Posted July 25, 200915 yr Ok, there is a similar thread about "favorite Cleveland places to show off" I want to throw something out a little different.... We all know the great sites...BUT...do we know of any hidden gems? Lesser known places/areas that could be called "Cleveland's Best Kept Secrets?" It could be a street...homes, restaurant, park, building, nature-related, a story, a cool view, shopping, etc... Not a favorite place.. But a lesser known best kept secret, that you might wonder why it does not get more attention.... Ok... Have at it!....
July 25, 200915 yr Mill Creek Falls in Slavic Village is my favorite hidden enclave in Cleveland: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,16386.0.html In Ohio City, the birthplace of John Heisman - the historic marker is actually in front of the wrong house, according to some: http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3759208 http://www.hmdb.org/marker.asp?marker=17908
July 25, 200915 yr Nice topic. Hmmmm Diamond Men's Club (a strip club in the Flats) has some absolutely delicious food during weekday happy hours and it's free! Free parking, free cover, 2 dollar domestics, and really good free food during something like 5-7.
July 25, 200915 yr The special collections section on the third floor of the original building of the downtown Cleveland Library is one of Cleveland's best kept secrets. It contains original printings of historic documents, archeological artifacts such as Babylonian dice, and some of the smallest printed books (you need a magnifying glass to read) in the world. There is also a large collection of chess sets. This section of the library more closely resembles a historical museum then a reading room. Visitors are always pleasantly surprised and I have never found another library that contains such an expansive collection. The link below lists many of the artifacts in the collection. http://spc.cpl.org/index.php?q=node/5
July 25, 200915 yr :-D Great! How about Jackass Hill and the sites of some of the Torso Murders, for those into that CSI stuff... I think the second victim.. Edward Andrassy is buried in St. Mary's cemetery... I think.
July 25, 200915 yr Ok, my take on this is not a real 'secret' I guess, but maybe underrated views of downtown--as I never see them much in photos....... But there is a view when traveling straight down Larchmere going North Westerly.... that you can see ONLY the terminal Tower and the older surrounding buildings. I imagine this view is exactly the same as it was since 1930. Another interesting view is traveling west down Prospect and seeing the Rose Building in the foreground....and the Terminal Tower in the background.... And, the view of downtown from the top of the slope on Woodland, is it??? Someone help me....near Luke Easter Park. The little buildings in "Little Poland" in Slavic Village..... I will think of others.... More after these messages!
July 27, 200915 yr Here are a couple tiny "secrets" not everyone may know about: 1) Dittrick Medical History Center: http://www.cwru.edu/artsci/dittrick/site2/ Gorgeous old Library too 2) Norman Rockwell paintings at General Electric, Nela Park, East Cleveland (not open to the Public, only heard about) 3) Michelson-Morely Experiment Monument (determined Speed of Light was a constant--foundation for Therory of Relativity), Einstein's writing in the Physic's building at CWRU.
July 27, 200915 yr Here are a couple tiny "secrets" not everyone may know about: 1) Dittrick Medical History Center: http://www.cwru.edu/artsci/dittrick/site2/ Gorgeous old Library too 2) Norman Rockwell paintings at General Electric, Nela Park, East Cleveland (not open to the Public, only heard about) 3) Michelson-Morely Experiment Monument (determined Speed of Light was a constant--foundation for Therory of Relativity), Einstein's writing in the Physic's building at CWRU. I may be able to get some pics of the Rockwell paintings for you if you are interested but I will have to contact some people first to make sure I don't get in trouble.
July 27, 200915 yr Very hard topic for this particular site because very little goes without mention on here. However, I have a couple ideas: 1. There is a neighborhood on the western edge of Cleveland Hts that has some very nice architecture and, I would guess, not a lot of people actually explore back there. Let me try to post a link - http://www.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.497135,-81.601092&spn=0.003841,0.006877&z=17. Very nice/diverse architecture and, I imagine with it being at the top of Cedar Hill, the attic views of downtown are amazing. 2. Hanna Beach in Bratenahl. A good secret b/c it is not open to the public. Tucked away in a private neighborhood off Lakeshore (Newport), just across the harbor from Shoreby. Small, but offers a great view of downtown. http://www.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.557332,-81.606461&spn=0.001919,0.003439&t=h&z=18. I went to a party there last year and thought this would be a great place to have one of the forumers take some shots. (If anyone is interested in taking some shots, I know a person or two that might be able to get you back there). 3. Some other great views of Downtown can be had from the rooftop deck of Judson Manor in UC. Similar to the angle from the Garfield Monument in Lakeview, just closer.
