July 23, 201311 yr I hope that once the streetcar is built and is a success that when one of you is interviewed by the Enquirer. If they ask why the streetcar is a success, you say: "It's a success, no thanks to YOU and all the other naysayers out there. Let that be a lesson to you."
July 23, 201311 yr Cunningham is going to say how cincinnati is the next Detroit on 700wlw at noon. I will venture to guess chris smitherman will be the guest and he will connect it all to the streetcar....again This was the case during yesterday's 2 o'clock hour. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
July 23, 201311 yr ^Not to bring this back to the mayoral race, but Qualls needs to get out ahead of that and emphasize that projects like the streetcar are designed to keep Cincinnati from becoming the next Detroit by increasing the city's population, and thus its tax base. Detroit has a lot of complex problems, but most of it boils down to them losing about 1/4 of their population in the last decade (which in turn, was the result of other problems). If that hadn't happened, they wouldn't be in the situation they are in now. So if "becoming the next Detroit" is really a concern for people like Cunningham, Smitherman, and Cranley, they need to lay out a plan to increase population. Anything else is a waste of everyone's time, and the public needs to be made aware (and continually reminded) of that. EDIT: She did a very nice job of outlining the need for Cincinnati to grow it's population in her letter a few weeks ago. She just needs to keep hammering that idea, and start challenging her rivals to outline their own plan to achieve population growth, since no one would argue that population decrease/stagnation is a good idea.
July 23, 201311 yr ^Not to bring this back to the mayoral race, but Qualls needs to get out ahead of that and emphasize that projects like the streetcar are designed to keep Cincinnati from becoming the next Detroit by increasing the city's population, and thus its tax base. Detroit has a lot of complex problems, but most of it boils down to them losing about 1/4 of their population in the last decade (which in turn, was the result of other problems). If that hadn't happened, they wouldn't be in the situation they are in now. So if "becoming the next Detroit" is really a concern for people like Cunningham, Smitherman, and Cranley, they need to lay out a plan to increase population. Anything else is a waste of everyone's time, and the public needs to be made aware (and continually reminded) of that. Relevant: http://www.governing.com/blogs/view/gov-detroit-streetcar-moving-forward.html Streetcar is so enticing that private enterprise is chipping in to get it built in Detroit.
July 23, 201311 yr ^Not to bring this back to the mayoral race, but Qualls needs to get out ahead of that and emphasize that projects like the streetcar are designed to keep Cincinnati from becoming the next Detroit by increasing the city's population, and thus its tax base. Detroit has a lot of complex problems, but most of it boils down to them losing about 1/4 of their population in the last decade (which in turn, was the result of other problems). If that hadn't happened, they wouldn't be in the situation they are in now. So if "becoming the next Detroit" is really a concern for people like Cunningham, Smitherman, and Cranley, they need to lay out a plan to increase population. Anything else is a waste of everyone's time, and the public needs to be made aware (and continually reminded) of that. Mark Mallory argued that Cincinnati had over 375,000 people just a few years ago. The US Census believes the City has 296,000. That's almost a 25% difference. Cincinnati is suffering from being too big to have so little tax revenue and federal/state assistance. It's a robust, dynamic middle market under the veil of a smaller, simplistic, constantly diminishing economy because of how its TV market is drawn up and the dysfunctional county government that supposedly serves it. The local media knows the city limits needs more residents living within them and that the Streetcar can only increase tax income, but they obviously aren't being paid to tell that story. Media members at large are paid to do what their bosses want them to do or put themselves at professional risk.
July 24, 201311 yr Recent video of light rail construction in Portland: In the video's final minute, we see the new bridge that will carry light rail AND modern streetcars on shared trackage. But to me the most interesting thing about this video is how light rail is being built through such a low-density and bland residential area. Every line we planned as part of Metromoves was through a denser area than what we see here.
July 24, 201311 yr I just moved to SaltLake City where we have light rail, commuter rail, and soon a streetcar. I'll try to get some photos but google Sugarhouse Streetcar. Our new line goes through some of the least dense neighborhoods I've seen in a city. In fact, all of SLC's rail lines run through some pretty sprawled areas.
July 24, 201311 yr http://www.fox19.com/story/22915431/fox19-investigates-who-might-cash-in-on-the-streetcar If anything I think this report helps other investor to want to help develop OTR.
July 24, 201311 yr I think it's better to build LRT in dense regions, but constructing rail in more sprawled environments is good too. The word "sprawl" itself insinuates a need for mobility, or transit. Introducing people who live outside of the urban shell to options of transit will increase their QOL, financial and social interest in the city's core, and strengthen their personal connection to the city as an urban dweller. Well-planned rail can also turn low-density into high-density. Aligning rail through low-density residential areas is great for teenagers. Many sprawled neighborhoods contain only so much entertainment, and the young people end up with the feeling of being stranded and bored in their borough. They get older, go to college and move away because they have so little pride in their community, and there goes your next generation of taxpayers. Raising the picket fence crowd to appreciate advanced transit will pay great sociophysical dividend for future generations.
