March 11, 200916 yr Well I'm already working 40+ hours at my day job, plus going to school part time so I don't have time for a PT job, but I've figured out that as a poor partially disabled vet with a couple of munchkins running around the house; I qualify for a heck of a lot of grants and scholarships. I've also discovered that many grants and scholarships don't care how many other scholarships you've already recieved, which means I'm making a small profit off of going to school. By the time I get my BBA, I should have all my debts, other than the mortgage, paid off. Thrift stores are always helpful at keeping costs down, losing a few pounds so I can keep wearing clothes I already had was cheaper though. Also I really went on a shopping spree when the Salvation Army store at Shoregate was going out of business and had everything 90% off. (3 pairs of pants and 5 shirts for 75 cents.) We have been hanging up the clothes to dry instead of using the dryer more often. We used to only do that in the winter with things like blankets that would have taken forever in the dryer. We've also been following a handful of the tips already mentioned, but most of them we were doing before the economy turned sour, so they aren't really things we changed because of the recession. Oh, and I've been packing my lunch almost everyday for the last few months.
March 11, 200916 yr Thank you for your service and your sacrifice. You deserve whatever grants and scholarships you can get.
March 11, 200916 yr The laundry techniques have multiple benefits. I've been washing my clothes in cold water for years, and hanging them to dry. In winter, I use a rack that's on rollers and put it under the ceiling fan in the kitchen. That uses less energy than heating water and running a clothes dryer, and clothes last a lot longer. Sweaters get hand-washed in cold water with Woolite and spread on a big towel on the floor to dry. I don't watch television, which saves the energy to power the set and gives me more time to pursue creative/productive activities (and not stay up late watching stupid people do and say stupid sh!t). I've replaced nearly all the bulbs in my house with CFLs, using the daylight/full spectrum/6500K ones that approximate the color of daylight coming in the windows. I think they make things look brighter than the 2800K ones that match tungsten-filament bulbs. My electric bill runs about $35/month for a 1,600 square foot house, less than half of what my brother pays on his somewhat smaller place. Probably my major use of electricity is my desktop computer with CRT monitor, although I leave it on standby when I'm not actively using it, and turn it off/unplug it during storm season. I've thought about renting out a spare room like I did in the 80s, but that didn't always work out well; some renters started out good, but fell behind on their rent and didn't catch up, ate my food, and brought home overnight "guests."
March 11, 200916 yr To combat the recession, I turn off cnn. Sounds like a good plan outside of the CNN thing! I actually saw a set of surveys where the majority thought that the economy was extremely bad, but then the same majority said it hadn't really affected them personally. It makes you wonder if people think it's actually worse than it is just because of the media coverage. After all, perception is reality -- if people think we're in a recession and buy less, it leads to a recession.
March 11, 200916 yr To combat the recession, I turn off cnn. Sounds like a good plan outside of the CNN thing! I actually saw a set of surveys where the majority thought that the economy was extremely bad, but then the same majority said it hadn't really affected them personally. It makes you wonder if people think it's actually worse than it is just because of the media coverage. After all, perception is reality -- if people think we're in a recession and buy less, it leads to a recession. I honestly think the economy IS that bad. I think we (as a country) collectively had our heads in the sand since the dot.com bust. It hasn't affected me personally but so many people are "saving face", yet finances are killing them financially and personally. Nobody wants to be seen as poor, even people losing their homes. So they front. My parents are in their mid sixties, my father called me to talk about my Mom's spending. He afraid to tell her that if she continues to spend like she currently is she'll have to go back to work part-time. Personally I think that will be a good thing.
March 11, 200916 yr I think it might be a little of both. The media being a little more alarmist than perhaps it should as that helps ratinsg, combined with the fact that it really is "that bad" a lot of places. OTOH, it could be that it's worse than most average people can see, in larger ways that they cannot (yet) comprehend.
