May 1, 200718 yr the estimated travel time from the kaufman building to findlay market is 50 seconds. I just walked it in 1:28. I''m not good with arbitrary sub-neighborhood district boundaries. It's the same problem you have with phases. You get distracted. Focus, man.
January 28, 200817 yr Here are pictures of the 7 remaining buildings from the 19th century Christian Moerlein Brewery in OTR. Barrel House - built 1870 (1910 Elm Street) Bottling Plant - built 1895 (Elm & Henry Streets) Warehouse - built 1870 (Elm & Dunlap Streets) Residence (built 1870) and Office (built 1878, horizontal expansion in 1904) - 2017/2019 Elm Street Malthouse (built 1873) - 2025 Elm Street Ice House (built ?) - Henry & Race
January 28, 200817 yr For the most part those look to be still in excellent condition...hopefully the looks aren't deceiving.
January 28, 200817 yr speaking of Christian Moerlien.... I was home this weekend and had the opportunity to pick up some Christian Moerlien Emancipator doppel bock. I highly recommend it. It might be better than the OTR Ale. It's a shame it is a seasonal beer.
January 28, 200817 yr ^ Rando, most of them are in good shape. Barrel House - in excellent shape inside and out (was last used as the KD Lamp building, some industrial detritus left on the interior, but some cool details such as tin ceilings and ornate stairs are left) Bottling Plant - same as barrel house Warehouse - actually this was the stables, currently used as a refrigerated warehouse mostly. Residence - great shape inside and out, some fantastic original details like the bathroom remain. Office - shell/facade only, except for the original safe on the second floor. Malthouse - haven't been inside this one, but from what I hear it's solid. Ice House - good shape, used for storage. the walls are several feet thick in places. *Look for the Prohibition Resistance Tour on Bockfest weekend, the Moerlein complex will be included on the tour (only going inside the residence, though). We will be going into the bowels of the Kaufmann Brewery, though. I'll post the details soon on the events page.
January 28, 200817 yr speaking of Christian Moerlien.... I was home this weekend and had the opportunity to pick up some Christian Moerlien Emancipator doppel bock. I highly recommend it. It might be better than the OTR Ale. It's a shame it is a seasonal beer. It is good! There is a ceremonial tapping at Pavillion on Thursday night. Greg also has a new beer he'll be introducing at Bockfest, which will also have a limited supply of Hudy Bock available. mmmm.
January 28, 200817 yr We will be going into the bowels of the Kaufmann Brewery, though. I'll post the details soon on the events page. Great info, mcmicken. Are the bowels of the Kaufman Brewery underneath Vine Street?
January 28, 200817 yr Mostly underneath the building, about 40' down. There are tunnels underneath the street linking them to other buildings, though. Just to clarify, this is the Kauffmann Brewery which is the Guildhaus now. However the Kauffmann Building has similar basements.
January 28, 200817 yr Office - shell/facade only, except for the original safe on the second floor. Holly and I were going to purchase this before we decided on Mulberry. The upstairs front right room had the nicest, greenest grass I had ever seen growing indoors. It actually looked like it had been mowed. Roof was shot, but the safe's are amazing. Karen Domine had redone the residence next door. I believe they store items for tall stacks inside of the ice house. Mostly underneath the building, about 40' down. There are tunnels underneath the street linking them to other buildings, though. Just to clarify, this is the Kauffmann Brewery which is the Guildhaus now. However the Kauffmann Building has similar basements Isn't the Hussman building built on Kauffman storage rooms, or was that a different brewery?
January 31, 200817 yr Here is a shot of the Clyffside Brewery (which I think was originally called Mohawk Brewery) taken a few days ago. The building is on McMicken and Stonewall. Now, here is the same building, sometime after 1933: The residence to the right was owned by the brewery and used by the owner. It was razed when the brewery was expanded. The name "Felsenbrau", visible on the side of the building, means "aged in the hills";. This brewery, like the Jackson Brewery just a block away, had tunnels going through the hills that were used for storing and aging the beer.
January 31, 200817 yr Isn't the Hussman building built on Kauffman storage rooms, or was that a different brewery? The Hussman building was originally part of the the Kauffman brewery complex. The Hamer Street side has a really nice facade.
January 31, 200817 yr I got an idea. Contact the producer of the history channels "Tunnels of underworld" or something like that and have them do a show on Cincinnati's tunnels including the subway, breweries, Deer Creek tunnel, underground railroad, etc. I know I would watch it !!
