This is the worst idea I've ever seen. What starts off as a decently designed building quickly turns into a tower of Jenga or some childs building blocks stack. blah!! Does each residence have control over where the floor spins. Because you know they will never look like the original building before everyone moves in and starts playing spin.

 

That is hilarious! :D

I would love to visit Dubai to see the architecture and the cranes everywhere. I don't think it'd be about anything else. Only problem, last time I looked it up for the heck of it, a plane ticket was around 4000 dollars.

That balcony on the dynamic tower would freak me out. It hangs way out there and i'm scared of heights!

I would love to visit Dubai to see the architecture and the cranes everywhere. I don't think it'd be about anything else. Only problem, last time I looked it up for the heck of it, a plane ticket was around 4000 dollars.

 

 

Via Kayak.com:

 

You can grab a flight from cleveland to Dubai with at least 30 day advance (via Air France) for $1,245.

That build would have too much friction for pipes and valves. It would have to be replaced more often or even break because of the twisting nature of the building.

Since nothing seems outrageous to build there, they should just erect a gigantic bubble to air condition the city  :roll:.  Heck they already have an indoor ski slope.  As long as this bubble is taller than the proposed Al Burj skyscraper.  :-o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Burj

^ hmm, maybe dubai is like america 100 yrs ago after all?

 

buckminster fuller proposed that very idea for midtown manhattan long ago:

 

http://www.arttattler.com/Images/NorthAmerica/NewYork/Whitney/Buckminster%20Fuller/fuller_dome.jpg

 

 

See...it could happen.  A desert globe instead of a snow globe  :wink:

^ hmm, maybe dubai is like america 100 yrs ago after all?

 

buckminster fuller proposed that very idea for midtown manhattan long ago:

 

 

 

 

I heard the bubble still exists, for native New Yorkers :)

^ sure, as it does for all parochially-inclined people.

 

***

 

 

snohetta gets a big dubai project (that's not quite as cool as their current ohio project  :wink: ) !!!

 

 

the Ras Al-Khaimah Gateway Project

a hotel, conference and exhibition complex

 

http://www.dezeen.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/rakoversikt3_edit-copy.jpg

 

http://www.dezeen.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/rak_natt_mir4.jpg 

 

http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_08_aod.jpg

 

The architectural expression for our proposal is inspired by the surrounding desert and mountain landscape. This concept provides for an infinite variety of naturally shaded, intimate and protected spaces, around which the multiple uses associated with the development are woven. The undulating architectural landscape is resolved in a dramatic landmark tower marking the main gateway plaza. This 200 m high tower will be the setting for a 5 star plus hotel affording panoramic views across the emirate, to the gulf and mountains beyond...

 

 

http://curbed.com/archives/2008/08/13/eye_on_dubai_uae_snohetta_set_free.php

 

^there was a special on that design somewhere on TV land.....maybe in a PBS special?

I remember the same thing, but thought it was a Modern Marvels show - but I could be way off.

I remember the same thing, but thought it was a Modern Marvels show - but I could be way off.

 

That was my original thought too, but I think it was documentary like. I remember architects going through the RFP phase and what not. Or maybe I'm mixing up Dubai with that other city in UAE....

i saw this in a pub yesterday afternoon and happened to have my camera. i hope he is in the construction industry!  :laugh:

 

 

i saw balducci's, the original gourmet food grocery store from brooklyn, is opening it's next shop in a new dubai mall with plans for more:

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/10/AR2008081001989.html

Developer: Dubai Tower at 'new record height'

 

Mon Sep 1, 8:54 AM ET

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates - The developer of a Dubai skyscraper set to become the world's tallest building says the rising tower now stands at a "new record height" of 2,257 feet.

 

Emaar Properties says the skyscraper — known as Burj Dubai — now has "more than 160 stories." Its exterior is almost done and work has started on the interior.

 

The company's Monday statement gave no other details. The silvery steel-and-glass building's final height is a secret.