March 11, 200916 yr I think it might be a little of both. The media being a little more alarmist than perhaps it should as that helps ratinsg, combined with the fact that it really is "that bad" a lot of places. OTOH, it could be that it's worse than most average people can see, in larger ways that they cannot (yet) comprehend. To expand on what RNR states, I also think it's where and who you ask. Just like housing, the high end established luxury markets are the last to feel the far reaching affects. Same with finances, those that have invested wisely and are of upper class, old school money will be the last to feel the pain.
March 11, 200916 yr I think it might be a little of both. The media being a little more alarmist than perhaps it should as that helps ratinsg, combined with the fact that it really is "that bad" a lot of places. OTOH, it could be that it's worse than most average people can see, in larger ways that they cannot (yet) comprehend. The media sugarcoats it greatly in Detroit and Toledo. The difference between Detroit and Toledo compared to the rest of America is night and day. The unemployment rates speak for themselves. Detroit has an unemployment rate over 20% and Toledo is over 14%. How about going out, getting a job, and reducing that 14%? I bet I could find something in Toledo tomorrow!
March 11, 200916 yr How about going out, getting a job, and reducing that 14%? I bet I could find something in Toledo tomorrow! ^Dan, how about you actually move to a place like Toledo and get rejected 30 times because you have a college degree. You know nothing about what you're talking about. Put your money where your mouth is! Move to Detroit or Toledo, then get back to me when you have something valuable to say. The unemployment rate is high because there aren't enough jobs, not even close to enough. How hard is that to understand? People like you are clueless. You have no idea how few jobs there are around here. Experience trumps all. When you're going for a restaurant job against people who've done it for 20 years, you don't stand a chance. Your ass would be out on the street in no time. I bet you don't even know how to survive without a job, do you? You obviously have no clue what it's like to live in an area with a bad economy. Keep living in la-la land, buddy. C-Dawg, I dont think Dan is trying to start a fight, I think he is saying, jump on anything there is. Like I said, I deliver newspapers for extra money, and it's pretty easy to secure a job doing that. Is it glamorous, Heck no. Also, check out Pizza Delivery, or working nights in the grocery stores. There are ussually jobs doing that. there are crappy jobs out there, but they will pay you around $300/week. And based on what you said, it cost next to nothing to live in Toledo. Hopefully, someday soon, you can secure a job in the field you want to get into, but inthe meantime, get a "goofy" job that you can have some fun with. Sometimes those mindless tasks are theaputic (SP).
March 11, 200916 yr C-Dawg, I dont think Dan is trying to start a fight, I think he is saying, jump on anything there is. Like I said, I deliver newspapers for extra money, and it's pretty easy to secure a job doing that. Is it glamorous, Heck no. Also, check out Pizza Delivery, or working nights in the grocery stores. Again, you don't get it. Those jobs don't exist around here anymore. No one quits them and grocery stores and restaurants are closing down left and right. The situation in Detroit and Toledo is completely different from anywhere else in the country. I've applied to close to 100 jobs like that to no avail. They take people who've done it for 20 years. One of the retail jobs I applied for turned out it was for another city. You don't move to be making $8.00 an hour. Not everyone who is out of work is lazy or too snooty to do bottom feeder jobs (in fact, most of us apply to those jobs religiously). Is Mayday lazy because he lost his job? Am I lazy because all my projects got cancelled due to massive budget cuts? Some things in life are beyond your control. What's happening in Detroit and Toledo is beyond people's control. It's not like you wake up one morning and say, "gee, I think today is a good day to be out of work." No, it doesn't work that way. The whole blame the victim thing is incredibly played out, especially in places like Detroit and Toledo. No one around here is blaming the people who lose their jobs. These cities are in freefall, no way to sugarcoat that. I think what the choir is trying to say is, there are jobs there, you need to think outside the box. You might have to be a little more entrepreneurial in your thinking.
