I'm so hungry after visiting that website.

That's really interesting, JMeck. I wonder if 126.4 is the average or considered ideal weight according to standards set with BMI for a woman who is 5'4 (the average height of a woman.)

 

Wait...is the average woman really only 5'-4" I must surround myself with tall women...

That's really interesting, JMeck. I wonder if 126.4 is the average or considered ideal weight according to standards set with BMI for a woman who is 5'4 (the average height of a woman.)

 

From the internet...

5' 4" 110 to 144 lbs. is normal

That's really interesting, JMeck. I wonder if 126.4 is the average or considered ideal weight according to standards set with BMI for a woman who is 5'4 (the average height of a woman.)

 

Wait...is the average woman really only 5'-4" I must surround myself with tall women...

 

Yes, that the average height for women in the US.  Men are somewhere around 5"9

I have the Samsung Gear S2 smartwatch and recently purchased the Yunmai Smartscale for like $42. Best purchase in a long time.

 

It's interesting to track your health stats over time with all of this tech!

 

https://www.iyunmai.us/collections/yunmai-color-bluetooth-smart-scale

 

 

Wait...is the average woman really only 5'-4" I must surround myself with tall women...

 

 

Or living in the Netherlands

That's really interesting, JMeck. I wonder if 126.4 is the average or considered ideal weight according to standards set with BMI for a woman who is 5'4 (the average height of a woman.)

 

Wait...is the average woman really only 5'-4" I must surround myself with tall women...

 

Me too. I love tall women  :-D. We're broken up, at least for now, but Jennifer (my girlfriend of 3 and a half years) is  6'0. We're the same height. I didn't think that was weird at all and sort of forgot how tall she is until it dawned on me that the average is only 5'4.  Those pictures of scales would probably p!ss her off, lol. Even after going from Vegetarian to Vegan and losing a lot of weight, practically at bean-pole status she is still like 155-160 pounds. 

A very tall woman can be angry at the world like how a short man is angry at the world.  I worked with an angry volleyball player named Rebecca, who stood about 6'2", who we all called Chewbecca. 

^That's pretty childish and sexist.

I think it's sizest more than anything.

^ "Body shaming" is the PC term I've heard thrown around. According to PC principles, if you body shame a woman it is also automatically sexist.

^That's pretty childish and sexist.

 

The Chewbecca comment obviously is and in all fairness, Jake doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would do that being the person he is today. We all have said and done hurtful, cruel things when we were younger but I think he may be right about tall women being angry at the world. At least in some regard. My girlfriend was like that. Now that I think about it, men in my family tend to all go for tall women, which is pretty funny. I have a little brother (from another mother) and his mom is I think 5'11. My grandma on my dad's side is 5'10. My Aunt Kathy who is my dad's brother's wife, has to be at least 6'0. Now that I think about it, my now ex girlfriend along with all these tall women in my extended family do seem to be angry towards the world, but especially towards small, petite, women. They're all really critical of other people. They're all pretty unconventional people. Psychology is such an interesting field and when you study it and learn how things have been clinically proven to effect people in certain ways, you realize that it isn't always common-sense or practical. It's superficial and irrational, but very real none-the-less. I can't say that I know precisely why but maybe when you don't fit society's standard, you feel the need to snap back and you're dealing with deep-seated issue that go back to childhood trauma.

 

All of these woman I'm thinking of, are Tom-boyish, too, and have a lot of male friends. My ex-girlfriend had a lot of male friends which took me a long time to get used to. I did see them as a threat for a long time. It was just bizarre to me. A lot of people, men and women have certain height requirements regarding short or tall. Men definitely tend to be turned off by women who are the same height or taller (and lets be real...even slightly shorter) and I think my now ex-girlfriend just got really comfortable being friends with guys after being "friend-zoned" by default so many times because she's so much taller than a lot of guys. Also, maybe when you're a tall women, you intimidate other women, even other women who have good intentions and don't believe in discrimination or pre-conceived notions. We often make sub-concious decisions based on feelings dictated by the sub-conscious mind. Maybe they view tall women as more masculine or threatening for some reason. Same with a typical man's perception of tall women. That could understandably make a tall woman feel bitter.

 

I remembered signing up for an online dating site, browsing around and coming across my little brother's mom's profile! It was so weird. Basically her personalized, "About Me" section of her profile simply explained that she's tall and is looking for a guy who isn't intimidated by that." That's literally all it consisted of, and yet, I mean, she's a pretty attractive woman but I guess that only matters to an extent. I was kind of surprised to see she chose to simply point THAT out and be upfront about THAT of all things.

