March 27, 200718 yr If the pope can't get laid now with a car he's certainly not if hes zipping around on a scooter. I beg to differ. The ladies and the guys for that matter :wink: love a guy on a scooter. Very hot. Well my pattern has changed and I'm a train rider now. Unfortunately, no more ladies have been itching to sit next to me. Maybe I do need a scooter...... Actually Pope, ridership on our train line is up. So maybe you are attracting the ladies? Could it be you don't take the same train everyday so the ladies are trying to figure out what your schedule is? if things get that bad I'll hook you with my cousin. She needs a man...with a job.
March 27, 200718 yr >P.S. I noticed you revoked our friendship on facebook you assclown Did I? Well I told people not to be friends with me if I've never met them! Well maybe if you start riding over to that job I'll be friends with you. >I bet your destination on those long trips wasn't your job. Well I did do bicycle delivery for upwards of a year and since my bike's been stolen I've ridden the bus out and walked the 11 miles back from my job a few times (not in dress shoes). That takes about 31/2 hours.
March 27, 200718 yr While it's not Ohio. We had this article about those who try to use the bus system here in Baton Rouge. http://www.2theadvocate.com/features/People/6664912.html
March 27, 200718 yr Also while I'm thinking about it.... When I go to LSU's campus. I walk (because I chose to live within a 1/4 mile of the "gates" of campus and a mile from the Geography Dept) Other than going to school, 99.9% of everything else I do in BR, and beyond, I do by car.
March 27, 200718 yr >Are you sure its only 20 minutes by bike? You live by UC, right? Averaging 12mph on a bike is pretty easy, so do the math. If you sprint 4 miles you're going to show up sweaty so take it easy. I'd say at pretty much every commute distance an in-shape biker on a cyclocross or road bike is competitive time-wise with a car (and always blows away buses), I think over the entire Tour de France they average something like 33mph which is close or even higher than the average speed of commuting cars. The critical time-waster for bike commuting is having to at the very least change clothes if not take a shower, which is why many take the bus to work and ride back since so few employers have shower facilities. Obviously for certain jobs you have to look decent but considering how shabby people look in a lot of offices today due to relaxed dress codes, for a lot of jobs it's not much of an issue other than people think you're weird for not driving. Also people seem to be afraid of riding at night but once you do it it's actually kind of fun. I have been ticketed for not having a light at night and for riding the wrong way on a one-way so that stuff does happen if you ride enough. In shape, I average around 16 to 18 mph over 40 miles. For four to five miles, maybe I could average 20 mph, but I'd get to work all nasty if I did that. TDF speeds at 35 kilometers an hour (I *think* that's their speed) is just insane. If that's mph, that's just superhuman. Of course, they come down the mountains going 60+ mph, so.....
March 28, 200718 yr Actually Pope, ridership on our train line is up. So maybe you are attracting the ladies? Could it be you don't take the same train everyday so the ladies are trying to figure out what your schedule is? if things get that bad I'll hook you with my cousin. She needs a man...with a job. It must be the ladies trying to figure out my schedule, I generally have a set goal train, and I'm always one after or one before. But then again I have to drive into work every now and then due to client engagements not in the CBD.
March 28, 200718 yr Unfortunately Metro doesn't take me where I need to go on a daily basis (UC's campus). I would have to take it downtown and then transfer up to UC. This would be incredibly and just be waaay out of the way. So I currently carpool...as it is the best alternative for me right now. When/if I work downtown (for co-op) I will then take Metro to work everyday. Its unfortunate that the system doesn't reach to more places. I would love to take it, but right now it isn't beneficial for me to do so.