July 27, 200915 yr Ok, my take on this is not a real 'secret' I guess, but maybe underrated views of downtown--as I never see them much in photos....... But there is a view when traveling straight down Larchmere going North Westerly.... that you can see ONLY the terminal Tower and the older surrounding buildings. I imagine this view is exactly the same as it was since 1930. Another interesting view is traveling west down Prospect and seeing the Rose Building in the foreground....and the Terminal Tower in the background.... And, the view of downtown from the top of the slope on Woodland, is it??? Someone help me....near Luke Easter Park. The little buildings in "Little Poland" in Slavic Village..... I will think of others.... More after these messages! The view near luke easter park you're talking about is at 93rd and Kinsman as you're heading down the bridge. This just might be my favorite view of the skyline in the whole city. I also agree with you on Larchmere. Its gives a great view of the top of the skyline. I also like the view at Buckeye and Woodhill.
July 27, 200915 yr The best kept secret?...The Brownstone Inn. It's at 3649 Prospect Ave. in the Upper Prospect area. Certainly a unique destination in Cleveland.
July 27, 200915 yr Here are a couple tiny "secrets" not everyone may know about: 1) Dittrick Medical History Center: http://www.cwru.edu/artsci/dittrick/site2/ Gorgeous old Library too 2) Norman Rockwell paintings at General Electric, Nela Park, East Cleveland (not open to the Public, only heard about) 3) Michelson-Morely Experiment Monument (determined Speed of Light was a constant--foundation for Therory of Relativity), Einstein's writing in the Physic's building at CWRU. I may be able to get some pics of the Rockwell paintings for you if you are interested but I will have to contact some people first to make sure I don't get in trouble. Wow. Well I don't want you to get in trouble. I doubt you could post them in a "public place" like this. EDIT: Actually I dunno know. If you can, I'd love to see them.
July 27, 200915 yr The best kept secret?...The Brownstone Inn. It's at 3649 Prospect Ave. in the Upper Prospect area. Certainly a unique destination in Cleveland. Yes! I forgot about that... Is this part of the brownstone row houses? That is a great place as well. Any photos?
July 27, 200915 yr Ok, my take on this is not a real 'secret' I guess, but maybe underrated views of downtown--as I never see them much in photos....... But there is a view when traveling straight down Larchmere going North Westerly.... that you can see ONLY the terminal Tower and the older surrounding buildings. I imagine this view is exactly the same as it was since 1930. Another interesting view is traveling west down Prospect and seeing the Rose Building in the foreground....and the Terminal Tower in the background.... And, the view of downtown from the top of the slope on Woodland, is it??? Someone help me....near Luke Easter Park. The little buildings in "Little Poland" in Slavic Village..... I will think of others.... More after these messages! The view near luke easter park you're talking about is at 93rd and Kinsman as you're heading down the bridge. This just might be my favorite view of the skyline in the whole city. I also agree with you on Larchmere. Its gives a great view of the top of the skyline. I also like the view at Buckeye and Woodhill. Thanks for clearing this one up for the exact spot. I know it may not be the best spot to take time to take a lot of photos because of the traffic...limited area to get perched up to take some...or even the sketchier places intertwined for that matter.. But this is a spot where I wish we could see more photos.
July 27, 200915 yr Yes, it is part of the Upper Prospect rowhouses (beautiful 1874 Victorians) Not many of those around these parts
July 27, 200915 yr Some more secrets I would say... The overall climate of North Collinwood. Its actually a very decent neighborhood despite the bad rap it gets. South Collinwood is a different story, but its on its way up though. The nice and huge houses in the Glenville area, specifically off 105th. Also, the fact that, physically Glenville just may have the most potential of any neighborhood in the city of Cleveland, (Yeah, I said it) if the crime can ever be curbed. The breathtaking homes in the Wade Park-Ashbury district.
