I'm not that up on road bikes. So your bike is made by "Feit"? That just means "bike".

56 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

I'm not that up on road bikes. So your bike is made by "Feit"? That just means "bike".

 

No, it's somebody's last name, Felt.  It's an American brand but of course the bikes and components are all made in Taiwan.  The only large U.S. bike manufacturer that actually builds bike frames here is Trek (just outside Madison, WI), and they only produce their hi-end models there.  They also have a custom shop sort of like the Gibson or Fender custom shop.  The components of course all are made in Taiwan. 

 

https://feltbicycles.com

 

The bike is really, really comfortable.  It has a slightly relaxed geometry so it's at least 1mph slower than race bikes but it doesn't have the low stem "slammed" geometry of a race bike.  It's really easy to maintain 16-18mph on it for 2-3 hours.  I can do 30mph on level pavement for 2-3 minutes, which causes the top gear to spin out (because it has a "compact crank", which let's everyone know you're AN AMATEUR), and in my opinion is more fun than doing the same speed (or faster) while coasting downhill. 

 

The pro riders have a much tougher high gear (like 3 more teeth on the crank) and they can do 40+mph on level ground in that gear.  They basically can never spin out with that top gear unless they're doing 60mph coming down out of the Alps. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, GCrites80s said:

up on road bikes

 

Also, there is a high-end manufacturer of bicycle components in Indianapolis called Zipp:

https://www.sram.com/en/zipp

 

They're best-known for making $1,000-2,000 carbon wheels.  Yes, there are a lot of people riding on $4,000 worth of wheels. 

 

Obviously carbon wheels were first applied to road bikes but in the 2010s they became huge for mountain biking also.  People are using them for gravel, too. 

 

 

There are 2 street in my neighborhood scheduled to be resurfaced this cycle that are also on the bike plan. I know it won't work but any suggestions of who to harass at the City to get them to actually put in the bike lanes? I'm not sure of any members of council who seem all that pro-bike lane

Not sure if you will get a response, but the bike program contact form is here: https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/bikes/contact-us/

On 9/1/2020 at 4:16 PM, Dev said:

There are 2 street in my neighborhood scheduled to be resurfaced this cycle that are also on the bike plan. I know it won't work but any suggestions of who to harass at the City to get them to actually put in the bike lanes? I'm not sure of any members of council who seem all that pro-bike lane

Which streets? Email Jeff Pastor. He just put out a motion to have DOTE study a road diet for Linn. 

Cincinnati City Council explores building city’s second, protected bike lane

 

 

Cincinnati City Council has approved a motion asking the administration to report on the feasibility of building a temporary, two-way protected bike lane along Clifton Avenue in Clifton and Corryville.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/09/21/council-vetting-plans-for-bike-lane.html

1) Clifton Avenue doesn't go anywhere near Corryville, and 2) temporary? Just build it and people will forget it was never there in the span of a week. 

It's so damn easy to ride on Clifton as-is.  

 

 

Spend the money paying people ride the bikes for all of these people who can't negotiate Clifton Ave.  

This just shows how much effort it takes to get anything bike-related in this city. They got letters of support from Clifton, CUF, and Parks, and it's not even permanent. The stated goal was to try as a "pilot" until ~November to measure and then consider permanence, which also seems to have support - Young stated so clearly in committee, and the video cut out from full council but voted unanimously and I'm glad Chris Wetterich was at least able to get quotes from Cranley. 

 

A two-way protected lane isn't designed for experienced riders on this stretch, so I don't agree with the cynicism - nor Cranley's stated need for more expensive build-out. Ironic seeing him propose over-engineering when criticizing the exact same thing about the Walnut Hills two-way project. 

If you're going to engage Cranley on bikes, do something that is actually useful.  None of these people actually ride bikes.  If they did they'd know where the trouble spots are.  Clifton Ave. between Hughes and Skyline is not one of them.  North of Ludlow would benefit much more from improvements, and biking on Clifton downhill or uphill between Lafayette and Kroger is a little hairy.  

 

But hey, I actually ride a bike, so I don't know anything.  

 

That's my point, though - you wouldn't be the demographic of this. You and other experienced riders can continue to ride up/down Clifton in mixed traffic as you already are, no harm no foul, and can save your advocacy for the tougher stretches when there's another mayor. The demographic of this would primarily seem to be leisure between places like Nippert or Burnett Woods and the Ludlow business district, a continuation of the current shared-use path, or students taking casual 1-3 mile trips - which is why they proposed the east side of Clifton. 