March 11, 200916 yr C-Dawg, I dont think Dan is trying to start a fight, I think he is saying, jump on anything there is. Like I said, I deliver newspapers for extra money, and it's pretty easy to secure a job doing that. Is it glamorous, Heck no. Also, check out Pizza Delivery, or working nights in the grocery stores. Again, you don't get it. Those jobs don't exist around here anymore. No one quits them and grocery stores and restaurants are closing down left and right. The situation in Detroit and Toledo is completely different from anywhere else in the country. I've applied to close to 100 jobs like that to no avail. They take people who've done it for 20 years. One of the retail jobs I applied for turned out it was for another city. You don't move to be making $8.00 an hour. Not everyone who is out of work is lazy or too snooty to do bottom feeder jobs (in fact, most of us apply to those jobs religiously). Is Mayday lazy because he lost his job? Am I lazy because all my projects got cancelled due to massive budget cuts? Some things in life are beyond your control. What's happening in Detroit and Toledo is beyond people's control. It's not like you wake up one morning and say, "gee, I think today is a good day to be out of work." No, it doesn't work that way. Whoa whoa whoa C-Dawg, trust me, I know the way it works. People who lose their jobs are not one bit lazy at all, unless of coarse they lost their job for that reason. However, the point is, their are jobs out there, and in times like this, they are not glamorous. That's all we are saying. I was in Toledo a couple weekends ago, and did check the want ads, and there are janatorial, cleaning, stocking jobs. You said 14% unemployed. Sure, that sounds bad, but it also means 86 out of 100 people are working. Think of it that way. Get out of the mindset that Toledo is that bad. Trust me, there are jobs to be had. It may take filling out 15 to 20 apps a day within a 30 mile radius. Who knows. But there are jobs. Try First Solar or Xunilight (I know you will respond by saying they are not hiring). Are the paper routes in Toledo all full. FYI, the Plain Dealer and I believe the Blade also is not allowing people under 16 to do this anymore, and high school kids can't be bothered. So try that.
March 11, 200916 yr C-Dawg, I understand. A friend of mine back in Akron has her Master's, lost her job at kent, and has Foster Children so she's taking ANY job that comes available- even being a dishwasher at Barberton hospital. This woman is a hard worker, and she would even do jobs that only needed an Associate's- but they don't exist. But If i may ask...how open are you to moving?
March 11, 200916 yr ^Move here. NO. Saying, "move here" is not the point we're trying to make. Dan and I are at very differnt points in our careers so the jobs we would be looking for would be vastly different than a job you're looking at. Granted in this market may people are looking below their skill set (experience), so I'll give you that. In addition, Dan and I probably have more management experience, network connections, professional memberships, etc. than a job candidate of your age/experience. So do you belong to any networs? professional membership in your field? This is a time to call out all the stops.
March 11, 200916 yr I'm not telling you anything I haven't said to my daughter when she complained that she couldn't find a job, that they were all beneath her.
March 11, 200916 yr Cincinnati. But its the same thing, she didn't want to do anything she thought she was overqualified for.
March 11, 200916 yr No, you're wrong. She's working well beneath her qualifications. But that's all besides the point, its 1 in the afternoon. What are you doing sitting behind your computer? Get out and look for a job!
March 11, 200916 yr In addition, Dan and I probably have more management experience, network connections, professional memberships, etc. than a job candidate of your age/experience. So do you belong to any networs? professional membership in your field? This is a time to call out all the stops. Of course, you've guys got decades on me. What I do is cold call and cold email, even when they explicitly say not to. Sometimes high pressure tactics get you an interview. And no, I don't belong to a professional network. There is no professional network in my field in Toledo. Producers are a rarity in these parts. Have you walk INTO a TV studio or production company?
March 11, 200916 yr ^Of course. ;) annnnnnnnd? Lots of company's do exploratoy interviews. What happened?