July 27, 200915 yr Some more secrets I would say... The overall climate of North Collinwood. Its actually a very decent neighborhood despite the bad rap it gets. South Collinwood is a different story, but its on its way up though. The nice and huge houses in the Glenville area, specifically off 105th. Also, the fact that, physically Glenville just may have the most potential of any neighborhood in the city of Cleveland, (Yeah, I said it) if the crime can ever be curbed. The breathtaking homes in the Wade Park-Ashbury district. You havent said anything I have said for years here. :wink: Most the crime is above 110 street. The triangle is very safe.
July 28, 200915 yr Some more secrets I would say... The overall climate of North Collinwood. Its actually a very decent neighborhood despite the bad rap it gets. South Collinwood is a different story, but its on its way up though. The nice and huge houses in the Glenville area, specifically off 105th. Also, the fact that, physically Glenville just may have the most potential of any neighborhood in the city of Cleveland, (Yeah, I said it) if the crime can ever be curbed. The breathtaking homes in the Wade Park-Ashbury district. You havent said anything I have said for years here. :wink: Most the crime is above 110 street. The triangle is very safe. I think the entire state of the eastside(cleveland proper) is blown out of proportion. While there are some problem areas, there are still some nice, liveable areas. But, I think people jump to conclusions so easily based off isolated incidents they read about, and bad-mouth areas that they have never (and aren't willing) to spend any time or even just take a drive through. And this also contributes to the overall negative outlook on the area, with so many people discouraging others from the city. And then people turn around and wonder why the population is dropping so much.
July 28, 200915 yr Free, Are you talking about the homes along East Blvd/Wade Park? Can anyone post some photos? I agree...there are still good places east. Some of the most handsome homes where a simple coat of paint and proper historic color scheme would do wonders. Oh, and by the way, I have a secret.... What about the swing suspension bridge? The only bridge of its kind in Cleveland. It is closed and dilapidated, but would be good to preserve if possible. It is a foot bridge. Anyone know about this? Photos?
July 28, 200915 yr It's not that much of a secret but I love the Music Mound in the metroparks in berea. Best kept musical "secret:" 15 60 75 or "The Numbers Band." Based out of Kent but regularly playing places like the Parkview in Cleveland and the Northside in Akron (next to luigi's), this is a fantastic blues/rock band that never quite made it "big," but has dedicated, long-time fans of their great music; they are the real deal. The sax player is Terry Hynde (Chrissy's brother); I've been watching them for 22 years and am still one of the younger fans. www.numbersband.com. Here's a link to an old article when they were actually mentioned in the wall street journal: http://www.numbersband.com/wsjarticle.html
July 28, 200915 yr Free, Are you talking about the homes along East Blvd/Wade Park? Can anyone post some photos? I agree...there are still good places east. Some of the most handsome homes where a simple coat of paint and proper historic color scheme would do wonders. Oh, and by the way, I have a secret.... What about the swing suspension bridge? The only bridge of its kind in Cleveland. It is closed and dilapidated, but would be good to preserve if possible. It is a foot bridge. Anyone know about this? Photos? I was talking about all the homes in the 105 area, but yes, East blvd is beautiful too(especially the homes between Superior and St. Clair). I wasn't necessarily talking about at East blvd and Wade Park, but as far as Wade Park, there are some nice houses from 105 going towards Case. I'm not sure what bridge you're talking about but the only one that comes to mind is the Sidaway bridge off Kinsman. My great aunt lives on Berwick in seeing distance of it and I've heard stories about of how it was "back in the days." Lol
July 28, 200915 yr It's not that much of a secret but I love the Music Mound in the metroparks in berea. Best kept musical "secret:" 15 60 75 or "The Numbers Band." Based out of Kent but regularly playing places like the Parkview in Cleveland and the Northside in Akron (next to luigi's), this is a fantastic blues/rock band that never quite made it "big," but has dedicated, long-time fans of their great music; they are the real deal. The sax player is Terry Hynde (Chrissy's brother); I've been watching them for 22 years and am still one of the younger fans. www.numbersband.com. Here's a link to an old article when they were actually mentioned in the wall street journal: http://www.numbersband.com/wsjarticle.html This sounds interesting. I never thought much of bands or music venues being best kept secrets...But you have stirred my imagination. I will expand on this musical idea about a small group of singers from Cleveland, who perform area wide. They are called "The Sounds Of Integrity" and they are true vocal pros who sing everything from 50's/60's Rock and Roll, to Classic Soul and R&B from the 60's through 90's. Adult Contemporary and Jazz...Doo Wop..and even some Classic 70's Rock Tunes like The Doobie Brothers' "Long Train Runnin' " They also perform a lot of Philly Soul, like The Stylistics, Blue Magic, The Whispers, and the impeccable Delfonics...and even some Earth Wind & Fire. You can remove the sound track (they wil also work with live bands) and hear just their voices go at it and they are BRILLIANT! One of the members does a great Barry White and another a great Wil Hart and Disco Inferno tune with a raspy voice! They appeal to all ages and music tastes. Everyone who goes to see them enjoys the performance.
