February 13, 200916 yr I see it CDawg's way too. Wish it weren't so, but life's not a movie. My prime was in college. Recently I've been dating more but nothing's really come of it. I seem to only get the crazies, that's always been the way. And the ones I click with are always taken. I hear that same story from a lot of people, and since it it's me too, I'm inclined to believe most of them. But I would never pay. I'm a normal looking dude who eats too much and doesn't work out. Yet I still believe I can hook up with anyone, on a good day, even though that's never been true. That's the way you have to live. I take what comes. I don't think transactions should be involved in it, but who am I to say. It's better to have that happening within society than outside of it.
February 13, 200916 yr Nice neck tattoo! Nothing says high class more so than that. Cops: Craigslist ads solicited sex By Jennifer Baker, Cincinnati Enquirer, February 13, 2009 Police said they busted a prostitution operation late Thursday that solicited customers off the Web site Craigslist. Jeremy Bruce, 24, and Amy Engel, 22, were arrested on prostitution charges at a residence in the 6200 block of Stover Avenue, said Golf Manor Police Detective Michael Forrest. Police opened an investigation after receiving a tip that Bruce was posting regular ads soliciting customers for prostitution. Craigslist is a popular online classified advertising site. It prohibits soliciting illegal activity. The ads, some of which are still online, feature naked photographs of Engel and another woman who is suspected of working as a prostitute, Forrest said. The ads date to early January and were posted as recently as Thursday. Ironically, Forrest noted, Bruce even posted one recent ad just an hour after he was released from the Hamilton County jail after being charged with a minor unrelated offense. Police conducted surveillance at the house Thursday and used an undercover Cincinnati police vice officer to help them make the arrests, Forrest said. They also recorded about 15 suspected customers coming and going from the home in the last week. “During our surveillance, we were looking at guys dropping their kids off and then going to visit these prostitutes,” Forrest said in a phone interview this morning. “They were busy. We had to find a way to squeeze our guys in.” Late Thursday, assisted by Amberley Village police, Golf Manor investigators entered the house with a search warrant and took Bruce and Engel into custody. They also seized several items: computers, televisions, other electronics, and $875 in cash, Forrest said. The case remains under investigation and more arrests could follow, he said. Hamilton County Municipal Court Judge Heather Russell this morning set bond for Bruce at $50,000. Bruce's lawyer, Chris Jackson, told Russell, "This was massage sort of thing more than prostitution." Engel was released early from the Hamilton County Jail due to overcrowding and ordered to appear in court. She did not show up and warrant was issued for her arrest. The Enquirer will update this story as information develops.
February 13, 200916 yr Nice neck tattoo! Nothing says high class more so than that. Cops: Craigslist ads solicited sex By Jennifer Baker, Cincinnati Enquirer, February 13, 2009 Police said they busted a prostitution operation late Thursday that solicited customers off the Web site Craigslist. Jeremy Bruce, 24, and Amy Engel, 22, were arrested on prostitution charges at a residence in the 6200 block of Stover Avenue, said Golf Manor Police Detective Michael Forrest. Police opened an investigation after receiving a tip that Bruce was posting regular ads soliciting customers for prostitution. Craigslist is a popular online classified advertising site. It prohibits soliciting illegal activity. The ads, some of which are still online, feature naked photographs of Engel and another woman who is suspected of working as a prostitute, Forrest said. The ads date to early January and were posted as recently as Thursday. Ironically, Forrest noted, Bruce even posted one recent ad just an hour after he was released from the Hamilton County jail after being charged with a minor unrelated offense. Police conducted surveillance at the house Thursday and used an undercover Cincinnati police vice officer to help them make the arrests, Forrest said. They also recorded about 15 suspected customers coming and going from the home in the last week. “During our surveillance, we were looking at guys dropping their kids off and then going to visit these prostitutes,” Forrest said in a phone interview this morning. “They were busy. We had to find a way to squeeze our guys in.” Late Thursday, assisted by Amberley Village police, Golf Manor investigators entered the house with a search warrant and took Bruce and Engel into custody. They also seized several items: computers, televisions, other electronics, and $875 in cash, Forrest said. The case remains under investigation and more arrests could follow, he said. Hamilton County Municipal Court Judge Heather Russell this morning set bond for Bruce at $50,000. Bruce's lawyer, Chris Jackson, told Russell, "This was massage sort of thing more than prostitution." Engel was released early from the Hamilton County Jail due to overcrowding and ordered to appear in court. She did not show up and warrant was issued for her arrest. The Enquirer will update this story as information develops. Sherman, you mean you don't have neck tat like "riff-raff" on G's to Gents?