March 11, 200916 yr ^Of course. ;) annnnnnnnd? Lots of company's do exploratory interviews. What happened? Nothing. They weren't hiring or taking applications. ummm how about an unpaid intership since you're not working? Also, you could move and live on less than $10 an hour. Many people are doing it now. What exactly do you have that is preventing you from moving. At your age, you can't possibly have an abundance of furniture, appliances, personal goods, etc., that prevent you from moving. I think you're in an apartment, you'll get your security deposit back and can apply that to a new unit. Family issues is a different thing. I hear excuses. You could be typing term papers; doing data entry work. Anything that will get you in the door. Have you gone to an employment agency like Manpower or Kelley?
March 11, 200916 yr How many of these have you applied for? This took me 5 minutes to come up with these leads: AE for media sales job at Time Warner ("college degree preferred"): http://tinyurl.com/d7gw2c Laundry assistant at elder care: http://tinyurl.com/aj2289 Firestone auto retail sales ("college degree a plus"): http://tinyurl.com/befdp4 FT sales associate at Radio Shack: http://tinyurl.com/b6ewlu Customer service at TWC: http://tinyurl.com/d8uxkb Loss prevention at Sears: http://tinyurl.com/bwqdfh Cashier at Kmart: http://tinyurl.com/bmjy5o Telemarketing for Scott's lawn service: http://tinyurl.com/bozmlz Stocking job at Kmart: http://tinyurl.com/cctk45
March 11, 200916 yr ^Of course. ;) annnnnnnnd? Lots of company's do exploratory interviews. What happened? Nothing. They weren't hiring or taking applications. ummm how about an unpaid intership since you're not working? I know several friends who went the unpaid internship route right after graduating just to get a foot in the door, a couple ended up getting hired by the places they interned at.
March 11, 200916 yr How many of these have you applied for? This took me 5 minutes to come up with these leads: AE for media sales job at Time Warner ("college degree preferred"): http://tinyurl.com/d7gw2c Laundry assistant at elder care: http://tinyurl.com/aj2289 Firestone auto retail sales ("college degree a plus"): http://tinyurl.com/befdp4 FT sales associate at Radio Shack: http://tinyurl.com/b6ewlu Customer service at TWC: http://tinyurl.com/d8uxkb Loss prevention at Sears: http://tinyurl.com/bwqdfh Cashier at Kmart: http://tinyurl.com/bmjy5o Telemarketing for Scott's lawn service: http://tinyurl.com/bozmlz Stocking job at Kmart: http://tinyurl.com/cctk45 I looked at four of those jobs myself, I was waiting for him to answer about employement agencies before I gave him more rope! Darn you! ;) ;)
March 11, 200916 yr EV Cheese is by Astor Place? I think I've been past there and thought what a great place, but because I wasn't going straight home, I didn't go in. As cardsnxtyr would say, I love me some cheese! Taking the bus to and from downtown cleveland every day for work and class at csu for the past year now is the biggest change i've made. I was spending close to $60 - $70 a week on gas and sometimes more. I work saturdays in legacy village and when the weather is warm enough ill take the bus to work and then roller blade or ride my bike home, ya know what im sayin' MTS. Also by taking the bus ive saved $140 each semester for a parking permit at csu, so $280 total. Ill be graduating this summer and still havnt decided if im going to move out of the parents house yet, depends on how soon or if i can get a full time job. Ive also stopped using my credit card and have gotten the balance down to around $200 and am looking to pay it off before the summer, the scissors will be out and in action the day that balance gets to zero, ya know what im sayin' MTS.
March 11, 200916 yr EV Cheese is by Astor Place? I think I've been past there and thought what a great place, but because I wasn't going straight home, I didn't go in. As cardsnxtyr would say, I love me some cheese! Taking the bus to and from downtown cleveland every day for work and class at csu for the past year now is the biggest change i've made. I was spending close to $60 - $70 a week on gas and sometimes more. I work saturdays in legacy village and when the weather is warm enough ill take the bus to work and then roller blade or ride my bike home, ya know what im sayin' MTS. Also by taking the bus ive saved $140 each semester for a parking permit at csu, so $280 total. Ill be graduating this summer and still havnt decided if im going to move out of the parents house yet, depends on how soon or if i can get a full time job. Ive also stopped using my credit card and have gotten the balance down to around $200 and am looking to pay it off before the summer, the scissors will be out and in action the day that balance gets to zero, ya know what im sayin' MTS. Riiiiiight!
