Say what????  ;D 

 

I agree 1000%. 

No I definitely agree with almost all of your points, especially when you consistently mention investing in neighborhood retail building stock. I just don’t think it’s more than marginally relevant to population gain. I’m not even sure population gain is that important. At the same time, I’m always wary of assigning anthropomorphic qualities to metropolitan regions. When you say “accept responsibility for our own choices” it seems to ascribe a moral or at least ethical quality to the whole population of greater Cleveland. Does that mean Austin is more moral/ethical or that Detroit is full of stupid people?

 

It's not so much a moral/ethical dimension but one of competent policy and management.  Speaking of Austin, much of its modern reputation is attributed to its live music culture.  Cleveland collects a special tax on live music venues and allows a certain fun-averse activist to run around town shutting down parties with esoteric (but technically valid) zoning and building complaints.  If we want to see Austin-like growth here, we should be boosting our local music culture rather than attacking it like John Lithgow in Footloose.

 

Cleveland's zoning code is woefully antiquated.

No I definitely agree with almost all of your points, especially when you consistently mention investing in neighborhood retail building stock. I just don’t think it’s more than marginally relevant to population gain. I’m not even sure population gain is that important. At the same time, I’m always wary of assigning anthropomorphic qualities to metropolitan regions. When you say “accept responsibility for our own choices” it seems to ascribe a moral or at least ethical quality to the whole population of greater Cleveland. Does that mean Austin is more moral/ethical or that Detroit is full of stupid people?

 

It's not so much a moral/ethical dimension but one of competent policy and management.  Speaking of Austin, much of its modern reputation is attributed to its live music culture.  Cleveland collects a special tax on live music venues and allows a certain fun-averse activist to run around town shutting down parties with esoteric (but technically valid) zoning and building complaints.  If we want to see Austin-like growth here, we should be boosting our local music culture rather than attacking it like John Lithgow in Footloose.

 

Again, I agree with your proposal here, but Austin’s growth has 0.0000001% to do with its live music culture. Unless Michael Dell was inspired to found Dell computers after seeing a particularly ripping SXSW set in 1984 (3 years before it started). More to your point, Austin continues to grow explosively without the benefit of attractive neighborhood retail and atrocious zoning.

My point is we don't have everything Austin has.  Our assets are different, but we do have assets and we need to maximize their value.  Dell could have gone anywhere at any time but they like what Austin has to offer.  Cities outside the sunbelt, that don't have favorable weather, tend to compete on the basis of their culture and their built environments.  And some of them do it very well.

 

Again, this isn't about neighborhood quality alone solving every problem we have.  But unless we improve neighborhood quality, it will be very difficult for us to stem the population losses.  Our neighborhoods are in such awful condition that they are driving away the destitute.  Don't get caught up in Nirvana Fallacy, rejecting solutions that are necessary just because they're not sufficient.

Cleveland among top cities Americans are abandoning

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2018/06/cleveland_among_top_cities_ame.html

Good news for Cleveland and other parts of the Midwest...

 

Affordable Housing Drives Interest In Midwest Migration

 

The Cleveland-Elyria, Ohio, area topped the list of “Biggest Movers” on Realtor.com’s latest Cross Market Demand Report, posting the strongest improvement between its inbound views of listings on Realtor.com and outbound views from the first quarter of 2017 to the first quarter of this year. The Detroit metro area came in at No. 5 on the Biggest Movers list while the St. Louis market landed at No. 7.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/charleneoldham/2018/06/21/affordable-housing-drives-interest-in-midwest-migration/#1cf4f3f61a47

 

It's A Seller's Market In The Midwest

 

Cleveland:

 

    Closed Transactions: 2,701, up month over month by 25.16%

    Median Sales Price: $154,000 up  year over year by 4.12%

    Days on Market: 61, down year over year by 11.59%

    Months Supply of Inventory: 1.8, down year over year by 45.46%

 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/charleneoldham/2018/06/21/its-a-sellers-market-in-the-midwest/#5a15af6223bf

^ Is there a publication that hates-loves CLE more than Forbes lol.

I hope these transplants are bringing jobs with them.  If all they're doing is jacking up home prices and rents, that's a net loss for the community.

If all they're doing is jacking up home prices and rents, that's a net loss for the community.

 

Interesting take.  Most of the transplants I've recently met have relocated here for a job. 

I don't think people would relocate without a job. 

If all they're doing is jacking up home prices and rents, that's a net loss for the community.

 

Interesting take.  Most of the transplants I've recently met have relocated here for a job. 

 

Seller's markets are great if you already have stuff.  People who already have stuff will always cheer for a seller's market, but there are two sides to any transaction.  And there are a lot more people who don't have stuff.  This trend does not favor them, unless, as noted, it is accompanied by proportional job and wage growth.

