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Does anyone have any idea when the Schofield building lost its so-called cupola?  Was it there until the 1960s remodeling? I always see it in the photos with the Citizen Building when the latter had its temple front, but I'm wondering if the cupola was only removed with the big remodeling.  It does appear in a 1928 sketch I have.  When I said the Schofield Building may have have had the cupola through much of its history, I was mistaking it for the building at East 4th and Euclid, which I know lost its little appendage quite early on.

I think we discussed earlier that based on the pictures we could find of the building the cupola seems to have disappeared during the depression.
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    Bank signage up. I know it’s probably not our first choice for retail but it will definitely be nice to have an active business here and it also have a nice nighttime presence. It does look like the c

  • Just spoke to someone from CRM, and they are opening a pop up bar in the Schofield called Lake Effect at the corner of East 9th and Euclid. 

  • I spoke to the bartender last night. He said that Lake Effeft as an xmas themed bar will remain open until January 15th. Then it will probably remain open as another bar afterward. If this is this is

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Walking through this project last Friday at Noon with a co-worker who 'kinda' gets the urban/city concept.  East 9th and Euclid were packed with traffic, construction was going on all around us and we were walking under the covered sidewalk from the Schofield project: My co-worker says "I feel like I'm in New York City!"  Looking around and using a little imagination, I was there too...

 

The corner of East 9th/Euclid is going to be something glorious [again].  I love watching this transformation.

^ Yes, it will.  We still need to do something about Huntington, and then we'll be in real good shape. 

I believe "925 Euclid" is the correct name.

 

  • 3 weeks later...

I was down E 9th yesterday and took some pictures of the Schofield building. The beautiful red brick is something else on a sunny day ....

 

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It is taking forever!!!

Go in the City Club building, take an elevator up to about the 8th or 9th floor and look out from the elevator lobby windows. There you will see how much work they are doing inside the Schofield. They are essentially replacing the guts inside a restored facade.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

It is taking forever!!!

 

Don't forget, this project was started then shut down for the span of a year (years?) and only recently was restarted and now has kicked into high gear.  Considering this, I think it's moving along pretty well.  Schofield's developers may well be trying to keep up with the Jones ... as in The 9/Heinen's developers across the street who are rehabbing their corner at warp speed.

its so prominent and such a wonderful treasure i hope it takes a lot longer -- it deserves all the care it seems to be getting. no rushing this one!

Go in the City Club building, take an elevator up to about the 8th or 9th floor and look out from the elevator lobby windows. There you will see how much work they are doing inside the Schofield. They are essentially replacing the guts inside a restored facade.

 

I took your suggestion this afternoon during lunch.  It's incredible to see what's going on inside that building!

 

Go in the City Club building, take an elevator up to about the 8th or 9th floor and look out from the elevator lobby windows. There you will see how much work they are doing inside the Schofield. They are essentially replacing the guts inside a restored facade.

 

 

I took your suggestion this afternoon during lunch.  It's incredible to see what's going on inside that building!

 

 

 

 

Really??? And that's all you have???

 

 

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Go in the City Club building, take an elevator up to about the 8th or 9th floor and look out from the elevator lobby windows. There you will see how much work they are doing inside the Schofield. They are essentially replacing the guts inside a restored facade.

 

 

I took your suggestion this afternoon during lunch.  It's incredible to see what's going on inside that building!

 

 

 

 

Really??? And that's all you have???

 

 

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Sorry about that.  I realized after I left that I should have taken photos.  I'll do better in the future.

I saw this building when I visited Cleveland on Saturday, plus several others being renovated on Euclid (that may have their own threads?), but until I read this thread I had no idea the original facade had been completely hidden. Amazing that such a grand building can be brought back to its former glory.

 

Lots of projects and lots of threads! All in this vicinity.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

lookin' up

 

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Meanwhile, on the backside.... New windows going in, while other windows are getting blocked off.

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 2 weeks later...

The building never looks of the highest quality when one looks down an alley and sees most of the wall is not cleaned when the street facades are.  I believe what's currently the Fifth Street Arcades, and the Old Arcade/Hyatt Regency, had their alley wall bricks cleaned in their respective grand restorations/renovations.  I realize the brick on the Schofield's alley is a different (and obviously was cheaper) type, if that means anything.  Oh well....

 

 

 

Work continues on the Schofield building. (Apologies for the crappy cell phone pics)

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So with all the damaged brickwork that has been removed, and all the concrete placed to fill in the gaps, has any decorative brickwork actually been installed yet?  I haven't noticed any, unless the match is so perfect one couldn't tell.

I couldn't tell at night, but it sure looked pretty good while I waited for a HealthLine bus at 9th.....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The Cleveland Construction website has a completion date of June 2015

 

Pictures taken Saturday. Looking good!

 

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Pictures taken Saturday. Looking good!

 

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Hmm, I see a great spot for the next giant videoboard!

