The percentages from otr, pendleton,  etc  I posted earlier  DO NOT include early voting or absentee.  So number should be much higher

FakeCinEnquirer: I looked up Nov. 2009 mayoral election results. IIRC, Mallory beat Wenstrup 54-46 with 33.06% turnout. There you go. Hope that included high west side turnout ;)

FakeCinEnquirer: I looked up Nov. 2009 mayoral election results. IIRC, Mallory beat Wenstrup 54-46 with 33.06% turnout. There you go. Hope that included high west side turnout ;)

 

That's encouraging

 

Believe me I hope you are right and I am wrong.

FakeCinEnquirer: I looked up Nov. 2009 mayoral election results. IIRC, Mallory beat Wenstrup 54-46 with 33.06% turnout. There you go. Hope that included high west side turnout ;)

 

Believe me I hope you are right and I am wrong. 

 

I know ;) . BTW the polls have closed. Hope the turnout was decent...

From Twitter:

 

@917wvxu GOP areas like Mt. Washinton, Mt. Lookout running somewhat higher than city as a whole. #ohel

Darn...we'll see soon.

FakeCinEnquirer: I looked up Nov. 2009 mayoral election results. IIRC, Mallory beat Wenstrup 54-46 with 33.06% turnout. There you go. Hope that included high west side turnout ;)

 

Thing is, Cranley would pick up nearly all of the Wenstrup supporters, plus some low-info Dems, plus some people who are mostly well-informed but fanatically mad over the parking lease.

natininja: now I think you are probably right :( We'll see soon, but early returns have Cranley leading Qualls.

Well, what are the chances of at least keeping the Seelbach/Quinlivan/Young/Simpson quartet and adding one of the other streetcar supporters? Or of ridding City Hall of Smitherman?

Early voting numbers: Cranley 62 percent, Qualls 38 percent.

NerdyParker: I saw that on the Hamilton County BOE site too.

...crap...sooooo generally what percentage of the votes are actually early votes? Is this as big of a deal as it initially comes off as?

...crap...sooooo generally what percentage of the votes are actually early votes? Is this as big of a deal as it initially comes off as?

 

I would think it would depend on which precincts the votes are coming from. Heck, that loony Tea Party governor candidate in Virginia (Cuccinelli) is leading after 27 percent of precincts now reported, but I don't think anyone thinks he can win - particularly when the more urban counties start reporting.

 

What is disturbing, though, is that the early Cranley lead mirrors the primary numbers.

We should switch to a different thread, rather than cluttering up the streetcar thread with election stuff. Either mayor or council threads. Or start a 2013 election night thread. I'll leave it to someone else to pick.

If election news and discussion is related to the streetcar, its worth keeping here.

It's still fairly early, but is anyone else getting worried?

^I am. It might be over.

I am, but we also do not know which precincts have reported.  Generally the early voters are older, but right now the results are a Republican's wish come true.

As it stands right now, a majority of council members are against the streetcar.

I can see which precinct have report - many west side/outer ones. But still. Check the map of precincts here: http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/OH/Hamilton/49399/121808/Web01/en/summary.html.

I am, but we also do not know which precincts have reported.  Generally the early voters are older, but right now the results are a Republican's wish come true.

 

You can see which precincts reported here:

http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/OH/Hamilton/49399/121808/Web01/en/summary.html

 

Filter out the races you don't want to see, and click the "Map" viewing option on the mayor's race.

 

Only one central precinct has finished reporting. Most are far west or far east.

 

Edit: This is good for Qualls's chances of bouncing back, btw. Still, the numbers suck so far.

Great, thanks - Qualls is clearly stronger in the central areas.

Yikes - trouble is brewing.

More precincts reporting now. Still only 11-B from the central part of the city, which Qualls picked up 113-73.

Yikes - trouble is brewing.

 

Yeah, I'm not exactly optimistic. But I hope the urban core comes through big time.

So far it's generally only been the 'burbs reporting.  Even so, it's looking pretty bad.

Will update:

 

MAYOR,

Qualls - 41% (2nd)

 

COUNCIL,

Simpson - 6.5% (4th) I

Young - 5.7% (7th) I

Seelbach - 6% (8th) I

Quinlivan - 5.3% - (10th) I

Landsman - 5% (11th)

Dillingham - 4.8% (13th)

Butler - 2.5% (17th)

Moroski - 2.2% (19th)

 

http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/OH/Hamilton/49399/122312/Web01/en/summary.html

 

Basically, Qualls for anywhere in OTR, downtown, Northside and CUF, and Cranley everywhere else.