Seller's markets are great if you already have stuff.  People who already have stuff will always cheer for a seller's market, but there are two sides to any transaction.  And there are a lot more people who don't have stuff.  This trend does not favor them, unless, as noted, it is accompanied by proportional job and wage growth.

 

Seller's markets are only in some parts of the region. There are many areas that still have great deals.

I was at a luncheon a few weeks ago held by Cleveland Neighborhood Progress. The vibrant city awards lunch. Basically an awards ceremony for the neighborhood CDCs for projects and initiatives in the city.  They mentioned that the population of the city "Increased for the first time in over sixty years." From what I remember it was a small increase, but an increase none the less. Not sure where he got his data from, but given who held the event I would think they may have access to raw data that could show this increase. Good news if true.

 

Seller's markets are only in some parts of the region. There are many areas that still have great deals.

 

One of those areas with a seller's market is of course Lakewood. Here is an example. This brick duplex at 15622-15624 Clifton was listed at $234,900. It sold for $25,100 more -- all cash. It's why more housing is going to get built in this city and its population should rise for the first time in 50 years.

But even within Lakewood, there are still some deals to be had.  And generally speaking a single family home South of Clifton can be found in the 150s - 160s. 

But even within Lakewood, there are still some deals to be had.  And generally speaking a single family home South of Clifton can be found in the 150s - 160s. 

 

The prices of multi-families should be a sign of the market of the future.  Younger people don't want to be strapped down with owning a home.  They are content to rent, and gladly trade more square footage for cheaper rent.  It allows them to go out for microbrews 6 nights a week.  If I owned a single family in the burbs, I'd be worried. 

Percentage Changes in Population by Census Tracts in Cuyahoga County, 1950-60. This was right after Cleveland's 1950 peak of population but before Cuyahoga County's 1970 peak. Much of Cleveland's east side was in moderate to steep pop. decline. Lakewood, E Cleveland, and Cleveland Hts were a mix of increases and decreases. Notice that Hough was seeing huge population INCREASES in this decade before the riot, due to tremendous overcrowding as the Central neighborhood was being demolished for I-77, Central Interchange and urban renewal projects. (Howard Whipple Green/Real Property Inventory)

 

They mentioned that the population of the city "Increased for the first time in over sixty years." From what I remember it was a small increase, but an increase none the less. Not sure where he got his data from, but given who held the event I would think they may have access to raw data that could show this increase. Good news if true.

 

I talked to a Commerce Dept. guru who said there is concern that the unemployment data gathered by the Census Bureau are becoming less reliable because of a rising rate of refusals from chosen individuals to answer the monthly queries.  The mechanism is an individual is selected by census tract and followed for eight months. It's becoming harder to get anyone in urban areas to respond the first time, let alone the next seven follow-ups. Their conclusion is that the computer generated data from company reports and social security reports is closer to reality, and as a result should be more heavily weighted in calculating population changes.

 

Those computer generated numbers say that total employment in the Cleveland MSA grew year-over-year by 13.7K or 1.3% in May - which is a pretty good number (the best in Ohio both as a percent and as an absolute gain). 

 

Nearby comparisons in May growth rate:  Indianapolis 1.7%; Buffalo 1.6%; Cleveland 1.3%; Columbus 1.1%; Cincinnati 1.1%; Pittsburgh 1.0%; Detroit 0.9%; Chicago 0.8%.

 

OK, it's just one month's data and is not even close to boom town numbers, but still ...  My guru friend speculated that that gain (1.3%) is inconsistent with a population decline since, if it accompanied a pop. decline,  it would require a large and unlikely growth in work force participation. That was the most positive comment I could get out of her.

 

So the population just might be growing; however no bragging ... no getting your hopes up ... for now the best Clevelanders can claim is that recent trends are positive.

 

Those computer generated numbers say that total employment in the Cleveland MSA grew year-over-year by 13.7K or 1.3% in May - which is a pretty good number (the best in Ohio both as a percent and as an absolute gain). 

 

Nearby comparisons in May growth rate:  Indianapolis 1.7%; Buffalo 1.6%; Cleveland 1.3%; Columbus 1.1%; Cincinnati 1.1%; Pittsburgh 1.0%; Detroit 0.9%; Chicago 0.8%.

 

 

Is there a link to those numbers, or the raw data from which those numbers were extrapolated?

 

Those computer generated numbers say that total employment in the Cleveland MSA grew year-over-year by 13.7K or 1.3% in May - which is a pretty good number (the best in Ohio both as a percent and as an absolute gain). 

 

Nearby comparisons in May growth rate:  Indianapolis 1.7%; Buffalo 1.6%; Cleveland 1.3%; Columbus 1.1%; Cincinnati 1.1%; Pittsburgh 1.0%; Detroit 0.9%; Chicago 0.8%.

