August 20, 200915 yr Nice! Now imagine that entire corner with such a vibrant shade of red :) wow that will make a HUGE difference.
August 20, 200915 yr It'll be nice when/if this building is completely redone. We don't have too many tall, ornate brick buildings downtown. This could be a very nice addition to our architectural portfolio.
August 20, 200915 yr I kind of like how the building gets to be "new" for the third time now. I am not advocating putting facades on out of fashion building styles, its just a neat story, IMHO.
August 20, 200915 yr I was kind of surprised by that orangish-red brick. Hard to imagine that is how the brick looked originally. From seeing the darkness of the brick (pre-cleaning) I was expecting a more maroon. This will look very cool when done - indeed! Anybody know how the inside looks?? Does the building have Brass elevator doors/Marble in places and other amenities that other older buildings downtown have/had? Or perhaps these were replaced with Mirrored elevator doors and brown shag carpeting?? I can see that they are doing a total rip-out on the 2nd floor. Looks like walls and all are being removed.
August 20, 200915 yr If the restoration is faithful to the original, that building (and the corner) are going to be gorgeoius!
August 21, 200915 yr That really is going to be something. And now it will truly look like there are two seperate buildings there, City Club and this one. The old facade made it blend in too much. I truthfully didn;t know they were seperate until they started the removal process.
August 21, 200915 yr I was kind of surprised by that orangish-red brick. Hard to imagine that is how the brick looked originally. From seeing the darkness of the brick (pre-cleaning) I was expecting a more maroon. This will look very cool when done - indeed! Anybody know how the inside looks?? Does the building have Brass elevator doors/Marble in places and other amenities that other older buildings downtown have/had? Or perhaps these were replaced with Mirrored elevator doors and brown shag carpeting?? I can see that they are doing a total rip-out on the 2nd floor. Looks like walls and all are being removed. I remember being in there once before the company that my friend worked for moved.... It wasn't all that grand, cause the elevators and lobby are very tiny. I don't remember them being original either, but perhaps someone else can clarify.
August 21, 200915 yr Mayday: Do you have the before and after pictures for the Grand Arcade? I thought I saw that on a thread a few years back, and my ability with the search function, sucks. I am just brining this up, because it kind of looks like the same color brick, maybe same supplier
August 21, 200915 yr I was hoping they'd keep the soot stained color of brick. Reminds me of Prague except extruded 15 floors.
August 21, 200915 yr It's weird, I'm kinda inclined to agree. Typically, I would be all about cleaning up the facade, and I'm sure it will look great when it's done. But I do kind of perversely like the current color more than the clean area. Maybe it's done in its entirety it'll be a different story.
August 21, 200915 yr If it were a genuine brownstone, I would agree that I like it better than the clean orange brick, but seeing as how it's really just grime I don't. Also, I don't know how they would match the replacement work to the current soot coloring. Also, the building has great detail work, which will stand out more when it is cleaned up and more lightly colored.
August 21, 200915 yr ^That's what I was going to mention... with so much of the restoration work, particuarly the details having to be rebuilt, I think it'd be extremely difficult to replicatethe soot effect / color.
August 21, 200915 yr Agreed. And it would be rather silly even if you could do it. I guess I was surprised walking by it to see the coloring be so strong ... actually very similar to Gospel Press color or Tower Press's.
August 24, 200915 yr The original color - or as close as they can reasonably get to it - will be fine. There are other buildings downtown with similar red brick, or they are painted as such. 700 Prospect, for example (painted?), some bldgs. in the Warehouse District, etc.
August 26, 200915 yr I drove down Euclid yesterday with the sole intent to see how work was progressing on this building, and even though I knew it coming up, I still caught myself saying "whoa! This is awesome!" Here are some pics for everyone else's enjoyment as well. Are those new windows going in on the 6th floor? Also, its great to see the contrast between the classic brick and the hideous covering.
August 26, 200915 yr The reddish color of this building will really liven up this corner! It already has!
August 26, 200915 yr The windows in question above are the old 1960's windows, which will be removed.
August 26, 200915 yr @ lafont - I walked past today and one of the corner panels at the very top right corner is off. There is still 2 more panels but it does shows a nicely curved corner underneath that I can see. Should be nice! On a side note - I read somewhere that this building was slated to be torn down in the 70's for a new "Euclid Tower" building - I'm sure it would of been a freakin 70's horror show of a building. Think goodness that project fell thru. Ever notice how some of the cooler parts of CLE are the one's the politicians and "movers and shakers" have just left alone or just forgotten about for a long time? (ohio city, tremont, warehouse district, even e. 4th - even though this street is a bit over the top for me) These areas evolved and came back to vibrancy without government subsidies to tear down buildings and build some kind of flavor of the year generic building.
August 26, 200915 yr ^You're referring to this - which would have also required demolition of the City Club building - but you're right, so glad that it never materialized: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
August 26, 200915 yr ^^Man even the top of the Hippodrome is in that picture below the rendering :( Thank god it wasn't built indeed! Well we were able to keep two outta three along Euclid... Thanks for the pics cleB!! Can't wait for the corner to continue..thanks for the update, greyrat
August 26, 200915 yr lafont - if you look at the pictures posted above, it's clear that those panels can't be reached with the way they currently have the equipment set up.