March 28, 200718 yr about scooters heres what I am talking about: http://www.genuinescooters.com/buddy.html I have the cream one and its great...sometimes I get 100 MPG, but usually 85-95 depending on how and where I am driving. I know there is free parking for them at csu... I am not trying to make anyone stop taking the bus, but it is waaaaay better than driving on many levels (enviromental, fun factor etc)
March 28, 200718 yr >For four to five miles, maybe I could average 20 mph, but I'd get to work all nasty if I did that. TDF speeds at 35 kilometers an hour (I *think* that's their speed) is just insane. If that's mph, that's just superhuman. Of course, they come down the mountains going 60+ mph, so..... I looked it up, we're both wrong. The average speed of the Tour is around 41kph or about 25mph. That includes those incredible mountain stages so on flat stretches the guys are definitely rolling around 30mph. I have been to some bike races and it's not too obvious to the spectator how fast those guys are. However I've ridden on various hardcore training areas, especially the Natchez Trace Parkway in Tennessee, where the incredible speed becomes obvious when you're riding a mountain bike and the guys on the cycling teams absolutely blow past you. >Unfortunately Metro doesn't take me where I need to go on a daily basis (UC's campus). I would have to take it downtown and then transfer up to UC. This would be incredibly and just be waaay out of the way. So I currently carpool...as it is the best alternative for me right now. Where the heck do you live? If you're coming from the west side, just get off on Central Parkway and walk up McMillan or Ravine, wherever's closer. I guarantee the walk will go way faster than you think it will and McMillan's not even steep. I remember you posted one time about taking the bus from UC to Union Terminal...why not just walk? According to Google Maps it's only 2.25 miles. All the distances in Cincinnati are a lot shorter than people think they are, the hills distort people's sense of how far things are there and people fear walkign up them when it's not really a big deal.
March 31, 200718 yr luckily I have a several options to get to work. I work right on the Corner of 6 Ave & 42 Street (directly accross from Bryant Park) By subway: walk to the 4/5/6 subway at 125 & Lexington walk to the 2/3 subway at 125 & Lenox total trip time to 42 street is 15-20 min walk to the 6 subway at 116 & Lexington - total trip time to 42 St. is about 30-40 minutes as the 6 is a local train. walk to the 2/3 subway at 116 & Lenox - total trip time to 42 street is 15-20 minutes By Bus: Take the M1 (the 5 Ave/Mad Ave bus) infront of my house straight to 42 Street. Althought traffic and the numerous stops makes this a horrible ride, unless its early morning or late night. Total trip time is 35 to 90 minutes My Commutter Rail: walk to 125/Park Ave and take the Metro North one stop to Grand Central. Total Trip time is 10 Min.
May 2, 200718 yr my new commute, now that the weather isn't awful is on my bike. herman -> 49th -> detroit -> bridge -> superior -> ansel -> chester -> east http://www.runningmap.com?id=12588 just a bit over 8 miles. and I only got cutoff by an oblivious driver once! the best part is, I shaved 5 minutes off the car version of this same commute, which is shoreway to mlk to museum. ha! I got up early to ride my bike across town, and I ended up a half an hour early to work. so if any of these roads are on your daily, wave to me as I hack up a lung.
May 2, 200718 yr Yeah I just found out about that, that's awesome. I've barely heard people talk about it. They really need to promote stuff like that more.
May 2, 200718 yr What's up with your tag line: Deemed Number One ***hole of the year by SORTA, The Ohio Department of Transportation, and UO forumers. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 6, 200717 yr Getting to work How four central Ohio commuters meet the challenge Monday, August 6, 2007 3:26 AM By Tim Doulin THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH The mean commuting time in Franklin County is 20.6 minutes, almost five minutes less than the national midpoint , according to the U.S. Census . Most drivers recently interviewed here agreed that commuting in central Ohio is a lot easier than in other places they've lived or visited. Here are some of their stories... [email protected] http://dispatch.com/dispatch/content/local_news/stories/2007/08/06/Commuters.ART_ART_08-06-07_A4_9M7HARN.html
August 6, 200717 yr While I lived in Akron: Get in my car and drive to Work/School, 10 minute commute (6 if I speed) Living in Greater Pittsburgh: Walk 15 minutes down the hill and catch the PG-Penn Hills/Universal Flyer at Unity-Trestle and Universal. Take the PG bus to the Wilkinsburg Station on the East Busway. Catch the East Busway-Oakland (or EBO) to Campus. Get off the bus at the Cathedral of Learning. Total time: About 1 hour, roughly the same time it would have taken to drive/park.
