January 9, 20214 yr On 1/7/2021 at 8:22 PM, jmecklenborg said: About 160 units total. The planning commission packet says the unit count hasn't been finalized yet, and will be somewhere in the range of 175-250 units. Current estimated mix results in 182 total units, but that may change: 8 - studio apartments 90 - 1br apartments 76 - 2br apartments 8 - 3br apartments
January 12, 20214 yr On 1/8/2021 at 9:54 PM, jjakucyk said: It may be the case that windows are not required in bedrooms because this building falls under Chapter 34 for existing buildings, and even more discretion is allowed for historic buildings. The concrete construction type and a fully-automatic sprinkler system may also help, but there's nothing definitive that I could find. I haven't seen Chapter 34 cover egress windows, it only allows a fire escape as second means of egress. I am really curious about how they did this as well.
January 13, 20214 yr $50 million redevelopment in the works for Crosley Building An out-of-town developer is working on a new plan to bring life back to the Crosley Building in Camp Washington. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/01/12/50-million-redevelopment-in-the-works-for-crosley.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 13, 20214 yr My father in law used to have his offices in this building a couple decades ago and told me it was a POS then, the elevator would break down all the time and things would leak getting his stock wet and the landlord never cared so eventually he just left. As far as he knows he was the last (paying) tenant in the building and that was the 90s. I really hope one of these redevelopment actually comes to fruition because without serious investment the building will crumble and it could be a gem. Who knows maybe Biden will come back to town like he did when we redeveloped the American Can Lofts.
January 13, 20214 yr 30 minutes ago, ucgrady said: My father in law used to have his offices in this building a couple decades ago and told me it was a POS then, the elevator would break down all the time and things would leak getting his stock wet and the landlord never cared so eventually he just left. As far as he knows he was the last (paying) tenant in the building and that was the 90s. I really hope one of these redevelopment actually comes to fruition because without serious investment the building will crumble and it could be a gem. Who knows maybe Biden will come back to town like he did when we redeveloped the American Can Lofts. Sounds more like the owner at the time was a POS, the building just needed maintenance and it was probably differed to pull more money from it. The Powell Valves building down the block could be amazing too, but a series of owners who abandoned it and differed maintenance led to roof being left entirely open and water wreaking havoc. Luckily Crosley is concrete, Powell has a wood roof and and partially collapsed and now has monthly fires inside.
January 13, 20214 yr I worked next to Powell, there were not monthly fires. It's an occupied building.
January 13, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Yves Behar said: I worked next to Powell, there were not monthly fires. It's an occupied building. I was refering to the annex building at Colerain and Alabama. it has had several fires recently. Sadly the main Powell Valves is probably going to be torwn down first as they relocate next to the Rhinegeist plant on Spring Grove. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1416267,-84.5387624,3a,75y,320.94h,96.85t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2gjodtZz064H2IRFEdYsFg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D2gjodtZz064H2IRFEdYsFg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D123.61743%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 Edited January 13, 20214 yr by SleepyLeroy
January 17, 20214 yr $50M redevelopment of Crosley Building lands key approval The planned $50 million conversion of the Crosley Building to artists’ lofts from vacant manufacturing space received a key approval Friday morning. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/01/16/50m-redevelopment-of-crosley-building-lands-key.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 2, 20214 yr In the latest planning commission packet I saw something very interesting. They are proposing eliminating minimum off street parking regulations in order to further densify the neighborhood and create an Urban Parking Overlay District. Page 72 of the packet. https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/jun-4-2021-packet/ Edited June 2, 20214 yr by stashua123
June 2, 20214 yr Interesting, I wonder if this will be a competitive advantage for Camp Washington in attracting investment. I suspect so. Edited June 2, 20214 yr by thebillshark www.cincinnatiideas.com
June 4, 20214 yr Planning commission nixes developer parking requirements in another Cincinnati neighborhood The Cincinnati Planning Commission voted unanimously Friday to eliminate parking requirements for developers in most of Camp Washington, the fourth neighborhood to see some removal of regulations that some developers say are an impediment to growth. “Camp Washington is one of our oldest, historic neighborhoods,” said James Weaver, a city planning staff member. “The existing parking requirements were not intended for historic, dense urban areas.” The commission staff recommended the measure, which would strike parking requirements from non-manufacturing areas of the neighborhood. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/06/04/camp-washington-parking.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 7, 20214 yr On 6/4/2021 at 4:17 PM, ColDayMan said: Planning commission nixes developer parking requirements in another Cincinnati neighborhood Excited to see this. Hopefully, this brings some exciting projects that now that they don't half the property as a parking lot.