 

As a guy, I've always been really confident in my body (yeah, of course I'd like to be a little more buff, a little more lean or whatever but I definitely don't have any issues regarding any aspect of body image.) I think I'm naturally above average (and if I happened to not be, I really don't think I'd give a sh!t) yet the reality is (and it goes almost completely unreported) men suffer from severe insecurities about their size (in all areas) and at least for me, it isn't hard to see how that could commonly, even if subtly or subconsciously, get taken out on tall women in one way or another - thus, just giving them one more reason to be bitter towards the world. It's not easy being a woman, let alone being a tall one. I'm not sure why I'm even attracted to tall women. I know I'm physically attracted to them being tall but unfortunately, my thoughts, feelings and actions, like everyone else, can be dictated by the sub-conscious mind - so who knows. It really does seem like they're generally tough as nails and independent though, which I love. Thank God it's not an Oedipus Complex, as my mom is only 5'6. Ha!

 

I think it's sizest more than anything.

 

Hehe. Oh God, I hope the SJWs don't see your catchy new word on this page. That'll be their very next frontier (ahead of world poverty and starvation, the heroin epidemic, climate change, etc.)

My experience with tall women is what I assume it's like being attacked by a praying mantis.  The venue where being with a significantly taller woman is its most awkward isn't out on the dance floor, it's sitting on the couch.  You feel like you're sitting with your babysitter or something.  Next time I'll sit on the arm rest to re-assert my dominance! 

What on earth are you guys talking about? I, and I am certainly not alone, have known and do know plenty of tall women who don't remotely fit those descriptions. They may be a little annoyed with people patronizing them about their height, and sometimes they slouch in pictures, but they in no way are angry people, and I can't think of any who fit that bill.

 

Now if you're discussing models who tend to be tall and their snobbish, superior attitudes, well, that I can see.

This is the "This is why you're fat!" thread not "This is why you're short/tall, single, and alone!" I know, I know a modest distinction in many an eye, but more gluttony please.

Well, my girlfriend was fat too, when I first met her so I contend that it's relevant to the discussion.  :wink2:

As an avid dater when I was younger, I dated a few tall gals. I learned to like it but only because it fed my ego in a weird way. Having a statuesque blonde or brunette on one's arm has a certain glamour to it. How's that for being a shallow bastard?

 

Once I got over myself, I definitely ended up with average women - from a height perspective. ?

 

To bring this back on track, how ridiculous is BMI by today's standards. I mean, you can't touch weight training if you want to be normal by govt standards.

I think it's somewhat ridiculous, everyone's obsession with calories when they don't even really understand what a calorie is. It's just a measurement of heat energy. It's fuel for your body but leave it to Americans to see it as an enemy. It's important to recognize where you can get nutrient-dense calories. I see all of these things that are clearly just bad for you anyway, that are marketed as low calorie because they're a really small portion size. Like candy bars, for instance. They're selling individual milky Way bars the size of a AA battery, now. that say they only have 100 calories. Meanwhile, a giant apple has like 90. The only reason calories are an issue for some people is because they consume so much fat, which has twice as many calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein. People might ingest too many calories from carbs simply because it's easy to binge on refined sugar in the form of soft drinks but outside of that, the issue is fat.

 

If you ate nothing but fruits and veggies, beans (and occasionally nuts, which you would need in order to ingest SOME healthy fat, so that you're at least able to manufacture hormones, lubricate your joints and other basic needs) anybody would drop weight rapidly. Even if you're someone who has let their stomach expand, (like me - I can eat an entire large pizza at once...and I do) you would have a very hard time filling your stomach up with more than 600 calories of apples, potatoes, spinach, etc. etc. at one time. Especially if they're uncooked. There's just not enough room in your stomach to get enough calories from bulky plant food. I see so many people who really do eat healthy; they eat whole foods on a daily basis but they're still fat because they dump so much ranch on their mixed green salads or drench their sauteed spinach in a crap ton of extra virgin olive oil or butter. Or they go nuts with cheese and have to put it on everything. For some reason, they wonder why they're not losing any weight when they have all this healthy stuff in their fridge.

 

It's unfortunate that fat is so d@mn delicious.

