors, but I don't think we should allow it in the open. Feel free to criticise me and my opinion now.

^I'm just curious, do you believe it should be illegal for religious reasons, concerns of  transmission of STDs, morality issues, etc?  I'm just wondering exactly why you're against it being a legal and regulated practice.  And do you consider strip clubs, escort services, massage parlours, marrying for money, and other things like that to be similar evils?

 

 

I actually voted "Hell no".  For my own sake, I would never do it for religious beliefs, and most importantly, respect for my wife and kids.  However, you can not keep it illegal for those reasons.  As far as keeping it illegal, for me it would be do to the transmission of STD's most importantly.  Secondly, I view the establishments that would condone this if it were legal,as a gateway to much more severe crime other than prostitution.  Finally, I really don't see it becoming legal in Ohio breing they make strippers stay something like 6 or 8 feet away from patrons now.  Go ahead, blast me.   

^I'm just curious, do you believe it should be illegal for religious reasons, concerns of transmission of STDs, morality issues, etc? I'm just wondering exactly why you're against it being a legal and regulated practice. And do you consider strip clubs, escort services, massage parlours, marrying for money, and other things like that to be similar evils?

 

 

 

Why do you think they should be legal?  No one really gave a good response on that yet. 

I actually voted "Hell no".  For my own sake, I would never do it for religious beliefs, and most importantly, respect for my wife and kids.  However, you can not keep it illegal for those reasons.  As far as keeping it illegal, for me it would be do to the transmission of STD's most importantly.  Secondly, I view the establishments that would condone this if it were legal,as a gateway to much more severe crime other than prostitution.  Finally, I really don't see it becoming legal in Ohio breing they make strippers stay something like 6 or 8 feet away from patrons now.  Go ahead, blast me.   

 

I'm not going to blast anyone on this, but aren't you lucky society approves of the things you like to do.  I view this like I do most other social issues:  Regardless of what I like personally, who am I to exert dominion over my neighbor if they want to do something different?  If they're hurting me, that's another issue.  Religion is a "gateway" to all sorts of carnage, historically-- I daresay it's responsible for a lot more heartache than prostitution ever could be.  All the same, people have a right to their religion, no matter how much I may personally disagree. 

^The way that I look at is that people with nefarious goals coopted religion to advance their goals.  Hence, the King reinforces that he is there by "divine right".  My other observation is that people are "wired" for spiritual belief. 

Where is "hell yeah" ?

 

prostitution=money in the cities

"Why do you think they should be legal?  No one really gave a good response on that yet."

 

There are a lot of reasons it should be legal. 

 

1. It beats your and your children starving.  And it's not like every prostitute can easily get another job or go to school. 

2. There are a lot of horrible jobs out there (coal mining anyone?) as it is.  Why is this so much worse than that? 

3. I believe in personal autonomy; if doesn't directly hurt anyone else, then do what you want.  And I don't buy the argument that society is directly hurt by prostitution either.

4. I'm pro choice and a lot of those arguments (your body is your property) could be made here.

5. Better the government gets a cut than some gangster.  Plus they could regulate it and impose safety regulations to combat STD transmissions.

6. Police could actually focus on dangerous criminals instead of routinely locking up prostitutes and making them pay a fine.

7. Plenty of vices are already legal i.e. alcohol, tobacco, probably pot in the near future, and they probably have a similar negative utility as does prostitution. 

8. Two states have already fully legalized it, though I believe prostitutes in Rhode Island cannot openly promote themselves.

9. Prostitution is already legal in various incarnations i.e. marrying for money, porn stars, escort services, massage parlors, etc.  Yeah there are some distinctions, but basically it's the same thing.

10. A lot of prostitutes are abused severely with little recourse.  Legalizing it would protect them.

 

 

 

 

"Why do you think they should be legal?  No one really gave a good response on that yet."

 

There are a lot of reasons it should be legal. 

 

1. It beats your and your children starving.  And it's not like these prostitutes can easily get another job or go to school. 

2. There are a lot of horrible jobs out there (coal mining anyone?) as it is.  Why is this so much worse than that? 

3. I believe in personal autonomy; if doesn't directly hurt anyone else, then do what you want.  And I don't buy the argument that society is directly hurt by prostitution either.

4. I'm pro choice and a lot of those arguments (your body is your property) could be made here.

5. Better the government gets a cut than some gangster.  Plus they could regulate it and impose safety regulations to combat STD transmissions.

6. Police could actually focus on dangerous criminals instead of routinely locking up prostitutes and making them pay a fine.

7. Plenty of vices are already legal i.e. alcohol, tobacco, probably pot in the near future, and they probably have a similar negative utility as does prostitution. 

