March 18Mar 18 https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/03/one-greater-cleveland-county-is-among-ohios-big-gainers-in-population.html One Greater Cleveland county is among Ohio’s big gainers in population "While the four fastest growing counties in Ohio since the last census are in the Columbus and Cincinnati areas, one county from Greater Cleveland is close behind, according to new population estimates released last week by the U.S. Census Bureau. Lorain County ranks fifth in the state, picking up an estimated 9,049 residents since April 2020, reaching 322,030, the new estimates say. This includes a gain of 2,867 in just the last year - from July 2023 to July 2024"
March 22Mar 22 On 3/18/2025 at 9:58 AM, Geowizical said: https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/03/one-greater-cleveland-county-is-among-ohios-big-gainers-in-population.html One Greater Cleveland county is among Ohio’s big gainers in population "While the four fastest growing counties in Ohio since the last census are in the Columbus and Cincinnati areas, one county from Greater Cleveland is close behind, according to new population estimates released last week by the U.S. Census Bureau. Lorain County ranks fifth in the state, picking up an estimated 9,049 residents since April 2020, reaching 322,030, the new estimates say. This includes a gain of 2,867 in just the last year - from July 2023 to July 2024" Hip hip hooray for sprawl
March 22Mar 22 Just because a county is seeing anemic growth doesn't mean sprawl. It's not like Lorain and Elyria are recently developed farmlands either.
March 23Mar 23 5 hours ago, TBideon said: Just because a county is seeing anemic growth doesn't mean sprawl. It's not like Lorain and Elyria are recently developed farmlands either. But let's be honest. The growth is likely from all those new Ryan Homes Subdivisions off I-90 and the end of I-480, AKA: sprawl.
March 23Mar 23 Lorain and Elyria have been surprisingly stable in pop for older small industrial cities, but I highly doubt that growth came from anywhere but Avon/Avon Lake/North Ridgeville.
March 23Mar 23 It's the "collar county leeches". Tons of development in all these cities right on the edge of Cuyahoga County, where people can still enjoy a bunch of the big city amenities without helping to pay for them. I used to work with a couple people from Brunswick who would thank me for funding the Metroparks they loved to use but were glad they didn't have to pay for. Edited March 23Mar 23 by jam40jeff
March 24Mar 24 Well, not to detract too much from the traditional handwringing, but here's something POSITIVE that I just realized. Per the current census estimates, Cuyahoga County is up 7,500 in population y/o/y. Obviously the census estimates are unreliable and one shouldn't extrapolate from one year of data, blah blah blah. But, if we do match this rate of growth each of the next few years, then in 2030, the population of Cuyahoga County will have risen not just since 2020, but since 2010. Pretty cool, eh?
March 24Mar 24 oh geez does this ever show the general baby bust poingnantly — 🙀 https://www.instagram.com/p/DG3W2RFvmK6/?igsh=NXF6Z3YxZnNuN3Vj
March 24Mar 24 22 hours ago, buckeye1 said: ^ Columbia Station/Columbia Twp is blowing up with development as well... amherst township is getting heavy duty avonized too —
March 27Mar 27 This depressing chart (https://www.communitysolutions.com/resources/campbell-clevelands-population-is-steady) points out what we already know: that , while the city's population has shrunk, the poverty numbers remain stubbornly near constant. Lost in the scale of the chart, however, since 2014's 39.2%, the rate of poverty has in fact declined to 30.7% in 2023 to about 108,000 people, a 21.7% drop - not in a straight line, but the trend is good. So whatever we are doing is working. If we wait until 2032, everything else being equal, that rate should fall to 24.1%; better, but still something around 96,000 people, assuming the city grows modestly to 400,000 by then. The average rate of poverty, looking at first world countries, seems to be about 12 to 14 percent. (See: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/poverty-rate-by-country). Seems to me our goal should be to get Cleveland to this natural rate. It might happen by 2040, if we simply wait. What is it worth to make it happen faster? Our politicians don't seem to know or care how to answer this question. The one party offers an uncoordinated patchwork of more, more, more; the other is content to wait for some self-correction. Seems to me there should be a reasonable answer acceptable to the majority; but I don't see anybody looking for it. Which is why I didn't vote. EDIT: I posted this originally in the "Decline of a Nation" thread hoping to comment on the near-total lack of seriousness of our politicians rather than Cleveland's population. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
March 27Mar 27 https://www.instagram.com/p/DHtTcDAOJ28/?igsh=bGxmZnByaDc1bW9k "Cleveland Ranks Among Top Metros for Boomerang Migration" -per Federal Reserve study Edit: I don't know why it isn't embedding the post lol Edited March 27Mar 27 by Geowizical
April 1Apr 1 I've been thinking. University Circle is booming and a lot of that has to do with student population. I recently read that we only have 1 out of every 200 students stay when they graduate. When I sat and thought about it I don't think University Circle or surrounding neighborhoods have created a district or area that is enticing to those students to stay once they graduate. Yes University Circle is a nice place to lay your head but I don't think it serves the younger demographic as well as it could. Not everyone wants to live or can afford to live in Ohio City, Tremont or other West side neighborhoods. Providing an East Side alternative to that INSIDE the city is paramount in keeping the college students here.