It's not true that bicyclists are always allowed to ride outside bike lanes where lanes exist...the wild popularity of this nearly 10 year-old video doesn't seem to have dented the sentiment:

 

Frankly, I can't think of a single bike lane I've ridden anywhere in the country that I'd consider a significant improvement over what existed previously.  Overwhelmingly, they're built on streets that didn't need a bike lane, not the ones that do.  It's like light rail built on a freight ROW that doesn't hit any population centers - not particularly useful, but you get to say you've got a light rail system. 

 

 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

Frankly, I can't think of a single bike lane I've ridden anywhere in the country that I'd consider a significant improvement over what existed previously.

 

Madison Road. 

11 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

It's not true that bicyclists are always allowed to ride outside bike lanes where lanes exist...the wild popularity of this nearly 10 year-old video doesn't seem to have dented the sentiment:

Overwhelmingly, they're built on streets that didn't need a bike lane, not the ones that do. 

You could cite a random 10 year old video from not-Cincinnati or you could cite the city Page that says:

 

"Does a cyclist have to ride in a bike lane if one is present? NO."

 

I agree with your latter point that it's usually where they are least needed, especially in Cincinnati, but for some reason bike lanes become this pissing match where experienced cyclists hate bike lanes but then act surprised that more casual families don't just jump from their weekend rides on the LMST to riding through the city for everyday trips or using on-road infrastructure to get to those longer paths. Protected infrastructure, even short stretches like this, is much better than the usual paint (or nothing at all?) for more casual riders. Just like transit, there should be different infrastructure for different types of trips and needs. 

1 hour ago, shawk said:

You could cite a random 10 year old video

 

It has 26 million views. 

 

I have biked in a lot of U.S. cities and Cincinnati is, by far, one of the easiest to bike in. There are very, very few dangerous spots anywhere in the city.  The streets are just plain fun to ride...lots of different types of riding on a ride of any length.  The prevailing speed of vehicular traffic in Cincinnati is slow and most intersections are very easy to understand, even though many of them have odd configurations. 

 

Probably the most dangerous single city road I have ever biked is Sunset Blvd in Los Angeles between UCLA and Pacific Palisades.  It's...actually insane.  And getting a bike lane installed for those 2-3 miles would be incredibly useful.  Instead they're striping random residential streets throughout the LA basin, which is already easy as hell to ride. 

 

Closer to home, Nashville and Knoxville are absolutely terrible biking cities.  Atlanta is also terrible.  Detroit is awesome.  New Orleans is awesome.  There is virtually zero bike infrastructure in either. 

 

The whole problem with Urbanist TwitterTM is that it's top-down, bicycle stuff included. 

Bike lanes are needed most on busy arterial streets, especially those without a lot of intersections, and ones that wind back and forth a lot like Riverside, River Road, Columbia Parkway, Central Parkway, Clifton north of Ludlow, Vine Street north of Short Vine, etc are especially dangerous for cyclists in my opinion.. Drivers have a habit of losing track of their lane and crossing over. Simply striping a bike lane does little-to-nothing. You need to actually protect the bicyclist with a curb or (actually maintained) bollards.

 

We don't really need bike lanes through downtown streets - in general. Exceptions maybe exist for roads that lead to highway on/off ramps and carry far outside of the CBD. Streets downtown are generally short blocks where you can ride with traffic. Traffic goes slow enough where you aren't as likely to be hit be traffic.

11 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

Frankly, I can't think of a single bike lane I've ridden anywhere in the country that I'd consider a significant improvement over what existed previously.

Riverside Drive. 

16 hours ago, BigDipper 80 said:

1) Clifton Avenue doesn't go anywhere near Corryville, and 2) temporary? Just build it and people will forget it was never there in the span of a week. 

 

I tweeted at Wetterich and he has updated the article to now be more accurate and helpful:

 

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Cincinnati City Council has approved a motion asking the administration to report on the feasibility of building a temporary, two-way protected bike lane along Clifton Avenue near the University of Cincinnati.

 

15 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

If you're going to engage Cranley on bikes, do something that is actually useful.  None of these people actually ride bikes.  If they did they'd know where the trouble spots are.  Clifton Ave. between Hughes and Skyline is not one of them.  North of Ludlow would benefit much more from improvements, and biking on Clifton downhill or uphill between Lafayette and Kroger is a little hairy.  