December 3, 20213 yr I wonder if this involves straightening Central or reconfiguring the intersection to create more developable land. Also I wish Straight street wasn't so steep because the subway tunnel surfaces near here and it would be the perfect place to go up to UC and connect the huge Deaconess development on the top of the hill and all this developable land at the bottom of the hill and around Camp Washington.
December 3, 20213 yr Wonder how this is going to be laid out. Are they going to cut into the hill and have multiple entrances? Also will the subway section there be demo'd for this construction? Not sure why I care that a tunnel with no use gets demolished, but.. Edited December 3, 20213 yr by RealAdamP
December 3, 20213 yr Just now, RealAdamP said: Also will the subway section there be demo'd for this construction? Not sure why I care that a tunnel with no use gets demolished.. The Rapid Transit was daylighted in this section, where 71 is now.
December 3, 20213 yr 25 minutes ago, ucgrady said: I wonder if this involves straightening Central or reconfiguring the intersection to create more developable land. Also I wish Straight street wasn't so steep because the subway tunnel surfaces near here and it would be the perfect place to go up to UC and connect the huge Deaconess development on the top of the hill and all this developable land at the bottom of the hill and around Camp Washington. It would be nice to straighten Central Parkway so that it ran directly adjacent to I-75, and just abandon Hallmar entirely. If they build without realigning the street, they'll end up with some funky geometry. As mentioned, there aren't any subway tunnels here - they daylighted about 500 feet south of this area. The other set of remaining portals is about 1000 feet north of here. The Marshall Avenue "subway station" was above grade:
December 3, 20213 yr Yes, absolutely, realign it all. That 5-point intersection is horrendously unorthodox, confusing and unnecessary. Proposing to build 3 separate buildings makes me concerned that they are not going to do that but Elevar has a great portfolio so I guess we'll see.
December 3, 20213 yr 37 minutes ago, Ram23 said: It would be nice to straighten Central Parkway so that it ran directly adjacent to I-75 I think the bend is kind of nice, especially if the buildings fill the lots. How fast is Central Pkwy here?
December 3, 20213 yr 14 minutes ago, zsnyder said: I think the bend is kind of nice, especially if the buildings fill the lots. How fast is Central Pkwy here? 40mph+. I think the speed limit is 30 to 35mph, but as is Cincinnati Police Department tradition, there is no enforcement on the road. 21 minutes ago, Dev said: Yes, absolutely, realign it all. That 5-point intersection is horrendously unorthodox, confusing and unnecessary. Proposing to build 3 separate buildings makes me concerned that they are not going to do that but Elevar has a great portfolio so I guess we'll see. I like the 5 point intersection. I feel like it's uniqueness is a nice touch and it's not massive like the one at the top of the hill with ravine and McMillian.
December 6, 20213 yr I'll be curious to hear what is proposed for the 1001 Mashall Ave project. Looking further north along W McMicken, it appears that the Sansalone Company (based at 1008 Marshall Ave) has been acquiring properties, most of which are vacant properties. Hopefully this project at 1001 Marshall Ave will motivate the Sansalone family to do something with their properties. Shown in blue below are properties owned by affiliates of the Sansalone family, with offices at 1008 Marshall Ave:
December 6, 20213 yr What makes this little pocket of space along a high speed road between the hillside and 75 so appealing, especially for residential?
December 6, 20213 yr 26 minutes ago, zsnyder said: What makes this little pocket of space along a high speed road between the hillside and 75 so appealing, especially for residential? Proximity to all downtown and uptown neighborhoods plus Northside. And mature trees www.cincinnatiideas.com
December 6, 20213 yr There's opportunity to build high density infill in these locations that isn't going to get NIMBYed by the neighborhood like it would closer to the core. And yet it's a straight shot to downtown via transit or protected bike lane.
