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12 hours ago, Miami-Erie said:

Anyone know the status of this?


Lots of workers on site for the past couple months, I believe gutting the building etc.

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On 7/15/2024 at 8:37 AM, 646empire said:


Lots of workers on site for the past couple months, I believe gutting the building etc.

 

Thanks for the update! Do we know if there's a permitted plan for the renovation yet? Or even a final concept plan?

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Former Terrace Plaza Hotel lands $9.9M in funding for planned transformation

By Tom Demeropolis – Editor, Cincinnati Business Courier

Oct 15, 2024

 

The plan to transform the former Terrace Plaza Hotel in downtown Cincinnati just received a financial shot in the arm.

 

The Ohio Department of Development on Oct. 15 awarded nearly $10 million in brownfield remediation and building demolition funding to the Hamilton County Land Reutilization Corp. (also known as the Landbank) for cleanup and remediation of Terraces, Birkla Investment Group’s plan to give a second life to the building at 15 W. Sixth St.

 

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Great news! I wonder how many apartments this will have?

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On 10/15/2024 at 12:29 PM, The_Cincinnati_Kid said:

Former Terrace Plaza Hotel lands $9.9M in funding for planned transformation

By Tom Demeropolis – Editor, Cincinnati Business Courier

Oct 15, 2024

 

The plan to transform the former Terrace Plaza Hotel in downtown Cincinnati just received a financial shot in the arm.

 

The Ohio Department of Development on Oct. 15 awarded nearly $10 million in brownfield remediation and building demolition funding to the Hamilton County Land Reutilization Corp. (also known as the Landbank) for cleanup and remediation of Terraces, Birkla Investment Group’s plan to give a second life to the building at 15 W. Sixth St.

 

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Any update on this development?

On 2/10/2025 at 3:06 PM, Miami-Erie said:

 

Any update on this development?


Not really, crews are on site everyday. I’m thinking there are still several months of demo and stripping the building down  before any build out can begin. This building was is horrible shape inside.

The project design went back out for RFP, so I'm not sure if the Reztark design as shown is locked in with a new AOR taking over, or if the developer is trying to redesign the project and value engineer or update the scope  based on what has been found during the demo phase. Either way I'd be pissed if I was Reztark since they have done the work up until now and their design is being shopped around town. 

I think Reztark has every reason to be pissed that the project is being shopped around again, at the same time... how many firms in the city have done free work for various parties trying to figure out this building and not awarded a contract?

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1 minute ago, Chas Wiederhold said:

I think Reztark has every reason to be pissed that the project is being shopped around again, at the same time... how many firms in the city have done free work for various parties trying to figure out this building and not awarded a contract?


Am I missing something? Are you saying Reztark wasnt paid for the work it did? Developers can change architects/planners as much as they want as long as the firms are paid for the work they have completed for a client.

Just now, 646empire said:


Am I missing something? Are you saying Reztark wasnt paid for the work it did? Developers can change architects/planners as much as they want as long as the firms are paid for the work they have completed for a client.

No no no. Not at all, just saying that this project has had a lot of attention from a lot of different firms leading up to Reztark's publicized scheme which (news to me) has been sent back out for an RFP. I would be interested to know how many RFPs have been requested for this building since the hotel closed. RFPs typically come out of marketing budgets and the requesting org does not pay anyone who submits an RFP; and only sometimes are winning RFPs giving a commission of any sort for previous work other than a contract for the work to be done.

The project missed out on the TMUD award funds I believe there ask was for 8 5 million.I would guess some value engineering is being planned 

I'll believe this building actually gets rehabbed when the construction starts.  There have been so many plans floated over the years and none of them seem to ever happen. 

9 minutes ago, Cincy513 said:

I'll believe this building actually gets rehabbed when the construction starts.  There have been so many plans floated over the years and none of them seem to ever happen. 

The demolition grant is funded from the state and have crews working inside the building.After that we shall see the total project cost including demo is over $100 million it is not a small scale renovation.

 

 

 

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Birkla Investment Group applied for $8 million for the $101 million redevelopment of the former Terrace Plaza Hotel. The project will convert the building into a multifamily apartment community with ground-floor commercial spaces. The windowless base of the building, formerly a department store, will become public parking for the property and the city, according to the application.

When complete, the development will produce 180 apartments, 15,000 square feet of retail space, 30,000 square feet of restaurant space and 500 indoor parking spaces

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I hope it happens.  But I've seen multiple demos/remediations/stabilizations/cleanups of this building start and then the actual redevelopment never happens.  This is a hugely important building in the middle of downtown.  Renovating it would a huge win for the city.  But like I said, I'll believe it happens when the work actually starts.  

1 hour ago, Cincy513 said:

 hugely important 

Really depends on what gets put back into the building.

6 hours ago, Cincy513 said:

I've seen multiple demos/remediations/stabilizations/cleanups of this building start and then the actual redevelopment never happens.


Of course the redevelopment is the biggie but this building is so big and the location so visible that even the cleanup and stabilization is also exciting to see. It was rotting away.

5 hours ago, zsnyder said:

Really depends on what gets put back into the building.

Anything would be an improvement over the abandoned, falling apart building its been for decades.  This and the empty old hotel at Vine and 9th are in desperate need of renovation.  They're complete eyesores to our downtown. 

