March 11, 20205 yr 10 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Proposed Italian Village apartment complex embraces industrial vibe A new mixed-use development in Italian Village will have a distinctly industrial flavor, per new images revealed to the neighborhood commission. A look at the 175-unit apartment project proposed at 274 First Ave. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/03/11/first-look-proposed-italian-village-apartment.html Battery B and River & Rich had a baby!
April 19, 20205 yr Couple of Italian Village project photo updates from https://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-april-2020-we1 First, a photo of the three-story building built on the Spring Cleaners site at the northwest corner of North Fourth Street and East First Avenue:
April 19, 20205 yr Also from https://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-april-2020-we1 A photo of a 14-unit residential development at the southwest corner of East Fifth Avenue and North Fourth Street:
April 20, 20205 yr 12 minutes ago, Pablo said: ^Both projects - so many wires. Yeah I have always noticed that while driving 4th. I’m surprised they haven’t just buried them.
April 20, 20205 yr 32 minutes ago, Pablo said: ^Both projects - so many wires. And people say Columbus has no grit.
April 20, 20205 yr Perhaps I'm a minority but the wires there never bothered me. I find them an aspect of city life. Maybe not as charming as arches to carry electricity but I'm definitely not in the boat that thinks they *should* or *need* to be buried. And with the area being what it is, I think the best that could be hoped for is alley access. Burying those lines would be several times over the average '$1mil per mile'. Not accounting for any complications of sewer gas and water in one of the oldest parts of the city.
April 21, 20205 yr On 4/19/2020 at 7:52 PM, Columbo said: Couple of Italian Village project photo updates from https://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-april-2020-we1 First, a photo of the three-story building built on the Spring Cleaners site at the northwest corner of North Fourth Street and East First Avenue: Can someone remind me what's happening with the other half of this site? They only built up to the corner, but in between this building and the Exile development to the north is a blank space... are we getting a surface parking lot?
April 21, 20205 yr 19 hours ago, DTCL11 said: Perhaps I'm a minority but the wires there never bothered me. I find them an aspect of city life. Maybe not as charming as arches to carry electricity but I'm definitely not in the boat that thinks they *should* or *need* to be buried. And with the area being what it is, I think the best that could be hoped for is alley access. Burying those lines would be several times over the average '$1mil per mile'. Not accounting for any complications of sewer gas and water in one of the oldest parts of the city. The mess of telephone and electricity wires have always looked third world to me. If you streetview Dhaka or Lagos they're everywhere. Singapore and Switzerland not so much. In the US most new neighborhoods have all the infrastructure underground because its cheaper to do it at construction. Undergrounding of utilities in an already built up area is very expensive but because of aesthetics and clearing the sidewalk for amenities it's often worth it in the prime locations of a city where you want to put your best face forward to residents and visitors. In my opinion 4th is getting to the point where they need to be put underground. The streetscape doesn't need to be as nice as High Street or downtown but a cohesive look with more street trees, benches, lighting, etc would be helpful to string all the new development together. 2 hours ago, jebleprls22 said: Can someone remind me what's happening with the other half of this site? They only built up to the corner, but in between this building and the Exile development to the north is a blank space... are we getting a surface parking lot? There's another building back there that appears to be being restored but also that area is the driveway access from the apartment buildings parking to the street.