 

Last summer, the developer announced the building surpassed Taiwan's Taipei 101 which has dominated the global skyline at 1,667 feet since 2004.

 

In the four years of construction, Emaar twice postponed the skyscraper's finish, now slated for September 2009.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080901/ap_on_re_mi_ea/dubai_tallest_building&printer=1;_ylt=AlzdgOFLUAOC.3xjbN3cm7UUewgF

 

 

Cincinnati makes its mark on Dubai?

 

Macy’s to open Bloomingdale’s in Dubai

Business Courier of Cincinnati

Monday, September 22, 2008 - 9:02 AM EDT

 

Macy’s Inc. is taking its first step overseas with two Bloomingdale’s stores in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. 

 

The retailer will open the stores in the planned Dubai Mall, in partnership with UAE-based Al Tayer Group LLC, according to a news release.  The mall, one of the world's largest shopping centers, is expected to open late this year...

 

 

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/09/22/daily1.html?surround=lfn&brthrs=1

 

Jeez, we can't even get a Bloomingdales in Cincinnati, Macy's HOMETOWN!

Jeez, we can't even get a Bloomingdales in Cincinnati, Macy's HOMETOWN!

 

I don't think Cinci needs or can support a Bloomies.

say it ain't so  :laugh:  from today's nytimes:

 

 

Boomtown Feels Effects of a Global Crisis

By ROBERT F. WORTH

Published: October 4, 2008

 

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/10/05/world/05dubai-600.jpg

 

A visitor at the new Atlantis resort in Dubai, where rooms cost as much as $25,000 a night. Now, some expensive projects under construction may be in jeopardy.

 

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — On the surface, this glittering Arabian boomtown seems immune to the financial crisis plaguing the global economy.

 

Feverish speculation in Dubai is yielding to apprehension.

 

The skyline still bristles with cranes — an estimated 20 percent of the world’s total — and the papers are full of ads promoting spectacular new building projects. On Sept. 24, tourists from around the world flocked to the opening of Atlantis, a gargantuan, pink, $1.5 billion resort hotel built on an artificial, palm-shaped island. There was no shortage of people willing to pay as much as $25,000 a night for a room  :-o , to gaze at the sharks and rays in a vast glass-lined aquarium in the lobby and to dine at marquee restaurants like Nobu and Brasserie Rostang...

 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/world/middleeast/05dubai.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Dubai aims to surpass own tower

Monday, October 6, 2008 - 3:08 AM

 

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) -- As the world's tallest building nears completion in Dubai, the government said yesterday that it is embarking on an even more ambitious skyscraper that will soar more than a half-mile.

 

That's almost six times the height of the LeVeque Tower in Columbus...

 

 

http://www.dispatch.com/wwwexportcontent/sites/dispatch/images/oct/1006_tower_aa_10-06-08_A3_D3BH8QH.jpg

 

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/national_world/stories/2008/10/06/dubai_tower_1006.ART_ART_10-06-08_A3_ONBH98R.html?sid=101

 

It looks like a CD changer.

One day, theres going to be a quake and all those buildings are going to go down like dominoes!

:evil:

I'm sure London said the same thing about New York in 1932.

I'm sure London said the same thing about New York in 1932.

 

Honestly, I wish some of these glass towers would fall over.  Like that crap at 110/Lenox.  Just save my office, the prewar stuff and the brownstones.

^ But wait there's still more...

 

New supertall commissions announced by Smith and Gill for Dubai, including mega-towers, worth $15 billion

Originally posted: October 6, 2008

Chicago Tribune, The Skyline Blog by Blair Kamin

 

Against a backdrop of nose-diving world markets, it sounds like a comic book fantasy:  Three closely-bunched, mega-skyscrapers would shoot in the sky, connected by skybridges and grand arches.  A tower of light would knife into the sky between the buildings.  Canal boats would glide underneath.

