Just a thought as I re-read this thread a bit:  The thread started off with the Place for Us plans in the Warehouse District and then moved to the plans on Detroit.  Should this thread continue to track a potential Place for Us project, or should it now just become the Detroit-Superior Lofts thread?

^^The design for that bldg looks like the little brother to the Avenue District's signature high-rise. I like it.

oh it looks like it belongs near the cleveland clinic...

Except half of it has a ground-floor sidewalk presence. Any Cleveland Clinic building would have ZERO sidewalk uses for the public.

It's not the most attractive looking thing, but at least it's got that cafe space on the ground level, which is cool...

the renovated building next door looks great btw.  they were working on it this morning as well.  I just hope the scale of this project, in terms of floors, doesn't dwarf the existing structures too much. 

 

nonetheless, I would love to see something like this on the parking lot up the street as well.  but I will take the positives one at a time.

Don't have that much of a problem with it although the street level on the Detroit side looks a little cold.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE           CONTACT: Genna Petrolla

June 14, 2007             Marketing Director

          216/619-9696

DETROIT SUPERIOR LOFTS PROJECT WILL BRING NEW FOR-SALE CONDOMINIUMS TO OHIO CITY

 

Condominiums Offer Stunning Lake and Downtown Views from Upper Floors

 

Cleveland, Ohio, June 14th, 2007 – Developers announced that a new seven-story condominium building will be built at the southwest corner of Detroit Avenue and West 28th St. This new structure will add to the revitalization of the Ohio City neighborhood, already a success story for residential redevelopment.

 

“We are excited about the Detroit Superior Lofts project, which will place 50+ condominiums at the gateway to Ohio City and downtown Cleveland,” said developer Tom Gillespie. “This project takes advantage of the momentum created by other condo developments in both downtown and Ohio City.”

 

The Detroit Superior Lofts project is a seven-story building being developed by Tom Gillespie of TEG Properties, Inc. The design is being completed by Lowenstein-Durante Architects. Progressive Urban Real Estate will handle sales and marketing coordination.

 

The development site is adjacent to the former Painters Union building, which is being redeveloped into market-rate apartments by Gillespie, as well as several nightclubs and refurbished apartment buildings. The site is close to the West Side Market and the Fries and Schuele Condominiums, and one block away from the Detroit-Superior Viaduct and the highly successful Stonebridge project.

 

“The Detroit Superior Lofts project fills a gap in the streetscape of Detroit Avenue, and also a gap in the marketplace,” said Keith Brown, President of Progressive Urban Real Estate. “There is a great deal of demand for loft-style condos in Ohio City, and not enough products to satisfy that demand. We are excited about this project – it will change the face of Detroit Avenue.”

 

Project amenities include one and two bedroom lofts, as well as two-story townhome units, with first-floor parking. The first level also contains a lobby and retail space that will complement existing neighborhood retail. Unit amenities include private balconies on every unit, a common, 10,000 square foot, green roof garden over the garage, steel and concrete construction, and modern finishes. Interior features include open floor plans, nine foot ceiling heights, hardwood floors, granite kitchen countertops, and wood cabinetry. Unit owners will also receive 15 year 100% tax abatement, and 1.5% reduced rate financing from Key Bank. Prices for the units start at $150,000 and extend into the mid $400’s.

 

For more information about Progressive Urban Real Estate, Northeast Ohio’s premier sales company for contemporary urban living, as well as the Detroit-Superior Lofts project contact Genna Petrolla, Marketing Director at 216/619-9696 or [email protected].

 

 

 

“The Detroit Superior Lofts project fills a gap in the streetscape of Detroit Avenue, and also a gap in the marketplace,” said Keith Brown, President of Progressive Urban Real Estate. “There is a great deal of demand for loft-style condos in Ohio City, and not enough products to satisfy that demand. We are excited about this project – it will change the face of Detroit Avenue.”

 

best thing i've read about Cleveland housing!  Detroit is a great avenue for mixed use, mid to high rise housing.

 

Go Ohio City and Urban progressive.

 

Leechilcote - welcome to Urbanohio and thanks for posting!

Hi leechilcote.

See you Saturday.

 

**************************

 

If and when the building across the street (the market and Jamestown building) are demo'd for the West Shoreway rebuild, there will be an incredible opportunity for someone to make this intersection very high density. I wonder TEG is hip to that.

Welcome, Lee. Don't be a stranger here.

Hello Mr. Chilcote!

 

Great release...great for the neighborhood and a great sign that the housing market (particularly in the OC) is doing very well.