April 1Apr 1 32 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: I've been thinking. University Circle is booming and a lot of that has to do with student population. I recently read that we only have 1 out of every 200 students stay when they graduate. When I sat and thought about it I don't think University Circle or surrounding neighborhoods have created a district or area that is enticing to those students to stay once they graduate. Yes University Circle is a nice place to lay your head but I don't think it serves the younger demographic as well as it could. Not everyone wants to live or can afford to live in Ohio City, Tremont or other West side neighborhoods. Providing an East Side alternative to that INSIDE the city is paramount in keeping the college students here. CWRU claims that more students stay in the area after graduation than originally come from the area (I.e. it is net positive population impact for the region). Perhaps there is a difference between “staying in the area” vs “living in the city of cleveland). I agree that it would be helpful to have more of a “neighborhood to live in” feel around UC besides just Little Italy. I do think eastern Hough and southern Grenville are on their way towards that goal. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
April 2Apr 2 On 3/23/2025 at 2:36 PM, buckeye1 said: ^ Columbia Station/Columbia Twp is blowing up with development as well... All the people who sold their Strongsville farmland and moved there must have passed on or moved on.
April 3Apr 3 23 hours ago, Foraker said: You're right, there are a lot of empty to mostly-empty buildings over there, particularly with the Board of Elections move. The innerbelt creates a pretty big break in the street that isn't much fun to cross in the winter. Some students do. It might be more successful to create an independent residential neighborhood there, one that would attract some students of course, but that wouldn't be dependent on students to fill residences. (And of course a cap over the innerbelt like what exists on High St. in Columbus would be a great addition!) What about expanding into Prospect or Huron and partnering with developers in a similar way CWRU did with developers in Little Italy? Since they would be regular apartments, in an already walkable (width of streets) neighborhood that connects to downtown, they could create a "university district" with bars etc. and they may be more inclined to stay beyond graduation
April 8Apr 8 I'm just gonna post this here, and then any population/income/etc. discussion should be moved to the appropriate thread. Yes, city proper is still much lower than Columbus and Cincinnati MHI, but it you look at the growth rates, combined with the fact that the city proper is estimated to be gaining population again - things *for now* are looking up. Edited April 8Apr 8 by Geowizical
May 9May 9 Greater Cleveland’s population edged upwardBy Ken Prendergast / May 9, 2025New estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau show that, while population in Greater Cleveland edged up a bit for the second straight year, the metro area is still down overall for the decade so far. And the city of Cleveland saw its population shift at the same it enjoys strong increases in income tax revenues from young professionals and retired empty nesters replacing lower-income families.MORE:https://neo-trans.blog/2025/05/09/greater-clevelands-population-edged-upward/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 9May 9 Is there a reason Ashtabula Co is missing from the data/analysis? That's part of the MSA as well...
May 13May 13 Here's a little graph visualizing the 2024 data estimates referenced in @KJP article. Ideally we want to see 1.00% or above for the MSA, but look how much the MSA average has improved growth rate-wise just since 2020. Cuyahoga now being in the positive is going to be a huge help to increasing population - an obvious statement I know, but it's worth repeating and this graph really exemplifies it lolOf course, who knows how the next 4 years and beyond will shake out, but it's good momentum to try and build on
May 28May 28 Is Cleveland’s population finally growing? Census estimates say yes - 2 years in a rowPublished: May. 28, 2025, 9:22 a.m.By Rich Exner, cleveland.comCLEVELAND, Ohio - All that new residential construction showing up around Cleveland might finally be turning the city into a growing place for the first time in 75 years.Updated estimates released by the Census Bureau earlier this month show Cleveland grew each of the last two years, adding 654 residents in 2023 and then 1,104 last year.Is Cleveland’s population finally growing? Census estimates say yes - 2 years in a row - cleveland.com
May 28May 28 7 hours ago, MuRrAy HiLL said:Is Cleveland’s population finally growing? Census estimates say yes - 2 years in a rowPublished: May. 28, 2025, 9:22 a.m.By Rich Exner, cleveland.comCLEVELAND, Ohio - All that new residential construction showing up around Cleveland might finally be turning the city into a growing place for the first time in 75 years.Updated estimates released by the Census Bureau earlier this month show Cleveland grew each of the last two years, adding 654 residents in 2023 and then 1,104 last year.Is Cleveland’s population finally growing? Census estimates say yes - 2 years in a row - cleveland.comI'm surprised this isn't a hot topic of discussion tbh. An estimated two years of growth after 75 years of decline and this past year growing by 1,100+ people seems big.