March 11, 200916 yr How many of these have you applied for? This took me 5 minutes to come up with these leads: AE for media sales job at Time Warner ("college degree preferred"): http://tinyurl.com/d7gw2c Laundry assistant at elder care: http://tinyurl.com/aj2289 Firestone auto retail sales ("college degree a plus"): http://tinyurl.com/befdp4 FT sales associate at Radio Shack: http://tinyurl.com/b6ewlu Customer service at TWC: http://tinyurl.com/d8uxkb Loss prevention at Sears: http://tinyurl.com/bwqdfh Cashier at Kmart: http://tinyurl.com/bmjy5o Telemarketing for Scott's lawn service: http://tinyurl.com/bozmlz Stocking job at Kmart: http://tinyurl.com/cctk45 What does Dayton have to do with Toledo? Why would I move to make minumum wage? You can't survive off that. It's completely unrealistic to move by yourself for a job stocking at K-Mart. That's just insane, and well, pointless. I'm much better off to keep applying for jobs in my field in other cities. I'm not throwing in the towel and moving to Dayton to work at K-Mart or Radio Shack. I'm continuing on my career path and making supplemental income at home until I get a full-time position in another city. That's probably the smartest thing to do right now. Moving for minimum wage is not a smart idea. I'd also like to know why he can't move. I can move. I made that clear. I refuse to move for minimum wage though outside my field. That's not sustainable, especially when you have health coverage needs. sorry, I thought you were in Dayton. JESUS. You are on your own. With your attitude, I just can't imagine why anyone youv'e interviewed with doesn't hire you. I would say good luck but you will clearly make your own luck.
March 11, 200916 yr ^ I think RnR got her mid-sized OH cities mixed up. I think the idea is he might have to "think outside the box" and expand his search.
March 11, 200916 yr How many of these have you applied for? This took me 5 minutes to come up with these leads: AE for media sales job at Time Warner ("college degree preferred"): http://tinyurl.com/d7gw2c Laundry assistant at elder care: http://tinyurl.com/aj2289 Firestone auto retail sales ("college degree a plus"): http://tinyurl.com/befdp4 FT sales associate at Radio Shack: http://tinyurl.com/b6ewlu Customer service at TWC: http://tinyurl.com/d8uxkb Loss prevention at Sears: http://tinyurl.com/bwqdfh Cashier at Kmart: http://tinyurl.com/bmjy5o Telemarketing for Scott's lawn service: http://tinyurl.com/bozmlz Stocking job at Kmart: http://tinyurl.com/cctk45 What does Dayton have to do with Toledo? Why would I move to make minumum wage? You can't survive off that. It's completely unrealistic to move by yourself for a job stocking at K-Mart. That's just insane, and well, pointless. I'm much better off to keep applying for jobs in my field in other cities. I'm not throwing in the towel and moving to Dayton to work at K-Mart or Radio Shack. I'm continuing on my career path and making supplemental income at home until I get a full-time position in another city. That's probably the smartest thing to do right now. Moving for minimum wage is not a smart idea. I'd also like to know why he can't move. I can move. I made that clear. I refuse to move for minimum wage though outside my field. That's not sustainable, especially when you have health coverage needs. sorry, I thought you were in Dayton. JESUS. You are on your own. With your attitude, I just can't imagine why anyone youv'e interviewed with doesn't hire you. I would say good luck but you will clearly make your own luck. No no no. there are jobs in the Toledo are with two of those company's
March 11, 200916 yr ^ I think RnR got her mid-sized OH cities mixed up. I think the idea is he might have to "think outside the box" and expand his search. EXACTLY. If I can find those in 5 minutes searching in Dayton, I'm sure there are similar jobs in Toledo. I think the attitude and the method are a bigger problem than the actual lack of jobs.