8. Two states have already fully legalized it, though I believe prostitutes in Rhode Island cannot openly promote themselves.

9. Prostitution is already legal in various incarnations i.e. marrying for money, porn stars, escort services, massage parlors, etc.  Yeah there are some distinctions, but basically it's the same thing.

10. A lot of prostitutes are abused severely with little recourse.  Legalizing it would protect them.

 

 

 

 

We should note that "prostitutes" are male and female and many people prostitute "on the side" already.

IMO outlawing any sex between 2 consenting adults is wrong.  If a person wants to get paid for the act and another person wants to pay, why stand in the way of their business transaction? Because you don't "like" it or it's "immoral?" Blah.  It's win-win for both of them.  I believe if it were legal it would make it much less dangerous, not to mention not waste taxpayer money trying to catch those involved in the transaction, either as buyer or seller, which could free up resources for other, more important crimes.

"Why do you think they should be legal?  No one really gave a good response on that yet."

 

There are a lot of reasons it should be legal. 

 

1. It beats your and your children starving.  And it's not like every prostitute can easily get another job or go to school. 

2. There are a lot of horrible jobs out there (coal mining anyone?) as it is.  Why is this so much worse than that? 

3. I believe in personal autonomy; if doesn't directly hurt anyone else, then do what you want.  And I don't buy the argument that society is directly hurt by prostitution either.

4. I'm pro choice and a lot of those arguments (your body is your property) could be made here.

5. Better the government gets a cut than some gangster.  Plus they could regulate it and impose safety regulations to combat STD transmissions.

6. Police could actually focus on dangerous criminals instead of routinely locking up prostitutes and making them pay a fine.

7. Plenty of vices are already legal i.e. alcohol, tobacco, probably pot in the near future, and they probably have a similar negative utility as does prostitution. 

8. Two states have already fully legalized it, though I believe prostitutes in Rhode Island cannot openly promote themselves.

9. Prostitution is already legal in various incarnations i.e. marrying for money, porn stars, escort services, massage parlors, etc.  Yeah there are some distinctions, but basically it's the same thing.

10. A lot of prostitutes are abused severely with little recourse.  Legalizing it would protect them.

 

 

1.) Can you really look your kids in the face and tell them your living involves having sex with strangers. 

2.) I will not even compare coal mining to having sex for money.  That is absurd.

3.) That holds true with alot of things.  Do drugs hurt others if you are the only one doing them.  If you are driving 150 mph on a freeway in the middle of night with no one around, should you be exempt from a ticket. 

4.) Same as above.  Your body is your body.  If it dosent effect anyone else, go do it. 

5.)  I'll agree with that.  But the government should think of a more creative way to increase tax revenue.  And they shouldn't have to waste their time on writing legislation for prostitution.

6.) Alot of times, prostitution does involve a dangerous criminal....pimps are not really the safest of people to be around. 

7.) Sure.

8.) Lets see what positive effects it has on those states.

9.) I do not agree to those comparisons...especially marrying for money. 

10.) I don't think protitutes get beat up because it is illegal.  Probably get beat up because a man paying for something thinks he should get "more bang for his buck".  Nothing at all would change here, and you actually brought up one of the main reasons it is illegal.

 

Think to yourself why it was made illegal years ago, and it wasn't for religious purposes.  Think of those reasons.  It wasn't made illegal for the heck of it. 

This poll makes UrbanOhio look like a big collection of guys who can't get laid ;-)

 

You guys should prefer it stay the way it is, you really want red tape getting in the way of your Saturday evenings?

"1.) Can you really look your kids in the face and tell them your living involves having sex with strangers. "

 

What do you call porn stars?  And better you explain to your kids that you have to make sacrifices rather than not eating, receiving meds, having a home, etc?

 

"2.) I will not even compare coal mining to having sex for money.  That is absurd."

 

It was an example of there already being incredibly dangerous jobs that are legal.  And if you think that black lung is better than ANY STD, than that is absurd.

 

3.) "That holds true with alot of things.  Do drugs hurt others if you are the only one doing them.  If you are driving 150 mph on a freeway in the middle of night with no one around, should you be exempt from a ticket."

 

I believe that peope should be allowed to use drugs, provided they are legalized.  And if you're getting a ticket for driving 150 mph, then clearly there is someone around.  Bottom line - do what you want provided you don't directly harm anyone else.

 

4.) "Same as above.  Your body is your body.  If it dosent effect anyone else, go do it." 

 

So we agree here?

 

5.)  "I'll agree with that.  But the government should think of a more creative way to increase tax revenue.  And they shouldn't have to waste their time on writing legislation for prostitution."