August 6, 200717 yr ^^What a silly article. One of the people lives on Africa Drive? Is South America Boulevard two blocks down? Pickup up the 20, 22, 25, 35, or 79 at Bridge Avenue and W25th to East 9th and Superior or Prospect. With all those choices through Ohio City, I'm never out there more than 5 minutes waiting. 8 minute commute. Nice. "He's all alone as he turns onto Westlake Lee Road and hears the welcome crunch of the Dodge Dakota's tires on the gravel of his driveway." ^What a nightmare.
August 6, 200717 yr man this is one thread I can honestly say, I feel sorry for the people that have to go out of their way to use public transportation or the horrible and long commutes. I'm blessed to have three train stations and two bus routes within spitting distance of my front door. :cool2:
August 6, 200717 yr man this is one thread I can honestly say, I feel sorry for the people that have to go out of their way to use public transportation or the horrible and long commutes. Don't feel too sorry for them...they chose to live there! ;)
August 6, 200717 yr My commute is a simple ten minute straight shot to my school(Pennsylvania College of Technology). Williamsport, at least for now anyway, does not have the need to extend its regular bus service out to where I live(they have a line to the mall and back only)...But while my car is parked at school, I will use the bus during the cold months and walk during the warmer months to get around town since bus service is free to all students, and the city is a very refreshing and nice place to walk around...
August 6, 200717 yr Getting to work How four central Ohio commuters meet the challenge Monday, August 6, 2007 3:26 AM By Tim Doulin THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH Anyone realize that the writer had to commute with these people...so that means he had to drive out to their house, then ride into work, then have someone pick him up to drive him back to their houses just for a few dumb quotes. Also, people tend to think that the traffic is "always" bad or they "always" see something wild, but in fact it's a lot rarer than they think. And the idiot driving the truck 80 miles a day...perhaps if he lived on a farm and needed to drive on gravel roads for several miles he could justify that. But with all the backlash against SUV's in recent years, most people with pickups have no good reason for owning them either.
August 6, 200717 yr But with all the backlash against SUV's in recent years, most people with pickups have no good reason for owning them either. Pickup trucks are both cheap, and they hold their value tremendously. Then considering how handy they are for hauling stuff, helping friends move, etc., there are a host of reasons for owning a pickup truck. I owned one for three or four years, and it was the cheapest wheels I ever owned, all things considered.
August 7, 200717 yr I live and die by the #5. The Central Ohio Transit Authority (more like Bus Authority) takes me to where I need to go. I give up my car during the week to someone who needs a car to do his day job out in the 'burbs. I get my own car back on Friday with a full tank of gas. Don't remember the last time I bought gas. Can't beat that.
August 12, 200717 yr Nice to see something that encourages driving less, but too bad this apparently isn't offered in Ohio. DISCOUNT PROGRAMS 2 insurers reward driving less Sunday, August 12, 2007 5:45 AM By Marshall Loeb NEW YORK -- More than 6 million people nationwide rely on public transit to get to work, which means if they own a car it spends a lot of time parked in the garage... ...Progressive Corp. and GMAC Insurance now offer discounted rates to customers who log fewer miles http://dispatch.com/dispatch/content/business/stories/2007/08/12/driving_less.ART_ART_08-12-07_D4_CH7J0EA.html
August 13, 200717 yr I think what they really want is the "other driving habits" information. I'm sure your insurance rate will go sky high the moment they find you like to cruise 10 above on the highway.