 

Crazy? Perhaps. But this is Dubai in the United Arab Emirates, already home to artificial palm-shaped islands and the world’s tallest structure.  There, a developer on Sunday made public plans for an even-taller, mixed-use skyscraper, one that that would rise to height of roughly 3281 feet—easily taller than two Sears Towers stacked on end...

 

 

The four projects are:

--1 Dubai (pictured below)

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/theskyline/images/2008/10/06/1dubai.jpg

 

--1 Park Avenue (pictured below)

 

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/theskyline/images/2008/10/06/1_park_avenue_low_res.jpg

 

--Park Gate (pictured below)

 

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/theskyline/images/2008/10/06/parkgate_2.jpg

 

--Meraas Tower (not pictured)

 

Read more at http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/theskyline/2008/10/smith-and-gill.html

 

^ woah, that's crazy. what's going to fill up all that?!!  :-o

 

a few renderings of the rather stupid looking nakheel tower-to-be  :laugh:

 

 

 

Eye on Dubai: World's New Tallest Tower Gets Wet

Monday, October 6, 2008, by Joey

 

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/3276/2919785614_3e6e38e43f_o.jpg

 

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/3240/2919856902_6357348e3b_o.jpg 

 

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/3038/2919785418_31ff2e0ace_o.jpg

 

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/3047/2919785550_268c04f29b_o.jpg

 

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/3068/2919838632_f7f6bafa86_o.jpg

 

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/3265/2918940287_56f4ff3c69_o.jpg

 

In advance of the massive real estate/development conference Cityscape Dubai 2008, desert megadeveloper Nakheel teased a "grand announcement" that would show "how Islamic elements are inspiring Dubai's future." Design blog Dezeen has the reveal, and it's a massive mixed-use development called Nakheel Harbour & Tower, the centerpiece of which is a skyscraper designed by architecture firm Woods Bagot...

 

· Nakheel Harbour & Tower by Woods Bagot [Dezeen]

· Nakheel Harbour & Tower Press Release [Nakheel]

 

http://curbed.com/archives/2008/10/06/eye_on_dubai_worlds_new_tallest_tower_gets_wet.php?o=5

 

Eaton would have plenty of room for their campus over there--- ironically ---that and when you have to make models for models. Who's going to occupy all this added space???

Burj Dubai in about May:

 

http://www.e-architect.co.uk/dubai/jpgs/burj_dubai_edelman220508_1.jpg

--1 Park Avenue (pictured below), another mixed-use tower that would rise about 1,800 feet, its undulating form evoking Dubai’s heritage of pearl trading.

 

Um, right. That's exactly what I was thinking. ::)

If the tall tower is inspired by the Alhambra in spain, thank God my apartment building (named the Alhambra after inspiration) doesn't look like that lol.  CD changer is a nice characterization Chris.

 

1 Dubai looks okay.  For a mega complex it, sure beats the RenCen.  Although it looks like a glass powerplant smokestacks complete with utility scaffolding in between and the opening at the bottom for exhaust intake.

 

I've never liked the whole "inspired by" fluff, unless it's the literal replication of details comprising an entirely new structure.  For example, I think it's silly the Chicago spire was inspired by a campfire made by native Americans.  A lie! You were taking a dump, and came up with a spirally design because you thought it looked cool.  The source of inspiration is entirely irrelevant.  I'm glad in architecture school we were asked to stay away from these types of "inspirations" and strive to be contextual and original, yet innovative and bold.  I don't think New Dubai has to worry about being contextual since alot of everything is less than a decade old, and the historic districts are located much further north, but you see the same architects trying to pull this b.s. in the U.S. and half the time it comes out looking awful.  "My design is inspired by the pre-settlement vegetation of Manhattan"

 

BTW, is that Emaar's headquarters in the foreground of the photo above or just one of their properties they are marketing.  I would have expected their offices to be in a more signature building.

 

 

For example, I think it's silly the Chicago spire was inspired by a campfire made by native Americans.