 

Two questions/requests:

 

1) Both this release and another prior article state that this development is on the SW corner of W. 28th and Detroit.  My understanding is that it is on the SE corner.  Is that correct?

 

2) Tell us more about this "green" roof and about any other elements of high performance building or sustainable design slated for this project. 

 

How will a 7 story building fit into the area?  How tall is the knitting mills?

It'll look tiny after Detroit Ave gets lined with 20- to 30-story condo towers.

Do you know something you're not telling us again? :wink:

How will a 7 story building fit into the area?  How tall is the knitting mills?

 

It'll fit right in!  There are a few 4-story buildings nearby.  The knitting mills are 3-4 stories and the Detroit-Superior Bridge and Route 2 are significant masses in the neighborhood.  Just across the Route 2 overpass is a 15-story (give or take) public housing high-rise.  A relatively small building with a few extra stories than its immediate neighbors should look nice!

 

I think 3231 has some recent photos from this area...

riding past this in the morning, it was hard to picture how so much building could fit onto that lot.  perhaps the photo is a little misleading.  the building sort of pops out at you...stupid turret.  any idea if the footprint goes through to the parallel street, church?

I don't know where I saw it, but I believe the floor plan is for only about half the site... so not all the way to Church.  CMHA is supposed to be building stuff there, but I haven't heard a word about it in months!

The developer owns all the land between Detroit and Church. Maybe he's just holding onto the Church fronting parcel for a second development. Auditor site shows that TEG bought the Church parcel from CMHA in December 2006.

that's news to me!  i guess I need to catch up with my buddies at the housing authority!

The developer owns all the land between Detroit and Church. Maybe he's just holding onto the Church fronting parcel for a second development. Auditor site shows that TEG bought the Church parcel from CMHA in December 2006.

So I wonder where the promised units will go? as a side note that is a big chunk of land! I am looking forward to having more neighbors in my little northern area of the burg. Too bad Halite was not able to hold on.

West Side Sun:

 

Condos to change Detroit Lofts being planned for corner of West 28th Street

Thursday, June 21, 2007

By Ken Prendergast

West Side Sun News

 

It's hard to keep an attractive development site down.

 

Developer Tom Gillespie of TEG Properties Inc. announced he is seeking to build a seven-story, 50-unit condominium building called Detroit-Superior Lofts on the southwest corner of West 28th Street and Detroit Avenue.

 

The site is next to another development by Gillespie the former Painters Union building that is getting converted into market-rate apartments. There are also several other apartment conversions nearby, plus new nightclubs and restaurants. The site is just across the Detroit-Superior Veterans Memorial Bridge from downtown.

 

"This project takes advantage of the momentum created by other condo development in both downtown and Ohio City," Gillespie said in a written statement. He said the mid-rise condo building would have good views of downtown and the lake.

 

Sales are being handled by Progressive Urban Real Estate. Construction on the project will begin when pre-sales reach a certain point, typically 40 percent to 60 percent of a project's proposed housing units. However, Gillespie's goal is to open the Detroit-Superior Lofts in late 2008 or early 2009.

 

Proposed earlier for the same site was a smaller, five-story building that was marketed as gay-friendly housing. A Place for Us Development Inc. reportedly could not make the project work financially and will seek another location.

 

Lee Chilcote, PURE's new-construction project manager, said condos at the Detroit-Superior Lofts will be available in one- and two-bedroom loft configurations, as well as two-story townhouse units with first-floor parking. Sale prices range from about $150,000 for the one-bedroom units to above $400,000 for the townhouses, he said.

 

PURE's Ohio City office is located just up the street, at 4001 Detroit Ave.

 

Another Detroit Avenue condo development was announced in March. One Charter Place would offer 55 units for sale in new six- and four-story buildings proposed to be built at 3107 Detroit Ave. Construction on that project could start as early as this year.

 

"The Detroit-Superior Lofts fills a gap in the streetscape of Detroit Avenue, and also a gap in the marketplace," PURE President Keith Brown said. "There is a great deal of demand for loft-style condos in Ohio City, and not enough products to satisfy that demand. We are excited about this project it will change the face of Detroit Avenue."

Geez, 40% to 60% presales? I thought that 20% was the general number.  Well, looks like this project will take some time to gain momentum.

That is a high number, but a little good marketing and design can go a long way!  Let's hope one or both of these can get some serious attention by fall.

I merely did a Google search to see what pre-sales numbers are needed for a project to go forward. I saw several references falling in the 40-60 percent range. Slap me for being lazy.

