November 4, 200915 yr Just noticed this 7:30 p.m. Tweet from @GoCOAST: "WeDemandAVote congratulates Progressers on a well-fought ISSUE 9 race. Win or lose, you were a class act, and worthy rivals. Thanks #NoOn9 (via @GOCOAST)" "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
November 4, 200915 yr Just noticed this 7:30 p.m. Tweet from @GoCOAST: "WeDemandAVote congratulates Progressers on a well-fought ISSUE 9 race. Win or lose, you were a class act, and worthy rivals. Thanks #NoOn9 (via @GOCOAST)" Im not sure how to take that..
November 4, 200915 yr Regardless of what happens tonight, I hope Cincinnatians for Progress doesn't decide to fold up their tent and call it a day. There will be future battles, and CFP has built up a solid organization to counter COAST, et al.
November 4, 200915 yr Looks like the casino is a go. Let's see if we'll be able to build a streetcar to get to it.
November 4, 200915 yr Almost two hours since the polls closed. Is it normal for the returns to take this long?
November 4, 200915 yr Does channelcincinnati.com have this reversed (they have 52% yes) or are the others wrong - or is everyone confused? Issue 9: Streetcar / Rail Candidate Votes Percent Winner For 7,131 52% Against 6,650 48%
November 4, 200915 yr Cincinnati.com, WLWT, and WCPO are all consistent in their 52% "No" numbers, so I'd go with them. Not that it really matters at this point, but still...
November 4, 200915 yr Does channelcincinnati.com have this reversed (they have 52% yes) or are the others wrong - or is everyone confused? Issue 9: Streetcar / Rail Candidate Votes Percent Winner For 7,131 52% Against 6,650 48% Cincinnati.com has it the opposite of what you stated
November 4, 200915 yr Almost two hours since the polls closed. Is it normal for the returns to take this long? Cincinnati and Hamilton County in general have always been pretty slow at getting started, let alone finishing, from what I remember.
November 4, 200915 yr 44 people on this thread right now. Is there a way to see if we set a UO record?
November 4, 200915 yr I should have just referred to it as wlwt.com, but I sure hope they are the ones that are wrong. It would be nice to start with a lead although there is a long way to go. ...and at 9:30 they have corrected their numbers.
November 4, 200915 yr Hamilton County tally slow http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20091103/NEWS0108/91102005/Hamilton+County+tally+slow Shortly after 9 p.m., board of election members gathered in the counting room, watching as workers dealt with some problems in the ballot-reading equipment. Ballots are being read by the machinery, but not spitting out totals.
November 4, 200915 yr They say Cincinnati is always behind the times. I guess that applies to election returns as well.
November 4, 200915 yr Almost two hours since the polls closed. Is it normal for the returns to take this long? Cincinnati and Hamilton County in general have always been pretty slow at getting started, let alone finishing, from what I remember. In non-presidential elections, most boards of elections in the cities don't get the final, unofficial results until sometime between 10 p.m. and midnight. Sometimes I've seen the counts continue until the following day. EDIT: you Hamilton County folks are lucky. I'm writing a freelance article tonight on City of Cleveland races and the results haven't moved one bit... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 4, 200915 yr Cincinnati Issue 9: Passenger Rail 30 of 285 precincts reporting Candidate/Issue Votes Percent No 9,565 53.2% Yes 8,423 46.8%
November 4, 200915 yr Cincinnati Mayor 30 of 285 precincts reporting Candidate/Issue Votes Percent Mark Mallory 9,131 51.2% Brad Wenstrup 8,700 48.8% Tom Chandler (W) 11 0.1%
November 4, 200915 yr I think the last off-election year the city had about 59k people vote so we could be close to a third of the way there.
November 4, 200915 yr I think the last off-election year the city had about 59k people vote so we could be close to a third of the way there. issue 3 looks like it will be a dogfight
November 4, 200915 yr City council so far: Roxanne Qualls 11,072 8.9% Cecil Thomas 9,213 7.4% Chris Bortz 8,831 7.1% Chris Monzel 8,444 6.8% Leslie Ghiz 8,198 6.6% Jeff Berding 7,851 6.3% Charlie Winburn 7,768 6.2% Laure Quinlivan 7,417 5.9% Laketa Cole 7,354 5.9% (FWIW, I'm not related to Laketa in any way.)
November 4, 200915 yr I think the last off-election year the city had about 59k people vote so we could be close to a third of the way there. More like about 15%. But while the margin is still a little too close for comfort for me, I'm feeling better now than I did a few hours ago.