 

 

Probably more like, "I was inspired by the way the word 'inspire' looked as I was having flashbacks from some super-duper peyote out in the desert."

Tameer to develop world's largest LED screen in new project

 

 

Staff Report

Published: October 06, 2008, 14:33

 

Dubai: UAE development company Tameer Holding will develop the world’s largest LED screen to be embedded on an intended commercial tower in the Majan district of Dubailand, the company announced on Monday.

 

Termed ‘Podium’, the development will be a world first, boasting a 33-storey high LED media facade that will be visible from a distance of 1.5 kilometres...

 

 

http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Real_Estate_Property/10250190.html

^ wow. hey give'm what they deserve on the led screen, giant sized american apparel and abercrombie & fitch ads!  infidels! :laugh:

 

more on it:

http://www.zawya.com/printstory.cfm?storyid=ZAWYA20081006094434&l=094400081006

could it be? some sort of unimaginable financial troubles in dubai?

 

 

Dubai May Need Help From Abu Dhabi to Fund Borrowing (Update2)

 

By Matthew Brown

 

Oct. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Dubai may need help from Abu Dhabi and the United Arab Emirates government to finance a surge in borrowing that paid for the world's tallest tower, palm tree- shaped man-made islands and stakes in banks worldwide.

 

more:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=a4sAgqSD_LIA

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?pid=avimage&iid=iUqkkVhYp0sM

nvestors check their stocks while on the floor at the Dubai Financial Market, at the Dubai World Trade Centre in Dubai on Oct. 6, 2008. Photographer: Charles Crowell/Bloomberg News

 

Better their gov't finance their development, which would pour some of that money into U.S. engineering firms that they will need rather than UAE using it to swallow up some of our corporations while the market is vulnerable.

^good point

OMG, I can't imagine what Dubai is going to look like in 100 years.  That entire city of ridiculous architecture is built from an economy based on one dying commodity.  What the hell is going to happen after the oil party ends?  I'm thinking it's going to be the same disaster that hits every city based off of a sole industry...I'm thinking Detroit...but this place has insanely tall, lopsided, spinning towers.  God knows what will happen when they're left abandoned.  There is no way in HELL Dubai can support the infrastructure it's building.  This whole thread terrifies me.

I don't think even their government can bail them out

OMG, I can't imagine what Dubai is going to look like in 100 years. That entire city of ridiculous architecture is built from an economy based on one dying commodity. What the hell is going to happen after the oil party ends? I'm thinking it's going to be the same disaster that hits every city based off of a sole industry...I'm thinking Detroit...but this place has insanely tall, lopsided, spinning towers. God knows what will happen when they're left abandoned. There is no way in HELL Dubai can support the infrastructure it's building. This whole thread terrifies me.

 

What scares me is that in countries like UAE (nearby Abu Dhabi) they pool together oil revenues and form these hedge funds that inject large amounts of money into big corporations like Citigroup and Morgan Stanley when they need it the most. That could give them a lot of political leverage. Since the companies have raised such a large amount of capital all of a sudden, investors are more confident in the company and stock prices rise, meaning these wealth funds in the middle east, including UAE make very quick returns on investment. At the rate these sovereign wealth funds are growing, my guess is that they'll have plenty of capital to be diversified by the time their oil runs out. I could be wrong but I think they're already working on diversifying Dubai's economy. It seems useful for the world to have a city like Dubai in the middle east that is cosmopolitan, politically stable and neutral, and offering a lot of amenities. I think Dubai could be really successful in the future depending on how proactive their government is, but again I could be wrong.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/165400

 

Doubts About Dubai

Will the global credit crunch finally put an end to the emirate's building boom?

 

By Kevin Peraino

 

Crisis moves to Gulf Arab nations

Kuwait moves to prop up bank after losses on Gulf stock exchanges.

CNNMoney, October 26, 2008

 

KUWAIT CITY (AP) -- Kuwait moved Sunday to prop up the country's second-largest commercial bank and scrambled to protect other depositors in a sobering day of reckoning for the oil-rich Arab Gulf, which had hoped to emerge largely unscathed from the global financial crisis.