August 26, 200915 yr Thanks for finding that pic Mayday. Looking at that 1979 "complex construction" proposed office drawing for E. 9th and Euclid - really, really, really makes me appreciate what is going on with the uncovering and restoration of the Schofield building even more. Wow! CLE could of lost 2 more historic buildings for THAT!! Jeez.
August 27, 200915 yr We did lose 2 historic buildings for that. The hippodrome theatre and the Richman Bros. department store. Brought down by the dishonorable Alvin Krenzler to make way for his modern disgrace masterpiece. Thankfully he was unable to follow through...
August 27, 200915 yr I find it kind of funny that after this restoration the building will be the original color for a lot longer than it was when it was originally built. The level of soot in the Cleveland air in the 1910's had to been intense. Like that it had to be built with bright red brick because anything darker would have looked black in ten years. Mayor how about telling us how you really feel :-D BTW I reread this entire thread this morning. Keep up the good work guys (and handful of girls)!
August 27, 200915 yr The level of soot is indeed insane. It'll be nice to see the cleaned up and restored facade. Just as when the Old Stone Church was cleaned up how nice it was to see the orginal material color. https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
August 27, 200915 yr wow they are really going at the reno work. that is so heartening to see. now i wish i would have had time to be downtown and have a look. so weird that the press called the euclid tower box dramatic over the freakin ornate hippodrome & richman bros buildings...and everyone seems to have went along with it. people must have all lost their aesthetic marbles back then.
August 27, 200915 yr ^Agreed. Tearing down this handsome building all in the name of "progress"... I'm looking forward to seeing the full restoration of this building!
August 27, 200915 yr Thanks for finding that pic Mayday. Looking at that 1979 "complex construction" proposed office drawing for E. 9th and Euclid - really, really, really makes me appreciate what is going on with the uncovering and restoration of the Schofield building even more. Wow! CLE could of lost 2 more historic buildings for THAT!! Jeez. I am sure I am going to be sorry for saying this but if the corners of the proposed tower were curved, I would have liked that design, maybe not for that part of Euclid but somewhere else downtown.
August 27, 200915 yr ^LOL! Somewhere else downtown, preferably on existing surface parking lots? Sure. But at that corner, for this ornate building? No can do.
August 27, 200915 yr So from the rendering picture i can see where the hippodrome theatre was next to the City Club - we currently have a surface parking lot. Real Nice. What vibrant city doesn't need one of those. Was the Richman Bros. department store on Prospect behind the Hippodrome? Where we currently have another parking lot (at least it is mult-level). Tearing down buildings must of been in the city charter.
September 17, 200915 yr Small update on this. I noticed today that the workers have added a section to their lift that will allow them to remove the remaining panels on the corner. I would imagine (if they work like they have been) that they should have the corner totally exposed in a couple of business days.
September 21, 200915 yr ^What is so "new" about it. It was proposed in 1979 and never went anywhere. Agree it has nothing to do with the redevelopment of the current building. My question is, is there anything concrete about what is going in...I know there have been hotel suggestions but are those just board rumors. Will it go back to office or perhaps housing is in the works?
September 21, 200915 yr ^Especially with the available tax credits from the State, which would require apartments for 5 years before conversion to condos. How sweet would that be- condos on E. 9th in a historic building?! Yep, I'm in.
September 21, 200915 yr My question is, is there anything concrete about what is going in...I know there have been hotel suggestions but are those just board rumors. Will it go back to office or perhaps housing is in the works? I think the hotel re-use concept is one "rumor" you can put some faith in.
September 21, 200915 yr My question is, is there anything concrete about what is going in...I know there have been hotel suggestions but are those just board rumors. Will it go back to office or perhaps housing is in the works? Yes, they have a concrete plan for the redevelopment.
September 23, 200915 yr Looks about the same condition as the rest of the building. I guess that is a good thing. I am digging the columns and the keystones over the windows. Thanks Mayor!
September 23, 200915 yr There was but the owner began relocating tennants to other properties they own to make way for the redevelopment. There is still a dental office in there that hasn't moved yet, I think that's the area where the windows are still located on the corner of the building...
September 23, 200915 yr I love these big reveals! I'm always curious to see how badly they have smashed off any kind of building decoration that was in the way of installing the ugly modern skins. When Hamilton County renovated the old Alms and Doepke building in Cincy years ago, I was dissapointed to see the damage when the facing was removed. I was amazed how they were able to make such remarkable replacements with photos and moulds from surviving elements. This looks pretty par for the course. Every now and then you see one where the skin has been placed far away enough from the face of the bulidling that little to no damage has ocurred. Thankfully, this doesnt look any worse than most!
September 24, 200915 yr Hopefully I won't be berated for putting this here. The level of soot in downtown Cleveland has been discussed in this thread , especially how bad it must've been in the first part of last century. And, specifically, how much it changed the color of the Schofield. Here is the Halle building (just down the street) getting a much-needed clean up, ca. 1950 It's amazing.
October 7, 200915 yr Looks like someone forgot to look at the back of the building. What are they doing with this?
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