 

I think it's somewhat ridiculous, everyone's obsession with calories when they don't even really understand what a calorie is. It's just a measurement of heat energy. It's fuel for your body but leave it to Americans to see it as an enemy. It's important to recognize where you can get nutrient-dense calories. I see all of these things that are clearly just bad for you anyway, that are marketed as low calorie because they're a really small portion size. Like candy bars, for instance. They're selling individual milky Way bars the size of a AA battery, now. that say they only have 100 calories. Meanwhile, a giant apple has like 90. The only reason calories are an issue for some people is because they consume so much fat, which has twice as many calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein. People might ingest too many calories from carbs simply because it's easy to binge on refined sugar in the form of soft drinks but outside of that, the issue is fat.

 

If you ate nothing but fruits and veggies, beans (and occasionally nuts, which you would need in order to ingest SOME healthy fat, so that you're at least able to manufacture hormones, lubricate your joints and other basic needs) anybody would drop weight rapidly. Even if you're someone who has let their stomach expand, (like me - I can eat an entire large pizza at once...and I do) you would have a very hard time filling your stomach up with more than 600 calories of apples, potatoes, spinach, etc. etc. at one time. Especially if they're uncooked. There's just not enough room in your stomach to get enough calories from bulky plant food. I see so many people who really do eat healthy; they eat whole foods on a daily basis but they're still fat because they dump so much ranch on their mixed green salads or drench their sauteed spinach in a crap ton of extra virgin olive oil or butter. Or they go nuts with cheese and have to put it on everything. For some reason, they wonder why they're not losing any weight when they have all this healthy stuff in their fridge.

 

It's unfortunate that fat is so d@mn delicious.

 

 

I'm glad this was posted because it's utterly wrong in almost every respect.

 

First, a calorie is a unit of energy, but that is irrelevant to the human experience. We do not have a system for directly sensing and regulating units of energy, we have a hormonal system that senses and regulates hunger and satiety. That system is not tuned directly to units of energy, thus a calorie is not just a calorie. It's about how satisfied that calorie makes you feel.

 

Without getting into a long and tedious discussion of the different hormonal and neurological responses to eating this or that, it's generally safe to say that fat and protein make us more satisfied - per calorie - than carbs, especially simple carbs. You can tweak this by eating more complex carbs or by eating a lot of fiber with the carbs, but on a basic level, that carb calorie will not increase satiety as much as that fat or protein calorie. And we stop eating when we feel full, not when we reach a certain calorie target or our stomachs stretch to a certain size.

 

This all starts to lead into the history of obesity and heart disease research in the mid 20th century and the fat-vs-sugar battle that came out of that, but that's another story as well.

I think it's somewhat ridiculous, everyone's obsession with calories when they don't even really understand what a calorie is. It's just a measurement of heat energy. It's fuel for your body but leave it to Americans to see it as an enemy. It's important to recognize where you can get nutrient-dense calories. I see all of these things that are clearly just bad for you anyway, that are marketed as low calorie because they're a really small portion size. Like candy bars, for instance. They're selling individual milky Way bars the size of a AA battery, now. that say they only have 100 calories. Meanwhile, a giant apple has like 90. The only reason calories are an issue for some people is because they consume so much fat, which has twice as many calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein. People might ingest too many calories from carbs simply because it's easy to binge on refined sugar in the form of soft drinks but outside of that, the issue is fat.

 

If you ate nothing but fruits and veggies, beans (and occasionally nuts, which you would need in order to ingest SOME healthy fat, so that you're at least able to manufacture hormones, lubricate your joints and other basic needs) anybody would drop weight rapidly. Even if you're someone who has let their stomach expand, (like me - I can eat an entire large pizza at once...and I do) you would have a very hard time filling your stomach up with more than 600 calories of apples, potatoes, spinach, etc. etc. at one time. Especially if they're uncooked. There's just not enough room in your stomach to get enough calories from bulky plant food. I see so many people who really do eat healthy; they eat whole foods on a daily basis but they're still fat because they dump so much ranch on their mixed green salads or drench their sauteed spinach in a crap ton of extra virgin olive oil or butter. Or they go nuts with cheese and have to put it on everything. For some reason, they wonder why they're not losing any weight when they have all this healthy stuff in their fridge.

 

It's unfortunate that fat is so d@mn delicious.

 

 

I'm glad this was posted because it's utterly wrong in almost every respect.

 

First, a calorie is a unit of energy, but that is irrelevant to the human experience. We do not have a system for directly sensing and regulating units of energy, we have a hormonal system that senses and regulates hunger and satiety. That system is not tuned directly to units of energy, thus a calorie is not just a calorie. It's about how satisfied that calorie makes you feel.