July 28, 200915 yr Some more secrets I would say... The overall climate of North Collinwood. Its actually a very decent neighborhood despite the bad rap it gets. South Collinwood is a different story, but its on its way up though. The nice and huge houses in the Glenville area, specifically off 105th. Also, the fact that, physically Glenville just may have the most potential of any neighborhood in the city of Cleveland, (Yeah, I said it) if the crime can ever be curbed. The breathtaking homes in the Wade Park-Ashbury district. You havent said anything I have said for years here. :wink: Most the crime is above 110 street. The triangle is very safe. I think the entire state of the eastside(cleveland proper) is blown out of proportion. While there are some problem areas, there are still some nice, liveable areas. But, I think people jump to conclusions so easily based off isolated incidents they read about, and bad-mouth areas that they have never (and aren't willing) to spend any time or even just take a drive through. And this also contributes to the overall negative outlook on the area, with so many people discouraging others from the city. And then people turn around and wonder why the population is dropping so much. Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner! My grandparents, several aunts/uncles and cousins live in that exact area. I've never felt unsafe.
July 28, 200915 yr Glenn Schwartz's free Thursday night shows at Major Hooples. I went there 2 Thursdays ago and was told he hasn't played since January. I asked if he would continue playing there anytime soon and I didn't get a very straightforward answer.
July 28, 200915 yr Glenn Schwartz's free Thursday night shows at Major Hooples. I went there 2 Thursdays ago and was told he hasn't played since January. I asked if he would continue playing there anytime soon and I didn't get a very straightforward answer. That's too bad. He can really play.
July 28, 200915 yr Good thread. - Maybe not for forumers, but for the general population, pretty much the entirety of Asiatown. One of our coolest nabes, and I would guess that at least 50% of northeast Ohioans don't know it exists. Koko Bakery = Particular Yum. China Merchandise Exhibit = Particular Kitsch. - As an overlap with the above, the relatively quiet live-work movement on the Near East Side. We now literally have hundreds of artists living between E. 18th and E. 55th. Some of the buildings are higher visibility, like Tower Press and Loftworks. Others are a little more DIY in nature, but artists have created STUNNING live-work lofts. If you haven't had an opportunity to check them out, take a look at Keith Berr Studios (in the East 30s; they're very private, and I don't want to identify location, but the inside of the building is absolutely STUNNING), 1400 E. 30th, Josaphat Arts Hall (E. 33rd), ArtCraft (E. 25th-ish on Superior), Hamilton and 53rd (where you can get a raw 1400 sq. foot space with 14 ft. ceilings for $450 a month ... http://cleveland.craigslist.org/apa/1276196729.html). And check out this BEAUTY of a renovation at St. Clair and E. 40th ... eat your heart out, Chelsea: http://cleveland.craigslist.org/apa/1290895814.html. These are just a sampling of dozens of buildings that have gone live-work. Not just an east side phenomenon (check out the sprawling W. 78th Street Studios, for instance), but St. Clair Superior definitely has the majority of the live-work market. - Tyler Village gets its own bullet. If you haven't visited, or if you haven't visited lately, you need to RUN over to the E. 30s. - The primarily industrial warehouses north of Lakeside, from E. 32nd-ish to E. 55. These are still primarily operational industrial buildings, but I know live-work has finally started to make the transition to this side of Lakeside. Stunning lake views. Intact, narrow corridors of buildings, with a weird ghost town feel. Amazing. - Not exactly hidden or secret, but the Euclid Avenue bike lanes. Truly exceptional addition to the city ... really beautiful bike ride that gives you time to stop and just really admire what an improvement the Euclid Corridor Project has made. And you end up keeping pretty good time with the car and bus traffic. Of course, if these lanes are so visible and useful, why aren't more people using them?! - Passport Project: This place, just south of Shaker Square is an amazing community-based arts center. You can take dirt cheap classes in Salsa, Hip Hop, Capoiera, photography, etc. Very diverse, very friendly, very hippie-tastic. - The lesser known Tremont-Ohio City connectors: I think most people think of Abbey and Clark when they think of getting to Tremont from Ohio City, but I've been having a lot of fun finding new low-traffic alternatives for biking between the two. My personal favorite is Willey Ave ... how did I manage to miss