July 24, 201311 yr Recent video of light rail construction in Portland: In the video's final minute, we see the new bridge that will carry light rail AND modern streetcars on shared trackage. But to me the most interesting thing about this video is how light rail is being built through such a low-density and bland residential area. Every line we planned as part of Metromoves was through a denser area than what we see here. Looks a lot different from this perspective. Taking another group out there this fall. Let me know if you'd like to go.
July 24, 201311 yr The Fox 19 story, after a month of investigation, immediately got the route wrong by having Tricia macke say it ended at fountain square. I hate to keep harping on it but our local media is woefully inept. If we've constantly caught them flat out lying about this project numerous times, what else are they not being truthful about
July 24, 201311 yr The Fox 19 story, after a month of investigation, immediately got the route wrong by having Tricia macke say it ended at fountain square. I hate to keep harping on it but our local media is woefully inept. If we've constantly caught them flat out lying about this project numerous times, what else are they not being truthful about ^ I suspect the reporter has had a bad day today.
July 24, 201311 yr The Fox 19 story, after a month of investigation, immediately got the route wrong by having Tricia macke say it ended at fountain square. I hate to keep harping on it but our local media is woefully inept. If we've constantly caught them flat out lying about this project numerous times, what else are they not being truthful about ^ I suspect the reporter has had a bad day today. I hope that means the streetcar team is going on the offensive with the media. Long overdue. Media is protected by the Constitution (i.e. Freedom of the Press) so they can serve the critical role of informing the public. Whatever can be done to stop them from misinforming the public must be done, for the sake of a healthy democracy.
July 24, 201311 yr Holly Redmond mentioned it going to the Banks This kinda kills me, the lamestream media is just now doing this "in depth, professional" investigation. I did it on my own about 4 years ago when the NAATP was attacking Towne. I came up with about 500 properties & 400 owners directly on the route & OTR Holdings didn't have as many properties as now. The makeup of the southern end was unknown at the time, too. But, then there's also the side streets... http://quimbob.blogspot.com/2009/08/plot-thickens-cincinnatis-naaacp-has.html
July 25, 201311 yr Fun fact of the day: on Facebook, Metro has under 2,000 followers. The streetcar? Over 5,000 followers.
July 25, 201311 yr he didn't have much This whole notion of "I want my share, too" is childish. It's like dealing with kids where ya gotta give 'em the same thing for gifts or they throw tantrums.
July 25, 201311 yr Holly Redmond mentioned it going to the Banks This kinda kills me, the lamestream media is just now doing this "in depth, professional" investigation. I did it on my own about 4 years ago when the NAATP was attacking Towne. I came up with about 500 properties & 400 owners directly on the route & OTR Holdings didn't have as many properties as now. The makeup of the southern end was unknown at the time, too. But, then there's also the side streets... http://quimbob.blogspot.com/2009/08/plot-thickens-cincinnatis-naaacp-has.html High school football stories are a lot easier to deal with and get better ratings.
July 27, 201311 yr Wow, this is weird. And, of course, they had to say something negative about the streetcar...http://cincinnati.com/blogs/politics/2013/07/26/qualls-rescues-hermit-crab-returns-it-to-store/
July 27, 201311 yr ...What the heck? I can't say I've ever read anything like that before. And of course the use of the word trolley had to be thrown in.
July 27, 201311 yr Considering Qualls would be the only person who could have told the reporter that story, she probably included the trolley anecdote herself. Maybe with the misguided hope that the "spiel" part would be fleshed out in the article, haha.
July 29, 201311 yr There's an excellent new article by Paul Krugman about sprawl and touches on the need for rapid transit: Stranded by Sprawl: Are spread-out cities killing the American dream? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/29/opinion/krugman-stranded-by-sprawl.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&_r=0 ".....And in Atlanta poor and rich neighborhoods are far apart because, basically, everything is far apart; Atlanta is the Sultan of Sprawl, even more spread out than other major Sun Belt cities. This would make an effective public transportation system nearly impossible to operate even if politicians were willing to pay for it, which they aren’t. As a result, disadvantaged workers often find themselves stranded; there may be jobs available somewhere, but they literally can’t get there....."