 

Without getting into a long and tedious discussion of the different hormonal and neurological responses to eating this or that, it's generally safe to say that fat and protein make us more satisfied - per calorie - than carbs, especially simple carbs. You can tweak this by eating more complex carbs or by eating a lot of fiber with the carbs, but on a basic level, that carb calorie will not increase satiety as much as that fat or protein calorie. And we stop eating when we feel full, not when we reach a certain calorie target or our stomachs stretch to a certain size.

 

This all starts to lead into the history of obesity and heart disease research in the mid 20th century and the fat-vs-sugar battle that came out of that, but that's another story as well.

 

You just said you were glad I posted what I did because it was almost completely and utterly wrong, but then you basically made most of the same points in your post...

If you ate nothing but fruits and veggies, beans (and occasionally nuts, which you would need in order to ingest SOME healthy fat, so that you're at least able to manufacture hormones, lubricate your joints and other basic needs) anybody would drop weight rapidly.

 

If you get a blender and make your own smoothies you can much more easily and routinely eat large quantities of fruit and vegetables.  For example, it's very easy to drink a large handful of spinach and two pieces of fruit than it is to sit there and eat the same. 

 

When you watch youtube videos where people making their own smoothies, they always throw a lot of extra crap in them.  Might as well drown your salad in ranch & blue cheese. 

 

 

I think it's somewhat ridiculous, everyone's obsession with calories when they don't even really understand what a calorie is. It's just a measurement of heat energy. It's fuel for your body but leave it to Americans to see it as an enemy. It's important to recognize where you can get nutrient-dense calories. I see all of these things that are clearly just bad for you anyway, that are marketed as low calorie because they're a really small portion size. Like candy bars, for instance. They're selling individual milky Way bars the size of a AA battery, now. that say they only have 100 calories. Meanwhile, a giant apple has like 90. The only reason calories are an issue for some people is because they consume so much fat, which has twice as many calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein. People might ingest too many calories from carbs simply because it's easy to binge on refined sugar in the form of soft drinks but outside of that, the issue is fat.

 

If you ate nothing but fruits and veggies, beans (and occasionally nuts, which you would need in order to ingest SOME healthy fat, so that you're at least able to manufacture hormones, lubricate your joints and other basic needs) anybody would drop weight rapidly. Even if you're someone who has let their stomach expand, (like me - I can eat an entire large pizza at once...and I do) you would have a very hard time filling your stomach up with more than 600 calories of apples, potatoes, spinach, etc. etc. at one time. Especially if they're uncooked. There's just not enough room in your stomach to get enough calories from bulky plant food. I see so many people who really do eat healthy; they eat whole foods on a daily basis but they're still fat because they dump so much ranch on their mixed green salads or drench their sauteed spinach in a crap ton of extra virgin olive oil or butter. Or they go nuts with cheese and have to put it on everything. For some reason, they wonder why they're not losing any weight when they have all this healthy stuff in their fridge.

 

It's unfortunate that fat is so d@mn delicious.

 

 

I'm glad this was posted because it's utterly wrong in almost every respect.

 

First, a calorie is a unit of energy, but that is irrelevant to the human experience. We do not have a system for directly sensing and regulating units of energy, we have a hormonal system that senses and regulates hunger and satiety. That system is not tuned directly to units of energy, thus a calorie is not just a calorie. It's about how satisfied that calorie makes you feel.

 

Without getting into a long and tedious discussion of the different hormonal and neurological responses to eating this or that, it's generally safe to say that fat and protein make us more satisfied - per calorie - than carbs, especially simple carbs. You can tweak this by eating more complex carbs or by eating a lot of fiber with the carbs, but on a basic level, that carb calorie will not increase satiety as much as that fat or protein calorie. And we stop eating when we feel full, not when we reach a certain calorie target or our stomachs stretch to a certain size.

 

This all starts to lead into the history of obesity and heart disease research in the mid 20th century and the fat-vs-sugar battle that came out of that, but that's another story as well.

 

You just said you were glad I posted what I did because it was almost completely and utterly wrong, but then you basically made most of the same points in your post...

 

Nah, you just don't understand what you're talking about. I hate to break it down too simply because the more simple you put it, the less universally accurate it is, but: Sugar calories make people fat, not fat calories. It's really hard to become very overweight just on extra fat, all things being equal our bodies have a reliable system of telling us to stop eating it. We don't have that for sugars.

 

Sorry, I'm not trying to troll you or be rude. But correct health information is important to me, personally and professionally.