 

But it's okay for them to waste their time and our money arresting prostitutes, sometimes prosecuting them?  And I'm not saying prostitution would be an end all to this depression - just that it should not be illegal. 

 

6.) "Alot of times, prostitution does involve a dangerous criminal....pimps are not really the safest of people to be around."

 

I think you missed my point completely here.  I want prostitution to be legal so there are regulations, safety nets, security.  Treat prostitutes like any other employee, which includes all the benefits of freedom of harrassment, abuse, being pimp slapped, etc. 

 

"7.) Sure."

 

"(8.) Lets see what positive effects it has on those states."

 

Prostitution isn't going to make or break a state economy and I doubt it ever has.  But you know what, at least some women and gay men (I doubt there are that many straight male prostitutes unless they have gay clientle) have jobs from which their respective state is receiving tax revenue. 

 

"9.) I do not agree to those comparisons...especially marrying for money."

 

Come on, you must agree the differences are nominal at best.  And with my 'marrying for money' jab, you don't think Anna Nicole Smith was a whore when she married that old guy?

 

 

"10.) I don't think protitutes get beat up because it is illegal.  Probably get beat up because a man paying for something thinks he should get "more bang for his buck".  Nothing at all would change here, and you actually brought up one of the main reasons it is illegal."

 

I've already addressed this.  My boss and clients can't beat me up because there are all kinds of laws, be it labor, civil, criminal, to protect me.  Prostitutes don't exactly have the same kind of protections yet (would a drug dealer go to the police because someone stole his heroin?) so we institutionalize it and grant them these rights!

 

 

This poll makes UrbanOhio look like a big collection of guys who can't get laid ;-)

 

Speak for yourself! :)

"Why do you think they should be legal?  No one really gave a good response on that yet."

 

There are a lot of reasons it should be legal. 

 

1. It beats your and your children starving.  And it's not like every prostitute can easily get another job or go to school. 

2. There are a lot of horrible jobs out there (coal mining anyone?) as it is.  Why is this so much worse than that? 

3. I believe in personal autonomy; if doesn't directly hurt anyone else, then do what you want.  And I don't buy the argument that society is directly hurt by prostitution either.

4. I'm pro choice and a lot of those arguments (your body is your property) could be made here.

5. Better the government gets a cut than some gangster.  Plus they could regulate it and impose safety regulations to combat STD transmissions.

6. Police could actually focus on dangerous criminals instead of routinely locking up prostitutes and making them pay a fine.

7. Plenty of vices are already legal i.e. alcohol, tobacco, probably pot in the near future, and they probably have a similar negative utility as does prostitution. 

8. Two states have already fully legalized it, though I believe prostitutes in Rhode Island cannot openly promote themselves.

9. Prostitution is already legal in various incarnations i.e. marrying for money, porn stars, escort services, massage parlors, etc.  Yeah there are some distinctions, but basically it's the same thing.

10. A lot of prostitutes are abused severely with little recourse.  Legalizing it would protect them.

 

 

1.) Can you really look your kids in the face and tell them your living involves having sex with strangers. 

2.) I will not even compare coal mining to having sex for money.  That is absurd.

3.) That holds true with alot of things.  Do drugs hurt others if you are the only one doing them.  If you are driving 150 mph on a freeway in the middle of night with no one around, should you be exempt from a ticket. 

4.) Same as above.  Your body is your body.  If it dosent effect anyone else, go do it. 

5.)  I'll agree with that.  But the government should think of a more creative way to increase tax revenue.  And they shouldn't have to waste their time on writing legislation for prostitution.

6.) Alot of times, prostitution does involve a dangerous criminal....pimps are not really the safest of people to be around. 

7.) Sure.

8.) Lets see what positive effects it has on those states.

9.) I do not agree to those comparisons...especially marrying for money. 

10.) I don't think protitutes get beat up because it is illegal.  Probably get beat up because a man paying for something thinks he should get "more bang for his buck".  Nothing at all would change here, and you actually brought up one of the main reasons it is illegal.

 

Think to yourself why it was made illegal years ago, and it wasn't for religious purposes.  Think of those reasons.  It wasn't made illegal for the heck of it. 

 

1.)  Same goes for financiers and oilmen right now.  Immorality comes in many forms.

2.)  I don't get that either.

3-4.)  Your sarcastic point about the freeway has unintended merit.

5-6.)  If it's legal, there are no pimps.  Driving popular markets into the "black" causes trouble.

7.)  Sure.

8.)  People like those states more than they do Ohio.  Closer call on RI, to be sure.

9.)  I think those comparisons are dead on-- especially marrying for money.  A is A.

10.)  Giving prostitutes a legal cause of action, one unhindered by their own "unclean hands," would give them a giant weapon to point at abusive clients.

i'm down as yes.