April 21, 20205 yr 22 hours ago, jebleprls22 said: Can someone remind me what's happening with the other half of this site? They only built up to the corner, but in between this building and the Exile development to the north is a blank space... are we getting a surface parking lot? Below is an aerial of this stretch of Fourth Street from 2017 - prior to all this recent new residential/mixed-use development. The Spring Cleaners site is #2 on the aerial and the "Exile" site is #4 on the aerial. In between is a parcel labeled #3. Parcel #3 had a single-story commercial garage along the back alley (which another poster noted is being renovated). Parcel #3 also contained a two-story house at 889 N. 4th Street. On 11/18/2017 at 12:30 PM, Columbo said: This is project #3 on the aerial - a two-story house at 889 N. 4th Street. The Business First report noted that the Italian Village Commission required that this house stay among the larger developments planned in this 4th Street block: Back when I posted this info from Business First back in 2017, all they said about this two-story house was that "the Italian Village Commissioners fought to save the five-bedroom house that was built in 1900". Now if we look at the many Google streetviews of this area, we find that the house at 889 N. Fourth Street was there in August 2017 - but was not there in July 2018. During that time, the building on the Exile site - which is located only a few feet from the house at 889 - was constructed. I haven't heard why the house at 889 got removed. But given that the house was vacant and not in the best condition - and given that heavy construction was happening only a few feet next door - it would not surprise me to learn that the foundation and/or structural integrity of the house at 889 did not survive, and that an emergency demolition order might have been issued. Which is the context to basically saying that I have no idea what the Spring Cleaners developer has in mind for this now-vacant lot. It sounds like if the Italian Village Commission would have let them build all the way over to the neighboring Exile building, they probably would have done it. But since they built to the limits of the two pre-existing buildings on the site, they may not have any plans for it. Or if they do, I've not heard anything.
April 22, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, Columbo said: Which is the context to basically saying that I have no idea what the Spring Cleaners developer has in mind for this now-vacant lot. It sounds like if the Italian Village Commission would have let them build all the way over to the neighboring Exile building, they probably would have done it. But since they built to the limits of the two pre-existing buildings on the site, they may not have any plans for it. Or if they do, I've not heard anything. The building that is being renovated reminds me of the Cosecha building just down 4th a bit. It could be a cool restaurant with the front part maybe being an outdoor patio space
April 22, 20205 yr 8 hours ago, VintageLife said: The building that is being renovated reminds me of the Cosecha building just down 4th a bit. It could be a cool restaurant with the front part maybe being an outdoor patio space I passed by here on a run this morning; from what I could tell, most if not all of the area in front of the small building will be parking and driveway access to what appears to be a garage on the left. Curb had already been built and gravel had been laid for paving. street view from July for context:
April 22, 20205 yr 7 hours ago, .justin said: I passed by here on a run this morning; from what I could tell, most if not all of the area in front of the small building will be parking and driveway access to what appears to be a garage on the left. Curb had already been built and gravel had been laid for paving. street view from July for context: Hopefully it can still be some kind of restaurant or used as a useful space.
June 9, 20205 yr Looks like the developer of the surface lot along 2nd Ave has returned with an updated proposal. Most interestingly is the developer has also included a letter of hardship regarding setback variances. The current requirements are 10' and the developer is asking for a reduction to 4' or zero in some places. The commission pushed back in the previous iteration regarding setback reductions impacting the availability of "light and air" to surrounding structures. Curious to see how they respond this time around. Updated renders Edited June 9, 20205 yr by DevolsDance spelling
June 9, 20205 yr ^^ "light and air"?? Good Lord the thing is 5 floors and probably less than 75 feet high. Not exactly a highrise we are talking about here. I hope it gets the variances it needs.
June 9, 20205 yr I guess you'd have to see the site plan to see how close it's getting to the building complex to the south? They can't possibly mean street setbacks not allowing light/air... can they? lol I'm also growing really tired of these boxes adding "pop of color" accents as if it's an architectural detail... ? Edited June 9, 20205 yr by jebleprls22
June 9, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, jebleprls22 said: I guess you'd have to see the site plan to see how close it's getting to the building complex to the south? They can't possibly mean street setbacks not allowing light/air... can they? lol I'm also growing really tired of these boxes adding "pop of color" accents as if it's an architectural detail... ? Especially when the colors are taken from a 1970's kitchen. Mango and Avocado...really. Very Brady Bunch kitchen.