December 7, 20213 yr On 12/3/2021 at 3:40 PM, Ram23 said: It would be nice to straighten Central Parkway so that it ran directly adjacent to I-75, and just abandon Hallmar entirely. If they build without realigning the street, they'll end up with some funky geometry. As mentioned, there aren't any subway tunnels here - they daylighted about 500 feet south of this area. The other set of remaining portals is about 1000 feet north of here. The Marshall Avenue "subway station" was above grade: There is however a pedestrian tunnel that goes diagonally across Central at Marshall. It was sealed off in the 70's and in the 80's or 90's the demoed the railings that used to surround the opening. It was similar to the ones In Fort Thomas.
December 7, 20213 yr 15 hours ago, zsnyder said: What makes this little pocket of space along a high speed road between the hillside and 75 so appealing, especially for residential? 20 minute walk up to the bars and restaurants on McMillan. Half hour walk, 15 minute bike ride, or 5 minute bus ride to Rhinegeist. Five minute walk to the Camp Washington business district, which is starting to see new businesses open up and will probably start taking off for development in the next few years.
December 7, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, DEPACincy said: 20 minute walk up to the bars and restaurants on McMillan. Half hour walk, 15 minute bike ride, or 5 minute bus ride to Rhinegeist. Five minute walk to the Camp Washington business district, which is starting to see new businesses open up and will probably start taking off for development in the next few years. 130-150 dwelling units with 252 surface parking spots is concerning that they are investing in auto-oriented infrastructure, not walkability, bikeability or transit use.
December 7, 20213 yr 21 hours ago, jwulsin said: Looking further north along W McMicken, it appears that the Sansalone Company (based at 1008 Marshall Ave) has been acquiring properties, most of which are vacant properties. Hopefully this project at 1001 Marshall Ave will motivate the Sansalone family to do something with their properties. Shown in blue below are properties owned by affiliates of the Sansalone family, with offices at 1008 Marshall Ave In my haste, I didn't even bother to check the ownership of the properties for the proposed development... and they are also owned by LLCs that seem affiliated with the Sansalone family and 1008 Marshall Ave. John Sansalone was a civil engineer and surveyor who had an office 1008 Marshall Ave since 1969. Anthony Sansalone is one of his eight children, and Anthony is the statutory agent for the LLCs that own the properties in this area. So... for better or worse, the success of this project will almost certainly determine what happens with the properties they own in the area. Here's an updated map showing the properties owned by the family:
December 7, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, Dev said: 130-150 dwelling units with 252 surface parking spots is concerning that they are investing in auto-oriented infrastructure, not walkability, bikeability or transit use. Yep, you're definitely right about the parking. Maybe that'll come down in review. But either way I'm happy to see some density added on Central Parkway.
December 7, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, DEPACincy said: 20 minute walk up to the bars and restaurants on McMillan. Half hour walk, 15 minute bike ride, or 5 minute bus ride to Rhinegeist. Five minute walk to the Camp Washington business district, which is starting to see new businesses open up and will probably start taking off for development in the next few years. That's a 20 minute walk for the ~20% of the population that is in good enough shape to walk up Straight Street on a regular basis.
December 7, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, Ram23 said: That's a 20 minute walk for the ~20% of the population that is in good enough shape to walk up Straight Street on a regular basis. Sure. But they can take the bus and get there in under 15 minutes.