:box:  That's the closest i could come to a slap.  But well done on the research anyway  :-)

floor plans

http://tegproperties.com/DSLmain.htm

75 parking spaces for 50 units? Is 1.5 spaces per unit the developer's preference or city code?

 

While I'm happy to see the retail space at the corner (better than what Stonebridge has been doing thus far!!), the rest of the ground floor devoted to parking might restrict sidewalk activity. Unless of course, there will be other basic retail, bodegas, cafes and/or restaurants in the immediate vicinity. Anyone know?

From the rendering, it looks like the entire first floor would be retail. From the floor plans (which are for when this building was to be 5 floors), it looks like there will be a bunch of parking on the first floor.

 

Currently, the Detroit corridor does not need much more retail. But with the proposed influx of new housing units, there will be a need for basic services on Detroit.

I think the 1.5 parking spaces per unit is more about demand that city code. after all I think there are places downtown that do not have spaces included with the unit (Erie Lofts for one).  I am ashamed to say a lot of people that live w/in a mile of the office drive everyday.

^A few years back I lived in the Warehouse District and worked on Playhouse Square.  I thought I would walk to work everyday (at least in the spring, summer and fall) when I first moved in.  Within a week of moving in I was driving every day.  Even on nice days (even 70 degrees with a nice breeze), wearing a suit and tie and carrying a brief case, by the time I reached the office I was drenched with sweat (maybe it is just me...I am certainly not overweight and in good shape).  Since my employer paid for parking and the garage was attached to my building I guess I just took the easy way out.  I am a little embarrassed by this but really not "ashamed".  :wink:

^A few years back I lived in the Warehouse District and worked on Playhouse Square.  I thought I would walk to work everyday (at least in the spring, summer and fall) when I first moved in.  Within a week of moving in I was driving every day.  Even on nice days (even 70 degrees with a nice breeze), wearing a suit and tie and carrying a brief case, by the time I reached the office I was drenched with sweat (maybe it is just me...I am certainly not overweight and in good shape).   Since my employer paid for parking and the garage was attached to my building I guess I just took the easy way out.  I am a little embarrassed by this but really not "ashamed".  :wink:

 

Even with paid parking, wouldn't the loop bus been easier to deal with? 

the answer here is one of those little razor scooters.  you could've leisurely kicked your way through the sidewalk traffic while looking like no more of a tool than you did driving 6 blocks in a car to avoid arriving with pit stains.  ha! 

wow these lofts are looking really nice here's a link

 

http://cleveland.yahoo.idx.pruselectohio.com/details.aspx?firstrecord=104&=&VIP=Yahoo+IDX&cc=realestate&fclose=n&newhome=n&za=and&searchgeo=Cleveland%2c+OH&searchtype=2&propertytype=1%2c2&sort=5&sortacdc=desc

Is anyone registered to that site and can post all six images?

Is anyone registered to that site and can post all six images?

 

the other images are of floor plans.

 

try using http://www.cutlerhomes.com and do a residential search in Cleveland.  It should bring back a link where you can view the other images.  I think that howardhanna also has the links without registering.

 

EDIT:

here are a couple (idk if links will work long term):

 

 

 

Thanks!

On the March 10th BZA agenda (http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2008/crr031008.html)

 

2701-19 Detroit Avenue

 

TEG Properties, owner, appeals to construct a 7-story, 54 residential units and retail space, proposed to be on an acreage parcel located in a Semi-industry District on the south side of Detroit Avenue between West 26th and West 28th Streets at 2701-19 Detroit Avenue; contrary to Section 325.03, parking spaces are 162 square feet and shall be at least 182 square feet and a proposed height of 91.6 feet exceeds the limitation of a 60 foot building height in a “2” Height District under the provisions of Section 353.01,  and in a “D” Area District the maximum gross floor area shall not exceed the lot area, and a floor area of 77,899 square feet is proposed contrary to the lot area of 31,363 square feet; and in the case of an irregular, triangular or segment shaped lot, the required rear yard shall be interpreted to mean average depth, provided that no required rear yard on any lot in a Residence District or in connection with buildings of residential occupancy shall be less than 10 feet in depth at any point, according to the provisions of Section 357.08(b)(3) of the Codified Ordinances. (Filed 1-23-08)     

Nice.  Now, I wonder if he's made commensurate progress on the sales side and is getting close to the amount of pre-sales needed to start.  In today's market, I imagine that could be tough.  Good to see that's he still forging ahead with the appropriate approvals.