June 11, 20205 yr Second Avenue Project Tops Italian Village Commission Agenda The Italian Village Commission was scheduled to vote on a proposed 155-unit mixed-use development on East Second Avenue earlier this week, but a discussion of the project was delayed due to the large number of cases on the agenda. Many of the city’s review boards and historic commissions are dealing with similar challenges, having to hold meetings virtually for the first time as they work their way through a backlog of cases. The city cancelled all public meetings in March, at the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic. JDS Companies is the developer behind the proposal, which calls for a five-story, L-shaped building at the southeast corner of Second Avenue and Sixth Street. The site is currently a large surface parking lot. More below: https://www.columbusunderground.com/first-avenue-project-tops-italian-village-commission-agenda-bw1 "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 13, 20204 yr The former Columbus Electrical Works Building (777 N 4th) site has seen recent action with both buildings now gutted and all windows opened. Always had interest in the redevelopment of these two buildings so I am excited to see the final product. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9787916,-82.9979768,3a,75y,270.92h,104.3t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1sTigXD9erOuh15OXMECIGsA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!9m2!1b1!2i38 *EDIT*: Its a Kevin Lykens Project for office and residential that was awarded tax credits back in the second round of 2018 approvals. This man seemingly owns half of Italian village at this point. Kudos to Lykens! https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/12/12/six-columbus-buildings-including-hayden-on-capitol.html Edited July 13, 20204 yr by NightNectar
July 13, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, NightNectar said: The former Columbus Electrical Works Building (777 N 4th) site has seen recent action with both buildings now gutted and all windows opened. (Sat. 7-11-20) Edited July 13, 20204 yr by NorthShore647
July 13, 20204 yr Four X Five Development (Sat. 7-11-20) Budd Dairy Project Bethany Baptist Church renovation New house on 4th Ave Infill along Greenwood Ave Station 324 Apartments Mixed Use building at the former Spring Cleaners site Just north of this new building Lincoln Parking Garage
July 13, 20204 yr I despise the parking lot at the spring cleaners. I understand It but It also is a big miss for me. At the very least, different materials such as pavers or other permeable surfaces should have been requested on such a small lot. No buffer between the lot and the sidewalk on the northern half. Just very off-putting for an otherwise nice project. Has anyone else noted that the Electrical Buildngs are being worked on as well? Edited July 13, 20204 yr by DTCL11
July 13, 20204 yr I also hate how narrow the sidewalks are on 4th. Projects like the Spring Cleaners site make it such a claustrophobic pedestrian experience. I hope they end up doing a similar project as in the Short North where they widen the sidewalks, add street trees, and then also do a permanent bike lane treatment, etc. And maybe underground some of the power lines. (My dreams are expensive) Also, SO glad to see the Bethany Baptist Church renovation moving forward. I was worried after the fire there would be some structural issues with that project but seemingly not!
July 13, 20204 yr 32 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I despise the parking lot at the spring cleaners. I understand It but It also is a big miss for me. At the very least, different materials such as pavers or other permeable surfaces should have been requested on such a small lot. No buffer between the lot and the sidewalk on the northern half. Just very off-putting for an otherwise nice project. Has anyone else noted that the Electrical Buildngs are being worked on as well? I agree -- my guess is that in order to land office tenants they needed to have some form of parking. Sometimes those small gripes that I have are one of the main reasons the project was (or is projected to be) feasible. Pavers or some sort of higher-end treatment would have made for a nice compromise. 25 minutes ago, jebleprls22 said: I also hate how narrow the sidewalks are on 4th. Projects like the Spring Cleaners site make it such a claustrophobic pedestrian experience. I hope they end up doing a similar project as in the Short North where they widen the sidewalks, add street trees, and then also do a permanent bike lane treatment, etc. And maybe underground some of the power lines. (My dreams are expensive) Also, SO glad to see the Bethany Baptist Church renovation moving forward. I was worried after the fire there would be some structural issues with that project but seemingly not! Ive been thinking this same thing about 4th since living in the area -- Eliminate the street parking on one side, keep two lanes for vehicular traffic and do a permanent (protected with concrete divider) bike lane. Toronto neighborhoods do something very similar in regard to eliminating parking on one side of a one way street in order to have a bike lane(s). There is not alot of real estate to work with along that stretch.
July 13, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, DTCL11 said: I despise the parking lot at the spring cleaners. I understand It but It also is a big miss for me. At the very least, different materials such as pavers or other permeable surfaces should have been requested on such a small lot. No buffer between the lot and the sidewalk on the northern half. Just very off-putting for an otherwise nice project. Has anyone else noted that the Electrical Buildngs are being worked on as well? That doesn't match the approved plans, I checked everything I could access on the city's website and there's parking lot screening shown at the 4th street sidewalk line to screen the spaces directly adjacent to the street. Just like the projects downtown since no one inspects for these types of issues they get missed...
July 13, 20204 yr 47 minutes ago, cityscapes said: Just like the projects downtown since no one inspects for these types of issues they get missed... Didn't somebody here report those issues to the city and they actually got reviewed?
July 13, 20204 yr 4 hours ago, NightNectar said: I agree -- my guess is that in order to land office tenants they needed to have some form of parking. Sometimes those small gripes that I have are one of the main reasons the project was (or is projected to be) feasible. Pavers or some sort of higher-end treatment would have made for a nice compromise. Ive been thinking this same thing about 4th since living in the area -- Eliminate the street parking on one side, keep two lanes for vehicular traffic and do a permanent (protected with concrete divider) bike lane. Toronto neighborhoods do something very similar in regard to eliminating parking on one side of a one way street in order to have a bike lane(s). There is not alot of real estate to work with along that stretch. Yea, and Toronto has done this on major shopping streets (equivalent to the Short North), so there's no reason not to do so on 4th. And their separated lanes are also raised, which requires less width in tight ROWs. Arguably, both 4th and Summit should be converted to 2-way streets, too, because that's the only true way to slow down their traffic.
July 13, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, TH3BUDDHA said: Didn't somebody here report those issues to the city and they actually got reviewed? It was me but since I don't live in Columbus anymore I'd like to pass the baton of holding the city responsible for what they approve to someone else.
July 14, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, jebleprls22 said: Yea, and Toronto has done this on major shopping streets (equivalent to the Short North), so there's no reason not to do so on 4th. And their separated lanes are also raised, which requires less width in tight ROWs. Arguably, both 4th and Summit should be converted to 2-way streets, too, because that's the only true way to slow down their traffic. But cyclists might fall off the curb into traffic! *sarcasm*
July 14, 20204 yr 18 hours ago, cityscapes said: It was me but since I don't live in Columbus anymore I'd like to pass the baton of holding the city responsible for what they approve to someone else. Oh no! Where'd you go? We need you here!! lol
July 26, 20204 yr I'm posting this SID news only in this Italian Village thread and not in the Weinland Park thread because this new SID is almost entirely south of 5th Avenue and within the Italian Village boundaries. Only a handful of properties in Weinland Park north of 5th Avenue are included: New district will pay for security, streetscape improvements in Italian Village, Weinland Park A sprawling new district where property owners will pay for additional security and neighborhood beautification efforts in Italian Village and a slice of Weinland Park will begin providing services next year. The Fifth Avenue and Fourth Street Special Improvement District will provide services similar to those the Downtown-area special improvement districts provide, such as security, streetscape improvements such as planter baskets and flower beds, litter and graffiti removal, and market studies. To form such a district, proponents obtained the signatures of property owners representing at least 60% of the front-footage along the streets. The property owners pay assessments to fund the district’s programs. Columbus City Council approved the new special improvement district in May and the plan of services in June. A board of trustees for this new SID has yet to be created. Two major developers with interests in the area — Thrive Companies (Wagenbrenner Development) and the Lykens Companies, have been supportive of this new SID. Mark Wagenbrenner, Thrive’s president, used to serve on the board of the Short North Special Improvement District, and he called that a catalyzing force in helping to make the Short North what it is today. The Short North Alliance will help run the new Fifth Avenue and Fourth Street SID. MORE: https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200725/new-district-will-pay-for-security-streetscape-improvements-in-italian-village-weinland-park MAP OF THE FIFTH AVENUE AND FOURTH STREET SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT
July 28, 20204 yr On 7/26/2020 at 1:21 PM, Columbo said: New district will pay for security, streetscape improvements in Italian Village, Weinland Park Doesn't sound like it, but it would be cool if they could get the money together to bury the utilities.
September 4, 20204 yr Italian Village warehouses to be redeveloped New details have emerged about a plan to redevelop a pair of warehouses in Italian Village. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/09/04/plan-to-redevelop-italian-village-warehouses-resur.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 4, 20204 yr 47 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Italian Village warehouses to be redeveloped New details have emerged about a plan to redevelop a pair of warehouses in Italian Village. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/09/04/plan-to-redevelop-italian-village-warehouses-resur.html FYI: I see this is behind a paywall, so here's a bit more about the renovation plans from the article: Quote Developer Kevin Lykens has filed a proposal with the city to revive two warehouse buildings at 777 N. 4th Street. The buildings sit along the busy 4th Street corridor, where Lykens and other developers have been repurposing industrial sites for new uses. Details submitted to the Italian Village Commission indicate Lykens wants to convert one of the buildings into a 5,250-square-foot restaurant space with a 900-square-foot seasonal patio. A second building on the site could be converted to up to 24 residential units, the documents show.
September 29, 20204 yr 315-Unit Development Proposed for Italian Village Two local developers are teaming up to bring over 300 apartments to the northeastern corner of Italian Village. The proposal, announced today by Homestead Companies and Lykens Companies, calls for 315 units and 398 parking spaces to be built on eight of the 22 acres that make up the Clark Grave Vault site. A five-story apartment building and four-story townhomes are being proposed for the first phase of the development, which will be heard by the Italian Village Commission on October 13. That portion of the proposal would be located on the south side of East Fifth Avenue, adjacent to the railroad tracks that form the neighborhood’s eastern boundary and just north of the large, green-roofed buildings that make up the Clark Grave Vault manufacturing facility. More below: https://www.columbusunderground.com/315-unit-development-proposed-for-italian-village-bw1 "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 29, 20204 yr That looks more dense than most of the stuff in the short north. The renderings look great.
September 29, 20204 yr 315-unit project joins well-stocked pipeline for Weinland Park, Italian Village border Three proposed developments could bring more than 800 new residences to a quarter-mile stretch of East 5th Avenue where Weinland Park meets Italian Village. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/09/29/developers-plan-315-unit-project-on-5th-avenue.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 29, 20204 yr Columbus Business First notes that "The development would be served by 398 parking spaces including two levels of underground parking". I was very pleasantly surprised to see underground parking, and two levels! Hopefully this catches on. Also the renderings for this look great. Side note, you couldn't pay me to live that close to a railroad track. I live ~3/4 mile from that same line and you can still hear the trains at night, I couldn't imagine being next to the thing. But to each their own.
September 29, 20204 yr 9 minutes ago, 17thState said: Columbus Business First notes that "The development would be served by 398 parking spaces including two levels of underground parking". I was very pleasantly surprised to see underground parking, and two levels! Hopefully this catches on. Also the renderings for this look great. Side note, you couldn't pay me to live that close to a railroad track. I live ~3/4 mile from that same line and you can still hear the trains at night, I couldn't imagine being next to the thing. But to each their own. I think if they build it right, it won’t be bad. People that live in the gravity building said they aren’t bothered by the train that goes by there.
September 29, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, 17thState said: Side note, you couldn't pay me to live that close to a railroad track. I live ~3/4 mile from that same line and you can still hear the trains at night, I couldn't imagine being next to the thing. But to each their own. It’s not nearly as bad as it sounds. I currently live next to a railroad crossing and I hardly notice it. My wife and my best friend both grew up direct next to railroad tracks and they both actually find the sound of the trains relaxing.
September 30, 20204 yr 21 hours ago, 17thState said: Columbus Business First notes that "The development would be served by 398 parking spaces including two levels of underground parking". I was very pleasantly surprised to see underground parking, and two levels! Hopefully this catches on. Also the renderings for this look great. Side note, you couldn't pay me to live that close to a railroad track. I live ~3/4 mile from that same line and you can still hear the trains at night, I couldn't imagine being next to the thing. But to each their own. Yeah the underground parking is great. They can do it here-but not someplace like downtown? hmmmm... I also wish I knew what the were thinking about for the second part farther south. I like everything they have depicted for the upper first part-the townhouses look cool with the top floor outdoor spaces. So much going on in Italian Village.
October 10, 20204 yr Greenwood Avenue infill (Fri. 10-9-20) Infill and renovation on N 6th Street Bethany Baptist Church renovation and expansion These are just some pictures of the existing site conditions of the proposed Lusso development: Future site of a five story apartment in the Lusso development at the corner of 5th and an extended Grant Avenue south of 5th The Grant extension looks like it'll run along the chain link fence to the right, next to the Early College Academy parking lot Potential E 4th Avenue extension to meet Grant at the "Greenspace" area in the site plan E 4th Avenue just before the proposed extension Looking south to the Station 324 development Detroit Avenue just before where it'll meet the Grant extension at the "Amenity Space" Site 2 will run along East Alley just north of Station 324
October 22, 20204 yr Some updated photos on the Wood Cos. Lincoln at Pearl project, which includes a 260-space garage, a 5,000-square-foot restaurant space and 16 apartments. Updated photos are from this 10/8 Business First article about construction in the Short North, Victorian Village and Italian Village: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/10/08/photos-short-north-construction-keeps-a-busy-pace.html View of the project facing Lincoln Street - ground floor restaurant space with apartments above and townhouse style apartments further east on this elevation: The parking garage facing Pearl Street is built to look like a warehouse: View of the townhouse style apartments facing Lincoln Street: View of the balcony space atop the bay windows built in the townhouse apartments facing Lincoln Street: View inside one of apartment units with bay windows facing Lincoln Street:
October 22, 20204 yr 48 minutes ago, Columbo said: Some updated photos on the Wood Cos. Lincoln at Pearl project, which includes a 260-space garage, a 5,000-square-foot restaurant space and 16 apartments. Updated photos are from this 10/8 Business First article about construction in the Short North, Victorian Village and Italian Village: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/10/08/photos-short-north-construction-keeps-a-busy-pace.html View of the project facing Lincoln Street - ground floor restaurant space with apartments above and townhouse style apartments further east on this elevation: The parking garage facing Pearl Street is built to look like a warehouse: View of the townhouse style apartments facing Lincoln Street: View of the balcony space atop the bay windows built in the townhouse apartments facing Lincoln Street: View inside one of apartment units with bay windows facing Lincoln Street: Look at that parking garage...and then look at the garage at the Convention Center.
October 23, 20204 yr 17 hours ago, Toddguy said: Look at that parking garage...and then look at the garage at the Convention Center. Same architect but different client and budget.
October 27, 20204 yr Looks like Parkside on Pearl is making its way back to the IVC Agenda for November. The newest version may be the most handsome in my opinion, I am excited to see this project is alive. I followed up with a few contacts and it seems the project is looking to break ground early next year if approved quickly. Overview of the Project - 8 Stories - Height of ~92' - 51 parking spaces on 3 levels (1 below ground, 2 above) - 1 Floor of Leasable Office Space - 37 Apartment Units Edited October 27, 20204 yr by DevolsDance
October 27, 20204 yr Additionally... A new Project is being proposed off E 3rd Ave, tucked behind Station 324. Looks like this proposal is a joint Homestead and Lykens project. While I am excited to see the continues infill, have to admit this project isn't exactly a the most attractive IMO. Either way, yay for more density and hopefully the design will be tweaked a bit along the way. Overview of the Project - Two buildings, one 3 Stories and the other 4 Stories - Height of ~45' - 134 Units - 164 at grade and underground parking spaces
October 27, 20204 yr 4 minutes ago, DevolsDance said: Additionally... A new Project is being proposed off E 3rd Ave, tucked behind Station 324. Looks like this proposal is a joint Homestead and Lykens project. While I am excited to see the continues infill, have to admit this project isn't exactly a the most attractive IMO. Either way, yay for more density and hopefully the design will be tweaked a bit along the way. Overview of the Project - Two buildings, one 3 Stories and the other 4 Stories - Height of ~45' - 134 Units - 164 at grade and underground parking spaces That is great infill, but the design is trash. So hopefully they do have them change it up a bit.
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