December 8, 20213 yr Proposed site plan: Some info from today's public engagement session: Developer will be Fountain Residential Partners Hallmar would be vacated to make room for buildings Tenative agreement with UC to have shuttle service to campus Working with DOTE to slow traffic on Central Parkway and extend bike lanes north on Central Parkway Aiming to open in summer of 2024 404 beds total, each with their own bath 252 parking spaces Clubhouse and pool near corner of Marshall/McMicken Each bedroom would have its own lease Targeting a price point that would be more affordable than comparable offerings immediately adjacent to UC Trees along Central Parkway would be preserved Cluster of trees at McMicken/Straight would be preserved A new retaining wall will be constructed adjacent to McMicken Developer mentioned that they looked at including the lang at the NE corner of Marshall/McMicken, but decided not to. Said that Sansalone family still might develop parcels further north along McMicken. Quote from developer: "Looking at the long term of the area... other development that could be done on other parcels" In response to request to add structured/underground parking, "One day soon, maybe we won't need so many cars and we could build on the surface parking lots." Planning Department's webpage on the project. PDF of proposed planned development.
December 8, 20213 yr Just now, CincyIntheKnow said: very... uh... suburban Very... but at least it gives the illusion of density bordering Central Pkwy... Sandwiching the surface lot between the apartments and 75 at least keeps it hidden from Central...
December 9, 20213 yr Since this is fully focused on student housing, I'm wondering how they'll sell it to students. Straight street isn't friendly to pedestrians (it gets extremely icy in the winter), and is exhausting to go up or down. Are they going to have UC expand their shuttle route to there?
December 9, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, RealAdamP said: Since this is fully focused on student housing, I'm wondering how they'll sell it to students. Straight street isn't friendly to pedestrians (it gets extremely icy in the winter), and is exhausting to go up or down. Are they going to have UC expand their shuttle route to there? Yes - the developers said (as I noted above) that they're working with UC to provide shuttle service.
December 9, 20213 yr 7 minutes ago, jwulsin said: Yes - the developers said (as I noted above) that they're working with UC to provide shuttle service. I don't know how I missed that. 😕 I guess that answers that. Wonder what the route will look like. I also think that if there's a UC stop there then the building renovations going on at the bottom of straight street will become more focused on getting students now. Edited December 9, 20213 yr by RealAdamP I'm stupid
March 10, 20223 yr Crosley building redevelopment team to add Camp Washington property, will need incentives By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier Mar 10, 2022 The developer planning to rehabilitate the Crosley Building plans to acquire an adjacent property, which will allow it to add more apartment units in the historic building in Camp Washington at 1333 Arlington St. TWG, an Indianapolis real estate company focused on historic preservation with affordable housing, plans to acquire Reliable Castings’ plant at 3401 Colerain Ave. and demolish it. The move will allow it to put more parking outside the Crosley Building and for the developer to add 200 apartments, instead of the originally conceived 180. Reliable Castings is moving. TWG also anticipates needing public incentives for the roughly $100 million project, said Travis Vencel, development director for TWG. The exact value of the needed incentives was not immediately clear. MORE
March 11, 20223 yr Crosley building redevelopment team to add Camp Washington property, will need incentives The developer planning to rehabilitate the Crosley Building plans to acquire an adjacent property, which will allow it to add more apartment units in the historic building in Camp Washington at 1333 Arlington St. TWG, an Indianapolis real estate company focused on historic preservation with affordable housing, plans to acquire Reliable Castings’ plant at 3401 Colerain Ave. and demolish it. The move will allow it to put more parking outside the Crosley Building and for the developer to add 200 apartments, instead of the originally conceived 180. Reliable Castings is moving. TWG also anticipates needing public incentives for the roughly $100 million project, said Travis Vencel, development director for TWG. The exact value of the needed incentives was not immediately clear. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/03/10/crosley-redevelopment.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 11, 20223 yr ^ cinci's version of detroit's fisher body plant rehab -- that would be awesome to see happen.
March 16, 20223 yr Cincinnati City Council OKs major apartment project in Camp Washington, CUF Cincinnati City Council approved a needed zoning change Wednesday for a 136-unit apartment project planned by a Dallas developer that will be located in both Camp Washington and Clifton Heights-University Heights-Fairview. Fountain Residential Partners plans to build three, four-story apartment buildings, along with 252 parking spaces, a club house, pool, dog park and common space at 1001 Marshall Ave. The development, which would be built on a mostly vacant 7.7-acre site between McMicken Avenue and Interstate 75 that is bisected by Central Parkway, will be marketed toward local college and medical students, faculty and staff as well as professionals. Fountain Residential Partners purchased the property from Anthony Sansalone. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/03/16/cincinnati-city-council-oks-major-apartment-projec.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 17, 20223 yr 16 hours ago, zsnyder said: why do we keep seeing two story renderings for a four story project? They probably are doing it to avoid the anti-density folks from protesting the project, just a thought lol
March 17, 20223 yr Genius. People don't read anyway so maybe all renderings should show 2 story buildings and then describe the actual building.