this convenient shortcut all these years?! East Sider! - Variety Theater: Again, forumers are probably in the know on this theater restoration project in Westown, but this a very cool building with a very cool history. It's admittedly a bit decrepit at the moment, but if they get some momentum going behind this, it's going to be one of the real gems of the southwest side. - The Streets and Alleys of Ohio City: When I think of meandering roads and random alleyways, I usually think of Tremont, and I think I've done a good job of exploring those. But I just realized how many cute random little streets there are in Ohio City! Again, maybe not a secret (at least for West Siders), but the back-streets in OC are adorable ... I'm particularly enamored with the area to the west of Fulton and north of Bridge. Mabel Ct. is quite possibly my favorite street in Cleveland, as of this Saturday :)
July 28, 200915 yr Good thread. - Maybe not for forumers, but for the general population, pretty much the entirety of Asiatown. One of our coolest nabes, and I would guess that at least 50% of northeast Ohioans don't know it exists. Koko Bakery = Particular Yum. China Merchandise Exhibit = Particular Kitsch. - As an overlap with the above, the relatively quiet live-work movement on the Near East Side. We now literally have hundreds of artists living between E. 18th and E. 55th. Some of the buildings are higher visibility, like Tower Press and Loftworks. Others are a little more DIY in nature, but artists have created STUNNING live-work lofts. If you haven't had an opportunity to check them out, take a look at Keith Berr Studios (in the East 30s; they're very private, and I don't want to identify location, but the inside of the building is absolutely STUNNING), 1400 E. 30th, Josaphat Arts Hall (E. 33rd), ArtCraft (E. 25th-ish on Superior), Hamilton and 53rd (where you can get a raw 1400 sq. foot space with 14 ft. ceilings for $450 a month ... http://cleveland.craigslist.org/apa/1276196729.html). And check out this BEAUTY of a renovation at St. Clair and E. 40th ... eat your heart out, Chelsea: http://cleveland.craigslist.org/apa/1290895814.html. These are just a sampling of dozens of buildings that have gone live-work. Not just an east side phenomenon (check out the sprawling W. 78th Street Studios, for instance), but St. Clair Superior definitely has the majority of the live-work market. - Tyler Village gets its own bullet. If you haven't visited, or if you haven't visited lately, you need to RUN over to the E. 30s. - The primarily industrial warehouses north of Lakeside, from E. 32nd-ish to E. 55. These are still primarily operational industrial buildings, but I know live-work has finally started to make the transition to this side of Lakeside. Stunning lake views. Intact, narrow corridors of buildings, with a weird ghost town feel. Amazing. - Not exactly hidden or secret, but the Euclid Avenue bike lanes. Truly exceptional addition to the city ... really beautiful bike ride that gives you time to stop and just really admire what an improvement the Euclid Corridor Project has made. And you end up keeping pretty good time with the car and bus traffic. Of course, if these lanes are so visible and useful, why aren't more people using them?! - Passport Project: This place, just south of Shaker Square is an amazing community-based arts center. You can take dirt cheap classes in Salsa, Hip Hop, Capoiera, photography, etc. Very diverse, very friendly, very hippie-tastic. - The lesser known Tremont-Ohio City connectors: I think most people think of Abbey and Clark when they think of getting to Tremont from Ohio City, but I've been having a lot of fun finding new low-traffic alternatives for biking between the two. My personal favorite is Willey Ave ... how did I manage to miss this convenient shortcut all these years?! East Sider! - Variety Theater: Again, forumers are probably in the know on this theater restoration project in Westown, but this a very cool building with a very cool history. It's admittedly a bit decrepit at the moment, but if they get some momentum going behind this, it's going to be one of the real gems of the southwest side. - The Streets and Alleys of Ohio City: When I think of meandering roads and random alleyways, I usually think of Tremont, and I think I've done a good job of exploring those. But I just realized how many cute random little streets there are in Ohio City! Again, maybe not a secret (at least for West Siders), but the back-streets in OC are adorable ... I'm particularly enamored with the area to the west of Fulton and north of Bridge. Mabel Ct. is quite possibly my favorite street in Cleveland, as of this Saturday :) Well done! :clap: Passport Project, is cool. IIRC, they have/had a radio station that features the artists and music featured or taught at the classes.