January 31, 200817 yr I believe it was also the Red Top Brewery (aka Wunderbrau Brewing Company, 1954-55) Address: 1747 Central Avenue Opened: 1863 (pre-Prohibition John Hauck Brewing Company) Modern Origin: Red Top Malt Company, beginning in 1904 Purchased Clyffside Brewing Company for use as second plant, 1945 Closed: 1955 Primary Brands: Red Top Beer/Ale, Barbarossa Beer, Wunderbrau Beer
January 31, 200817 yr ^ The Hamilton Brewery was started in 1845 on the site by Johan George Sohn and George Klotter. It was also known as the Klotter Sohn and Company (1853), William S Sohn Brewing Company (1900), Mohawk Brewing Company (1907), Clyffside Brewing Company (1933), and finally the Red Top Brewing Company (1945). Interesting trivia: The last beer commercially brewed in Over-the-Rhine was at this location in September 27, 1957.
January 31, 200817 yr I swear it was in my OTR bathtub in late 2007. Any word on what Duane is planning to do now with the building or is he still pushing the condos?
January 31, 200817 yr Let's all speak in cryptic code, hinting at things and never clarifying. It makes me feel like a spy.
January 31, 200817 yr Let's all speak in cryptic code, hinting at things and never clarifying. It makes me feel like a spy. :laugh: Glad to know that I'm not the only confused one around here.
January 31, 200817 yr 11.5 actually and only on his left foot. Duane Donohoo owns the Clyffside building and I am only asking if he has made any headway in developing the building...or am I? Well yes, that is all I was asking.
February 1, 200817 yr One more set of "now and then" brewery pictures. Next is a picture of the Ice House for Christian Moerlein (now with "Apex Furniture" painted on it: Below is a picture of the Christian Moerlein Brewery complex in the early 1900's. The Ice House can be seen in the top right corner. Below the Ice House is the Bottling Plant which still stands today on Elm Street, just South of Henry. In the top left corner, you can see the top of the Bellevue Incline (now Bellevue Park). To the right of the incline, there was a University Hospital building. There are stories about med students waiving dead bodies at the incline's passengers through the windows!
February 2, 200817 yr Duane Donohoo owns the Clyffside building and I am only asking if he has made any headway in developing the building...or am I? Well yes, that is all I was asking. And I can't say anything as I'm working with Duane on the project.
February 3, 200817 yr Duane Donohoo owns the Clyffside building and I am only asking if he has made any headway in developing the building...or am I? Well yes, that is all I was asking. And I can't say anything as I'm working with Duane on the project. which is a yes. If anyone ever says "I can't say anything," that is almost always a yes
February 3, 200817 yr which is a yes. If anyone ever says "I can't say anything," that is almost always a yes True but I found a more definitive answer in this part of the sentence.... working with Duane on the project.
February 4, 200817 yr Does anyone know something about what's going on with the Jackson Brewery / Metal Blast Building? I heard that Denny Dellinger (owner of the building) is no longer in Cincinnati.
February 4, 200817 yr ^ Not quite gone yet (soon to be in Dubai), but he does not own the building anymore.
February 4, 200817 yr Dubai? Do you know what he plans on doing there? Did he buy one of those country-shaped islands? And who is the new owner of Metal Blast?
February 4, 200817 yr ^ He's working for Jack Rouse and Associates on a big project there. From my understanding, ownership reverted back to the family of the previous owner (due to foreclosure), who really don't have any plans for it.
February 4, 200817 yr ^ Rando, most of them are in good shape. Barrel House - in excellent shape inside and out (was last used as the KD Lamp building, some industrial detritus left on the interior, but some cool details such as tin ceilings and ornate stairs are left) Bottling Plant - same as barrel house Warehouse - actually this was the stables, currently used as a refrigerated warehouse mostly. Residence - great shape inside and out, some fantastic original details like the bathroom remain. Office - shell/facade only, except for the original safe on the second floor. Malthouse - haven't been inside this one, but from what I hear it's solid. Ice House - good shape, used for storage. the walls are several feet thick in places. *Look for the Prohibition Resistance Tour on Bockfest weekend, the Moerlein complex will be included on the tour (only going inside the residence, though). We will be going into the bowels of the Kaufmann Brewery, though. I'll post the details soon on the events page. I think I remember reading that the owner of Christian Moerlein wants to (eventually) move back into an historic brewery in OTR. I wonder if he will favor some of these old buildings, should that move become a reality, or if there's something in even better shape that would make more sense. This is purely speculative, of course, but I'd love to see Christian Moerlein back in the same buildings that it started in. There's just something right about that.
