I don't know, people love crocodile tears.

Budget cutting raises tensions between Ohioans Boehner, Jordan

Sunday, March 20, 2011 

By Jack Torry

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

 

WASHINGTON - In geographic terms, House Speaker John Boehner and Rep. Jim Jordan could not be any closer: Their western Ohio congressional districts border each other.

 

They are Republicans and have solidly conservative voting records.  They want to cut federal spending, and they oppose new regulations and increasing taxes.  Yet these two Ohio Republicans have been colliding because Jordan, who heads a bloc of like-minded House conservatives, backs a more aggressive and confrontational approach to cutting federal spending.

 

And although they publicly insist that they are allies, a number of Republicans privately acknowledge that a deep split between Boehner and Jordan has emerged, with one Republican asserting that "there's a lot of tension" between them.

 

READ MORE: http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/03/20/copy/budget-cutting-raises-tensions-between-ohioans-boehner-jordan.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

Boehner gets the buzzer from Politifact....

 

John Boehner says Bush tax cuts created 8 million jobs over 10 years: PolitiFact Ohio

Published: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 9:25 AM    Updated: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 5:26 PM

By Robert Higgs, PolitiFact Ohio and The Plain Dealer The Plain Dealer

 

During an interview on NBC’s Today show, House Speaker John Boehner, offered some job-creation statistics to cast a favorable light on the tax cuts passed under President George W. Bush in 2001 and 2003.

 

Host Matt Lauer said to Boehner, "You talk about creating jobs. When the Bush era tax cuts were passed in 2001, unemployment in this country was 4.5 percent. Today it's at 9 percent, just down from 10 percent. So why are the Bush era tax cuts creating jobs?"

Read more at:

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2011/05/john_boehner_says_bush_tax_cut.html

did you ever see that picture of john boehner and anthony weiner together? haha

did you ever see that picture of john boehner and anthony weiner together? haha

 

No, ha ha..but there's no way I'm typing "Boehner" and "weiner" into google images while I'm at work.

 

Your friend in D.C.,

 

Dick Army

did you ever see that picture of john boehner and anthony weiner together? haha

May be some contradiction out of Mr. Speaker.  In 1999, he very firmly supported the President's use of similar force in the Balkans.  Now he says it is illegal..... or should I say it somehow became illegal over the past two weeks.

 

Boehner Claims Obama Is Violating War Powers Act, Two Weeks After Saying Obama Complied With Law

 

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/06/14/245566/boehner-war-powers-hypocrisy/

 

Personally, I think this is an interesting issue.  But what I find troubling is that Kucinich and his Democratic allies would have sued regardless of who was in the WH.  But surely there would have been more Democrats if it wasn't for Obama.  But the Republicans who joined in the lawsuit would NOT have done so if Obama was not in charge.  Sorry, you can't convince me otherwise.  No way, no how. 

 

I don't know enough about the War Powers Act to give an informed opinion, but I do agree with the Libya approach if we must get involved in foreign conflicts.  We don't have troops on the ground.  We have no intention to occupy.  We are making NATO do its job and we are simply paying our fair share.  It's actually pretty refreshing to see this approach.

Tea party activist challenges Boehner in GOP primary

By Cincinnati Enquirer via AP

Monday, September 19, 2011 - 7:14 AM

 

CINCINNATI — A 26-year-old tea party activist is challenging U.S. House Speaker John Boehner in the 2012 Republican primary.  David Lewis announced his candidacy on Friday and said he plans to run on a single issue — Boehner’s support of a federal budget that provides funding to Planned Parenthood, which Lewis calls “the largest killer of unborn babies in America.”

 

Lewis, the father of a 2-year-old girl, said he intends to run graphic anti-abortion ads against Boehner, who has said that banning taxpayer funding for abortions was one of the GOP’s highest legislative priorities.

 

Lewis has been arrested for protesting outside of Boehner’s home district office, according to his website.  He lives in U.S. Rep. Jean Schmidt’s 2nd District but said he’ll move northwest into Boehner’s 8th District if he wins the primary.  He holds a bachelor’s degree in information technology from the University of Cincinnati and quit his job with a bank in December to be an activist.