 

 

Is there a link to those numbers, or the raw data from which those numbers were extrapolated?

 

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/metro.t03.htm

This doesn't deal with with population directly but it is interesting to see how the housing construction boom correlates to each city/villages population boom. The 2010s have been putrid when it comes to housing construction.

 

When was your town built? Cuyahoga County cities, villages, townships ranked for home age and square footage

 

https://www.cleveland.com/expo/news/erry-2018/07/c013564bfd6696/find_out_when_most_homes_in_yo.html#incart_m-rpt-1

 

 

Those computer generated numbers say that total employment in the Cleveland MSA grew year-over-year by 13.7K or 1.3% in May - which is a pretty good number (the best in Ohio both as a percent and as an absolute gain). 

 

Nearby comparisons in May growth rate:  Indianapolis 1.7%; Buffalo 1.6%; Cleveland 1.3%; Columbus 1.1%; Cincinnati 1.1%; Pittsburgh 1.0%; Detroit 0.9%; Chicago 0.8%.

 

 

Is there a link to those numbers, or the raw data from which those numbers were extrapolated?

 

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/metro.t03.htm

 

Edit: Oops ... I see CleFan answered for me.

 

 

 

Interesting.

 

City of CLE shows only 440 in the 2010s. Is that accurate?  the data is supposed to include condos:

 

"Each community is ranked for both median year built (for all single-family homes, doubles and condos)"

https://www.cleveland.com/expo/news/erry-2018/07/c013564bfd6696/find_out_when_most_homes_in_yo.html#incart_m-rpt-1

 

 

Most of the new construction is apartments over the last several years.  Also, does it capture adaptive reuse?  That's a big chunk of Cleveland's new housing units over the last 30 years, too.

hmmmm.. probably not. Year of construction is year of construction probably in the county files which is by location or parcel number--not by use....so a warehouse built in 1921 is 1921 construction. I hope the PD did a decent (or any!) analysis and not just a data dump which may be the case. if that 1921 warehouse became housing in 1995---he should have manually added that number to 1995 as that is when it was built---"as housing"

hmmmm.. probably not. Year of construction is year of construction probably in the county files which is by location or parcel number--not by use....so a warehouse built in 1921 is 1921 construction. I hope the PD did a decent (or any!) analysis and not just a data dump which may be the case. if that 1921 warehouse became housing in 1995---he should have manually added that number to 1995 as that is when it was built---"as housing"

 

considering that they only show 440 housing units added in Cleveland in the 2010's they are likely not picking up any conversions as new housing.  Good catch on your part.

Year structure built refers to occupied or vacant structures. It refers to the year that structure was initially built not the year it was remodeled.

Remember that this is also not from the decennial census but from ACS, so it is an estimate.

^Are you sure it's from the ACS? The cover note just says "current property records" which I would guess refers to tax assessor records.

Cleveland neighborhoods 'Redlined' in the 1930s are the same ones dealing with lead, sexual assault, poverty and poor internet issues today  https://t.co/Em5VpJ2ub0

You're right straphanger. I can't find any matching numbers from the Census, so it must be the auditor.

Saw this cool image posted today

Interesting that they annexed a large chunk of Linndale Village, but not the tiny little piece that remains today. Also, I didn't realize Glendale was its own city before.

@Josh_CLE

Almost 8 months after the author spoke at @TheCityClub, The Color of Law is still awakening Clevelanders like me to the untaught history of segregated neighborhoods EVERYWHERE. Thank you @thefundneo for a book club discussion I needed. https://t.co/9F6eiWdYz4

 

@marksouther

Also check out the @HOLCRedlining website, where you can see many “redlining maps,” including #CLE, and read telling commentaries (with their unvarnished racism) used to justify grading of nbrhds. Their bibliog. points to pathbreaking work of historians going back nearly 40 yrs.

This site states that Downtown Cleveland had a population of 9,098 back in 2015. So the downtown population exploded by 6,000 in 3 years? I guess that's not too unbelievable. What's interesting is how many more people live in downtown Cleveland than Cincy or Columbus.

 

https://statisticalatlas.com/neighborhood/Ohio/Cleveland/Downtown/Population

Downtown should easily pass 20,000 by 2020, based on the number of units planned/under construction right now. If downtown was its own city, it would be the 25th largest out of 58 cities in the county right now. In two years, it could be 15th largest or higher depending on the actual rate of population loss of county municipalities.

 

http://www.countyplanning.us/resources/census-data/decennial-census/census-2010-total-population/

This site states that Downtown Cleveland had a population of 9,098 back in 2015. So the downtown population exploded by 6,000 in 3 years? I guess that's not too unbelievable. What's interesting is how many more people live in downtown Cleveland than Cincy or Columbus.