March 11, 200916 yr So if things are really so much better everywhere other than Toledo, why not move somewhere else and get 2 of these lousy jobs? What laws say you can't work more than 40 hours per week? I think you need an attitude adjustment. Typical spoiled kid who won't support himself because he has a BS degree from OU.
March 11, 200916 yr Re what C-Dawg is doing to combat the recession, the entry level tide-you-over job market is completely different than it was for me 10-15 years ago. Very different... and it bears no relation to the era before that. Opportunities you/we took for granted just aren't there anymore, and it does no good to blame the victims. First, there are less jobs at that level period, due to automation and foreign competition. No this doesn't apply directly to food service or Kmart but it applies to the labor market as a whole. Second, there are more people working well into retirement age, and when they're willing to work cheap, they're preferred over graduates of any kind. Third, mid-career people who are wildly overqualified already hold a lot of these jobs. C-Dawg, having just graduated, is probably less wildly overqualified than many applicants they have. He isn't the only one screwed right now. Moving away for a job that doesn't pay enough, especially if you have any obligations at all, can be self-destructive. You're a stranger in a strange land with nothing, cut off from your networks and your safety nets, so if anything goes wrong your credit score is more likely to burn.
March 11, 200916 yr Re what C-Dawg is doing to combat the recession, the entry level tide-you-over job market is completely different than it was for me 10-15 years ago. Very different... and it bears no relation to the era before that. Opportunities you/we took for granted just aren't there anymore, and it does no good to blame the victims. First, there are less jobs at that level period, due to automation and foreign competition. No this doesn't apply directly to food service or Kmart but it applies to the labor market as a whole. Second, there are more people working well into retirement age, and when they're willing to work cheap, they're preferred over graduates of any kind. Third, mid-career people who are wildly overqualified already hold a lot of these jobs. C-Dawg, having just graduated, is probably less wildly overqualified than many applicants they have. He isn't the only one screwed right now. Moving away for a job that doesn't pay enough, especially if you have any obligations at all, can be self-destructive. You're a stranger in a strange land with nothing, cut off from your networks and your safety nets, so if anything goes wrong your credit score is more likely to burn. What networks? He said earlier he doesn't have any. C-Dawg doesn't strike me as the shy type. He can move. Hell, it not that hard.
March 11, 200916 yr ^ Have you looked at some of the more seasonal places that should be hiring soon? Cedar Point or a local waterslide park? Garden Centers? Lawn Care companies?
March 11, 200916 yr C-Dawg, don't let people shame you into doing something that makes no sense. I don't know your field, and it may be wise to work on plans B and C, but becoming a drifter like Rambo shouldn't be one of them. If you're going to be poor anyway, you might as well retain some control over your situation. Having secure and realistic plans doesn't mean you're lazy or short-sighted.
March 11, 200916 yr I didn't go to college to get on public assistance and work 3 jobs at a time, but that's what I did when I got out of college. I worked in retail sales and waitressing jobs and freelance wrote for extra money. I also taught adult education classes once a week so if you count that as a job, I had 4 jobs at one time for part of the time. "I didn't go to college to move to Dayton and work at K-Mart" is the attitude problem.
March 11, 200916 yr You kids have got to pay your dues. RNR is right about that. Kmart pays plenty of salary's and if push comes to shove get a second job.
March 11, 200916 yr Right, I had it SO easy working 4 jobs and being on public assistance, it was a breeze. Working at several PT jobs does indeed pay enough to be on your own. And if you are below the poverty line, you can at least get food stamps even if you don't qualify for welfare. You just don't WANT to.
March 11, 200916 yr "I didn't go to college to move to Dayton and work at K-Mart" is the attitude problem. Moving somewhere to work at Kmart, with today's college costs, can be a financially irresponsible decision that destroys a good portion of your life. Unfortunately, each of us faces a different predicament in this world. A great solution for some may not be appropriate for all. If certain numbers don't line up for someone, that's not an attitude problem.