 

But hey, I actually ride a bike, so I don't know anything.  

 

 

This isn't for you. You're a MAMIL. Middle Aged Man in Lycra. This is to entice more casual riders and get people out of their cars. Most people would never EVER consider biking on Clifton as it exists. But a two-way protected bike lane gets them there. Where I used to live in Philly, there are bike lanes on all the major arteries. My wife would grab a bikeshare bike with me all the time when we were going out. It was easy and fun. She has never ridden a bike on the street in all the time we've lived in Cincinnati. Not coincidentally, Philly consistently ranks near the top for bike commuters per capita.

1 hour ago, jwulsin said:

Riverside Drive. 

 

Eastern and Madison were already pretty much the easiest roads to ride in the entire city.  The lanes of course present the illusion of safety but actually lead to new conflicts because a biker assumes that people pulling in and out of driveways are "looking" for bikes (Delta Ave. is especially bad for this).    

 

What people who don't bike don't get is that you have to change what you're doing all of the time.  Every 10 pedal strokes you're into a completely different strategy.  Bike lanes squash that.  You are no longer able to smoothly deflect to the left or right when somebody's dog veers into the lane or there's a screwdriver in the lane or a delivery man crosses it or whatever (which happens ALL of the time).  

 

What's more, the most dangerous thing about bike lanes is...other bikers.  Everybody cruises at a different speed when they aren't acting erratically.  Everybody gets pissed at each other really quickly.  It sucks.  

20 minutes ago, DEPACincy said:

 

Most people would never EVER consider biking on Clifton as it exists.

 

So they're going to drive their bike to Clifton Ave., ride to the end of the bike lane, then turn around and come back?

 

To actually go somewhere for real transportation they're going to have to - gasp - leave the "safety" of the bike lane.  

 

What all of this does is it puts the blame on somebody not taking up biking on somebody else.  It's up to you to get an appropriate and properly-fitted bike, it's up to you to wear real shoes instead of flip-flops while biking, it's up to you to build up bike handling skills.  If we started people off on mountain bikes down at Devou or out at Mitchell Memorial people would realize what a piece of cake riding in the city is.  

 

But the finger-waggers don't really want to bike.  They want to say they do.  They want to take a me-too Instagram selfie.  They want a trophy for putting in no work.  

 

 

9 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

Eastern and Madison were already pretty much the easiest roads to ride in the entire city.  The lanes of course present the illusion of safety but actually lead to new conflicts because a biker assumes that people pulling in and out of driveways are "looking" for bikes (Delta Ave. is especially bad for this).    

 

What people who don't bike don't get is that you have to change what you're doing all of the time.  Every 10 pedal strokes you're into a completely different strategy.  Bike lanes squash that.  You are no longer able to smoothly deflect to the left or right when somebody's dog veers into the lane or there's a screwdriver in the lane or a delivery man crosses it or whatever (which happens ALL of the time).  

 

What's more, the most dangerous thing about bike lanes is...other bikers.  Everybody cruises at a different speed when they aren't acting erratically.  Everybody gets pissed at each other really quickly.  It sucks.  

 

Do you distinguish between striped bike lanes and protected bike lanes?  It seems to me that a protected bike lane can be fantastic for the less-experienced, more timid, or elderly cyclist -- it FEELS safer, whether it actually is or not.  A striped bike lane on the street doesn't really help anyone -- BUT -- it's a huge reminder to drivers "oh, there are cyclists here" and if we can't fit a separated bike lane in, a painted bike line at least provides that marketing function and could increase public awareness of cyclists until a separated bike lane could be provided.  But for the experienced cyclist, fast commuter, etc., a wider street and more frequent street-cleaning would be far better than a bike lane. 

 

I'm interested in hearing your thoughts as an experienced cyclist.

36 minutes ago, Foraker said:

I'm interested in hearing your thoughts as an experienced cyclist.

 

Read back through the history of this thread and you'll see him rehash the same "vehicular cycling is the only true way" and "X road is super easy to ride on we don't need bike infrastructure" arguments over and over while everyone else points out that if that were the case then why are only low single-digit percentages of people riding here versus places that have decent bike infrastructure, etc.  It repeats every couple of years. 

59 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

So they're going to drive their bike to Clifton Ave., ride to the end of the bike lane, then turn around and come back?

 

To actually go somewhere for real transportation they're going to have to - gasp - leave the "safety" of the bike lane.  