 

READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/09/19/tea-party-activist-challenges-boehner-in-gop-primary.html

I'm sure JB is sweating this one. Hopefully his tanner doesn't streak

Only one year ago John Boehner must have been on top of the world.  He had just been made Speaker of the House.  A job he had put so much senority into getting.  The GOP was on a roll - and he was their leader.

 

Now, Boehner's getting tormented by the Tea Party wing of his Republican Party and stabbed in the back by his supposed #2 guy Eric Cantor whenever he tries to cut a deal with the President and the Senate.  And to add insult to injury, Boehner's even getting misintroduced at last weekend's CPAC convention.

 

 

It's almost enough to make you feel sorry for ole John.  Almost.

Seriously?? This Azz as a thread?

Seriously?? This Azz as a thread?

 

Um, he is one of the most prominent Ohioans of our time.

Boehner Re-elected Speaker Despite Dissenting Votes

By Jonathan Weisman, The New York Times

Published: January 3, 2013

 

WASHINGTON — Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio was re-elected speaker of the House on Thursday despite some unrest among Republicans about his handling of the fiscal negotiations with the White House and his decision to call off a vote on hurricane relief.  As the 113th Congress convened just after noon, Mr. Boehner weathered some protest votes from the rank and file to defeat Representative Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic leader, by a vote of 220 to 192.  Other candidates drew a total of 14 votes.

 

... In a long, pomp-filled roll call vote, nine Republicans voted against Mr. Boehner, and a handful of members refused to vote, signaling that divisions among House Republicans would continue from the 112th Congress into the 113th.  Some Republican conservatives registered their disapproval with the speaker by voting for others like Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia, the No. 2 House Republican, as well as Allen West, the fiery conservative from Florida who lost his seat in the November election.

 

READ MORE: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/04/us/politics/new-congress-begins-with-wishes-of-comity-but-battles-ahead.html

In depth interview with Boehner from WSJ.com.  Recaps much of the inner debate regarding the fiscal cliff, his position on other policy issues

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323482504578225620234902106.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read

^More like recaps much of the 'inner debate' as Boehner would like to paint it.  You can always count on the WSJ for a 'in depth' one sided story.

Sure WSJ has a conservative slant, but what specifically do you find inaccurate about the article?  It still contains plenty of criticisms of Boehner and other House Republicans...

I didn't use the word 'innacurate'..... but I would bet the farm that it is misleading at best.  You can't know if one side of the story is innacurate if you don't have the other side...... and, more importantly when looking at short quotes supposedly made during the course of closed door negotiations, if you don't have the one thing that the conservative media likes to leave out - CONTEXT.  The undisputed fact is that nobody came out of this mess looking worse than Boehner.  He has a lot of exposure and is in damage control mode.  He needs someone to point the finger at.  In his heart of hearts, I honestly believe he wants to b!tchsmack many members of his own caucus who make his job so difficult.  But he can't do that publicly, so he aims for the easier targets and the WSJ provides him with the platform t take his shots.

^ Check out the link to the interview that I posted in LaTourette thread. Very interesting perspective on Boehner and the state of the GOP.

^Agree.  The LaTourette interview provides a fascinating insight into the current dysfunction in the House and how patient Boehner has been with the extremists, for better or worse.

The undisputed fact is that nobody came out of this mess looking worse than Boehner.  He has a lot of exposure and is in damage control mode.  He needs someone to point the finger at.  In his heart of hearts, I honestly believe he wants to b!tchsmack many members of his own caucus who make his job so difficult.  But he can't do that publicly, so he aims for the easier targets and the WSJ provides him with the platform t take his shots.

 

How exactly could Boehner have played his cards differently?  The Republican led House was backed into a corner.  If they had held out for spending/entitlement cuts to go with the tax raises they agreed to and they would've let the fiscal cliff take full effect and been blamed entirely.  I think in hindsight, they did all they could and ended up with the least harmful legislation

 

That's just it.  I don't think his caucus lets Boehner 'play his cards'.... if that is the term you want to use.  They gave him no cards to play.  Until their backs were against the wall, they wouldn't agree to any compromise whatsoever.  Nor would they spell out their own plan to reduce spending in any meaningful way.  What is the plan anyway?  Where SPECIFICALLY are these cuts supposed to come from?  They won't cut defense (in fact, they want to increase it).  They won't cut medicare or social security in any way that would result in significant savings.  Maybe you can SPECIFICALLY outline where these SIGNIFICANT cuts are supposed to come from?  If you say welfare, I am sending you back to 4th grade arithmetic

Why do I even bother asking anymore?