Anyone consuming more calories than they burn will gain weight, whether that's fruit, veggies or candy bars and sodas. The reason we're hungry in the first place is because our bodies are crying out for nutrition and when we feed it McDonald's, Snickers bars, or other low-nutritious, processed foods it never feels full. Even consuming small amounts of fruits, vegetables, high-grain granola or nuts we will fill full quickly because it is getting what it needs to power you through your day. We are supposed to feel awake and energetic after eating, now our culture feels tired and sluggish.

 

This is why the profits of energy drinks and coffee/caffeine industry have soared.

 

The problem with society is just a basic lack of understanding & knowledge. We don't understand why we're hungry and we don't understand what's in food and the long-term affects of eating certain ingredients. Everyone has a smartphone, but we're too lazy to just quickly google something while we're grocery shopping?!

I wrestled in high school and still don't know how I cut so much weight but really once you get in the groove it's pretty simple.

 

For us, we took "fat tests" and before my junior year, I weighed in at 205 and my fat test said I could cut to 186 (7% body fat) allowed by the State of Iowa, I believe.

 

The first cut sucked and getting up to it but once the season got rolling it was easy.  We would have Thursday meets and Saturday tourneys throughout the year and as the year rolled along we would get an extra 1 lb. (weigh in at 190 lbs. for the 189 lb. weight class) then 2 lbs. later in the year.

 

Coming in Monday's I would typically weight around 202 or 203 and would need to get down to 190 or whatever by Thursday.  This was something that was fairly common.

 

When you are cutting weight or just wanting to lose weight in general, you need to switch your diet to chicken breast, salads, fruits and waters.  Don't take in hardly any carbs because 1 oz of carbs holds 2 oz of water (would be OK say after weigh in on Saturday's).  It takes about a week for your body to get used to the hunger change, but then you adapt.  You really don't start losing the weight fast until about 2 weeks after the diet change.  Then, it basically just falls off and the weight you lose is almost purely water weight.  If I had the discipline and wanted to, I could lose 20 lbs. fairly quickly using this method, heck I could afford to lose 30 lbs. but I am not wrestling so I have no incentive really.

 

It isn't starving yourself.  I weighed an extraordinary amount for myself about a year ago after going to the doctor with a severe head cold, and couldn't believe it.  I went on a diet similar to above and lost 30 lbs. in about a month with hardly any exercise.  I've been about that post weight loss weight for about a year and want to drop a bit further but it's difficult when you aren't working for something like making weight in wrestling.

^^ I think many people understand it, they are just faced with the problem that the things that taste the best aren't the most healthy. Perhaps, in a few centuries time, we will evolve to a point where healthy foods start to taste better to us as a species (maybe as the people who prefer unhealthy foods get fat and die off at younger ages or have trouble finding mates). We are still in the first or second generation of people to have essentially complete and total access to as much food as we can possibly consume. In the grand scheme of things this development was incredibly quick, and our bodies simple aren't ready for it.

 

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On a somewhat related topic, I don’t remember where we were having the discussion about food stamps, but thought this article from the New York Times fit the topic of this thread:

 

In the Shopping Cart of a Food Stamp Household: Lots of Soda

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/well/eat/food-stamp-snap-soda.html?_r=3

 

What do households on food stamps buy at the grocery store?

 

The answer was largely a mystery until now. The United States Department of Agriculture, which oversees the $74 billion food stamp program called SNAP, has published a detailed report that provides a glimpse into the shopping cart of the typical household that receives food stamps.

 

The findings show that the No. 1 purchases by SNAP households are soft drinks, which accounted for 5 percent of the dollars they spent on food. The category of ‘sweetened beverages,’ which includes soft drinks, fruit juices, energy drinks and sweetened teas, accounted for almost 10 percent of the dollars they spent on food. “In this sense, SNAP is a multibillion-dollar taxpayer subsidy of the soda industry,” said Marion Nestle, a professor of nutrition, food studies and public health at New York University. “It’s pretty shocking.

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Anecdotally, I’ve always thought this seemed like the case. 10% of anyone’s food budget seems like a lot to be spending on empty, sugary, drinkable calories.

