Wow. That's pretty cool. I'd probably disagree with her regarding a lot of political / Trump issues but she's obviously someone who has delved deep into everything and at least thinks for herself.

Here's a tip for men that someone gave me a few years ago.  Men often mistake thirst for hunger.  When you have a craving to eat something outside of your regular meals, drink a glass of water and wait 5-10 mins.  If you are still hungry, then go ahead and eat something.  But you may find that a lot of times that does the trick.

^ that's true. Also, I've found that if I have a hot drink (like a tea or coffee) it will keep my mouth occupied and eliminate what I mistook for hunger.

Sugar-free gum folks. Does wonders to restrict appetites. And you get hydrated.

Sugar-free gum folks. Does wonders to restrict appetites. And you get hydrated.

 

Agreed.  It helps me in the morning (I don't drink coffee).

Sugar-free gum folks. Does wonders to restrict appetites. And you get hydrated.

 

Agreed.  It helps me in the morning (I don't drink coffee).

 

 

What kind of weirdo doesn't drink coffee? LOL.

 

Edit: Just kidding CDM, honestly though I am sitting here at my desk, chewing gum with a cup of water and coffee next to me.

 

 

Here's a tip for men that someone gave me a few years ago.  Men often mistake thirst for hunger.  When you have a craving to eat something outside of your regular meals, drink a glass of water and wait 5-10 mins.  If you are still hungry, then go ahead and eat something.  But you may find that a lot of times that does the trick.

 

Also true that we lose our sense of thirst as we age. Not completely, but it diminishes. So kind of a double whammy against aging people.

A running theme in my half-dozen or so worst drinking stories was drinking early and forgetting to eat dinner.  At least for me if I start drinking beer I don't get hungry, don't eat anything until the next day at noon at the earliest, and no telling what happened. 

A running theme in my half-dozen or so worst drinking stories was drinking early and forgetting to eat dinner.  At least for me if I start drinking beer I don't get hungry, don't eat anything until the next day at noon at the earliest, and no telling what happened. 

My friends call that the "dinner-trick" .

If I drank a lot without eating dinner, I would have to take a piss every 30 mins (after 'breaking the seal') at a minimum.

Fatty-Fatty Boom-Un:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3203473/senator-john-mccain-king-jong-un-north-korea-war-crazy-fat-kid/

Trump refuses to exercise:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trump-thinks-that-exercising-too-much-uses-up-the-bodys-finite-energy/2017/05/12/bb0b9bda-365d-11e7-b4ee-434b6d506b37_story.html?utm_term=.ec5bfcf64964

We must preserve 'finite energy,' eh?  :roll:

 

He must be reversing with age as his 'finite energy' seems to be multiplying with an increased number of fat cells for energy storage.

 

Sugar-free gum folks. Does wonders to restrict appetites. And you get hydrated.

 

Agreed.  It helps me in the morning (I don't drink coffee).

 

 

What kind of weirdo doesn't drink coffee? LOL.

 

Edit: Just kidding CDM, honestly though I am sitting here at my desk, chewing gum with a cup of water and coffee next to me.

 

 

 

The best thing about brunch is that it's perfectly okay to have many cups of different liquids you're drinking from simultaneously. I.e., a coffee, a water, and a Bloody Mary.

http://time.com/4793832/the-weight-loss-trap/

 

A long (but good) read on the various paths to weight loss - and trying to keep it off.

Incentive to lose weight:  To save money, the National Health Service in the UK is refusing to pay for all surgery for obese people (Body Mass Index 30+).  The NHS is also banning surgery for smokers, the theory being that the people in both groups are deliberately destroying their health.

 

UK today, US tomorrow.

http://time.com/4793832/the-weight-loss-trap/

 

A long (but good) read on the various paths to weight loss - and trying to keep it off.

 

All of these recent articles pointing out that calories-in calories-out doesn't single-handedly control weight and health ignore that it is still the primary factor for most people.  It makes people think it's okay to pig out.  In May a bunch of food and beer was left at my house after a cookout.  It took me three weeks to eat all of the food (brats, sides, etc.) and drink all of the leftover beer.  I probably gained 2-3 pounds.  Then I lost that weight almost instantly after I finished drinking the 70-80 bottles of beer.