 

What all of this does is it puts the blame on somebody not taking up biking on somebody else.  It's up to you to get an appropriate and properly-fitted bike, it's up to you to wear real shoes instead of flip-flops while biking, it's up to you to build up bike handling skills.  If we started people off on mountain bikes down at Devou or out at Mitchell Memorial people would realize what a piece of cake riding in the city is.  

 

But the finger-waggers don't really want to bike.  They want to say they do.  They want to take a me-too Instagram selfie.  They want a trophy for putting in no work.  

 

 

 

No. Tons of people live in Clifton Heights and could bike from their house to Clifton Gaslight and vice versa. And then, I know this is crazy, but you build more protected bike lanes. If they added a protected bike lane on Ludlow my wife could bike from our house to UC and Clifton Heights. That's the whole point. You build a whole network, like Philadelphia, but you have to start somewhere. Rome wasn't built in a day. 

 

I don't want to put the onus on everyone to take up biking as a serious hobby. That's not the point. The point is to make it easy for bikes to supplant short auto trips for everyone! That's what happens in cities that invest in this stuff. You can take the whole of the data and see that clearly, or you can bitch and complain about people who aren't as serious as you about biking. I think you'd rather scream at the clouds than see things improve. 

Edited September 22, 20204 yr by DEPACincy

1 hour ago, Foraker said:

 

Do you distinguish between striped bike lanes and protected bike lanes?  It seems to me that a protected bike lane can be fantastic for the less-experienced, more timid, or elderly cyclist -- it FEELS safer, whether it actually is or not.  

 

I think there are some situations where the fully protected bike lane (and I don't mean just a berm or jersey barrier) along one side of a roadway works pretty well, like the West Side path in Manhattan.  The big difference between that bike path and basically anything that might be built in Cincinnati is that there aren't regular driveway entrances along the shoreline (the northern half of Central Parkway is an exception) and there is relatively little pedestrian crossing of the bike path (unlike bike lanes in any downtown or typical neighborhood).  

 

Overall I really dislike any bike lane that is up against a curb since the sudden need to veer to the right means you're striking the curb and possibly flying over the bars.   It's rare in the United States but occasionally you see footage of a bike line in the center of a 2-way street, which I've always known to be the much safer way of doing things.  As the biker you come to the center of every cross street and have full visibility of the situation rather than being forced into the corner, up against the tooth-removing curb.  

 

In New Orleans it's very common to see people biking and jogging between the St. Charles streetcar tracks.  The grass is worn because several people do it every hour.  The streetcars come along every few minutes but you can hear them so people get out of the way.  When you get to an intersection you can easily take in everything that is going on and you enter the intersection from the best position.  

 

I just looked at the streetview and am shocked to see that they added typical bike lanes to...once again...a street that absolutely didn't need them.  https://www.google.com/maps/@29.9266003,-90.1008097,3a,75y,262.48h,82.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbuiY9SfhOWdwxT5pcj9GfQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, DEPACincy said:

I don't want to put the onus on everyone to take up biking as a serious hobby. That's not the point. 

 

Not everyone is cut out to ride bikes in the city.  If you ride on the Loveland bike trail you will see just how bad a huge percentage of people are at riding bikes.  You know how you walk down the sidewalk and sometimes someone in front of you just...stops?  Now put that person on a bike.  They do the same crap.  They stop for no reason, they turn without looking, they mindlessly drift from left to right.   

 

You know how some people drop their cell phone several times a day?  Now put that clown on a bike.  It's going to be ugly.  

Or people zig-zagging around like crackheads at 1.5 mph

I rarely ride my bike. Like 1-2 times a month during the spring/summer/fall. I'm pretty close to "clown on a bike" territory.

 

That said, my house was halfway up the hill on Clifton Avenue and I'd ride to Ludlow Avenue without any problems. These lanes do seem a little unnecessary. Streets like Taft and McMillan are the ones that could use bike lanes. Getting from CUF to Walnut Hills was a pain because of the traffic on those streets.

 

And of course, if there were something that would just carry my bike up Ravine Street for me, I'd have ridden more often.

 

Red Bike opens share station on Lunken Airport Bike Trail

 

 

Cincinnati’s nonprofit bike sharing program has add its latest share station, its first outside the urban core.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/09/26/red-bike-opens-first-share-station-outside-urban.html

Blue Ash bike share has shut down:

 

https://www.blueash.com/how_do_i_(faq)/rent_a_zagster_bicycle.php
 

I very rarely saw anyone riding these bikes. In my opinion there was a huge missed opportunity with Blue Ash not choosing Red Bike. Having the same system both downtown and in Blue Ash would have been a selling point for memberships I think, and perhaps would have increased system ridership in Blue Ash.