Only 56 of 175 precincts reporting so far.

 

Well, this isn't looking good. I think this might be over. Oh well. That's what happens with this kind of turnout...yuck.

133/175 precincts reporting: Cranley 58, Qualls 42. It's over.

That's a wrap. 133/175 reporting, core precincts all in, 59-41 Cranley.

Nice, nightmare scenario.  Quinlivan and Landsman need to clip Murray and Flynn.  Mann might be a wildcard after analyzing the cost to cancel.

Amy Murray 17,010 5.63%

Kevin Flynn 16,756 5.54%

Laure Quinlivan 16,097 5.32% S

Greg Landsman 15,164 5.02% S

 

133/175 reporting

174/175 now reporting.

 

P.G. Sittenfeld 9.62%

Charlie Winburn 7.03%

David Mann 6.79%

Yvette Simpson 6.54%

Chris Seelbach 6.10%

Christopher Smitherman 6.06%

Wendell Young 5.80%

Kevin Flynn 5.66%

Amy Murray 5.64%

Unless the new council/mayor suddenly release the cost of lawsuits, then I think the project will be dead in a month (Rob Ford type opposition).

Wow, I can't believe Qualls and the pro-streetcar candidates did so poorly.  This is a huge, huge blow.  WTF is wrong with the people who vote for Smitherman?

What the f*** is wrong with this city.  Extremely frustrated, and now we have the prospect of another canceled rail project.  In 10 years as more and more cities get streetcars we will talk about coulda, shoulda, woulda and try to start again.  But of course the feds will tell the city that no funds for any type of rail is coming because this city cannot finish a project.

Unless there are 6 votes to cancel, it's time for a COAST move and put any cancellation legislation on the ballet for referendum.  Keeps construction moving that much longer.

I think phase 1a will be fine, but any expansion into CUF or elsewhere is off of the table for at least four years.

I feel so sorry for those of you who have poured yourselves into this. I don't know what else to say.

I think phase 1a will be fine, but any expansion into CUF or elsewhere is off of the table for at least four years.

 

I'd be okay with a just phase 1a for now - because if people see it successful they will want 1b, and Cranley will use his political b.s. to turn his position around and pretend like he was for the streetcar all along, which I'd also be okay with.

 

But I highly question whether phase 1a is safe with a streetcar opponent as a mayor and an almost entire council that is against the project.

I hope Phase 1a is fine. If that works, I bet Council and Cranley suddenly shift (really). Cranley is that opportunistic...

 

Otherwise, rail is kaput in Cincinnati.

I think phase 1a will be fine, but any expansion into CUF or elsewhere is off of the table for at least four years.

 

I'd be okay with a just phase 1a for now - because if people see it successful they will want 1b, and Cranley will use his political b.s. to turn his position around and pretend like he was for the streetcar all along, which I'd also be okay with.

 

But I highly question whether phase 1a is safe with a streetcar opponent as a mayor and an almost entire council that is against the project.

 

I agree.  I think there's a good chance we might not see phase 1a.

I think phase 1a will be fine, but any expansion into CUF or elsewhere is off of the table for at least four years.

 

Even with the city council now anti-streetcar? I'm gonna need someone to talk me off the ledge.

Phase 1A is not fine. 

Unless there are 6 votes to cancel, it's time for a COAST move and put any cancellation legislation on the ballet for referendum.  Keeps construction moving that much longer.

 

Bingo.  Referendum time once they vote to kill it

You think he'll make good on his promise to rip up the rails? He's a lawyer and he understands that breaking these contracts will prove to be a costly litigation nightmare.

^Sherman: are you sure? Doesn't he have friends who'd make big bucks pursuing this litigation? On the other hand, maybe it was a ploy. Just like ending the subway project was a "ploy" for Seasongood (totally different politics, I know).

You think he'll make good on his promise to rip up the rails? He's a lawyer and he understands that breaking these contracts will prove to be a costly litigation nightmare.

 

He just said the streetcar is done. He's the new mayor and has a 6-3 anti streetcar council. 

 

Smitherman is in charge of pension reform and possibly vice mayor. 

 

 

Well, I better get down there for some historical photos then.