September 10, 200717 yr Commuters drive alone BY MARGARET A. MCGURK | [email protected] Commuting by car is an expensive habit in Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky. Our region is the nation's sixth most expensive metropolitan area for commuting, according to a Surface Transportation Policy Partnership study that found getting to and from work eats up one-fifth of the average local household's spending... http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070910/NEWS01/709100378/1077/COL02
September 10, 200717 yr >She would be more likely to try the bus, she said, "if they did some sort of mailing that came to the house, that was very understandable, easy to read, that said 'Between this time and this time, go here. (The bus) goes here, here and here. Your return trip is here and takes this long.' Then it might be easier. Uh, she could try the website.
September 10, 200717 yr COMMUTER SAVINGS CALCULATOR What does it really cost to drive to work? http://www.go-metro.com/costofdriving.html
September 10, 200717 yr I think it is funny that people go through drivers education, have to spend 50 hours driving with their temps, take a written test, take a driving test, and the maneuverability test, but taking five minutes to look at a bus schedule is too complicated.
September 10, 200717 yr ^As a freshman at UC I always found it funny how ignorant students were to the bus system. We'd take the 17 downtown from Clifton Heights to go to the Exchange, Poison Room, etc and they'd make comments like "Dude it says Mt. Healthy on the screen, aren't we supposed to be going downtown?" Or "have you noticed hardly any white people ride the bus, and that the black people are like a bunch of different shades of brown?" LOL. Most of the people I'd go with though were people from places like Morrow, OH though. For them, it was like entering into a different world. I really wish more middle class people would at least ride the bus occasionally for the times when it is more convenient. I guess I don't mind riding the bus as much as most of the people I'm around because I'm used to being the fish out of water. It doesn't bother me to utilize cheap public transportation that my tax money is paying for anyway, to ride with the poor and handicapped. Unfortunately, most other people strive for normalcy. The last thing they want is to down-grade or down-size. They need to feel upwardly mobile and you just don't get that kind of affirmation from riding a bus. Jean-Paul Sartre said it best. "Hell is other people". That quote alone explains the privatization of public space (which has been converted to huge back yards; a lack of front porches; cars that = "me time" as much as they mean efficient transportation; exclusionary zoning, etc.
September 11, 200717 yr Slightly off-topic, but it might effect some the daily commute for some of you. Please be advised on the attached notice concerning travel on the Shoreway. I confirmed with ODOT that the eastbound ramps to the Shoreway at W.45th and W.28th Streets will be closed to ALL traffic, effective today. ODOT hopes that the closures will only be for a few weeks. For updates, please visit: http://www.buckeyetraffic.org/ Bob Shores ------------------------------------------------- Media Advisory: OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION District 12 · 5500 Transportation Blvd., Garfield Hts., OH 44125 216.581.2100 SR 2 (Main Ave. Bridge) Restricted for Bridge Repair September 11, 2007, Garfield Heights, OH… The right lanes of SR 2 between W. Third St. and W. 25th St. over the Cuyahoga River remain restricted and additional restrictions for truck traffic have been implemented as crews prepare to make repairs to the bridge’s structural steel. Ohio Department of Transportation Director James G. Beasley has restricted the eastbound lanes of the bridge to non-truck traffic as a precautionary measure after analyzing damaged steel within the structure. The bridge is structurally safe however it has been restricted as a precautionary measure in order to reduce weight on the bridge. Additional closures include the W. 28th St. entrance ramp to SR 2 eastbound and the W. 45th St. entrance ramp to SR 2 eastbound only. Motorists may detour via the Detroit/Superior Bridge to W. 3rd St. north to SR 2 east. As crews begin repairs to the structure full closures will likely be necessary as repairs are made. Details will be forthcoming
September 12, 200717 yr As commutes begin earlier, new daily routines emerge By Larry Copeland, Haya El Nasser and Paul Overberg, USA TODAY SMYRNA, Ga. — Harold Shaw leaves his home in suburban Atlanta at 5:30 a.m. to drive the 34 miles to his job at a fiber-optics cable plant. He gets there early enough to eat breakfast and read the newspaper. "The traffic is not as busy this time of day," Shaw, 60, says after whipping into a QuikTrip store Monday to use the ATM and get a drink. "It's not as stressful if you don't have to deal with a lot of congestion."... http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2007-09-12-commute-routine_N.htm#
September 13, 200717 yr Traffic's bad, will get worse BY MARGARET A. MCGURK | [email protected] The region’s transportation planners have figured out how bad traffic congestion is where you live, how bad it will get by 2030 and what choices we have to fix it. This month, you can have a say on solving the problem... http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20070912/NEWS01/309120075/
September 13, 200717 yr The article went on to list some possible solutions for this problem: An array of solutions The OKI congestion report includes descriptions of every potential action that could help ease congestion, organized into five major categories. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070913/NEWS01/709130412
September 13, 200717 yr ^excluding the mass transit options, none of those do nothing to reduce the amount of cars, all it will do is create a new and higher level of car volume, ergo, increasing congestion in the long run
September 13, 200717 yr ^excluding the mass transit options, none of those do nothing to reduce the amount of cars, all it will do is create a new and higher level of car volume, ergo, increasing congestion in the long run The "Manage demand" section would also help to reduce overall congestion...although it would occur in a more indirect way.