July 31, 201311 yr Cranley said that if elected, he will cancel the streetcar project 'in its tracks' and : Get Senator Brown, Chabot, Boehner, Wenstrup, County commissioners to lobby to federal gov and get that $45mil allocated to the MLK project Completely ridiculous what he's saying to get elected(Approximately the 17min mark). He knows this is an impossible scenario http://www.audio-podcast.fm/audio-episodes/john-cranley-22085334.html
July 31, 201311 yr Cranley will just isolate himself more and more from regular Democrats with this outlandish positions, like Pepper did when he started proposing harsher city marijuana punishments during his mayoral run. There is no popular constituency for the MLK exchange- it's driven purely by businesses, property owners and construction companies.
July 31, 201311 yr Listen to the last caller on that podcast....She goes off on Cranley about the parking meter and streetcar issues
July 31, 201311 yr city on a hill? The incline house is the hottest place in town? I'm not 4 minutes into this & the guy is a loon....
July 31, 201311 yr ^ In John Cranley's world, the Incline House probably is the hottest place in town. (Except that it's closed for lunch)
August 1, 201311 yr Cranley will just isolate himself more and more from regular Democrats with this outlandish positions, like Pepper did when he started proposing harsher city marijuana punishments during his mayoral run. There is no popular constituency for the MLK exchange- it's driven purely by businesses, property owners and construction companies. UC's scared that if campus isn't as easy to get to as a Wal-Mart that people will stop going to college.
August 1, 201311 yr ^ In John Cranley's world, the Incline House probably is the hottest place in town. (Except that it's closed for lunch) Was there for lunch on Friday with 7 coworkers.
August 1, 201311 yr Cranley will just isolate himself more and more from regular Democrats with this outlandish positions, like Pepper did when he started proposing harsher city marijuana punishments during his mayoral run. There is no popular constituency for the MLK exchange- it's driven purely by businesses, property owners and construction companies. UC's scared that if campus isn't as easy to get to as a Wal-Mart that people will stop going to college. Cincinnati Tech has been repeating the same schtick, and Crankley was on the radio and on Twitter weeks ago calling for the streetcar Funds to be redirected to build a special exit from I75 dedicated to CTC. Because college students are going to cancel their education if they have to drive an extra 10 minutes to get to school.
August 1, 201311 yr Cincinnati Tech has been repeating the same schtick, and Crankley was on the radio and on Twitter weeks ago calling for the streetcar Funds to be redirected to build a special exit from I75 dedicated to CTC. Because college students are going to cancel their education if they have to drive an extra 10 minutes to get to school. Yep. That's why there's 250,000 college students in Boston -- equal to or more than what is in all of Ohio. Because the driving there is so attractive. Oh wait, maybe it has more to do with the built environment surrounding an extensive transit, biking and pedestrian network. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 1, 201311 yr Cranley will just isolate himself more and more from regular Democrats with this outlandish positions, like Pepper did when he started proposing harsher city marijuana punishments during his mayoral run. There is no popular constituency for the MLK exchange- it's driven purely by businesses, property owners and construction companies. UC's scared that if campus isn't as easy to get to as a Wal-Mart that people will stop going to college. Cincinnati Tech has been repeating the same schtick, and Crankley was on the radio and on Twitter weeks ago calling for the streetcar Funds to be redirected to build a special exit from I75 dedicated to CTC. Because college students are going to cancel their education if they have to drive an extra 10 minutes to get to school. Gee, that's who you need attending your school, people who aren't dedicated enough to their education to deal with a non-autocentric environment.
August 1, 201311 yr ^ In John Cranley's world, the Incline House probably is the hottest place in town. (Except that it's closed for lunch) Was there for lunch on Friday with 7 coworkers. CLOSED FOR LUNCH MON-THURS special brunch on Sun, forget about Saturday People seem to like the service & food but not the construction - say it's too noisy.
August 1, 201311 yr ^ In John Cranley's world, the Incline House probably is the hottest place in town. (Except that it's closed for lunch) Was there for lunch on Friday with 7 coworkers. CLOSED FOR LUNCH MON-THURS special brunch on Sun, forget about Saturday People seem to like the service & food but not the construction - say it's too noisy. But it's still open for lunch. The Senate isn't open for lunch. Nor was Bakersfield until very recently.
August 1, 201311 yr ^ In John Cranley's world, the Incline House probably is the hottest place in town. (Except that it's closed for lunch) Was there for lunch on Friday with 7 coworkers. CLOSED FOR LUNCH MON-THURS special brunch on Sun, forget about Saturday People seem to like the service & food but not the construction - say it's too noisy. Perhaps it needs a door to nowhere.
August 1, 201311 yr ^ In John Cranley's world, the Incline House probably is the hottest place in town. (Except that it's closed for lunch) Was there for lunch on Friday with 7 coworkers. CLOSED FOR LUNCH MON-THURS special brunch on Sun, forget about Saturday People seem to like the service & food but not the construction - say it's too noisy. But it's still open for lunch. The Senate isn't open for lunch. Nor was Bakersfield until very recently. The Senate is open for lunch and has been for a long time. Just not open Sunday/Monday.