May 28May 28 14 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said:I'm surprised this isn't a hot topic of discussion tbh. An estimated two years of growth after 75 years of decline and this past year growing by 1,100+ people seems big.We were actually talking about all of this data like a month ago upthread lol, we just always have the scoop here and local media can't keep up 😉
May 29May 29 Idk didn't the city grow in like 2017- 2018 and still dropped by the time of the census?
May 29May 29 10 hours ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:Idk didn't the city grow in like 2017- 2018 and still dropped by the time of the census?Only thing I know that increased before the last 2 years was the housing occupancy but the population still dropped due to what KJP wrote an article about "population trading".
May 29May 29 13 hours ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:Idk didn't the city grow in like 2017- 2018 and still dropped by the time of the census?Yes, growth occurred during those years, but the population loss of the early 2010's would have still caused a census count to be negative in 2020 for the previous ten years
May 29May 29 On 5/28/2025 at 10:47 AM, MuRrAy HiLL said:Is Cleveland’s population finally growing? Census estimates say yes - 2 years in a rowPublished: May. 28, 2025, 9:22 a.m.By Rich Exner, cleveland.comCLEVELAND, Ohio - All that new residential construction showing up around Cleveland might finally be turning the city into a growing place for the first time in 75 years.Updated estimates released by the Census Bureau earlier this month show Cleveland grew each of the last two years, adding 654 residents in 2023 and then 1,104 last year.Is Cleveland’s population finally growing? Census estimates say yes - 2 years in a row - cleveland.comSo looking at those numbers, the rate of growth from 2023 to 2024 was an approx 60% increase. Does anyone know if growth is happening at the county level also?
May 29May 29 13 minutes ago, B767PILOT said:So looking at those numbers, the rate of growth from 2023 to 2024 was an approx 60% increase. Does anyone know if growth is happening at the county level also?It is according to the Census estimates.
May 29May 29 23 minutes ago, B767PILOT said:So looking at those numbers, the rate of growth from 2023 to 2024 was an approx 60% increase. Does anyone know if growth is happening at the county level also?Cuyahoga County growth rate has increased significantly from the negatives to the positives since 2020. by Here are all the counties in the MSA, and the MSA average in black:. Things are on the up - we've improved so much since 2020 already: Edited May 29May 29 by Geowizical
May 29May 29 What's wild too is that all the new Scanton Pensinsula development has not been counted yet in any of the recent estimates "...600 rentals capable of housing more than 1,000 people - just a lift-bridge walk, bike or drive away from core entertainment district of the Flats, downtown and the upcoming Bedrock waterfront development."Cleveland’s best kept secret: Vibrant new neighborhood pops up in the Flats - cleveland.comLet alone all the other new residential construction underway throughout the city.
May 29May 29 Flats east bank may need to expand a little faster, they’re going to be hammered even more with these down the street within walking distance
June 1Jun 1 Population booms, services lag: The hidden cost of North Ridgeville’s growthByHannah Drown, cleveland.comNORTH RIDGEVILLE, Ohio – Once a quiet farming community, North Ridgeville is now northern Ohio’s fastest-growing city, transformed by booming development and surging population.But as the city grows, its safety forces haven’t kept pace. Fire and police staffing levels remain essentially flat, even as the population has expanded 68% since 2000, reaching an estimated 37,504 people in 2024, according to the U.S. Census.https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/06/population-booms-services-lag-the-hidden-cost-of-north-ridgevilles-growth.html
June 1Jun 1 Mutual aid agreements and community partnerships can be helpful in those situations; call them soft examples of regionalism, which everyone here likes.
June 1Jun 1 1 hour ago, TBideon said:Mutual aid agreements and community partnerships can be helpful in those situations; call them soft examples of regionalism, which everyone here likes.There's lots of that down in the Nordonia area sprawlburbs, The thing is there's always opponents, and pushes for broader examples, especially the a word among dissimilar municipalties, gives them ammo.
June 2Jun 2 Does anyone have the data of population change from ‘23 to ‘24 within each of the Cleveland neighborhoods ? I believe I’ve seen a map showing the net gains and losses by neighborhood before
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