July 28, 200915 yr Not to get props from MTS, but the housing stock and apartment buildings just north of CWRU are incredibly stunning. I'm talking about Wade Park Ave, Ashbury Ave, (E. 105th inbetween Ashbury and Wade Park), Orrville Ave, Lee Ave, MLK area...and of course Glenville itself. Do some "google streetview" and look around a little bit...or better yet, check out the area.
July 28, 200915 yr Not to get props from MTS, but the housing stock and apartment buildings just north of CWRU are incredibly stunning. I'm talking about Wade Park Ave, Ashbury Ave, (E. 105th inbetween Ashbury and Wade Park), Orrville Ave, Lee Ave, MLK area...and of course Glenville itself. Except for the two spooky houses on 110. They look like they should be on a halloween set or in the video thriller. Every time I walk by, I get the heebie jeebies'!
July 28, 200915 yr ^^ Link - http://www.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.517206,-81.610544&spn=0.00768,0.013754&t=h&z=16 I agree totally. I always knew that the area had some great housing stock but had the chance to walk the neighborhood just a few weeks back when I parked on Ashbury for Parade the Circle. I would love to own one of the Victorians in that neighborhood some day. And the neighborhood is more diverse than most assume. Honestly, the Dilworth neighborhood in Charlotte was not that much different 30-40 yrs ago.
July 28, 200915 yr ^ Link - http://www.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.517206,-81.610544&spn=0.00768,0.013754&t=h&z=16 I agree totally. I always knew that the area had some great housing stock but had the chance to walk the neighborhood just a few weeks back when I parked on Ashbury for Parade the Circle. I would love to own one of the Victorians in that neighborhood some day. And the neighborhood is more diverse than most assume. Honestly, the Dilworth neighborhood in Charlotte was not that much different 30-40 yrs ago. That neighborhood was really nice when I was younger. Then crack hit. My grandparents moved off their street to the house current live in to avoid it. Many people stayed but weren't able to fight it off like the folks between superior and st. clair. Now the area is making a rebound.
July 28, 200915 yr :-D Great! How about Jackass Hill and the sites of some of the Torso Murders, for those into that CSI stuff... I think the second victim.. Edward Andrassy is buried in St. Mary's cemetery... I think. So Cleveland's best kept secret is a gruesome, nationally-publicized killing spree? I kid, I kid Jack The Ripper-London....Some, especially those in forensics and CSI sort of work...find this a mystifying story.
July 28, 200915 yr I thought this was a nice video of the Cleveland and Beyond area.... I have not found it on here yet.
July 28, 200915 yr ^Now that's how you market a city (though PIB and Marblehead are Toledo MSA, but obviously Lake Erie is our shared resource). I'm pretty sure the video has been posted before. It's a good answer to those Cleveland tourism videos by Mike Polk (though I do think they're funny). There is one thing I have a problem with in 'over-marketing' of places like natural areas of Lake Erie--and I say this as a one time assistant naturalist--and that is, our park systems are barely scraping by. The funding for staff has been severely cut. What does this mean? It means we are placed in a position where we cannot handle the influx of people coming in as a result of increased marketing of a park. The problems this presents are as Hawaii national parks and many other national parks found out...is that we can 'love a place to death'...meaning you get a certain percentage of people coming in who could not give two poops about the place and do all kinds of inappropriate things like wandering off designated trails, littering, starting fires, vandalizing, making unnecessary noise, etc. I have seen it all. The end result is costly; a place that looks good on the marketing materials...but in reality, becomes a disappointment to the better money spending visitors that would truly appreciate and respect the place. Then, they don't return to spend money...and the parks are left with having to shell out a lot more money to clean up after their messes. A coordinated effort needs to be achieved with matching the promotional output of a particular park so it is proportionate to the amount of staff the given park can handle. Hocking Hills had to deal with this issue because of run-away marketing of the visitors Bureau, and the results have these parks not nearly as grand as they used to be. In this case...maybe some things are best...a best kept secret! I like to emphasize on quality...and not quantity..as sometimes 'less is more' On those parody marketing videos... They are amusing to those of us who see the hidden humor and know our area well....but still love it. But they used tired stereo-types and are really not creative in my opinion. And others who do not know as we know...may take it literally, which only escalates the same old same old....and then wonder why we cannot shed an image as we become forever economically type-cast.