 

i mean if you think about it aren't we all paying for it in one form or another anyway?  :laugh:

 

but seriously if it was legalized and regulated it would defiantly keep disease and the pimp hand down.

 

 

i'm down as yes.

 

i mean if you think about it aren't we all paying for it in one form or another anyway?  :laugh:

but seriously if it was legalized and regulated it would defiantly keep disease and the pimp hand down.

 

 

No. 

All joking aside, it does degrade the individual.  From that standpoint, I would not legalize it.  I think society has a right and an obligation to mankind to maintain some semblance of order.

Geez, yes! I could use the extra money! :-D

All joking aside, it does degrade the individual.  From that standpoint, I would not legalize it.  I think society has a right and an obligation to mankind to maintain some semblance of order.

 

Hypothetically, if I think people kneeling in church degrades the individual... that has no bearing on their right to do it, or my right to stop them.  Let freedom ring!

1.) Can you really look your kids in the face and tell them your living involves having sex with strangers.

 

If you went to college, you probably already did that. Honestly, who hasn't hooked up with strangers at some point in their lives? Welcome to America. Having sex with strangers is as American as apple pie. This is a hook-up culture, not a marriage culture.

 

 

C-Dawg, that's YOUR AGE GROUPS culture.  I think you might want to rephrase that. 

1.) Can you really look your kids in the face and tell them your living involves having sex with strangers.

 

If you went to college, you probably already did that. Honestly, who hasn't hooked up with strangers at some point in their lives? Welcome to America. Having sex with strangers is as American as apple pie. This is a hook-up culture, not a marriage culture.

 

2.) I will not even compare coal mining to having sex for money. That is absurd.

 

Not at all. Both carry a risk on contracting serious disease. There's lots of danger in both of the professions.

 

5.) I'll agree with that. But the government should think of a more creative way to increase tax revenue. And they shouldn't have to waste their time on writing legislation for prostitution.

 

That won't happen as some states snake away business through large incentives, free land, etc. States like Ohio could benefit greatly by legalized prostitution. Our soon to be bankrupt school system especially needs it.

 

9.) I do not agree to those comparisons...especially marrying for money.

 

What's wrong with paying for sex? That's much better than having a one night stand and never calling the person again, which plenty of Americans do on a regular basis. At least there's an understanding when you pay for it.

 

I don't think protitutes get beat up because it is illegal. Probably get beat up because a man paying for something thinks he should get "more bang for his buck". Nothing at all would change here, and you actually brought up one of the main reasons it is illegal.

 

Is this a joke?

 

I don't know a single person who has hooked up with a stranger... that must be the OU culture. That isn't to say it doesn't occur, it just that it is more the exception than the rule.

I don't know a single person who has hooked up with a stranger... that must be the OU culture. That isn't to say it doesn't occur, it just that it is more the exception than the rule.

 

No, it's not just OU or college culture. It is the hook-up culture that is established nationwide and will continue since it is now the dominant form of sexuality in under 30 crowd (the rule, not the exception to the rule). It's either a stranger or someone you barely know (same thing). Knowing someone for a week still counts as a "stranger." "Friends with benefits," etc. all comes down the same basic mentality, no commitment.

 

Sure people get a regular sexual partner for a while, but look how much they cheat and look what happens as soon as they break up. We've been raised to not be trustworthy. Real commitment could be a thing of the past...America's morals are already gone. Prostitution won't make it any worse.

 

I don't see any moral difference between having sex with someone completely unattached and using a hooker.

 

WE???????  I don't know what your life experiences are nor your social group, but when it come to sex, you at times, seem to equate your experience as the norm and it isn't.

I have 2 daughters in the under 30 crowd, and I know this is not their culture, and I'm not being naive.

All joking aside, it does degrade the individual. From that standpoint, I would not legalize it. I think society has a right and an obligation to mankind to maintain some semblance of order.

 

I thought you were also a Ron Paul fan?

I'm in the under 30 crowd.. I'm 22. And I still don't know a SINGLE person who lives in that manner. I have not been raised to not be trustworthy and I am VERY sorry that you have had the types of experiences in your life that have made you the cynical person you are today.

I have 2 daughters in the under 30 crowd, and I know this is not their culture, and I'm not being naive.

 

You might be. Have you ever really talked to them about their experience or the experience of their peer group (not that most parents would ever want to)? And anecdotes don't equate to trends.

 

As a matter of fact, I have.  As a single parent, raising them alone since they were babies, we have a very open and honest relationship.  I know a lot about them and their lifestyles, but even more about their friends and peer group.  It is nothing as you say.  You couldn't get close to these girls OR their friends.