February 4, 200817 yr Just curious, do you know if it'd be possible to get a tour of the Metal Blast building? Sounds like the owners might not be easy to contact.... thanks! luke
February 4, 200817 yr I think I remember reading that the owner of Christian Moerlein wants to (eventually) move back into an historic brewery in OTR. I wonder if he will favor some of these old buildings, should that move become a reality, or if there's something in even better shape that would make more sense. This is purely speculative, of course, but I'd love to see Christian Moerlein back in the same buildings that it started in. There's just something right about that. Greg Hardman (the owner of Christian Moerlein) has stated publicly that he wants his brewery in OTR. He also sits on the boards of the Brewery District CURC and the OTR Foundation, so he is actively involved down here. Keep an eye on him, he's got great things planned.
February 15, 200817 yr Beer buffs descend into Cincinnati brewery history By Jon Newberry, Cincinnati Business Courier | February 15, 2008 They look merely like industrial buildings, but many Over-the-Rhine sites used to be breweries, complete with caverns. Newberry takes a look. According to the Brewery District's slogan, it's "an entire neighborhood built on beer money," but even at today's escalating prices it's going to take more than beer money to rebuild Over-the-Rhine. Attracting the people and capital needed to make the area the thriving residential and commercial district that Over-the-Rhine once was is what's behind the upcoming Prohibition Resistance Tour on Bockfest weekend (March 7-9). The idea is to get people excited about the neighborhood's storied past, expose them to the unique assets that remain from its 19th century heyday as the heart of Cincinnati's German-American community, and spur them to commit their ideas, money and energy to realize its potential. Read full article here: http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/02/18/story15.html
February 19, 200817 yr This is my first post, "popped my cherry", I guess. One more set of "now and then" brewery pictures. Next is a picture of the Ice House for Christian Moerlein (now with "Apex Furniture" painted on it: Below is a picture of the Christian Moerlein Brewery complex in the early 1900's. The Ice House can be seen in the top right corner. Below the Ice House is the Bottling Plant which still stands today on Elm Street, just South of Henry. In the top left corner, you can see the top of the Bellevue Incline (now Bellevue Park). To the right of the incline, there was a University Hospital building. There are stories about med students waiving dead bodies at the incline's passengers through the windows! Curious to know, what is the status of these buildings today? Who owns them? Are they still standing? Has there been any attempt to restore these buildings to "museum" like qualities. I've been to the Budweiser factory in St. Louis, though these old Christian Morelien and Hudephol factories could never be at the same stature as the buildings in Budweiser, why not recreate the atmosphere that once was in these buildings and area of OTR.
February 19, 200817 yr The Sam Adams Brewery in the West End should spruce up their property and give tours of the facility . A Hudepohl/Schoeling museum would be nice too. I would support Sam Adams more if they do these sorts of things.
February 19, 200817 yr In cincinnati it is illegal to name a street after a living person How long has Fred Shuttlesworth Circle been around?
February 19, 200817 yr I know the information is out there about the Brewery District, but I have no idea where to even begin to look for the info. Can someone lead me in the right direction. Thanks a lot.
February 19, 200817 yr I know the information is out there about the Brewery District, but I have no idea where to even begin to look for the info. Can someone lead me in the right direction. Thanks a lot. This website is a good place to start. Lots of information about the Brewery District's history, and also about some development plans. http://www.otrbrewerydistrict.org/
February 19, 200817 yr In cincinnati it is illegal to name a street after a living person How long has Fred Shuttlesworth Circle been around? Not as long as Pete Rose Way.
February 22, 200817 yr I love the idea of an authentic and vibrant brewery district in OTR. It fits and is something Cincinnati could say is "Only in Cincinnati." EDIT: Does anyone have a better map of the district than this: http://www.otrbrewerydistrict.org/files/BreweryDistrictUrbanPlanLARGE.jpg
February 22, 200817 yr ^I believe that is the only "map plan" drafted so far. I am going to do my Planning Thesis dealing with the brewery district and I have talked to someone about ideas and issues facing the district. This area is laying quietly under the radar and also has many supporters. I'm afraid to say a lot of progress will be based upon the streetcar/light rail and The Banks. We will see.
February 22, 200817 yr I'm afraid to say a lot of progress will be based upon the streetcar/light rail and The Banks. We will see. I would be more concerned with CITYLINK. Streetcar would be a plus for the area for sure. I love the buildings in the brewery district.
February 22, 200817 yr ^ What exactly are you looking for, mapwise? I haven't had a chance to get everything up on the website yet.
February 22, 200817 yr I'm afraid to say a lot of progress will be based upon the streetcar/light rail and The Banks. We will see. I would be more concerned with CITYLINK. Streetcar would be a plus for the area for sure. I love the buildings in the brewery district. And not just CityLink. There are a couple of additional proposed homeless shelter/housing projects proposed for just south on Elm.
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