July 28, 200915 yr Excellent list 8shades! I have to agree with all of it, especially the Lakeside industrial area. Unfortunately, I fear for this area's future. It sounds like the Port's plan is to "rejuvenate" that area, with a lot of demolition and land consolidation. It is, imo one of the most unique areas of our city, and we will be greatly impoverished should we lose it.
July 28, 200915 yr This portion of the near east side is taking some really attractive strides. It is up and coming and underrated. Great for pointing all, this out!!! Thanks!
October 18, 200915 yr Anyone have any more secrets to share on this thread? We haven't heard anything in a while.
October 18, 200915 yr W. 82nd St. in the Stockyard between Denison and Clark. Beautiful tree-lined residential street in the middle of the hood.
October 22, 200915 yr Great list! Here's mine: 1. Dyke 14, you've got to sneak in past a fence, but that just makes it more interesting. An amazing, wilderness reclaimation. The most surreal part is the leftover military signage from the Nike Missile defense site that was there. It is bizarre. Otherworldly peaceful and the views of downtown are incredible. 2. The light beacon north of the abandoned Coast Guard station. This little spot is the closest you can get on two feet to being surrounded by water. It is a lonely place but strangely inviting too. On bright and sunny days the water is so reflective, it's very intense. The lighting is not unlike being in Miami or Honolulu. Then of course you have the amazing sunsets. Here is the beacon, but in winter. Sorry I don't have any summer shots yet. http://www.flickr.com/photos/outofplacemovie/3256503709/#
October 22, 200915 yr ^ Great to point out Dike 14. That is a precious and RARE kind of spot along the lakefront. It is a true gem that few realize exists.
October 24, 200915 yr Here is another little "secret" within a well known place, actually..... The gift shop in the Museum Of Natural History is fantastic! Many great books relating to geology, nature, and archeological sciences, astronomy, and so on. There are many other unique quality gift items here too. The setting is really nice. I remember years ago, we used to buy these pencils with fake shrunken heads on the top... Kind of morbid, but as a kid we couldn't get enough of these!
October 25, 200915 yr I remember years ago, we used to buy these pencils with fake shrunken heads on the top... Kind of morbid, but as a kid we couldn't get enough of these! Damn good eatin' too! :-P "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 12, 201015 yr Just wanted to mention, as I neglected to for so long... The Cleveland Police Museum in the Justice Center...all kinds of interesting historical displays of police history in the city including the original mold made from one of the beheaded victims of the Torso Murders. I believe the museum is free. Is it still there?
March 12, 201015 yr At the Mentor Headlands, you walk on the rocks (well, not sure if you're actually "allowed to") in order to hit up the area by the light house. It's very calming there, kind of isolated from the rest of the beach.
May 23, 201015 yr ^ This is a great place indeed. I was just thinking of outer areas around the city and what comes to mind is not really a secret, but I don't see it mentioned a whole lot....but the drive along Chagrin River Road from approximately Miles Rd. north to approximately I-90. Very scenic, many great parks, side roads, villages, and very graceful and feminine topography. Gorgeous in the Autumn. Hard to believe one would be minutes from the center of the city. I think somewhere around here is also the place of the legend of the Melonheads. There is also a hill on Rt. 87 not far that allows you to see the Key Tower. Lastly, The West Woods Nature Center nearby is a great place for viewing local "backyard Cleveland wildlife" The streams make tantalizing photos on a nice fall or spring day.
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