Yeah, there's a couple states introducing bills that would prevent EBT card holders from buying soda, junk food and luxury items like Ribeye steaks and lobster and whatnot. I forgot which states they are. I want to say Connecticut and Arizona but I'm not sure. I don't see anything wrong with buying fruit juices if they're real fruit juice but the rest is pretty ridiculous. I've seen their carts, as I walk up in line behind them with my 10 items and realize I'm stuck behind them and their two carts are overflowing with 100+ items  - all processed crap that they buy so that they don't have to actually cook for themselves and their kids. The only time it's not processed, instant boxed food is when they've thown a bunch of steaks, salmon, shrimp, etc. I guess it's only worth the effort of cooking when you're getting something that most regular people can't afford. The majority of the stuff I buy goes bad after 3 days because it's for the most part, real food, so I can't imagine buying that many groceries at once. Ironic that they're too lazy to prep and cook real food considering most of them don't have jobs. If I had that kind of time on my hands, I'd be like Chef Ramsay in the kitchen.

What was really disturbing about the EBT soda article is that the percentage is in line with an average American household. Who buys that much soda? Wow. 

I hate being looked at like an alien when I order water with meals. I have always ordered water (or later in life, beer) with meals. To me, pop ruins the flavor of the food. I've noticed that its generally older members of the underclass with Appalachian or Southern roots that are the most disgusted by the idea of someone drinking water.

The majority of the stuff I buy goes bad after 3 days because it's for the most part, real food, so I can't imagine buying that many groceries at once. Ironic that they're too lazy to prep and cook real food considering most of them don't have jobs. If I had that kind of time on my hands, I'd be like Chef Ramsay in the kitchen.

 

Remember that, for the poor, just getting to the grocery store can be a major pain. Gas costs money, cars have to run, it could be a very long bus ride, they might have to pay for a cab etc. So when they go there it is an EVENT rather than a stop on the way home from work. That means lots of frozen food and stuff that keeps for a month or more. We can thank our largely unwalkable culture for that.

^^Interesting, for me soda is strictly for eating out and only gets bought with the groceries if we are entertaining.

I hate being looked at like an alien when I order water with meals. I have always ordered water (or later in life, beer) with meals. To me, pop ruins the flavor of the food. I've noticed that its generally older members of the underclass with Appalachian or Southern roots that are the most disgusted by the idea of someone drinking water.

 

Really? Well I guess that would be because the server would prefer if you got a $2.50 Coke, as it instantly adds 50 cents more to their tip. At least you don't order water with lemons and ask for a bunch of sugar packets. Those people are just cheap. They make their own lemonade because they don't want to pay for it.

 

Water with lemon customers are the worst. If you forget the lemon, they flip out on you like they're dying of scurvy.

I hate being looked at like an alien when I order water with meals. I have always ordered water (or later in life, beer) with meals. To me, pop ruins the flavor of the food. I've noticed that its generally older members of the underclass with Appalachian or Southern roots that are the most disgusted by the idea of someone drinking water.

 

Really? Well I guess that would be because the server would prefer if you got a $2.50 Coke, as it instantly adds 50 cents more to their tip.

 

 

I experience this mostly at fast food restaurants.

You mean where a small soda is now 32oz? It's crazy how large some of the cups at fast food places are.

 

Definitely why we (Americans) are fat.

I hate being looked at like an alien when I order water with meals. I have always ordered water (or later in life, beer) with meals. To me, pop ruins the flavor of the food. I've noticed that its generally older members of the underclass with Appalachian or Southern roots that are the most disgusted by the idea of someone drinking water.

 

Really? Well I guess that would be because the server would prefer if you got a $2.50 Coke, as it instantly adds 50 cents more to their tip.

 

 

I experience this mostly at fast food restaurants.

 

Maybe you look like you're about to steal Pepsi.

 

I could always hear when my customers were stealing pepsi after asking for a water cup. They ask you for water and then 5 seconds later you hear the co2 tank making that high pitched, busted tire noise. I loved calling people out on it and embarassing them, even though it literally only costed us 3 cents. Haha.

 

You mean where a small soda is now 32oz? It's crazy how large some of the cups at fast food places are.

 

Definitely why we (Americans) are fat.

 

Nah, they're more like 16-20oz for a small and in all fairness, they almost always load it up to the top with ice so you really are only getting like 12 ounces at the most. I really think the large size drinks are just a ploy to make people think they're getting a good deal. There is simply no reason for soft drinks to have as much ice as restaurants put in them. Soft drinks come out at 34-40 degrees anyway, without ice. People are getting ripped off, thinking they need to lower the temperature of their drinks by a couple degrees max with all that ice and diluting their drink and further preventing hydration in the process since you absorb more water if its ingested at a higher temperature.

I hate being looked at like an alien when I order water with meals. I have always ordered water (or later in life, beer) with meals. To me, pop ruins the flavor of the food. I've noticed that its generally older members of the underclass with Appalachian or Southern roots that are the most disgusted by the idea of someone drinking water.