DIRTY MONEY JANUARY 14, 2014

 

John Boehner Took Money from the Company Behind the West Virginia Spill

BY NORA CAPLAN-BRICKER @ncaplanbricker

 

In the days since a coal-processing chemical leak contaminated West Virginia’s Elk River, leaving over 300,000 people without water, politicians have called on the state legislature and the U.S. Congress to come up with new safety regulations. But Speaker of the House John Boehner doesn’t think that’s necessary. “The issue is this: We have enough regulations on the books,” said Boehner at a press conference on Tuesday. “What the administration ought to be doing is actually doing their jobs.”

 

Boehner’s stance implied that the federal government, not Freedom Industries, the company with the faulty container, was to blame. He declined to mention that he received a total of $5,000 in donations from Freedom Industries in July, 2013, contributed by the company's VP of sales and marketing Doug Simmons. Both Boehner’s office and Freedom Industries refused to comment for this story. The company, which has stayed quiet save for one press conference since the spill, has also been linked to the conservative powerhouse Koch Industries.

 

READ MORE AT:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116212/west-virginia-chemical-spill-john-boehner-and-freedom-industries

DIRTY MONEY JANUARY 14, 2014

 

John Boehner Took Money from the Company Behind the West Virginia Spill

BY NORA CAPLAN-BRICKER @ncaplanbricker

 

In the days since a coal-processing chemical leak contaminated West Virginia’s Elk River, leaving over 300,000 people without water, politicians have called on the state legislature and the U.S. Congress to come up with new safety regulations. But Speaker of the House John Boehner doesn’t think that’s necessary. “The issue is this: We have enough regulations on the books,” said Boehner at a press conference on Tuesday. “What the administration ought to be doing is actually doing their jobs.”

 

Boehner’s stance implied that the federal government, not Freedom Industries, the company with the faulty container, was to blame. He declined to mention that he received a total of $5,000 in donations from Freedom Industries in July, 2013, contributed by the company's VP of sales and marketing Doug Simmons. Both Boehner’s office and Freedom Industries refused to comment for this story. The company, which has stayed quiet save for one press conference since the spill, has also been linked to the conservative powerhouse Koch Industries.

 

READ MORE AT:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116212/west-virginia-chemical-spill-john-boehner-and-freedom-industries

 

By the way, an ironic twist relating to the above event......

 

THU JAN 16, 2014 AT 03:03 PM PST

A Twist On The West Virginia Chem Spill That Outdoes The Onion

 

This one's a visual thing, at:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/16/1270214/-A-Twist-On-The-West-Virginia-Chem-Spill-That-Outdoes-The-Onion?detail=facebook

Those people of WV don't need no stinking regulations!  When something like this happens, private industry and the free market band together to help them!  :roll: :roll: :roll:

anybody ever hear of Boehner referred to as "The Weeping Cheetoh" ?

big news.  http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/26/us/boehner-will-resign-from-congress.html?_r=0

 

Curious what is driving this decision, if its simply fatigue, or some brewing scandal or if he's being forced out by his internal party members... 

Merged this discussion with the already existing Boehner thread, gottaplan[/member]

This is shocking. I have never been a huge fan of Boehner but I kind of feel bad for him now. I think it's because he's starting to rely too much on Democrats to get anything done. He has no control over his members. And that's not his fault, it's the members'.

 

He's going to join with Dems next week to fund the government. The Dems will get what they want because they have all the leverage right now. (Boehner and McConnell desperately want to avoid shutdown in order to protect the GOP brand for the coming Presidential election.) Conservatives will be ticked off because of the ideological impurity of whatever deal is made, and they'll try to oust him. He's resigning to avoid the internal fight and getting forced out by the tea partiers. Really it's a selfless decision, he's saving conservatives from themselves and they are too dense to realize it. The far right crowd of the GOP are truly their own worst enemies.