February 13, 200916 yr Geez, yes! I could use the extra money! :-D Still sweet and innocent, eh? Absolutely. I would never do anything illegal.
February 13, 200916 yr All joking aside, it does degrade the individual. From that standpoint, I would not legalize it. I think society has a right and an obligation to mankind to maintain some semblance of order. I thought you were also a Ron Paul fan? And if you don't support the president, you are with the terrorists.
February 13, 200916 yr Go into any high school or college.. you'll find out c-dawg is right Well that's great. Then based off the fact that high school and college kids are having sex with strangers all the time, we should legalize prostitution. C-Dawg, I have told you before, and I will say it again. College is very unrepresentative of what life really is. College is pretty much four years of spring break (I always wondered why college kids spent money to go on spring break). Yes, I did go to college and shared in many of the same experiences that you did. My point, just because hooking up in college occurs, it is not the norm for life. Trust me, as you get older, you will see that hooking up drops off the shelf very qucikly. Obviously in college, it is the norm because there are a bunch of kids in the same situation at the same parties together getting drunk all the time. I have a couple friends in their late thirties/early forties that are currently single probably haven't been with someone in a year (well I have not asked them but I know). That is the truth. Anyhow, sorry to get off the point. But, if you think making prostitution readily available for all adults over 18 is a good idea, than go for it. If you think divorce rates over 50% right now are bad, they would only get worse. Broken families in America are growing by the year, and this really wouldn't help. And if you say marrige takes will power, than you are a hypocrite, because as stated above, we are only human.
February 13, 200916 yr I have to agree with gotribe, and I went to college a LONG time ago. maybe it depends on the crowd you run with, but there was certainly plenty of "hooking up" with nearly virtual strangers when I went, and it continued on in the immediate post-college years as well when you have nothing to do but work during the day and hit the bars every night. I think it's a product of the age group more than some particular "generation" or whatever. You grow out of it.
February 13, 200916 yr College has changed in thirty years. I was busy with assignments while I was there. My roommate and I wrote this tune--sung to the melody of the "Good girls don't" by the Knack: Well, I call her on the phone and we talk about her teachers and her grades. And she says she's all alone and she's going to do some studying today So I start to make my plans To write my lab report, because I thought I heard her say Purdue girls don't Purdue girls don't Purdue girls don't so I don't
February 13, 200916 yr That happens by lack of hook-up environment for many people, not choice. It's not like people suddenly say they're ready to settle down and marry after having slept with a couple dozen people in high school and college. I disagree. Most people have had their fill of the dating scene by the time they get to a certain age. "a certain age" varies from person to person, but I can tell you, when I was single and in my 30s, pretty much everyone I knew who was also still single was sick of the bar scene, you get tired of the casual, no strings attached hook up and want someone you can rely on as a date or who can be counted on to show up or to go out to eat with or whatever.
February 13, 200916 yr I know people of many ages, sometimes advanced ages, who hook up pretty randomly. I know plenty more people of all ages who rarely hook up at all. Then there's those who honestly don't see things that way. They're looking for "the one" and that's all that matters to them. Those people are almost always lonely, it seems. Rarely do they find what they're looking for. I think it has less to do eras or stages of life (which do factor in) and more to do with different kinds of people and situations. It's a big world and it takes all kinds. Being in a poor environment for meeting people, for years on end, can certainly contribute to loneliness for any person.
February 13, 200916 yr Interesting side conversation. But I like my topic so maybe we can just table your discussion for another board?
