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^How so?  Does one group tweet out the movie they are going to and the other decides to show up and sit right behind them to kick their chair?  Seems like it was easier back in the day when you would just plan a fight in the parking lot behind Wendy's.  Kids make things so complicated these-a-days....

 

The rumors that the brawl last week was planned or caused by social media have been debunked, btw

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    Well if we had citizens who actually provided us with good Intel instead of always going, I didn't see anything (when I can hear you talking on the phone in the corner to your buddy about jumping said

  • AsDustinFoxWouldSay
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    Getting in a fight at a festival or causing mayhem at a festival because there is "nothing to do" when you are literally at a festival with activities is quite something.  I used to be a big skat

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    I mean let's be real, let's not act like a majority of the white people who live in Mentor didnt move there because their previous Cleveland Neighborhood or inner ring suburb was getting to diverse to

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^How so?  Does one group tweet out the movie they are going to and the other decides to show up and sit right behind them to kick their chair?  Seems like it was easier back in the day when you would just plan a fight in the parking lot behind Wendy's.  Kids make things so complicated these-a-days....

 

The rumors that the brawl last week was planned or caused by social media have been debunked, btw

 

Thats exactly how.  It's just like when we were kids, only easier.  Determining location is only a matter of keystrokes.

Not like when I was a kid.  I never planned to meet up with people who were not my friends at a movie theatre.  I can't remember theatre gatherings being a thing.... especially not theatres on the other side of town.

Maybe, but there is also Richmond, East Gate, and probably some more that are a lot closer than Valley View.  Certainly it is possible that two different set of teens from CH were sitting in the same theatre, in consecutive rows...... just not very likely.

 

Look, I was just relaying what the cop told me.  You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

 

I only brought it up because it was a personal experience I'd had with disruptive teens at the same movie theater.

 

In 2015 with social media, it is very likely....

 

It was actually about a year ago (end of 2013), and I don't think what I witnessed was coordinated at all.

^How so?  Does one group tweet out the movie they are going to and the other decides to show up and sit right behind them to kick their chair?  Seems like it was easier back in the day when you would just plan a fight in the parking lot behind Wendy's.  Kids make things so complicated these-a-days....

 

The rumors that the brawl last week was planned or caused by social media have been debunked, btw

 

Keep in mind that the most bitter of enemies have mutual friends, especially on Facebook.  Person A can be on B’s friends list but actually tight with C, while B and C hate each other.  So C knows what B has planned and/or where they are….

^^I wasn't saying I don't believe you.  I was simply noting the odd coincidence

 

^Sure.  It's just odd that a movie theatre would be the place they would plan to meet up.  You don't have to pay $11.50 to get into a fight.  You can do that for free at some park.

So the "you stepped on my Jordan's" story about how the Beachwood Mall fight started is not true.  Why do people bother making this silly nonsense up?

So what was the good reason for the fight?

(facepalm) Is there ever a good reason for getting into a fight at the mall on the holidays?  It wasn't the Jordan's.  We could toss out a few more though just for the heck of it and see how far it spreads through the keyboard crowd.  Maybe one girl was dating the other's baby daddy?  Maybe one took the last piece of gubment cheese out of the other's fridge without permission?  Maybe they both showed up to the mall rocking the same weave?

No, no there isn't ever a good reason.  It seemed to me from you post that you think there was something less stupid than "someone stepped on someone's Jordans" going on.  My guess is the real reason won't sound any better.

No, no there isn't ever a good reason.  It seemed to me from you post that you think there was something less stupid than "someone stepped on someone's Jordans" going on.  My guess is the real reason won't sound any better.

 

90% of fights among younger women seem to be over a guy.

 

They are also much much harder to break up than guy fights.  Most guys don't want to fight but won't be seen backing down unless they have an excuse, such as being separated.  Women, once they decide to fight, are relentless.

Honestly, I don't see the hand wringing about this. When I was a teenager, rivals from different schools used to congregate at a couple of different fast food restaurants on a main drag, or the bowling alley. They'd arrive after sporting events and sometimes there was grumbling and sometimes shouting. I was actually arrested for inciting a riot at the Burger King because me and another girl got into it when I asked her what she was looking at, and we took it outside and then all my friends ended up fighting all her friends. AKA a rumble, just like they had in the 50s. This is not the end of civilization or a hallmark of kids from a particular neighborhood being troublemakers, this is society continuing as it always have, if you ask me.

 

FWIW I only go to the movies a handful of times a year and often go to that cinemark and have never experienced any problems.

"Misguided youth rumbles' are not as scary as 'thugs riots'

 

No, no there isn't ever a good reason.  It seemed to me from you post that you think there was something less stupid than "someone stepped on someone's Jordans" going on.  My guess is the real reason won't sound any better.

 

Just about anything sounds better than some random people getting into a fight because one scuffed the others Jordan's

Honestly, I don't see the hand wringing about this. When I was a teenager, rivals from different schools used to congregate at a couple of different fast food restaurants on a main drag, or the bowling alley. They'd arrive after sporting events and sometimes there was grumbling and sometimes shouting. I was actually arrested for inciting a riot at the Burger King because me and another girl got into it when I asked her what she was looking at, and we took it outside and then all my friends ended up fighting all her friends. AKA a rumble, just like they had in the 50s. This is not the end of civilization or a hallmark of kids from a particular neighborhood being troublemakers, this is society continuing as it always have, if you ask me.

 

FWIW I only go to the movies a handful of times a year and often go to that cinemark and have never experienced any problems.