 

https://statisticalatlas.com/neighborhood/Ohio/Cleveland/Downtown/Population

 

There aren't reliable population counts at the tract level, so I would take that all with a big grain of salt.

 

[EDIT: I meant to say "between the decennial censuses" in there]

This site states that Downtown Cleveland had a population of 9,098 back in 2015. So the downtown population exploded by 6,000 in 3 years? I guess that's not too unbelievable. What's interesting is how many more people live in downtown Cleveland than Cincy or Columbus.

 

https://statisticalatlas.com/neighborhood/Ohio/Cleveland/Downtown/Population

 

There aren't reliable population counts at the tract level, so I would take that all with a big grain of salt.

 

Also, Cincinnati and Columbus both have neighborhoods that organically mesh and seemingly transform into their downtown in OTR and Short North.

 

The geography of Cleveland, by way of the river to the South and West, and crime to the east, restricts (for the moment at least) that sort of organic blending of a neighborhood into Downtown

"Crime to the east" is essentially what was said about OTR and Short North.  The difference is that Cleveland chose not to invest in making its downtown-adjacent neighborhoods desirable.  The Agora and Masonic theaters could have been keystones to a grand revival.  Both are receiving major renovations and both still host major shows... but there's nowhere nearby to hang out.

"Crime to the east" is essentially what was said about OTR and Short North.  The difference is that Cleveland chose not to invest in making its downtown-adjacent neighborhoods desirable.  The Agora and Masonic theaters could have been keystones to a grand revival.  Both are receiving major renovations and both still host major shows... but there's nowhere nearby to hang out.

 

Agreed, that's why I added the "at least for now" caveat.

 

Also, a viable neighborhood in Midtown would be a wonderful and more economical reason for a light rail loop.

And Cleveland's only residential neighborhood directly adjacent to downtown, Central, was completely wiped off the face of the Earth. I just was thinking about that yesterday looking at the Cincys historic west end aerials posted yesterday. Cleveland has a lot of work to do when it comes to downtown/urban non high-rise residential. 

Central's population in 1940 was 100,000. It fell to 10,000 by 2000 and rose to 12,000 in 2010.

 

There are only eight census tracts comprising three neighborhoods (Buckeye-Shaker, Clark-Metro & West Boulevard) in Cleveland with a population density of 10,000+ (ie: equal to Lakewood). Need more of that in more census tracts.

The number of houses sold in the city of Cleveland are way up in 2018...

 

Here are the newly released July numbers:

 

July 17 - 723

July 18 - 888

^that's cool. how do other months (april, may, etc) look. one time fluke or a new trend?

June 17 - 828

June 18 - 883

 

May 17 - 742

May 18 - 831

 

Apr 17 - 691

Apr 18 - 742

 

 

^That's great!  Could I ask the source?

^That's great!  Could I ask the source?

 

It can be found on the Cuyahoga County property sales and transfers database.

^Cool, thanks.

Sounds like they need some help:

 

Puerto Ricans Resettled In Cleveland Still Struggling One Year After Maria

AUTHOR

Lecia Bushak

PUBLISHED September 20, 2018

 

In Cleveland’s Ohio City neighborhood at the Spanish American Committee, the last year has seen a flow of people resettling from Puerto Rico — and it’s not stopping anytime soon, says Executive Director Ramonita Vargas.

 

"This organization has seen over 780 families, and over 1800 individuals in the last year and still coming every day," Vargas said.

 

Vargas says many of those 1800 people have applied for housing through Cuyahoga Metropolitan Housing Authority, but most are still displaced, living out of friends’ basements or shelters, one year later.

 

"10 percent of the people that have come here and put in the application for CMHA have found apartments," Vargas said. "10 percent. And 15 percent have found jobs. But the rest are still just looking, waiting."

 

http://www.ideastream.org/news/puerto-ricans-resettled-in-cleveland-still-struggling-one-year-after-maria

 

Homelessness is on the rise in Cleveland, including for people who have lived here all their lives. At that rate housing is being demolished, at about 1,000 to 2,000 homes per year countywide, we're losing housing faster than it's being replaced. So it's no surprise that newcomers arriving here with few resources are having difficulties getting settled.

Homelessness is on the rise in Cleveland, including for people who have lived here all their lives. At that rate housing is being demolished, at about 1,000 to 2,000 homes per year countywide, we're losing housing faster than it's being replaced. So it's no surprise that newcomers arriving here with few resources are having difficulties getting settled.

 

Yes you're completely right. The abandoned, condemned, and dangerous homes being demolished are tooottallyyyyyy inhibiting people's ability to settle in Cleveland. Nailed it.