November 4, 200915 yr These results reflect the westside of Cincy. No on 9 indeed! oh wow! whered you see that??
November 4, 200915 yr maybe I should post a reference. "Voters in Cincinnati are deciding whether to approve a charter amendment that would require public approval of any city spending on a proposed streetcar system and future passenger rail plans. With 30 of the city's 285 precincts reporting, the "no" vote was running at 53 percent, with most of the votes so far coming from the West Side of the city." http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20091103/NEWS0108/311030020/1055/news/City+rail+amendment+losing
November 4, 200915 yr Yeah, where did you see that? If those are west side results (wouldn't surprise me given Wenstrup's showing so far), then we should be in good shape. EDIT: Cross-posted with your link. Nice.
November 4, 200915 yr It looked like it would go through easily in the early going - much closer now. I think the last off-election year the city had about 59k people vote so we could be close to a third of the way there. issue 3 looks like it will be a dogfight
November 4, 200915 yr Can't say I have any strong feelings about the casino issue one way or the other, but I'd rather see a casino at Broadway Commons than a parking lot.
November 4, 200915 yr You think there will be 120k voters - I would be surprised if there are that many but it's possible. I think the last off-election year the city had about 59k people vote so we could be close to a third of the way there. More like about 15%. But while the margin is still a little too close for comfort for me, I'm feeling better now than I did a few hours ago.
November 4, 200915 yr You think there will be 120k voters - I would be surprised if there are that many but it's possible. I think the last off-election year the city had about 59k people vote so we could be close to a third of the way there. More like about 15%. But while the margin is still a little too close for comfort for me, I'm feeling better now than I did a few hours ago. How has it been traditionally? Absentee ballots tend to be more conservative and older? Thats what the article states
November 4, 200915 yr ^^ Nevermind, I misread the numbers on the returns. Your 30% figure is correct, assuming the turnout is comparable. (No wonder I'm having to withdraw from my evening algebra class....)
November 4, 200915 yr 66 Of 285 Precincts Reporting Candidate/Issue Votes Percent No 14,121 54.0% Yes 12,008 46.0% Looking good!
November 4, 200915 yr How has it been traditionally? Absentee ballots tend to be more conservative and older? Thats what the article states Absentee ballots can also be businesspersons, military personnel, college students and others whose primary residence is in a given precinct but they cannot be in the precinct on election day. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 4, 200915 yr 66 Of 285 Precincts Reporting Candidate/Issue Votes Percent No 14,121 54.0% Yes 12,008 46.0% Looking good! what site? cincinnati.com isnt updating
November 4, 200915 yr The theory some of us/me have is if the more conservative westside votes no, issue 9 will fail. They're easy to bad mouth but most do like their city — a (not your stereotypical) Westsider
November 4, 200915 yr 66 Of 285 Precincts Reporting Candidate/Issue Votes Percent No 14,121 54.0% Yes 12,008 46.0% Looking good! what site? cincinnati.com isnt updating That's from Cincinnati.com. You may need to refresh the page.
November 4, 200915 yr 66 Of 285 Precincts Reporting Candidate/Issue Votes Percent No 14,121 54.0% Yes 12,008 46.0% Looking good! what site? cincinnati.com isnt updating That's from Cincinnati.com. You may need to refresh the page. Got it now...Keep it up NO vote!
November 4, 200915 yr I think reporters are getting the Yes/No mixed up. Fox19 just said Yes are leading, but graphic showed 53% No votes leading.
November 4, 200915 yr Cincinnati Mayor 158 of 285 precincts reporting Candidate/Issue Votes Percent Mark Mallory 23,917 56.7% Brad Wenstrup 18,273 43.3% Tom Chandler (W) 26 0.1%
November 4, 200915 yr Roxanne Qualls 26,827 9.3% Cecil Thomas 22,337 7.8% Chris Bortz 19,223 6.7% Laketa Cole 18,539 6.5% Laure Quinlivan 17,635 6.1% Charlie Winburn 17,632 6.1% Chris Monzel 17,379 6.1% Jeff Berding 17,214 6.0% Leslie Ghiz 17,174 6.0% Bernadette Watson 15,886 5.5%
November 4, 200915 yr Cincinnati Issue 9: Passenger Rail 158 of 285 precincts reporting Candidate/Issue Votes Percent No 23,775 55.8% Yes 18,816 44.2% Getting there... If these numbers keep up, then this thing is in the bag!
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