September 18, 200717 yr Study confirms traffic woes Cost of congestion is up 24 percent - to $459M BY MARGARET A. MCGURK | [email protected] A highly respected national study of highway congestion being released today reached the same conclusion as a report last week from local planners: traffic congestion in Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky keeps getting worse and more expensive... http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070918/NEWS01/709180379/1077/COL02
September 18, 200717 yr it seems like the enquirer has been running a lot of stories like these invloving congestion and transit and the like.
September 18, 200717 yr How can you love where you live when it causes you to spend little time with your 2-year-old? How does this lifestyle really work?
September 18, 200717 yr How can you love where you live when it causes you to spend little time with your 2-year-old? How does this lifestyle really work? Thats what I think when I hear people talking at work about traffic. *Don't they have any clue they are part of the problem* Typical excuse "We/I have to cause..."
September 18, 200717 yr the hour+ each way commute has really undone much of the working hour progress that has been made since the turn of the 20th century. Workers had 10 or 11 hour days in the factories, now we have 8 hour days with 2 to 3 hours of commuting.
September 18, 200717 yr Not only that but our time to travel to any shopping destination has nearly doubled. 40 mins to work + 40 mins back + 20 mins to the store + 20 mins back + 15 mins to soccer practice + 15 mins back + 10 mins here and there = A long frigging time to sit in your car every day. On top of that you have to squeeze in any chores for the day, eating, prep time, etc. We wonder why people are more stressed out they lost their free time to travel time! It would make an interesting study to have people make trave logs to see how long they travel each day compared to their stress level.
September 19, 200717 yr I wish it had but unfortunately the prevalence of the two income families will prevent the problem from ever being really solved. We just moved to Williamsburg and moved about 5 minutes from my wife's job but the only work I could find is an hour round-trip of a commute. Our options were living in the middle with both of us driving a lot or make one of us drive a bunch. The super-commutes usually have some variation of that narrative. In a perfect world, I'd be able to take a train or bus but that isn't an option around here.
September 19, 200717 yr Here's the take on the TTI Report from the Columbus Dispatch followed by a story from the Toledo Blade: Drive time is middle of the road Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:39 AM By Tim Doulin THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH In case you hadn't noticed, central Ohio commuter, you've been spending a lot more time getting to where you're going over the years. Now, a study released yesterday has calculated that "extra travel time" from increasing congestion, and it turns out we're not the worst, or the best... [email protected] http://dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2007/09/19/commute.ART_ART_09-19-07_A1_DT7UO64.html?sid=101 ******************************************** http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070919/NEWS11/709190404/-1/NEWS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article published September 19, 2007 Traffic congestion bypasses Toledo, national study shows FROM BLADE STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS Toledo may have some big-city problems, but traffic congestion isn't one of them, according to a new national study. While the Urban Mobility Report from the Texas Transportation Institute, released yesterday, showed that congestion worsened nationally between 2004 and 2005, delays actually eased in the Toledo metro area...
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