 

Really? Well I guess that would be because the server would prefer if you got a $2.50 Coke, as it instantly adds 50 cents more to their tip.

 

 

I experience this mostly at fast food restaurants.

 

Maybe you look like you're about to steal Pepsi.

 

I could always hear when my customers were stealing pepsi after asking for a water cup. They ask you for water and then 5 seconds later you hear the co2 tank making that high pitched, busted tire noise. I loved calling people out on it and embarassing them, even though it literally only costed us 3 cents. Haha.

 

 

 

In most of the places where it seems to be a real problem they give you some kind of goofy cup like a tiny one or one that is clear. Or they pour water behind the counter. The North Canal Winchester McDs gives you a clear cup whereas it's open season at the new South Canal one. I'm pretty sure they're both owned by the same people, even.

You mean where a small soda is now 32oz? It's crazy how large some of the cups at fast food places are.

 

When I worked at a KFC in high school I use to be amazed at the people who would buy family sized meals (like 8 piece or 12 piece buckets plus all the sides) that came with a megajug (half a gallon) and eat all that food and drink the entire thing. They'd then complain about being unable to get a refill as the megajug was specifically designed with an unopenable lid that had a handle built in as well as a spout so that people could pour it into smaller cups at home because there's no conceivable reason one individual would ever need half a gallon AND need to refill it at some point during dinner. Alas, Ms. "450 pounds" would bitch to me about it as if I designed the cup myself.

I hate being looked at like an alien when I order water with meals. I have always ordered water (or later in life, beer) with meals. To me, pop ruins the flavor of the food. I've noticed that its generally older members of the underclass with Appalachian or Southern roots that are the most disgusted by the idea of someone drinking water.

 

Really? Well I guess that would be because the server would prefer if you got a $2.50 Coke, as it instantly adds 50 cents more to their tip.

 

 

I experience this mostly at fast food restaurants.

 

Maybe you look like you're about to steal Pepsi.

 

I could always hear when my customers were stealing pepsi after asking for a water cup. They ask you for water and then 5 seconds later you hear the co2 tank making that high pitched, busted tire noise. I loved calling people out on it and embarassing them, even though it literally only costed us 3 cents. Haha.

 

 

 

In most of the places where it seems to be a real problem they give you some kind of goofy cup like a tiny one or one that is clear. Or they pour water behind the counter. The North Canal Winchester McDs gives you a clear cup whereas it's open season at the new South Canal one. I'm pretty sure they're both owned by the same people, even.

 

Right! I hate those cups. Aside from the fact that I'm going to want more water than that, they're the same cups they hand you to give a urine sample. Those cups creep me out.

Anyone consuming more calories than they burn will gain weight, whether that's fruit, veggies or candy bars and sodas. The reason we're hungry in the first place is because our bodies are crying out for nutrition and when we feed it McDonald's, Snickers bars, or other low-nutritious, processed foods it never feels full. Even consuming small amounts of fruits, vegetables, high-grain granola or nuts we will fill full quickly because it is getting what it needs to power you through your day. We are supposed to feel awake and energetic after eating, now our culture feels tired and sluggish.

 

Correct.  People on their couches are compelled to eat and eat because the body is never getting the core nutrients that it actually needs.  If you eat an array of fruits and vegetables for breakfast, your body doesn't spend the whole day seeking out those nutrients even if you go to McDonald's for lunch and dinner.  Unfortunately traditional American breakfast foods like cereal w/milk and sausage links don't get the job done.

 

 

This is why the profits of energy drinks and coffee/caffeine industry have soared.

 

Go to any gas station and they're selling a wall of energy drinks.  It's disgusting.  Again, people are simply chasing the vitamins, etc., you can only get from fruit and especially vegetables with caffeine and sugar. 

 

 

 

The problem with society is just a basic lack of understanding & knowledge. We don't understand why we're hungry and we don't understand what's in food and the long-term affects of eating certain ingredients. Everyone has a smartphone, but we're too lazy to just quickly google something while we're grocery shopping?!

 

All those people on The Biggest Loser experience dramatic body transformations in large part because of the change in diet...the exercise is important but probably less so than eating real food instead of junk.  I don't get how those people fall back into eating crap food to the exclusion of all vegetables after finally, for once, getting in great shape and feeling great. 