March 17, 20223 yr 21 hours ago, zsnyder said: why do we keep seeing two story renderings for a four story project? That rendering is of the clubhouse, which will be two stories.
June 17, 20222 yr $100 million plan to convert Crosley Building to apartments lands state environmental cleanup funds By Nikki Kingery – Projects editor, Cincinnati Business Courier Jun 17, 2022 A planned $100 million conversion of the former headquarters of Crosley Radio Corp. in Camp Washington and an adjacent building into apartments has landed a grant from the state of Ohio for environmental cleanup. MORE
November 8, 20222 yr Re: pedestrian safety - there used to be an underpass beneath Central Parkway immediately north of the Marshall Ave. overpass. The staircase entrances were in the same style as Central Parkway's railings. I don't recall it ever being open and was completely removed around 1990. https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/11/04/college-hill-cuf-camp-washington-projects-ok.html
January 16, 20232 yr On 12/8/2021 at 4:37 PM, jwulsin said: Proposed site plan: Some info from today's public engagement session: Developer will be Fountain Residential Partners Hallmar would be vacated to make room for buildings Tenative agreement with UC to have shuttle service to campus Working with DOTE to slow traffic on Central Parkway and extend bike lanes north on Central Parkway Aiming to open in summer of 2024 404 beds total, each with their own bath 252 parking spaces Clubhouse and pool near corner of Marshall/McMicken Each bedroom would have its own lease Targeting a price point that would be more affordable than comparable offerings immediately adjacent to UC Trees along Central Parkway would be preserved Cluster of trees at McMicken/Straight would be preserved A new retaining wall will be constructed adjacent to McMicken Developer mentioned that they looked at including the lang at the NE corner of Marshall/McMicken, but decided not to. Said that Sansalone family still might develop parcels further north along McMicken. Quote from developer: "Looking at the long term of the area... other development that could be done on other parcels" In response to request to add structured/underground parking, "One day soon, maybe we won't need so many cars and we could build on the surface parking lots." Planning Department's webpage on the project. PDF of proposed planned development. The site is fenced off (both sides of Central Parkway). This triangular building is being demolished right now: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1318581,-84.5302075,3a,48.7y,224.93h,89.67t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shEURKhOX23dHLx3FB0lhIQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DhEURKhOX23dHLx3FB0lhIQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D344.3888%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
January 27, 20232 yr TWG Development asks for more time on $100M Crosley Building project The developer that plans to overhaul the massive Crosley Building in Camp Washington has asked the city for more time to go forward with the project after running into several issues. Last week, Cincinnati Planning Commission approved an extension of its approval for the concept plan and development program at the former Samuel Hannaford-designed factory at 1329-1333 Arlington St., a six-parcel site. A final development plan from Indianapolis-based TWG Development was due on Feb. 3. The planned development for the site was approved in 2021. “[O]ur project timeline no longer aligns with this date,” Ryan Kelly, vice president of tax credit development for the company, wrote to the city. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2023/01/27/crosley-building-developers-ask-for-more-time.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 10, 20232 yr Joseph House sets groundbreaking for new $8.5M Camp Washington HQ A nearly 30-year-old Cincinnati nonprofit is ready to start construction on its new $8.5 million, 23,587-square-foot headquarters, a building its calling “New Horizons.” Joseph House, which provides treatment and recovery services for veterans, will host a groundbreaking Tuesday at its future home at 3304 Colerain Ave. in Camp Washington. The new three-story treatment facility, Joseph House New Horizons, will offer more inclusive features for its clients, including those suffering from traumatic brain injuries, PTSD and more. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2023/04/10/joseph-house-groundbreaking-camp-washington.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
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