 

The badass ballet-dancing gang:

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Probably not. "The same person posted videos online of all three fights" probably just means the same person found or received the videos and posted them on their own account with whatever service they're using. You see this all the time on Youtube where someone will just republish a video, but have the social media capital or wherewithal to promote it better and have it go "viral" over the original source. Or, even if the original does make it big in viewing numbers the republished ones can skim views and revenue from the original.

Probably not. "The same person posted videos online of all three fights" probably just means the same person found or received the videos and posted them on their own account with whatever service they're using. You see this all the time on Youtube where someone will just republish a video, but have the social media capital or wherewithal to promote it better and have it go "viral" over the original source. Or, even if the original does make it big in viewing numbers the republished ones can skim views and revenue from the original.

 

That makes a lot more sense and is far less problematic.

If posting videos of 14 year old girls fighting is his thing, this guy would've loved having a feed into the security cams at my high school back in the day.

Some really bizarre crimes in Lakewood recently:

 

http://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/01/20/cleveland-man-missing-since-september-dies-after-crashing-car-on-detroit-avenue-in-lakewood-at-80-mph

 

And:

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/01/lakewood_homicide_suspect_foun.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Winter doldrums got them depressed and doing crazy stuff...

OK, what's the real reason? If someone gets that depressed by the weather, then go to a tanning spa or take a trip south before killing someone.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The link has been updating. Apparently they were business partners. The suspected shooter was found dead in a hotel room in Westlake of an apparent suicide. No explanation what they were doing on a residential street in Lakewood.

chalk linez... fitting

chalk linez... fitting

 

Cleveland.com blew up with that, but it's not what it means.  Even I knew that (yeow).

 

They are now saying that Shine was after one person in particular, I wonder if he's somehow connected to Ware.

Hmm, Cleveland.com's vendetta against Cleveland Heights must be over if they buried an armed robbery on Coventry in the police blotter:

 

Aggravated Robbery, Coventry Road: At 2:45 a.m. on Feb. 9, two women leaving Bodega were robbed by a man who got into their car with a gun and told them to give him their money and phones.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/cleveland-heights/index.ssf/2015/02/man_robs_women_at_gunpoint_for.html#incart_related_stories

^Ferrise is now covering the Akron area for NEOMG

^So true- I had definitely noticed the big uptick in Akron crime reporting making it to the front [web] page.  NEOMG is a very strange animal.

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Honestly, I don't see the hand wringing about this. When I was a teenager, rivals from different schools used to congregate at a couple of different fast food restaurants on a main drag, or the bowling alley. They'd arrive after sporting events and sometimes there was grumbling and sometimes shouting. I was actually arrested for inciting a riot at the Burger King because me and another girl got into it when I asked her what she was looking at, and we took it outside and then all my friends ended up fighting all her friends. AKA a rumble, just like they had in the 50s. This is not the end of civilization or a hallmark of kids from a particular neighborhood being troublemakers, this is society continuing as it always have, if you ask me.

 

FWIW I only go to the movies a handful of times a year and often go to that cinemark and have never experienced any problems.

 

It's not a big deal until black kids do it, and then it's "Oh noeeeeeees!"

^Kind of an odd post to "like"....

^Kind of an odd post to "like"....

 

Yes.  Yes it is.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4xg6WeB8_A

As if Chuck E Cheese wasn't hell enough.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

okay, I had nothing to do with this. Why would I want to bomb my beloved alma mater? :roll:

 

All Painesville City Schools closed after suspicious voice mail, phone call

 

http://fox8.com/2015/03/02/high-school-elementary-school-in-painesville-closed-others-on-lock-down-after-threat/

 

ha, I should have known the person who did the was from Painesville Township. Those kids at Riverside High School are pure evil! :evil:

 

http://www.cleveland.com/mentor/index.ssf/2015/03/police_link_teen_to_bom.html

http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/

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@HomaBash WEWS

34 people arrested in huge drug bust in Lorain County after months-long investigation. Mostly cocaine. http://t.co/HqlyFTna4w

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Some closure, if any can really be had, from this nightmare.

 

3 men in Brennan's Colony murder sentenced to life in prison, fourth sent to prison for 11 years

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Three men involved in the murder of Cleveland Heights bar owner Jim Brennan were sentenced by a Cuyahoga County judge to life in prison, and the fourth received an 11-year term on Friday.

 

All four men had pleaded guilty.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2015/03/3_men_in_brennans_colony_murde.html#incart_m-rpt-1

clevelanddotcom ‏@clevelanddotcom  5m5 minutes ago

.@ParmaPolice announce arrests in attack on @chuckecheese employees. Here is a former post on the incident: http://ow.ly/L21Qr

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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  • 4 weeks later...

FBI: Highland Heights Mafia member helped facilitate murder-for-hire plot http://t.co/6r3gTjzbyy

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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WEWS NewsChannel5 ‏@WEWS  1m1 minute ago

#BREAKING: Warrensville Hts shooting victim was brother of man shot, killed at Chalk Linez barbershop, family says.

 

Kristin Volk ‏@Kristin_Volk  7m7 minutes ago

Pic of Warrensville Heights murder victim, Aaron Ladson. Family says he was key witness to Chalk Linez shooting

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

WEWS NewsChannel5 ‏@WEWS  1m1 minute ago

#BREAKING: Warrensville Hts shooting victim was brother of man shot, killed at Chalk Linez barbershop, family says.

 

Kristin Volk ‏@Kristin_Volk  7m7 minutes ago

Pic of Warrensville Heights murder victim, Aaron Ladson. Family says he was key witness to Chalk Linez shooting

 

I was afraid of that....

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/03/cleveland_gang_connected_to_wa.html

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