August 1, 201311 yr But it's still open for lunch. The Senate isn't open for lunch. Nor was Bakersfield until very recently. The Senate is open for lunch and has been for a long time. Just not open Sunday/Monday. Thanks. Just posted an update - some of these sites/apps still have some very outdated information.
August 1, 201311 yr Yeah, it's off topic, but I went to lunch at the Senate something like 18 months ago for my birthday.
August 1, 201311 yr ^ In John Cranley's world, the Incline House probably is the hottest place in town. (Except that it's closed for lunch) Was there for lunch on Friday with 7 coworkers. CLOSED FOR LUNCH MON-THURS special brunch on Sun, forget about Saturday People seem to like the service & food but not the construction - say it's too noisy. Perhaps it needs a door to nowhere. For the win
August 2, 201311 yr Congratulations to Christopher Smitherman for recording his 99th podcast with 700wlw where he discusses the streetcar. http://www.700wlw.com/player/?station=WLW-AM&program_name=podcast&program_id=amazon.xml&mid=23533326 "African Americans are very concerned about the streetcar. They don't like it. They haven't appreciated the last 8 years." "A streetcar that's very unpopular...are making voters run to John Cranley" "They don't like the streetcar, they don't like the parking deal" - "No one likes the streetcar. I haven't met one supporter" (Amazon) "Citizens said to me. "Look Smitherman. I'm dissapointed in Mallory. He's not his father. Qualls has been there for 2 decades.I'm supporting John Cranley because I think the streetcar is nonsense". That is the feedback I'm getting in Hyde Park, Bond Hill and all over" "I'd like to see Amy Murray, Sam Malone, Melissa Wegman, Angela Feeman, elected to council. We can't look like Detroit to voters" "I can't say it enough. John Cranley for mayor. He must win" "Cranley tells me he wants more police officers, more fire fighters, fixing potholes. Not streetcars"
August 2, 201311 yr Congratulations to Christopher Smitherman for recording his 99th podcast with 700wlw where he discusses the streetcar. http://www.700wlw.com/player/?station=WLW-AM&program_name=podcast&program_id=amazon.xml&mid=23533326 "African Americans are very concerned about the streetcar. They don't like it. They haven't appreciated the last 8 years." "A streetcar that's very unpopular...are making voters run to John Cranley" "They don't like the streetcar, they don't like the parking deal" - "No one likes the streetcar. I haven't met one supporter" (Amazon) "Citizens said to me. "Look Smitherman. I'm dissapointed in Mallory. He's not his father. Qualls has been there for 2 decades.I'm supporting John Cranley because I think the streetcar is nonsense". That is the feedback I'm getting in Hyde Park, Bond Hill and all over" "I'd like to see Amy Murray, Sam Malone, Melissa Wegman, Angela Feeman, elected to council. We can't look like Detroit to voters" "I can't say it enough. John Cranley for mayor. He must win" "Cranley tells me he wants more police officers, more fire fighters, fixing potholes. Not streetcars" Well Slitherman, why is it that the past Cincinnati NAACP presidents endorse Qualls even though you're so close with Cranley?
August 2, 201311 yr "African Americans are very concerned about the streetcar. They don't like it. They haven't appreciated the last 8 years." African Americans (as a whole?) aren't happy with a black mayor and a black city manager?
August 2, 201311 yr I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but the way Smitherman is plugging Cranley seems obvious that Cranley has pledged the vice-mayor's position to him.
August 3, 201311 yr One politician pledging something to another is not a conspiracy. It is simply politics as usual.
August 3, 201311 yr "African Americans are very concerned about the streetcar. They don't like it. They haven't appreciated the last 8 years." African Americans (as a whole?) aren't happy with a black mayor and a black city manager? What does this have to do with the price of eggs?
August 3, 201311 yr ^I just think it's weird that the head of the local NAACP is so opposed to local leaders (who also happen to be black), and has the gall to speak for the entire African American community when voicing his own personal displeasure. I can't believe he gets away with comments like that without being questioned, because there's no way that is accurate. EDIT: My comment probably belongs in the Smitherman thread, not here, but it came from the article just posted in this thread.
August 3, 201311 yr ^I would have put it in the smitherman thread but it was deleted In the database crash
August 3, 201311 yr ^I would have put it in the smitherman thread but it was deleted In the database crash So - start a new Slitherman thread or just stick his antics into the COAST thread?
August 4, 201311 yr ^ Here's a link to page 2 of the old thread. I can't seem to find page 1, but it's a start. Maybe FakeCinEnquirer knows what was on the first page. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cUlvb1eNi0IJ:www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php%3Ftopic%3D28457.35+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
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