March 11, 200916 yr Nobody said working at Kmart is a great solution, or his only option. I found NINE jobs in 5 minutes of searching, albeit the wrong geographic area, and I can bet you at least half of them pay more than minimum wage. There are options out there. He just doesn't want to get a job that's not related to his field of study, and I can tell you, with a husband who has a degree in radio and tv production, you had better get used to taking LOTS of jobs that have NOTHING to do with your field of study and feel lucky when you get one now and again that does, unless you plan to move to a bigger market.
March 11, 200916 yr C-Dawg, I did a search on the same site that RNR used and found 71 retail jobs in the Toledo area. There a number of jobs offered by Kmart that required no experience. Pierce Promotions had 2 job openings that pays $12-$14 an hour and doesn't require experience (one in Bowling Green, Oh and the other in Holland, Oh).
March 11, 200916 yr "My goal is to keep plugging away at jobs in my field and hope for the best. " How's that working out for you so far?
March 11, 200916 yr So what I'm getting out of this is basically that Toldeo just sucks...I have a feeling that the situation there probably isn't as doomsday as C-Dawg is making it out to be, however. One tip I would have is to get your life guarding certification and work as a life guard. I do this in the summers and make $10 an hour, and they're always hiring. Seriously though, if you know you could get a job in Cincy, Cleveland, or Columbus, why don't you just save up for a few months and move there? The cost of living is really not that much higher in those cities than Toledo, and you can get a pretty cool place in Cincy for pretty cheap.
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March 11, 200916 yr Right, I had it SO easy working 4 jobs and being on public assistance, it was a breeze. Working at several PT jobs does indeed pay enough to be on your own. And if you are below the poverty line, you can at least get food stamps even if you don't qualify for welfare. You just don't WANT to. I'm sorry, that is utterly false and ignores the biggest problem facing recent graduates. Depending on your debt structure, it is entirely possible that 3 menial jobs will not keep you afloat and your credit will quickly and semi-permanently be destroyed. Especially if you end up having to live alone. And that's if you can hold 3 jobs, the availability demands have also changed in ways you may not be accounting for. If you can't understand the current situation, or choose to disbelieve it, at least don't pile scorn on those to whom it's all too familiar. Things. Are. Different. Now. C-Dawg, now that I know your field I would emphasize my previous point about plans B and C. I minored in film/video production, and I do know people who got jobs in that field. In the 90s. Not now. My best friend graduated with a video major about 10 years ago, did some scantly paid production work at a Youngstown TV station, then for a while drove around a satellite uplink truck for live broadcasts. Long story short, he just finished his second undergrad degree in something completely different.
March 11, 200916 yr I quit one of my two jobs. I left the lower-paying more stable job for the higher paying less stable one. Was that smart? Ask me in a year. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 11, 200916 yr C-Dawg, I did a search on the same site that RNR used and found 71 retail jobs in the Toledo area. There a number of jobs offered by Kmart that required no experience. Pierce Promotions had 2 job openings that pays $12-$14 an hour and doesn't require experience (one in Bowling Green, Oh and the other in Holland, Oh). How familiar are you with jobs like Pierce Promotions? :wink: Not at all really, just trying to help. Still doesn't change the fact that Kmart is hiring at several locations in/around Toledo. You could get a PT job there and still look for jobs (in your field) in bigger markets.
March 11, 200916 yr C-Dawg, I did a search on the same site that RNR used and found 71 retail jobs in the Toledo area. There a number of jobs offered by Kmart that required no experience. Pierce Promotions had 2 job openings that pays $12-$14 an hour and doesn't require experience (one in Bowling Green, Oh and the other in Holland, Oh). How familiar are you with jobs like Pierce Promotions? ;) Not at all really, just trying to help. Still doesn't change the fact that Kmart is hiring at several locations in/around Toledo. You could get a PT job there and still look for jobs (in your field) in bigger markets. The Jr. whippersnapper schools the Sr. whippersnapper.
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