 

There are all of these "reports" out there blaming the weight regains on the "producers", with the insinuation that the level of fitness the people achieved on the show are unsustainable.  Obviously nobody with a job and a family has the time to train 20 hours a week but everyone can eat at least one healthy meal per day and never buy couch food again. 

 

 

^Actually most scientific studies of weight loss find that people regain weight not because they revert back to old habits, but rather because their body sees the act of losing weight as a hazard to its own health after being so used to consuming extreme amounts of calories and as a result goes into a near endless fasting mode where you don't need anywhere near a normal person's level of calories to survive. The problem is that this doesn't go away once in shape. The body remains at a super low BMR for years, even decades, after losing weight meaning the moment you stop exercising like crazy you almost always gain the weight back even if you're eating healthy.

 

They found that a lot of the people who underwent extreme weight loss wound up with a BMR as much as 1/3 lower than their peers purely as a result of their body having adapted and gotten used to extreme caloric intake prior. This means that they have to eat less than a person who never was overweight and in a lot of cases this amount of food is physically not enough to actually fill your stomach which leads to the feeling of hunger even when your body doesn't actually want anything.

 

There's more to it than just, "they sat back down and ate chips again."

There's more to it than just, "they sat back down and ate chips again."

 

That would be me....the eating chips part.

There's no way to win once you've been fat. That's why when kids hit middle school and all they can think about is food and video games you have to intercept it there.

 

He's setting aside the money he's saving on "traditional" wings to spend it on police and fire... also the neighborhoods.

 

He's setting aside the money he's saving on "traditional" wings to spend it on police and fire... also the neighborhoods.

 

Republicans trusted Cranley because he's got a little bit of weight on him.  Obama and his family were way too thin to be trusted. 

 

 

^"They're probably on drugs!"

There's no way to win once you've been fat. That's why when kids hit middle school and all they can think about is food and video games you have to intercept it there.

 

I lost 75 pounds in college and the only reason I've kept it off is because of two primary things. 1) I walk a lot and 2) I don't drink.

 

If I drank I'd be gigantic again. I don't eat much and what I do is (usually) healthy and low in calories but it doesn't matter. I have essentially zero leeway when it comes to caloric intake. Which sucks but it is what it is.

Sugar drinks and "empty" carbs are the Devil....the sweet sweet Devil.

 

I've had good results going low carb on stints when I'm not getting enough exercise. You've got to be very strict though, no cheating. I actually gotten my cholesterol (and excess body fat) under control by eating bacon, steak, rotisserie chicken, eggs, mayonnaise, olive oil, etc.

 

   

 

There's no way to win once you've been fat. That's why when kids hit middle school and all they can think about is food and video games you have to intercept it there.

 

I lost 75 pounds in college and the only reason I've kept it off is because of two primary things. 1) I walk a lot and 2) I don't drink.

 

If I drank I'd be gigantic again. I don't eat much and what I do is (usually) healthy and low in calories but it doesn't matter. I have essentially zero leeway when it comes to caloric intake. Which sucks but it is what it is.

 

It's amazing how something as simple as walking can have such a profound effect on weight management. I've never been much of a gym-goer so my primary exercise has usually been going for walks or bike rides for an hour or so, and when it's cold and dark in the winter I definitely feel more slugglish and "blah" just because I'm not as regular with my outdoors regiments. I honestly don't know how people feel physically or emotionally good when they sit around during their commute, at work, and at home. But these people are often the ones who move to the suburbs because they "want to be closer to nature" and then never actually go out in it - I've been outside way more since living in urban neighborhoods than I ever was living out in exurban Cleveland sprawl.

Same. I'll get on the subway and just go somewhere I've never been and walk around for hours on the weekends. I don't get to walk as much during the week as I'd like as a result of working long hours, but even just walking to and from the train, to the park when it's nice out to eat lunch, to jobsites, etc. I usually average around 2.5 miles on a typical weekday. If I meet up with people, go to an event, etc. that increases. On weekends I usually wind up walking around 5-8 miles a day depending on what I'm doing. I've had quite a few months walking over 100 miles which helps offset the days I let myself indulge.

 

I hate the gym so walking is basically how it's going to happen. I can't sit in a room and work out. But I also really can't stand jogging. And riding a bike here is a death wish. So my options of exercise that I enjoy are limited haha. But thankfully that's not an issue when you live in a city and walking is just a part of daily life.

So this minor youtube celebrity is big into green smoothies and juicing.  Looks like she's all about the local farmer's market, yoga, signing petitions, and the rest:

 

WRONG! She's actually into Trump, guns, and conspiracy theories: