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Alabama accused of blocking high-speed rail plan (Atlanta to N.O.)

 

http://birmingham.bizjournals.com/birmingham/stories/2009/03/09/story2.html

 

 

What will these idealogues do next, prohibit inhaling oxygen and drinking water?

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Wikipedia map:

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Nice map.

 

Seems to me we can add a few decently small connectors (Cleveland or Columbus to Pittsburgh, KC to Tulsa, and Jacksonville to Orlando) and one big connector (OK City to San Diego or LA?) and we've got ourselves one nice, country-wide high speed rail system.

 

Small steps....

Nice map.

 

Seems to me we can add a few decently small connectors (Cleveland or Columbus to Pittsburgh, KC to Tulsa, and Jacksonville to Orlando) and one big connector (OK City to San Diego or LA?) and we've got ourselves one nice, country-wide high speed rail system.

 

Small steps....

 

These are just the federally designated high speed corridors (i.e. eligible for any federal high speed funding) and NOT a national system. That's what's missing from all this discussion about high speed rail. We need a NATIONAL network.

a maintanence facility is holding up minneapolis rail expansion?!??!?

 

Bell: Thune-led objection is latest threat to Central Corridor light-rail line

 

By Dave Orrick

[email protected]

Posted: 03/03/2009 12:01:00 AM CST

 

 

Stop Or Go?

 

The newest roadblock for the planned Central Corridor light rail linking St. Paul and Minneapolis is coming from a surprise place: none other than the St. Paul City Council.

 

http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_11822362?nclick_check=1

Detroit really needs to connect to Toledo. So to eventually get from Detroit to New York (assuming there is a Cleveland to Buffalo line some day), you've got to go to Chicago first? :lol:

 

yeah, that det-chi line is very strange and looks like a waste of money. it should just spur from detroit down to toledo, then detroiters could go east or west from there.

 

also, if louisville's line went to cinci instead of indy it looks a bit shorter too + it could pick up the airport along the way.

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http://www.railjournal.com/latenews.shtml#Feature4-3-16

 

March 6, 2009

Houston to expand light rail network

 

HOUSTON Metropolitan Transit Authority (MTA) has unanimously approved a $US 1.46 billion contract for four new light rail lines, which would add 32km to the city’s 11km starter line.

MTA awarded has Parsons Transportation Group a design-build-operate-maintain (DBOM) contract for planned East End, Southeast, North, and Uptown lines. Veolia will act as operations and maintenance contractor.

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

indy news:

 

 

Light rail could face obstacles in Senate

Key chairman voices concerns about funding Noblesville-to-Indy line

 

By Chris Sikich

Posted: March 2, 2009

 

A Legislation that could fund a $160 million light-rail system from Noblesville to Downtown Indianapolis has cleared the Indiana House but could run off the tracks in the Senate.

 

The bill would allow county and city governments to create regional transportation districts. Those governmental bodies would have the power to raise income taxes to pay for road projects, new or expanded bus service and light rail.

 

http://www.indystar.com/article/20090302/NEWS05/903020341/1304/LOCAL

 

http://www.railjournal.com/latenews.shtml#Feature4-3-16

 

March 6, 2009

Houston to expand light rail network

 

HOUSTON Metropolitan Transit Authority (MTA) has unanimously approved a $US 1.46 billion contract for four new light rail lines, which would add 32km to the city’s 11km starter line.

MTA awarded has Parsons Transportation Group a design-build-operate-maintain (DBOM) contract for planned East End, Southeast, North, and Uptown lines. Veolia will act as operations and maintenance contractor.

 

Metro intends to spend $US 632 million on the initial phase of the project, primarily on the East End line ($US 390 million).

 

CAF, Spain has been awarded the $US 118 million 29 LRVs, 19 of which will operate on the existing line with the remaining 10 destined for the East End Line. Metro President and CEO Mr Frank Wilson said the total cost of the contract was below the $1.57 billion estimate the agency gave to the Federal Transit Administration last year.

 

What irony.  Here in Cleveland we want more rail, in Houston they think this is a laughable toy.

Fucking MTA.. what a joke, these fare hikes are crazy!

Virginia commits state funds to add Amtrak service 

www.railwayage.com

 

In a first for “The Old Dominion State,” Virginia will provide $25.2 million in state funding to run two round-trip Amtrak trains serving Washington, D.C., over a three-year period. One train would link the nation’s capital with Lynchburg, Va., adding a second frequency over Norfolk Southern right-of-way used by Amtrak's Crescent. A second round trip would add more Amtrak service between Richmond and Washington, over right-of-way owned by CSX Transportation.

 

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http://www.railwayage.com//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=652&Itemid=121

The list is now up to 15 states that support intercity passenger rail.  How much more proof does the Ohio Senate need?

They still think we're re-inventing the wheel.

They still think we're re-inventing the square wheel.

 

I fixed that for you.

The Virginia investment was front-page news here in Virginia.

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http://www.detnews.com/article/20090321/POLITICS/903210343/Funding+for+high-speed+rail+considered

 

Funding for high-speed rail considered

Mich. lawmaker says White House may grant share of stimulus cash for Detroit to Chicago project

Gordon Trowbridge / Detroit News Washington Bureau

 

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration said Friday that a plan for high-speed rail between Detroit and Chicago is "well positioned" to receive federal stimulus funding, according to a state lawmaker.

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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And another article from the Midwest......

 

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/41608122.html

Doyle seeks full cost of faster train line

By Larry Sandler and Patrick Marley of the Journal Sentinel

 

Posted: Mar. 20, 2009

 

Milwaukee-Madison route

 

Click to enlarge

Follow the Money

Special Section: The Journal Sentinel tracks how the economic stimulus money is being spent in Wisconsin

 

State officials are seeking federal stimulus money to pay the full $519 million cost of a proposed 110-mph Milwaukee-to-Madison passenger train line, not just part of it, Gov. Jim Doyle says.

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This is going to be painful.  The monthly card goes from$81 to $103  :wtf:  In a decade the cost of buying a monthly card has gone from $63 to $103


MTA Finance Committee Approves Fare Hike

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority finance committee voted today to approve higher fares for subway, buses and commuter trains, two days ahead of the full board's vote.

 

The agency has threatened that unless Albany lawmakers come up with a bailout plan by Wednesday, the fare hikes and service cuts will take effect.

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http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/23/how-will-you-cope-with-higher-fares/?hp

 

 

Paterson is going to go down as the worst governor in recent history of the country.

The Wisconsin proposal sounds good; there's already a waiting market, and the Hiawatha Service trains do their job very well. Speed things up and add more service, and the demand would increase in direct proportion.

 

Anyone who doubts a demand for more service trains should see the weekend lines at the ticket counter in Milwaukee, especially around holidays.

 

And if they haven't fixed that abysmal train shed since the last photos I saw, that would be a very good place for some of the stimulus money.

IBM hops aboard high-speed rail

By Martin LaMonica, CNET News, March 24, 2009

 

Imagine traveling by rail at 200 miles per hour between cities, and then catching a local line to your final destination.

 

IBM on Wednesday plans to announce details of three rail projects outside the U.S. that bring that vision of efficient and convenient rail travel closer to reality. Overall, the projects in China, Taiwan, and the Netherlands show how rail travel can reduce urban congestion and cut down on pollution from transportation, said IBM.

 

See more:

http://www.dot.gov/affairs/dot3009.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/us/20rail.html?scp=1&sq=rail%20stimulus&st=cse

http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/

 

What do you guys think the economic impact of a bunch of high speed rail corridors would be realistically (looking at the map at the top of the page). It looks like the downfall of the aviation industry but I wonder if it would attract a lot of international investment.

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The commercial aviation makes its money on high volume, longer distance routes that rail can't compete with. Most short-haul flights are necessary evils and loss-leaders for the airlines, yet that's where rail excels. And as long as rail is connected to airports and there are code-sharing arrangements with the airlines, both rail and the airlines should win.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I can see where airports like Fort Wayne's might take a beating even from fast trains (110mph) that run on time and frequently. I haven't investigated the services lately, but I think a lot of the traffic is to larger hubs that are well within the range of passenger rail; Chicago and Indianapolis, for example.