1 hour ago, Cincy513 said:

Anything would be an improvement over the abandoned, falling apart building its been for decades.  This and the empty old hotel at Vine and 9th are in desperate need of renovation.  They're complete eyesores to our downtown. 

 

In the 90s, there were like a dozen large vacant buildings.  The Power Building, Krippendorf, etc.  Oddly the Garfield Suites was one of the better-looking buildings at that time.

8 hours ago, Lazarus said:

 

In the 90s, there were like a dozen large vacant buildings.  The Power Building, Krippendorf, etc.  Oddly the Garfield Suites was one of the better-looking buildings at that time.

Glad the city has made progress from that many in the 90s.  I remember Garfield Suites being a pretty mediocre but open hotel in the early 2010s.  I had friends stay at it when our company had our Christmas party downtown.  They even had some street level retail. 

 

That block is just such a bad dead area between the empty hotel plus the park and library being filled with homeless people.  Just very unfriendly to pedestrians when walking between OTR and the fountain district. 

57 minutes ago, Cincy513 said:

Glad the city has made progress from that many in the 90s.  I remember Garfield Suites being a pretty mediocre but open hotel in the early 2010s.  I had friends stay at it when our company had our Christmas party downtown.  They even had some street level retail. 

 

That block is just such a bad dead area between the empty hotel plus the park and library being filled with homeless people.  Just very unfriendly to pedestrians when walking between OTR and the fountain district. 

 

I think that the Court street development and Library plaza renovations are helping push the stretch of Vine between fountain square and OTR in the right direction.

But it would definitely be great if Garfield could have a street presence again, and for something (anything!) to happen at the parking lot blocks between 7th and 8th.

 

Maybe the newer residential at the Macy's and Guild buildings can spur this??

3cdc has a plan for both sides of Vine north of 7th.

1 hour ago, CincyIntheKnow said:

3cdc has a plan for both sides of Vine north of 7th.

all three lots?

On 2/13/2025 at 12:53 PM, CincyIntheKnow said:

3cdc has a plan for both sides of Vine north of 7th.

Is it public?

No, but the have already announced part of it (where Jean Ro Table used to be)

21 minutes ago, CincyIntheKnow said:

No, but the have already announced part of it (where Jean Ro Table used to be)

Is this a new plan, because there was one pre-covid but i noticed the buildings are marked for sale again.

I don't have any new info, just what I heard in 2020/2021. There is a chance things have changed, but I would be surprised if 3cdc abandoned the plans completely.

Those two buildings (actually looks like it's one building on google maps) should just be knocked down.  It's only one story tall and a complete eyesore right now.  Put something there with at least 3 - 4 floors, preferably more.  

A year or so ago, 3CDC released a rendering of the new mixed-use building they plan to build on the lot next to Hustler.

On 2/14/2025 at 4:29 PM, Cincy513 said:

Those two buildings (actually looks like it's one building on google maps) should just be knocked down.  It's only one story tall and a complete eyesore right now.  Put something there with at least 3 - 4 floors, preferably more.  

 
I agree definitely a perfect demo candidate 

On 2/14/2025 at 4:29 PM, Cincy513 said:

Those two buildings (actually looks like it's one building on google maps) should just be knocked down.  It's only one story tall and a complete eyesore right now.  Put something there with at least 3 - 4 floors, preferably more.  

Mostly I agree... but the one feature of the existing building that seems neat is the ramp up to the rooftop, which I believe was designed to support cars. Perhaps it's not structurally strong enough to support live loads for a rooftop terrace, but I've always though it could be a neat rooftop patio. I can imagine the ramp being lit nicely, creating a fun approach to the upper level. That being said, it might be more financially sensible to tear it down and start over.  

In 1968, it was branded as the "Olympic Auto Park", probably the same ownership as the current Olympic Garage on 7th:

 

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For some reason all the thin brick covering the Jean-Robert's Table building was removed exposing the structure beneath to the elements. That seems like a weird and time wasting activity if the plan was to just bulldoze the whole thing, so not sure what the thought process is there. 

Owner of former Terrace Plaza Hotel makes progress on demolition, but development plan still unclear

 

Interior demolition work on the former Terrace Plaza Hotel, a Modernist icon in downtown Cincinnati, is proceeding after a monthslong work stoppage while its owner awaited the outcome of a state grant.

 

The city of Cincinnati Department of Community and Economic Development expects to begin working with the building’s owner Tony Birkla, of Indianapolis-based Birkla Investment Group, on an incentive agreement for the project, though those talks have not yet begun, and a timeline for them is unknown.

 

Some uncertainty also remains, both with Birkla and on the part of the city, about what the final project will look like.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2025/02/28/terrace-plaza-downtown-conversion-demolition-plan.html

 

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Not much to see but lots of construction crews on site doing demo etc.

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Just tear it down and build something that actually looks good.

39 minutes ago, anusthemenace said:

Just tear it down and build something that actually looks good.

It’ll look great if the final design is similar to the most recent proposal.

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5 hours ago, anusthemenace said:

Just tear it down and build something that actually looks good.

Or maybe an animated 3D Billboard like in Times Square. It would be a great addition to that corner in particular. A blank wall with no windows becomes a major focal point downtown. A missing link between the Art and Theatre District, The Fountain, the Art Mural on 6th between Vine and Walnut. It makes a city that is known for its murals step up the game.

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