 

Incentive to lose weight:  To save money, the National Health Service in the UK is refusing to pay for all surgery for obese people (Body Mass Index 30+).  The NHS is also banning surgery for smokers, the theory being that the people in both groups are deliberately destroying their health.

 

UK today, US tomorrow.

 

I work in the blue collar world and while there are a ton of obese guys, I'm not confident that the skinny guys are much healthier.  We've had three heart attacks so far this year, one fatal.  The guy who died was thinner than the others but probably smoked more. 

 

Incentive to lose weight:  To save money, the National Health Service in the UK is refusing to pay for all surgery for obese people (Body Mass Index 30+).  The NHS is also banning surgery for smokers, the theory being that the people in both groups are deliberately destroying their health.

 

UK today, US tomorrow.

 

This is way more complex than presented here. It only involves non-life threatening knee and hip surgeries which are deferred for up to year. It only has been advised in certain places in the north of England where there have been several junior doctor strikes over low pay. In fact it's more of a statement on the problems within the UK NHS than about people with a BMI over 30.

 

http://time.com/4793832/the-weight-loss-trap/

 

A long (but good) read on the various paths to weight loss - and trying to keep it off.

 

All of these recent articles pointing out that calories-in calories-out doesn't single-handedly control weight and health ignore that it is still the primary factor for most people.  It makes people think it's okay to pig out.  In May a bunch of food and beer was left at my house after a cookout.  It took me three weeks to eat all of the food (brats, sides, etc.) and drink all of the leftover beer.  I probably gained 2-3 pounds.  Then I lost that weight almost instantly after I finished drinking the 70-80 bottles of beer.

 

Incentive to lose weight:  To save money, the National Health Service in the UK is refusing to pay for all surgery for obese people (Body Mass Index 30+).  The NHS is also banning surgery for smokers, the theory being that the people in both groups are deliberately destroying their health.

 

UK today, US tomorrow.

 

I work in the blue collar world and while there are a ton of obese guys, I'm not confident that the skinny guys are much healthier.  We've had three heart attacks so far this year, one fatal.  The guy who died was thinner than the others but probably smoked more. 

 

 

I have a BMI of 30.5. I have tree trunks for legs from doing lifting jobs in college and through other parts of my twenties. My doc says I could use to lose 30 pounds but if I were at the ideaI BMI weight I would lose way too much healthy muscle mass. I'm 44 and my heart is fine, BP is normal, no diabetes. Doc says people are taking the BMI cut-offs too strictly.  We all have different body shapes and metabolisms. Some in medicine understand the environmental differences when it comes to IQ but when dealing with the BMI they pretend humans come off a single assembly line.

Incentive to lose weight:  To save money, the National Health Service in the UK is refusing to pay for all surgery for obese people (Body Mass Index 30+).  The NHS is also banning surgery for smokers, the theory being that the people in both groups are deliberately destroying their health.

 

UK today, US tomorrow.

 

This is way more complex than presented here. It only involves non-life threatening knee and hip surgeries which are deferred for up to year. It only has been advised in certain places in the north of England where there have been several junior doctor strikes over low pay. In fact it's more of a statement on the problems within the UK NHS than about people with a BMI over 30.

 

 

It's more than that - Croydon, for example, where the ban was lately imposed, is a London suburb. The issue in the UK, however, is more one of the unaffordability of universal healthcare rather than singling out obesity as a target.

If only the need for profit was added...

If only the need for profit was added...

Yes, if only the U.K. and Canada would finally privatize their health care they could lower their life expectancies and number of insured to US standards.

If only the need for profit was added...

Yes, if only the U.K. and Canada would finally privatize their health care they could lower their life expectancies and number of insured to US standards.

Forgot this thread is about fat shaming in general. Actual facts about this specific situation be damned! Carry on. ;)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-cook-county-law-enforcement-layoffs-met-20170714-story.html

 

Soda tax delay leads Cook County to lay off more than 300 workers

 

The outcry of this soda tax was/is insane. People screaming from the rafters that it's a racist law, that it's government overreach, that it affects the poor unfairly, that it doesn't affect behavior, yadda yada. Well, the tax has been put in the pastures for now. Huzzah.