February 13, 200916 yr Not because I said anything about hate. Just a difference of opinion. I hate no one. I'm all for freedom for everyone. That's why I supported the war that gave freedom to 25 million Iraqis, mostly Muslims.
February 13, 200916 yr Back on topic, I think prostitution should be legalized. More than one person has mentioned that legalization, regulation, and testing could reduce the STD risk, especially when compared with the risk involved in picking up a random hooker. I agree, too, that legalization could reduce the violence and exploitation directed against hookers by pimps and clients. I think most illegal activities for which there's a ready market bring with them a high sleaze and violence factor. When you make any desired commodity illegal, only criminals can provide it. Some criminals don't have a strong sense of ethics and compassion. I wonder, too, if legalizing prostitution might reduce unwanted pregnancies and illegitimate births of endangered children. A professional prostitute working in a safe environment is more likely to know how to avoid getting knocked up, and is more likely to take precautions, than a messed-up crack whore shoved out of a car on a street corner and told to come back with money or get a beating.
February 17, 200916 yr Back on topic, I think prostitution should be legalized. More than one person has mentioned that legalization, regulation, and testing could reduce the STD risk, especially when compared with the risk involved in picking up a random hooker. I agree, too, that legalization could reduce the violence and exploitation directed against hookers by pimps and clients. I think most illegal activities for which there's a ready market bring with them a high sleaze and violence factor. When you make any desired commodity illegal, only criminals can provide it. Some criminals don't have a strong sense of ethics and compassion. I wonder, too, if legalizing prostitution might reduce unwanted pregnancies and illegitimate births of endangered children. A professional prostitute working in a safe environment is more likely to know how to avoid getting knocked up, and is more likely to take precautions, than a messed-up crack whore shoved out of a car on a street corner and told to come back with money or get a beating. Yeah, but Rob, I do believe messed up crack whores will still be the ones applying for jobs at the prostitute company. Do you really think tons of "normal" (for lack of another word) people will really apply for these positions?
February 17, 200916 yr Back on topic, I think prostitution should be legalized. More than one person has mentioned that legalization, regulation, and testing could reduce the STD risk, especially when compared with the risk involved in picking up a random hooker. I agree, too, that legalization could reduce the violence and exploitation directed against hookers by pimps and clients. I think most illegal activities for which there's a ready market bring with them a high sleaze and violence factor. When you make any desired commodity illegal, only criminals can provide it. Some criminals don't have a strong sense of ethics and compassion. I wonder, too, if legalizing prostitution might reduce unwanted pregnancies and illegitimate births of endangered children. A professional prostitute working in a safe environment is more likely to know how to avoid getting knocked up, and is more likely to take precautions, than a messed-up crack whore shoved out of a car on a street corner and told to come back with money or get a beating. Yeah, but Rob, I do believe messed up crack whores will still be the ones applying for jobs at the prostitute company. Do you really think tons of "normal" (for lack of another word) people will really apply for these positions? well, "normal" is a relative term, but I think the bunny ranch is a pretty good example of legal prostitution done the right way, if there is such a thing. They all get regular tests for STDs and pregnancy, nobody's getting beat up or pimped out, it's a business with customers paying for a service the girls are giving and it seems to have worked out well for many years now.
February 17, 200916 yr Yeah, but Rob, I do believe messed up crack whores will still be the ones applying for jobs at the prostitute company. Do you really think tons of "normal" (for lack of another word) people will really apply for these positions? I think that relaxation of social stigma and legalization have to go hand-in-hand, and that's where it becomes difficult - a chicken-vs-egg situation. If professional standards were in place in a legal setting, competition would work like it does in other legal enterprises to provide enjoyable services at market-driven prices for clientele with varying tastes. Working in a clean, safe environment for fair wages or commissions would attract a better class of worker than you're likely to find on a street corner in a scary neighborhood. A student, say, who works as a truly professional prostitute to get money for tuition shouldn't be regarded as less respectable than a skanky campus slut.
February 18, 200916 yr Why Is Prostitution Illegal? The oldest question about the oldest profession. By Emily Bazelon Posted Monday, March 10, 2008, at 7:12 PM ET When he was attorney general, Eliot Spitzer had no trouble going after a "sophisticated prostitution ring." As governor, he apparently had no trouble patronizing one. The hypocrisy speaks for itself. But what about the oldest question about the oldest profession: Why, exactly, is prostitution illegal? The case for making it against the law to buy sex begins with the premise that it's base and exploitative and demeaning to sex workers. Legalizing prostitution expands it, the argument goes, and also helps pimps, fails to protect women, and leads to more back-alley violence, not less. This fight over legalization has been waged in the last few years over international human-trafficking laws and proposals to make prostitution legal in countries like Bulgaria, a movement that the U.S. government helped defeat. In 2004, the federal government expressed its position: "The United States government takes a firm stance against proposals to legalize prostitution because prostitution directly contributes to the modern-day slave trade and is inherently demeaning." The government also claims that legalizing or tolerating prostitution creates "greater demand for human trafficking victims." And yet, prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada, a companion to other cherished vices. You don't have to be a moralist or a prude to buy the argument for banning prostitution. But if you're so inclined, it's an easy one to take apart. Martha Nussbaum, a law and philosophy professor at the University of Chicago, argues that lots of work involves the sale of bodily services and that lots of the work that poor women do involves bad working conditions. For her, it's all about context—there's a big difference between a street worker controlled by a pimp and a high-end call girl who picks her own clients, and the real question is how to increase poor women's access to decent and safe work in general. Legalizing prostitution "is likely to make things a little better for women who have too few options to begin with," Nussbaum writes. The extremely pricey outfit Spitzer apparently used looks like an example of the high-end trade Nussbaum would distinguish from low-rent street work. The further defense of such escort services is that prostitution is inevitable and that conditions will be better for everyone all around if it's regulated (more condoms, fewer beatings). This parallels the argument against Prohibition or in favor of drug legalization: Illegality puts the bad guys and their guns in control. Women who fear prosecution can't go to the police for help. Better to give women more recourse to head off abuse and even inspect brothels for health-code violations. Would legalizing prostitution increase trafficking? Not necessarily. "By this logic, the state of Nevada should be awash in foreign sex slaves, leading one to wonder what steps the Justice Department is taking to free them," writer David Feingold noted dryly in Foreign Policy in 2005. Countries in which prostitution is legal—Australia, Germany, the Netherlands—aren't cesspools. On the other hand, they haven't seen the demand for prostitution drop off, either, and sometimes it rises. That's a disappointment for advocates of legalization, and lately there's another favorite model. In 1999, Sweden made it legal to sell sex but illegal to buy it—only the johns and the traffickers can be prosecuted. This is the only approach to prostitution that's based on "sex equality," argues University of Michigan law professor Catharine MacKinnon. It treats prostitution as a social evil but views the women who do it as the victims of sexual exploitation who "should not be victimized again by the state by being made into criminals," as MacKinnon put it to me in an e-mail. It's the men who use the women, she continued, who are "sexual predators" and should be punished as such. According to this Web site for the Women's Justice Center, Sweden's way of doing things is a big success. "In the capital city of Stockholm the number of women in street prostitution has been reduced by two thirds, and the number of johns has been reduced by 80%." Trafficking is reportedly down to 200 to 400 girls and women a year, compared with 15,000 to 17,000 in nearby Finland. Max Waltman, a doctoral candidate in Stockholm who is studying the country's prostitution laws, says that those stats hold up. He also said the police are actually going after the johns as ordered: In 2006, more than 150 were convicted and fined. (That might not sound like many, but then Sweden has a population of only 9 million.) For feminists like MacKinnon (with whom Waltman works), this sure looks like the solution: Go after the men! Take down Eliot Spitzer and leave the call girls alone! On the other hand, the group SANS, for Sex Workers and Allies Network in Sweden, doesn't like the 1999 law. The network says it has brought more dangerous clients and more unsafe sex, rather than the other way around. Waltman says that there's a lot of debate in Sweden because some people inside and outside the industry still want straight-out legalization but that no systematic studies have shown that the law has made sex work worse or riskier. In the end, this seems like the most salient question: Forget Eliot Spitzer. Shouldn't prostitution laws come down to working conditions—and the laws that would lead to better ones for sex workers? According to a recent working paper (PDF) by economist Steven Levitt and sociologist Sudhir Venkatesh*, despite all the fighting and all the preaching, we apparently don't know that much about the specifics of the structure of the sex market—how much prostitutes make on average, how many tricks they turn a year, how frequently they and their pimps and johns actually get arrested. To start filling in the gap, Levitt and Venkatesh looked at data from the Chicago Police Department. They found that women working the streets were making $27 an hour but less than $20,000 a year (they don't log a lot of hours). The risks of the trade were serious: "an annual average of a dozen incidents of violence and 300 instances of unprotected sex." There was also a "surprisingly high prevalence of police officers demanding sex from prostitutes in return for avoiding arrest." That looks like another argument against the bans on prostitution—presumably women wouldn't be caught in this particular trap if they weren't worried about going to jail in the first place. Levitt and Venkatesh also offer up this statistic: Prostitutes get arrested about once per 450 tricks, and johns even less frequently. Two lessons here: 1) A law that isn't being enforced much may not be worth having; and 2) Eliot Spitzer looks really, really unlucky. Correction, March 11: The original sentence incorrectly identified Sudhir Venkatesh as an anthropologist. (Return to the corrected sentence.) Emily Bazelon is a Slate senior editor. http://www.slate.com/id/2186243/
February 18, 200916 yr Interesting article, but it doesn't really explore why prostitution is illegal beyond being allegedly exploitive and demeaning.
February 18, 200916 yr From a legal perspective, I think it's covered off pretty well in the second paragraph. Reading between the lines, though, I blame our mile-wide puritanical streak.
February 18, 200916 yr But it's enough to give context to the central question of the piece: why isn't prostitution legal. Why is prostitution considered taboo is another question for another article.
February 18, 200916 yr I actually was going to say the same thing. For those of you that think it should be legalized, ponder on why it is illegal right now. That might shed some light on why it should remain illegal. In my view, society has come to far in civilizing itself to revert back to paying for sex and pimping out men and women. To me, that is very primitive, immature and it is also a gateway to more crime and continued breakdown of the American family. As far a C-Dawgs comment that marriges are failing less than 50% of the time these days because less people are getting married. That is false. It is a percentage. If 2 couple in the world got married, and one was divorced, that's 50%.
February 18, 200916 yr I flat out disagree. I haven't seen any real good reasons, even from the article, why prostitution is illegal. It talks about prostitution being demeaning, yet there are certainly many other "legal" positions that can be considered the same. Ever see a guy cleaning up at one of those 25 cent nudie bars? It's a sad sight, yet somehow that's less demeaning? How demeaning is too demeaning? The article correlates prostitution to sex slavery and uses Finland as example of a parallel relationship, but I'm sorry, correlation (if there even is any) is not the same as causation. I haven't seen that many sex slaves in Nevada (I've been to Vegas a number of times, even a few seedy parts), and I haven't heard of any anecdoes of the same in Rhode Island, so what are those states doing differently than Finland. Just to rehash something from one of my other posts, we already have legalized prostitution, albeit in different forms - porn stars, escorts, masssage parlor girls, people who marry for money - and while there are nominal differences, I mean, are you going to tell me with a straight face that there any substantial difference between a porn star and a prostitute? The law says there is, but the reality is that there really isn't, so let's just legalize it and give these prostitutes all the rights and privileges of any employee in a legitimate business. Of course it's a crappy job, but it ain't the only one. and that point about punishing johns but not prostitutes is ridiculous. should we just punish drug consumers and not drug dealers then?
February 18, 200916 yr Prostitution is illegal in response to a social taboo against infidelity. As prostitution has not been eliminated by being made illegal, we can deduce that, for a segment of our society at least, prostitutution is a social inevitibility. However, by pushing prostitution to the margins of society where its victims are denied equal protection under the law, we have made a moral blunder as costly as infidelity itself. As a moral society we must weigh the moral cost of our actions on all the individuals involved. I believe we've been blinded by our personal moral code with regard to prostitution, for which society has paid a price greater than it would have for infidelity alone.
February 18, 200916 yr Did you know that adultery is illegal per the Universal Code of Military Justice? Someone could get bounced from the military for it. Ever see a guy cleaning up at one of those 25 cent nudie bars? It's a sad sight, yet somehow that's less demeaning? How demeaning is too demeaning? Mike Rowe is looking for ideas for "Dirty Jobs". Email him.
February 18, 200916 yr Prostitution is illegal in response to a social taboo against infidelity. As prostitution has not been eliminated by being made illegal, we can deduce that, for a segment of our society at least, prostitutution is a social inevitibility. However, by pushing prostitution to the margins of society where its victims are denied equal protection under the law, we have made a moral blunder as costly as infidelity itself. As a moral society we must weigh the moral cost of our actions on all the individuals involved. I believe we've been blinded by our personal moral code with regard to prostitution, for which society has paid a price greater than it would have for infidelity alone. i'm not sure everyone who uses a prostitute service is married or in a relationship. i would guess most aren't, or at least many are not. it's also about service, that being sex/companionship on demand. i think it's also illegal because of paternal, health and exploitation concerns too. seems like there are a lot of reasons.
February 18, 200916 yr Yet the question may be asked... Why aren't porn actors charged with prostitution? The Straight Dope February 13, 2009 Dear Cecil: Why is it that if you film an act of prostitution and call it porn, suddenly it's legal? The only difference I can see is that the male performer is also being paid, but that can’t be the case for all pornography. — Adler, Toronto, Canada Cecil replies: Just imagine the arraignment: The prosecutor says, "Your honor, the video recording in question shows defendants Mr. Long and Ms. Luvzit engaging in coitus in what appears to be a baseball dugout. Defendant Luvzit is wearing a cap, stirrup socks, and cleats, while defendant Long is dressed in the top half of an umpire's uniform. After several minutes of explicit sexual activity, during which time defendant Luvzit is heard to moan, yell, and exhort defendant Long to continue (repeatedly complimenting him on his "command of the strike zone"), defendant Long withdraws and ejaculates in full view of the camera." The judge looks over to the defendants, whose lawyer leans back with his hands behind his head and exclaims with satisfaction, "Now, that's acting!" Cecil jokes, Adler, but it's for your own good. You're not the first to propose this ingenious legal theory. Back in the 1980s some law-enforcement types in LA got the bright idea that they could use California's pandering statute to run pornographers out of town. Instead, they established a legal precedent that enshrined their state as the porn capital of the U.S. The case in question involves porn producer-director Hal Freeman, auteur of more than 100 full-length classics including the immortal Caught From Behind. In 1983 he made Caught From Behind II: The Sequel, and was charged and convicted under California's pandering law, which makes it a felony to "[procure] another person for the purpose of prostitution." But in 1988 his conviction was overturned by the California Supreme Court, which cited precedent establishing that "for [an act] to constitute 'prostitution,' the genitals, buttocks, or female breast, of either the prostitute or the customer must come in contact with some part of the body of the other for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification of the customer or of the prostitute" [emphasis added]. The court found that the "payment of acting fees was the only payment involved in the instant case. . . . There is no evidence that [Freeman] paid the acting fees for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification, his own or the actors'." Thus, no prostitution. Besides, the court went on, "even if [Freeman's] conduct could somehow be found to come within the definition of 'prostitution' literally, the application of the pandering statute to the hiring of actors to perform in the production of a . . . motion picture would impinge unconstitutionally upon First Amendment values." So Freeman's conviction was overturned, and making porn was effectively legalized in California. Producers who once filmed surreptitiously in motel rooms were free to shoot with good lights and no fear of arrest. Another triumph for the storied LAPD. Not all jurisdictions define prostitution as narrowly as California does. Next door in Arizona, for example, prostitution law was for years written to prohibit "engaging in or agreeing or offering to engage in sexual conduct with another person under a fee arrangement with that person or any other person" [emphasis added]. In 1990 an Arizona appeals court thus upheld the prostitution conviction of one Laure Taylor, who managed and performed in a peep-show theater visited six times by Phoenix undercover police. These were some diligent coppers. The performers asked them to unzip and masturbate, to show their good faith, as it were, but somehow they managed to keep their weapons holstered while the girls got it on. Then there's the case of Tom and Suzi Wahl, a married couple from Lake Saint Louis, Missouri. Not to say they enjoyed the spotlight or anything, but in 1992, the year after they were busted for selling pornographic videos (the raid was later ruled illegal), Suzi applied for the job of police chief, and in 1997 Tom ran for mayor. In 2001 they were arrested and convicted of prostitution by undercover cops attending one of their "educational" sex performances. According to the Missouri statute, "a person commits prostitution if he engages or offers or agrees to engage in sexual conduct with another person in return for something of value to be received by the person or by a third person" [emphasis once again added]. However prostitution is defined, courts are generally reluctant to restrain pornographers because of the First Amendment complications. A publicity-crazy lawman can always make arrests and even get convictions, but it's foolish to do so without ironclad statutory language. If a conviction is reversed like Hal Freeman's was, the result would be counterproductive at best. As it stands, there's a big sign over California saying "PORN PRODUCTION LEGAL HERE." Only an idiot, a porn lover, or perhaps an Illinois governor would risk erecting another sign saying "HERE TOO." — Cecil Adams See Cecil's latest assault against ignorance, Straight Dope Chicago, at chicago.straightdope.com. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2845/why-arent-porn-actors-charged-with-prostitution
February 18, 200916 yr ^Interesting. But still, the legal differences between pornography and prostitution are nominal at best and there are no moral distinctions.
February 22, 200916 yr now would either of you healthy young men pay for sex? Why do that when you can buy a woman a few cheap drinks at a bar and get the same thing? Prostitution is a job that helps maintain a functional society, so I fully support it as long as the women are tested. Yet the question may be asked... Why aren't porn actors charged with prostitution? The Straight Dope February 13, 2009 Politicians watch just as much porn as anyone else, that's why it's legal. Prostitution is illegal in response to a social taboo against infidelity. As prostitution has not been eliminated by being made illegal, we can deduce that, for a segment of our society at least, prostitutution is a social inevitibility. However, by pushing prostitution to the margins of society where its victims are denied equal protection under the law, we have made a moral blunder as costly as infidelity itself. As a moral society we must weigh the moral cost of our actions on all the individuals involved. I believe we've been blinded by our personal moral code with regard to prostitution, for which society has paid a price greater than it would have for infidelity alone. i'm not sure everyone who uses a prostitute service is married or in a relationship. i would guess most aren't, or at least many are not. One of my Sociology professors argued that it saves marriages.
February 22, 200916 yr now would either of you healthy young men pay for sex? Why do that when you can buy a woman a few cheap drinks at a bar and get the same thing? Prostitution is a job that helps maintain a functional society, so I fully support it as long as the women are tested. Lord. You kids. So what about men?
February 22, 200916 yr Politicians watch just as much porn as anyone else, that's why it's legal. LOL! But by that standard, prostitution should be legal as well, probably subsidized.
February 22, 200916 yr If, as some doctors and psychologists assert, getting laid on a regular basis is beneficial for physical and mental health, then for single seniors the fees ought to be covered under Medicare. :-) Maybe my doctor will write me a prescription. :?
February 22, 200916 yr Politicians watch just as much porn as anyone else, that's why it's legal. LOL! But by that standard, prostitution should be legal as well, probably subsidized. lol That's sooo true. Cocaine would probably be legal too!
February 22, 200916 yr Its amazing, a woman can make a choice to kill a beautiful living baby, but can't choose to sell herself! Pro-Choice!!!! Wow. Dan, it looks like this forum has really grown on you. In a few months you'll be ready to join the Socialist Party!
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