 

The central bank's decision to halt trading in Gulf Bank shares because of high derivatives losses triggered shock waves across the region's bourses. Key stock indices sustained hits of between 3.5 to almost 9 percent, before moderately paring losses after the bank announced it was considering widespread deposit guarantees...

 

http://money.cnn.com/?postversion=2008102613

 

Jeez, we can't even get a Bloomingdales in Cincinnati, Macy's HOMETOWN!

 

I don't think Cinci needs or can support a Bloomies.

 

Thanks....................dick.

Isn't Bloomingdales part of Federated?

Isn't Bloomingdales part of Federated?

 

Yes, Federated changed its name from Federated to Macy's about a year or so ago.  They are the same thing.  Cincy owns them all.  :evil:

Are there residential neighborhoods in Dubai?  And if so, what do they look like?

^ good question, i was curious too. i think there is an "old dubai" area where from looking at google i see there are traditional souks and some older buildings we would all be familiar with. most of the new stuff is in a "new dubai" development region.

 

history info

http://www.skidubai.com/dubai/history/

 

here are some pics i found:

 

http://www.skidubai.com/aceimages/skidubai/dubai-old-photo.jpg 

 

http://www.dubaitravels.net/photos/dubai_history.jpg

 

http://www.skidubai.com/aceimages/skidubai/dubai-70-photo.jpg

 

http://www.skidubai.com/aceimages/skidubai/dubai-90-photo.jpg 

 

http://bp1.blogger.com/_Hq0IJdSo9-4/R7wacIiHvxI/AAAAAAAAAtM/8-tGwJneJDA/s400/Al+Faheidi+Street+b.jpg

 

http://www.thatsdubai.com/dubai-images/model-old-dubai.jpg 

 

http://www.thatsdubai.com/dubai-images/dubai-buildings.jpg

 

http://www.beverlyhomesdevelopers.com/dubai-projects-photos/old-town-dubai.jpg

The economy seems to have been driven by construction and the mere momentum of growth with a concentration on high rise, luxury condominiums. Notice, even with all of this construction, there are no trucks allowed during the morning rush hour.

 

I just wanted to put out from earlier in the thread that trucks are prohibited ALL DAY.

 

 

"6:00AM to 10PM"

from curbed blog:

 

Eye on Dubai

 

Tuesday, November 11, 2008, by Joey

 

 

Here's how you know the real estate market is just fine in Dubai (really, solid as a rock): a developer has reportedly made an offer to Paris Hilton to construct a pair of buildings called Paris Hilton Towers. You see? Doesn't this move of non-desperation prove that in no way is Dubai a crumbling empire built on sand with Monopoly money? [uAE Property Trends]

 

more here:

http://www.uaepropertytrends.com/ptrends/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=3314

 

Another Burj tower article.  Still, an interesting London perspective on the engineering of it...

 

Burj Tower: the world's tallest cloud buster

November 18, 2008

From The Times, Tom Dyckhoff

 

When you stand under the Burj Tower it doesn't look that tall at all. Bizarre. Alone on the flat desert landscape of Dubai, apart from the generic glitzy towers of the Sheikh Zayed Road, it seems slightly abstract, with nothing for your eye to compare it with. It could be 250m. It could be 305m. Or 750m. Who knows? Skyscraper internet chat rooms are ablaze with speculation about its final height. For the most famous fact about the Burj - apart from that it's the first piece of architecture to be both the tallest building and man-made structure in the world - is that its final height is a closely guarded secret until it opens next June, for fear of some rival stealing its thunder with an extra bucket of quick-drying concrete.

 

As if. Because nothing else comes even close. Burj, still under construction, is in another league. This is literally a step change in the future of skyscrapers. Welcome to the world's first superscraper...

 

 

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/architecture_and_design/article5174196.ece