 

Currently the only "competition" Fort Wayne's air carriers have for service to Chicago is bus, and that's two trips per day, one via South Bend and taking an hour longer than driving, and the other via Toledo (!!! :wtf:) taking seven hours.

 

In order for rail to be serious competition against air service from regional airports to major hubs, rail would have to have easy, direct connections with the hub airports, and service from Fort Wayne to Union Station doesn't cut it. Either you drop a hefty cab fare, $40 or so, to get to O'Hare, or if you're familiar enough with CTA, hike with your luggage to the nearest Blue Line station allowing at least an hour for the ride.

 

We need to better integrate our various transportation modes and relax the rules that make it difficult for a carrier to operate multiple modes, so that a traveler can choose whichever combination best suits his/her needs.

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http://www.rtands.com/breaking_news.shtml#Feature4-4-1

 

March 31, 2009

 

 

SFRTA launches “Fund or Fail” effort to save Tri-Rail

 

The South Florida Regional Transportation Authority is mounting a major grassroots effort to bring the financial plight of the Tri-Rail commuter rail service to the attention of Gov. Charlie Crist and state senators and representatives. The “Fund or Fail” campaign is being organized to inform members of the public of the impact the impending revenue shortfalls will have on service and to encourage them to contact the Governor and their elected representatives in the state House and Senate with the message that Tri-Rail service is critical to the livelihood and welfare of the people of South Florida and it must be saved.

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

a new train to the game station is about ready to open

 

 

04/01/2009 07:34 PM

Metro-North Station At Yankee Stadium To Open May 23

By: Bobby Cuza

 

When it comes to taking the train to the Yankees game, there's one more option to taking the B,D and 4 subway lines.

 

This baseball season, Yankees fans can for the first time take Metro-North to a station that is now nearing completion near the new Yankee Stadium in the Bronx's Concourse Village.

 

video:

http://www.ny1.com/content/news_beats/transit/96680/metro-north-station-at-yankee-stadium-to-open-may-23/Default.aspx

Paterson is going to go down as the worst governor in recent history of the country.

 

Yeah, this guy's a total joke.  The State really needed relief after the Spitzer fiasco... and they got Patterson... ugh!

Paterson is going to go down as the worst governor in recent history of the country.

 

Yeah, this guy's a total joke.  The State really needed relief after the Spitzer fiasco... and they got Patterson... ugh!

 

Too  be fair, just like Obama, he inherited a bunch of stuff that Spitzer wasn't watching.

 

Now that it's landed in his lap, he's had to clean up the mess and because of the way he ended up in office, he's being watched more closely than spitzer.

 

Seriously, we talk about people, but I wonder if any of us could do a better job under the same circumstances.

OMG, MyTwoSense... comparing Patterson to Obama!?  Go to your room with no dinner tonight and sit in the corner!... Seriously though, I don't know what kind of mess Spitzer left other than NYState embarrassment.  I'd like to be fair to Patterson -- both as a minority (sadly only one of 2 guvs of color) and as a legally blind man, but you've got to admit, he's said and done some really dumb things; most notably torpedoing highly-honorable Caroline Kennedy's run for Hillary's seat... anyway, back to our regularly-scheduled other states/rail thread...

OMG, MyTwoSense... comparing Patterson to Obama!?  Go to your room with no dinner tonight and sit in the corner!... Seriously though, I don't know what kind of mess Spitzer left other than NYState embarrassment.  I'd like to be fair to Patterson -- both as a minority (sadly only one of 2 guvs of color) and as a legally blind man, but you've got to admit, he's said and done some really dumb things; most notably torpedoing highly-honorable Caroline Kennedy's run for Hillary's seat... anyway, back to our regularly-scheduled other states/rail thread...

 

Personally, I don't give a f*ck since I'm not a NYer!  :wink:  Highly-honorable and qualified are two different things.  I still think there are some skeletons in the Kennedy closet.

well, at least some mta money is being used appropriately -- now that's a lot of new trains!  :-o

 

 

New trains roll out on the F

 

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Next stop, the F line

 

Finally, F train riders have something to celebrate.

 

New digital trains started rolling out on the F last week, adding some automated enjoyment to the much-maligned line.