I bet it's fatigue. The article said it best, he's been under attack by the Dem's and his own party since he took the position. That has to be an exhausting amount of stress to manage. I don't care who you are or how strongly you believe in your cause. When no matter what you do, someone is telling you that you're a sellout, at some point you have to just say "F@ck all y'all b!tches!"

Man, if he wasn't conservative enough for his own party, we are all screwed.

I also read recently that Boehner has been on a relentless fundraising mission traveling all over the country and has raised over $300 million for the Republican party. 

I bet it's fatigue. The article said it best, he's been under attack by the Dem's and his own party since he took the position. That has to be an exhausting amount of stress to manage. I don't care who you are or how strongly you believe in your cause. When no matter what you do, someone is telling you that you're a sellout, at some point you have to just say "F@ck all y'all b!tches!"

 

Truth be told!

I'm going to be extremely interested to see who the House GOP nominates instead of him.  If it's someone like Pence or Amash, then we can assume in hindsight that Boehner resigned because of rising purer conservative sentiment that might have crested in a wave that would oust him anyway, notwithstanding his prolific fundraising abilities.  If it's someone more like Boehner himself, then we can assume in hindsight that it was simply fatigue as chief feline rancher in a ranch specifically for rabid, non-declawed tabbies.

I bet it's fatigue. The article said it best, he's been under attack by the Dem's and his own party since he took the position. That has to be an exhausting amount of stress to manage. I don't care who you are or how strongly you believe in your cause. When no matter what you do, someone is telling you that you're a sellout, at some point you have to just say "F@ck all y'all b!tches!"

 

Truth be told!  And who in their right mind would want to become leader of the House when yet again members of his party (for the former Canadian's own political gain) are pushing for another shutdown- this time going into a Presidential election year? 

 

Speaking of which, where oh where are the Birthers when it comes to this Canadian running for President?  I know I know.... different thread. ;-)

Robert L. Smith ‏@rlsmithpd  34m34 minutes ago

No room for a Boehner in a Trump, Carson-style GOP. "What happened to conservatism based on promise?" http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/25/opinion/david-brooks-the-american-idea-and-todays-gop.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region …

I've heard this could be a deal to avert next week's possible government shutdown over Planned Parenthood funding; that the Tea Party agreed to back off on the shutdown in exchange for their ultimate prize: getting Boehner's too-conciliatory-to-Dems (in their view, at least) arse out of the speakership and out of Congress.  We'll have  to wait and see on this... I also get the feeling that Boehner simply has had enough of dealing with these right-wing crazies, especially now that the Party is firmly ensnared in Trumpworld. 

I wonder if Trump will benefit from the chaos.  Or alternatively if the Congress takes a hard right, if Kasich will benefit from being a more moderate/sensible candidate.

Robert L. Smith ‏@rlsmithpd  34m34 minutes ago

No room for a Boehner in a Trump, Carson-style GOP. "What happened to conservatism based on promise?" http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/25/opinion/david-brooks-the-american-idea-and-todays-gop.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region …

 

Very good column.  Brooks' viewpoints particularly resonate with me as he is a moderate conservative with, really, no dog in the game... What he flirts with, but doesn't come out directly says, is that conservatives' new pessimistic, backward-looking American Exceptionalism has, at its roots, an ugly racism and bigotry not only manifested in Trump and Carson, but by Ann Coulter in her ongoing stoking of anti-Semitism, as well.

I've heard this could be a deal to avert next week's possible government shutdown over Planned Parenthood funding; that the Tea Party agreed to back off on the shutdown in exchange for their ultimate prize: getting Boehner's too-conciliatory-to-Dems (in their view, at least) arse out of the speakership and out of Congress.  We'll have  to wait and see on this... I also get the feeling that Boehner simply has had enough of dealing with these right-wing crazies, especially now that the Party is firmly ensnared in Trumpworld. 

 

Add in Boehner playing the role of jumping on the shutdown grenade while actually providing cover for various members of the house to play outraged for their constituents and it's what makes most sense to me.

The tea partiers truly live in a different reality. They somehow believe that the "American people" are with them, and they just need to run all these phonies out of town and they'll be able to enact everything they want.