Hmm, I see a great spot for the next giant videoboard!

 

I see a greater spot for new-build housing.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Nothing can bring back the Hippodrome or Richman's menswear, but it sure is a dumb location for a surface lot.

 

I couldn't tell at night, but it sure looked pretty good while I waited for a HealthLine bus at 9th.....

 

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Love how that intersection looks having the Schofield lit up!!!  It's gonna seem like a whole new area with people coming and going in the building!!!

 

Eveuntally combine that with the Breuer Tower and the County building!!!

I've gotten so used to this corner being dead, it will be surreal when these great projects are finished.  And of course, few (if any) UOer has ever seen this version of the Schofield Building ... well, maybe MTS.

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This building is such a stunning, eye catching building.  It really dominates the landscape and draws your eye.  At least mine.  Was googling around and found some of the most stunning high res pictures of some of Clevelands lost architecture treasures including a shot of the City Savings bldg. circa 1905 (City Club) here:

http://www.shorpy.com/node/11184

You can see the edge of the Schofield building in the pic.  In this pic the Schofield would of been 4 years young.  I also recommend checking the high res pics of the Hollenden Hotel circa 1900 and the Williamson bldg. 1905.  Wow.

So they closed East 9th two days ago (Saturday) to bring a crane in and do some rooftop work. Not sure what was done, but here's the visual......

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

HVAC unit ?

that nightshot all lit up, holy crap. that corner has been dead so long at night its like some other city. i know its construction, but its quite a preview too. so nice to see!

HVAC unit ?

 

Old elevator equipment was removed.

  • 3 weeks later...

 

First evidence of 're-ornamentation'...that i've seen anyway

 

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Can't open the photo.  Can it be posted a different way?  I saw the building yesterday and have yet to see brick ornament replacements.

here is a reference to the original detail being duplicated

 

thanks, that helps a lot

 

Can't open the photo.  Can it be posted a different way?  I saw the building yesterday and have yet to see brick ornament replacements.

 

I think somebody needs an intervention

Looking Good!  I assume the brick replacements will be painted to match the original bricks, which I also assume were not painted originally.

Painted?  Yuck.  The new brick doesn't match well?  (I'll have to look.)

From my understanding:

The grey masonry units which are being painted white = anchors for the fiberglass replicas of the original terra cotta ornamentation (darker shade of red than the bricks).  A couple fiberglass cornices at different levels have already been attached.

The black, grey, brown bricks which are interspersed with the red = bricks harvested from other areas of the building which haven't been power washed yet.  Once they finish they will power wash everything and the discontinuities will go away.

The originals probably would have been painted as well. Despite how ornate buildings of this type are, much of their guild-work was actually mass produced, unless specially commissioned. In fact, whole industries were devoted to pumping out scroll work, filigrees, vines, leaves, etc. for building decoration, in much the same way siding is made today. I dunno if this is the case for the Schofield, but it is of the era.

The originals probably would have been painted as well. Despite how ornate buildings of this type are, much of their guild-work was actually mass produced, unless specially commissioned. In fact, whole industries were devoted to pumping out scroll work, filigrees, vines, leaves, etc. for building decoration, in much the same way siding is made today. I dunno if this is the case for the Schofield, but it is of the era.

 

I was under the impression building ornaments were produced on (project) by building basis by local craftsman, but not mass produced then shipped in.

The originals probably would have been painted as well. Despite how ornate buildings of this type are, much of their guild-work was actually mass produced, unless specially commissioned. In fact, whole industries were devoted to pumping out scroll work, filigrees, vines, leaves, etc. for building decoration, in much the same way siding is made today. I dunno if this is the case for the Schofield, but it is of the era.

 

I was under the impression building ornaments were produced on (project) by building basis by local craftsman, but not mass produced then shipped in.

 

For a building like the Schofield, most likely. It's large enough and definitely had the prestige. Certain smaller, more "run-of-the-mill" developments had them shipped in (according to my structures professors). Mass produced designs were restricted to things like starbursts and pinwheel sorts of things. Either way, they'd be painted to match the building (painting to match brick or imitate it reaches back for long periods in history).

 

For designs shipped in, some would still be produced by craftsmen, but not on site. But the Industrial Revolution made building ornaments another subject of efficiency.

 

See also:

http://arc612.wordpress.com/2012/10/05/the-efficiency-of-ornament/

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks zak for  the great info , and also sizzlinbeef

 

 

more changes (just above the banners and in b/t the bottom 2 rows of windoows)

 

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Multiple 'voussoirs' (for lack of a better term) are up now...not just the 1 in the ^^picture above)

 

 

THis midline band cornice has been up for a little while now

 

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I really miss that tower but I will say the new balconies matching those above the cornice are a wonderful restoration I hadn't noticed before.

 

There are balconies?

^They look to be more decorative features than actual walk out balconies.

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