On 9/27/2020 at 12:11 AM, ColDayMan said:

Red Bike opens share station on Lunken Airport Bike Trail

 

 

Cincinnati’s nonprofit bike sharing program has add its latest share station, its first outside the urban core.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/09/26/red-bike-opens-first-share-station-outside-urban.html

This is a great idea, I bet yearly membership could be increased by having more stations around the metro even if they have little interaction with the rest of the network in the urban core. Such as at City and Hamilton County parks or along Wasson Way and other bike trails. It’s a selling point: not only can I use these bikes downtown but I can use them at all these other places to, even if I’m not in any one location often.

Edited October 3, 20204 yr by thebillshark

Well-known local attorney Steven R. Adams was killed Sunday morning on his bike:

https://www.wlwt.com/article/prominent-cincinnati-attorney-dies-after-hit-and-run-crash-on-eastern-avenue/34545398

7 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

Well-known local attorney Steven R. Adams was killed Sunday morning on his bike:

https://www.wlwt.com/article/prominent-cincinnati-attorney-dies-after-hit-and-run-crash-on-eastern-avenue/34545398

Horrific, especially that the driver just drove away. We need properly-designed roads and bike infrastructure in this city. 

I rode the new Ohio River trail extension on Sunday for the first time since May.  I assumed that it would be done by now but there are still about ten short gravel gaps in the shared-use path.  

 

This path is going to be really nice for getting through the hairy section of Kellog near California Woods and the Waterworks.  It closes the link between Lunken Airport and the part of the trail that was built about ten years ago near Coney Island.  

 

That said, it still don't lead anywhere, since the trail dead-ends right where 52 becomes a divided four-lane highway.  I am aware that a lot of road cyclists ride on the berm past that point but I've never done it and several people have been hit and killed in that area by heroin people.  You can see on google earth that the remnants of Old 52 could form a pretty nice route if the missing pieces are connected by new bike paths.  I haven't ridden past New Richmond but I imagine that the riding is okay past that point since 52 becomes a normal road east of that point.  

^heroin people and smartphones have decimated interest in street motorcycling. The virus helped it come back somewhat, but it's kind of an odd thing that it's only urban "gangs", Harley guys and a few Grom folk out now as compared to only 10 years ago. And in Columbus the urban riders hung it up in the past 10 years too. It's like the minute you get into an area rural enough where there aren't a million cagers looking at their phones out come the junkies.

 

Dirt bikes on the other hand are hotter than they've been since the late '90s. You can barely even buy one because of the virus. The only ones for sale on Craigslist are minibikes that their riders have outgrown.

^Gravel riding has experienced a meteoric ride over the past 3-4 years.  I'm not sure that I ever saw a gravel bike until 2015 and now the majority of the bikes in many bike shops are gravel bikes.  One of the main attractions is getting away from increasingly dangerous roadways.  Also, mountain biking is insane and some older riders give it up after cracking their ribs and collarbone for the fifth time. 

 

The main problem with gravel riding is the lack of gravel roads in much of the United States.  People have to drive 90 minutes or more out of town to get to an area with a good network of gravel/fire roads. 

Pickaway County, despite being rural and not exactly flush with cash ever, instituted a gravel ban by the early '80s when a road called Wheeler Road was the 2nd to last gravel road in the county to be paved. The final gravel stretch was on Shoemaker Road and was paved around Y2K. That gravel portion was less than a mile long. The traffic volume on them is negligible. As far as I know there are no gravel roads in Fairfield County until you are on the other side of Lancaster from Columbus.

 

Meanwhile in West Virginia I remember having a view of Huntington Mall from a dirt road that had tree falls on it that nobody bothered to clean up. Had to wheelie over them on my KLR 650. This Ohioan was flabbergasted.

Rural Indiana was nothing but gravel roads when I was a kid.  It was super-loud and super-dusty gravel that rolled all over the place.  Indiana could have been the Midwest's gravel racing hub but everything got paved in the 90s with the riverboat casino money. 

 

There is still a gravel road on the west side, Hermes in White Oak:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2117424,-84.6008686,3a,75y,91.85h,83.43t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srfZlI3w7gZbhLz49S2_sSw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DrfZlI3w7gZbhLz49S2_sSw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D83.72639%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

 

It was kept gravel in order to avoid turning the Y-intersection into a 4-way with the characteristics of a 5-way intersection that is missing a street. 

