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  • I went out yesterday to photograph the current Powell Valves building before it's demolished. It's a shame they can't at least preserve the Spring Grove facade.  

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    $100 million plan to convert Crosley Building to apartments lands state environmental cleanup funds By Nikki Kingery  –  Projects editor, Cincinnati Business Courier Jun 17, 2022  

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    Just found this very cool picture of the Powell Valve Company.   

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Port eyes building speculative multistory industrial building in Camp Washington

 

The Port of Greater Cincinnati Development Authority is considering whether to do something it has never done before: Develop a speculative, multistory industrial building in Camp Washington to show that such a project can be successful at a time when manufacturers prefer horizontal structures.

 

Historically, Camp Washington has been a manufacturing hub for the region. In the 1940s and 1950s, companies in the neighborhood generated around 40% of the city’s earnings tax revenue. But deindustrialization has taken a toll on the neighborhood and the region overall, with Hamilton County losing 100,000 manufacturing jobs since 1967.

 

One of the Port’s missions is to bring more manufacturing jobs to the region by helping redevelop vacant or underutilized industrial land. For example, Cynthia Booth’s new personal protective equipment manufacturer, Emerge Manufacturing, will be located at the former Cincinnati Gardens site, which the Port acquired with the goal of putting a manufacturer there.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2023/05/10/port-industrial-building-camp-washington.html

 

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5 hours ago, SleepyLeroy said:

Here's a link to the building they site as an example. A good way to cut down on sprawl and/or to keep places thinking they need to move to open land to expand in town. https://www.nelsonworldwide.com/project/prologis-georgetown-crossroads/

 

 

They might be planning something on a block between Spring Grove and Colerain, which would take advantage of the natural slope.  The lower-level docks would be on Spring Grove and the upper-level docks would face Colerain. 

 

 

20 hours ago, SleepyLeroy said:

Here's a link to the building they site as an example. A good way to cut down on sprawl and/or to keep places thinking they need to move to open land to expand in town. https://www.nelsonworldwide.com/project/prologis-georgetown-crossroads/

 

For example. This Northside business just moved/expanded in Blue Ash :(.  I loved living near the Camp knowing that there was 24-7 activity and work all around me. I'm (temporarly) in an inner suburb now and the silence after dark is unsettling. https://doranmfg.com/

21 hours ago, SleepyLeroy said:

Here's a link to the building they site as an example. A good way to cut down on sprawl and/or to keep places thinking they need to move to open land to expand in town. https://www.nelsonworldwide.com/project/prologis-georgetown-crossroads/

 

 

This makes me wonder if 3CDC/Port wants the land occupied by the UPS sorting facility:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1013818,-84.5229719,755m/data=!3m1!1e3

 

They'd be able to build a convention hall or arena over there for much less money than building it elevated above I-75.   

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

 

This makes me wonder if 3CDC/Port wants the land occupied by the UPS sorting facility:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1013818,-84.5229719,755m/data=!3m1!1e3

 

They'd be able to build a convention hall or arena over there for much less money than building it elevated above I-75.   

 

 

 

Possible, but they call this out for 'manufacturing' in particular. Not sure that is what I'd call UPS. Sure is a better use for that land though especially if it connected to downtown more directly, same for the rest of Queensgate. Someday when i have time i'd love to figure out how many individual homes and residents were 'removed' so that we could have all those car dealers (now just FORD) right next to town. Probably several hundred homes. 

9 minutes ago, SleepyLeroy said:

Possible, but they call this out for 'manufacturing' in particular. Not sure that is what I'd call UPS. Sure is a better use for that land though especially if it connected to downtown more directly, same for the rest of Queensgate. Someday when i have time i'd love to figure out how many individual homes and residents were 'removed' so that we could have all those car dealers (now just FORD) right next to town. Probably several hundred homes. 

 

All of those property owners were upside-down on their loans.  Property owners were walking away and the banks were going to fail.  That's what slum clearance was - a way to rescue the banks from bad loans.  

 

 

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So how close is this pre-existing billboard to the new apartments?  From the highway it looks like new residents could dry their clothes on it:

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Still looks awfully close...

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Looks like about ten feet of clearance.  No, they won't be able to reach out and touch it, but the light will definitely bleed in all night long:

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^There may be a number of drunken nights where a resident may try and jump to the billboard or use it for a billboard party if they are not careful. A little too close for comfort if you ask me.

12 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

^There may be a number of drunken nights where a resident may try and jump to the billboard or use it for a billboard party if they are not careful. A little too close for comfort if you ask me.

 

Yeah honestly I consider it a pretty risky situation, both for the apartment and billboard owners, given that they're marketing these units to UC students. It's not uncommon to see UC students partying on their roofs near campus. 

1 minute ago, Lazarus said:

 

Yeah honestly I consider it a pretty risky situation, both for the apartment and billboard owners, given that they're marketing these units to UC students. It's not uncommon to see UC students partying on their roofs near campus. 

I would think the billboard owner would not have liability since they were there first. The apartment owner would have the duty to make sure that the attractive nuisance is removed or minimized. 