 

Their views are shared by 20-30% of the electorate, tops. They aren't going to get what they want. They need to learn to cut deals. That's all politics is. There are no ideologies that represent a majority of Americans. As a politician, your job is to cut deals on behalf of your constituency.

 

Boehner and the RINOs are way better at enacting conservative policy, at the end of the day, than any of these idiots.

^Good points... and speaking of conservative policies (and philosophies) these days, it's interesting and disturbing to see where they may be coming from:

 

Thursday, Sep 24, 2015 11:22 AM EDT

How Ann Coulter became the harbinger of the GOP’s extremist apocalypse

Heather Digby Parton

 

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/24/how_ann_coulter_became_the_harbinger_of_the_gops_extremist_apocalypse/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Possibly. But I think at this point, some tea partiers would be fine just forcing Obama to use his veto pen; many of them understand that they won't actually enact any policies until he is out of office.  And they may be looking ahead to 2016 and strongly figuring (against the odds, particularly considering the Republican chances in the Senate) that they will have united control of the government as of January 2017, and they don't trust Boehner to manage it to take advantage of any fleeting opportunity to enact what they see as a genuine conservative agenda.

 

Also of a piece with the similar raise-the-stakes game in the Capitol is the conservative movement to completely eliminate the filibuster, which is opposed by the "RINO" leadership on long-term strategic calculation grounds (Republicans have spent a lot more years as the minority than the majority, and many of the senior RINOs were around during the darker days when the filibuster was just about the only tool they had, whereas the tea partiers are younger in their careers and haven't lived through that experience yet).

 

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/424549/senate-republicans-nuclear-option-filibuster-debate

Boehner allies are infuriated with the GOP’s right wing over the his resignation http://t.co/8iq8BuCPBk http://t.co/YZ6D4Svt6Z

Check out Boehner on CBS today:

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/full-interview-john-boehner-september-27/

 

Best part is at 3:10, it goes along with what I was saying a few posts upthread. You can hear the frustration in his voice.

 

We've accomplished a lot in the four and a half years that I've been speaker. Whether it was the largest deficit reduction deal in the history of the country, saving 2.1 trillion dollars, protecting 99% of the American people from an increase in their taxes, or the first major entitlement reforms in 20 years. All done over the last four and a half years with a Democrat president and all voted against by my most conservative members because it wasn't good enough. Really? This is the part that I truly don't understand.

 

Our founders gave us this system of government - majority in the house, 60 votes in the senate. If the house and senate agree the president gets to decide. Our founders didn't want some parliamentary system where if you won a majority you got to do whatever you wanted. They wanted this long, slow process. And so change comes slowly. Obviously too slowly for some.

 

He goes on to essentially call Ted Cruz (never by name but it's obvious) a "false prophet" who misleads Republicans into believing unrealistic ideas about what can be accomplished.

 

Anyways, thank you John Boehner especially for that bit about our system of government. That long slow process is why our democracy has been one of the most stable in the world for all its problems. That is something I try to explain to frustrated friends and family all the time, and it applies just as much to impatient Tea Partiers as it does to all the impatient liberals who were jumping on the anti-Obama bandwagon a few years ago (though he now seems to have won most of them back).

There's one point on which he's being somewhat disingenuous: The 60-vote threshold in the Senate.  The way the filibuster is used today would be more than a little alien to the Revolutionary Era Senators.  I have to assume Boehner knows enough institutional history to know this, so I wonder if he was throwing that out there as a small show of support for Mitch McConnell, who is definitely next on the conservative hardliner hit list.

Boehner's much-ballyhooed "tavern" is for sale for $145k:

 

https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1454827/7201-Vine-St-Carthage-OH-45216

Is his family still the current owner? Or has it changed hands since then?

Is his family still the current owner? Or has it changed hands since then?

 

No.  I'm not sure when the Boehner family sold the bar but it was probably in the 80s or 90s.  I think everyone got pretty sick of hearing about how he "swept the floors at his dad's tavern".  Big whoop. 

If I ever become a politician (which I probably won't) I will shove the fact that I scrubbed carpet in a warehouse on Winchell Ave. for a living after finishing my second Master's degree up everybody's ass.