I was wondering if Hamilton County had any gravel roads left -- I assumed not. But if there were any I figured it would be on the west side.

I grew up on gravel roads in Western Indiana, but I just heard from my dad that his road is being paved. I thought that road would never be paved.   

 

Here in NW Ohio there are almost no gravel roads. The very few remaining close when it's too wet, about half the year. 

 

There are surprising number of gravel roads in SE Michigan, including some between Ann Arbor and Novi toward Detroit, around Pinckney area and Jackson; I don't know other parts of the state as well. I also learned recently that travelling on the dirt (not gravel) roads in the UP is restricted in March and April because of mud. The trucks tear up the roads when they're that wet. 

 

Edited November 10, 20204 yr by westerninterloper

1 hour ago, GCrites80s said:

I was wondering if Hamilton County had any gravel roads left -- I assumed not. But if there were any I figured it would be on the west side.

 

There is one on the east side (Hyde Park, no less!) but it's not really open:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1265602,-84.4626381,3a,75y,8.88h,94.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-pcNaU9jRPBNHRqjeR-CSA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

8 hours ago, westerninterloper said:

There are surprising number of gravel roads in SE Michigan, including some between Ann Arbor and Novi toward Detroit, around Pinckney area and Jackson; I don't know other parts of the state as well. I also learned recently that travelling on the dirt (not gravel) roads in the UP is restricted in March and April because of mud. The trucks tear up the roads when they're that wet. 

 

 

Metro Detroit has hundreds of dirt roads.  Even in its most wealthy city, Bloomfield Hills.

 

https://goo.gl/maps/Fnhvrwa6foDDfRKj8

Tri-State Trails is asking for feedback to create a new regional bike map and they want to make sure that the new one will be suitable for people of all skill levels.
 

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Far too often, we hear from would-be riders that they’re scared to ride their bike in traffic, or that they don’t know what streets to ride on. We don’t just want feedback from die-hard bicyclists, although their expertise will certainly help shape routes we showcase in this map. We really want to hear from people who enjoy biking for recreation and might consider biking for transportation if they felt safer. You shouldn’t need to feel like you’re taking your life into your own hands when you get on a bike. While we have a lot of work to do to connect our biking infrastructure in the region, there are plenty of routes that you can choose to enjoy a more comfortable bike ride. - Wade Johnston, Director

The survey is located on a Google Form on their announcement page: Tri-State Trails - It’s time for a new bike map

They also posted a summary of their quarterly meeting with many updates on infrastructure around the region including the CROWN network: Tri-State Trails and partners showcase new trail progress across the region

This seems very fast. They got $50k, design documents, and equipment already?

Great Parks of Hamilton County: Glenwood Gardens to Winton Woods Trail virtual public meeting

 

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The new trail will extend the West Fork Mill Creek Greenway Trail that currently travels through Wyoming, Woodlawn and Glenwood Gardens to connect with the Harbor Loop Trail in Winton Woods. The trail will link other trails, neighborhoods, parks, shopping, schools and community resources from Springfield Township and Greenhills to Woodlawn and Wyoming.

 

Once the trail is complete, the trail network in this area will offer more than nine miles of continuous shared-use paths built for exercise, relaxation and vehicle-free travel away from busy local roadways. Guests can choose among more routes of different lengths and more experiences that flow from gardens and prairies to forests, wetlands and lakes.

 

The Zoom meeting is on Thursday, April 1st at 6:30 pm. Registration is not necessary. They also have a trail map and regional connector map published. Final design decision to be determined later this year in the fall or winter, with an expected construction start of 2024.

 

I'll be attending the meeting, a few notes on this:

 

-2024 is the expected start for the new entrance and pedestrian improvements at Glendale-Milford Rd.  The trail is still TBD pending federal, state, and local grants.  Given the federal, and even state interest in giving trail funding, I do imagine it will win something in that time frame though.

 

-Since Cincinnati and even TriState Trails seem to have no interest in the Mill Creek Greenway, it's good to see Great Parks spearheading some activity up north.  I know OKI has the connector from the terminus of this trail to Fairfield's terminus of the Great Miami Trail on its radar for funding. 

 

-I know Wyoming has applied to extend their portion of the West Fork trail south into their business district, it's only a mile or so, but adds a nice destination on the trail itself.

 

 

This is great.