 

I would think that the light from the billboard ought to be pretty bright at night around there. WOuld hate to live in one of those units and see the light from the billboard in my room each night.

 

If I am a betting man, they are probably trying to negotiate with the billboard company and the state to relocate the billboard. THe biggest challenge is that you cant build a new billboard without a lot of people signing off on it

6 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

 

If I am a betting man, they are probably trying to negotiate with the billboard company and the state to relocate the billboard. THe biggest challenge is that you cant build a new billboard without a lot of people signing off on it

 

My memory is somehow spot-on...per google Earth history's function, I can see the that building that was here (with a billboard on top of it) was demo'd around 2005 and the current billboard went up around 2006.

 

Oddly, the billboard just changed hands in 2021:

https://wedge1.hcauditor.org/view/re/1890019012400/2022/summary

 

Here is the building that used to stand here, complete with its bootleg rooftop billboard:

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2 hours ago, Lazarus said:

So how close is this pre-existing billboard to the new apartments?  From the highway it looks like new residents could dry their clothes on it:

 

Looking at ownership records, it appears that the Dallas-based developer of the student apartments also bought the billboard property. My guess (based on nothing other than what I'd do if I owned both properties), is that the developer won't want the billboard operating once they're ready for residents to move it, but they are happy to continue getting revenue from the billboard while construction is ongoing.

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17 hours ago, jwulsin said:

 

Looking at ownership records, it appears that the Dallas-based developer of the student apartments also bought the billboard property. My guess (based on nothing other than what I'd do if I owned both properties), is that the developer won't want the billboard operating once they're ready for residents to move it, but they are happy to continue getting revenue from the billboard while construction is ongoing.

The problem can be is that the billboards typically have a long term lease that predates the sales of the property and supersedes the ownership control. I have an acquaintance that had a house in the West End that they bought with a billboard on top of it and there wasn't anything they could do about it even.

Billboards are typically ground leases so the owner of the land will get rent from the billboard company on a monthly basis even when the billboard may not have an advertiser on the property.

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Cincinnati Port aims to acquire Crosley Building in Camp Washington

By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier

Dec 1, 2023

 

The Port of Greater Cincinnati Development Authority wants to buy the massive former Crosley manufacturing building in Camp Washington, with Hamilton County commissioners approving funding for the acquisition at their meeting on Thursday, Nov. 30.

 

The county approved $1 million for the purchase of the Crosley Building from a $2 million pot of money it has set aside to prepare sites for redevelopment. The county administration and the commissioners did not disclose that the money was for the 333,000-square-foot building at 1329-1333 Arlington St., but the Business Courier has learned from sources that the Port will buy that historic structure.

 

About $900,000 will be used to acquire the Crosley Building, while another $100,000 will be used to stabilize it. The total acquisition cost is $2.5 million, while it will cost $1.65 million to stabilize the building, according to a county description of the plan. The estimated economic impact is 350 jobs and $22 million in annual impact, the county documents say. The city also is expected to kick in funding.

 

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Port of Greater Cincinnati Development Authority votes to buy Crosley building

By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier

Jan 19, 2024

 

The Port of Greater Cincinnati Development Authority has voted to purchase one of the city’s most iconic vacant, former manufacturing buildings.

 

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This is very bittersweet. It's good that the building is likely to be salvaged, but it's a bummer TWG's proposal couldn't move forward, it was so good.

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U.S. Chili building enters next phase in $3 million redevelopment plan in Camp Washington

By Christian LeDuc – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

May 20, 2024

Updated May 20, 2024 7:00am EDT

 

A multimillion-dollar redevelopment project in the heart of Camp Washington has just entered a new phase.

 

The U.S. Chili building, located at 2963 Colerain Ave., is owned by Camp Washington's nonprofit neighborhood group, and the team is now working with OnSite Retail Group in hopes of finding a new tenant for the historic space.

 

The building was purchased for $250,000 in March 2019 after the owners of Uncle Steve’s Chili decided to close up shop. According to Sidney Prigge, executive director for the Camp Washington Urban Revitalization Corp. (formerly known as the Camp Washington Community Board prior to a rebrand), the original goal was to sell the property.

 

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shame this intersection was killed by road widening.

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Crazy amount of smoke coming off a scrap yard fire this past Saturday:

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You could see it from Mt. Airy Forest:

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  • 7 months later...

Cincinnati real estate broker begins development career with Camp Washington rehab

 

A Cincinnati real estate broker is getting started on the development side of the business with the aim of redeveloping multiple properties in Camp Washington.

 

The first, a 145-year-old, three-story building at 2900 Colerain Ave., didn’t even have stairs when Stash Geleszinski acquired it in July 2023.

 

Two grueling years later, Geleszinski, managing director at Cushman & Wakefield’s Cincinnati multifamily advisory group, is in the home stretch. He expects leasing to begin soon for the building’s six one-bedroom apartments.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2025/03/26/gelezinski-camp-washington-apartments-binskis-bar.html

 

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I used to live on this block. What a wild time it was. But also such a wonderful community.  It was some of the best and worst years of my life all rolled into one. I'm so happy to see people bringing more to the community. I went into this building once and it was in bad shape.

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