 

The addition of the R160s to the F made it the ninth line to receive the new trains, a Transit spokesman said. The other lines are: the E, J, L, M, N, Q, W and Z.

 

In other milestone, more than 1,000 of the R160 cars are now operating in the system. Transit owns 1,049 of the cars and had rolled out 1,010 of them as of Thursday.

 

http://weblogs.amny.com/entertainment/urbanite/blog/2009/04/new_trains_roll_out_on_the_f.html

 

 

^I like those R160 cars.  A tad sterile, but functionally efficient.  Many systems are moving to digital station displays like this, esp commuter rail... I did like those 80s (?) MTA cars with those silver-y walls and faux wood-grain panels.  They seemed to be the workhorse of the subways.

What's a digital train?

^Digital displays, dude.

 

It's nice knowing how long its going to be until the train arrives.

 

If only buses were that accurate urgh.

^ They just got those? I guess they did! DC Metro has had them for years.

^ Certain lines are just getting them, they aren't the first to the system.

I did like those 80s (?) MTA cars with those silver-y walls and faux wood-grain panels.  They seemed to be the workhorse of the subways.

 

Those are the R44's and R46's, built in the 1970's and rebuilt in the 90's. They were the "new generation" subway trains of their day, but were riddled with technical and mechanical problems when first introduced. Those problems are what put the St. Louis Car Co. and the Pullman Co. out of business, respectively.

 

They're generally reliable post-rebuild, but they're showing their age (I ride them nearly everyday) they'll be the next generation to get replaced once the current R160 contract is done.

^ The R32's are the oldest in the system, those are the next to be retired completely.

Yes, but the R32's (along with the R36's, R40's, and R42's) are currently being replaced by the R160's. I'm talking about what comes after the R160's.

^ Fair enough.

Caltrain OKs agreement with state High Speed Rail Authority 

RailwayAge.com

 

The Caltrain Board Thursday unanimously approved an agreement with the California High Speed Rail Authority to establish an initial organizational framework where the authority and Caltrain will engage as partners in planning, design, and construction of improvements along the Caltrain corridor to be shared by both Caltrain and a portion of the state’s planned $44 billion, 700-mile HSR network.

 

http://www.railwayage.com//content/view/710/121/

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Many rail industry observers expected Florida to apply for up to $2 billion in stimulus funds. Now it looks like they won't be submitting anything. While I feel bad for Florida, this could bode well for Ohio......

 

http://www.railwayage.com//content/view/720/121/

 

Florida HSR leader quits, protesting state's inertia 

 

One of Florida’s leading high speed rail proponents has resigned from the Florida High Speed Rail Authority, citing state indifference to federal HSR funds now available. C.C. “Doc” Dockery (pictured) has submitted his letter of resignation to authority Chairman Lee Chira, expressing displeasure with Florida’s unwillingness to seek any of the $8 billion in federal HSR funding being made available.

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Gov. Jeb Bush, who terminated the state’s HSR program in 1999 and who tried to force the authority to disband.

 

Gov. Bush, however, put the issue back on a subsequent ballot, and voters approved a measure to remove any obligation to build HSR within the state.

 

I don't think history will be kind to this family.

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http://www.news-sentinel.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090404/NEWS/904040330/0/FRONTPAGE

 

Sat. Apr. 04, 2009

Rally for Fort Wayne train service draws hundreds

By Bob Caylor

of The News-Sentinel

 

Derrick James, an emissary from Amtrak, stood in a train station where trains no longer arrive. He faced 400 to 500 people who made it clear through their chants and cheers that they want to see trains come back to Fort Wayne. James got the message.

 

“If the enthusiasm here is any measure, any guide to whether we're going to get passenger rail service back in Fort Wayne, I'm saying we'll get it,” James said late Friday afternoon.

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I was just getting ready to post info on the Fort Wayne Rally for Rail. You had to have been there to have understood how strong the feeling was.

 

With all the economic stimulus money being made available, it seems all Indiana's Governor Mitch Daniels and the legislators can talk about it roads-and-bridges, roads-and-bridges.

 

Here's the photo thread that I just posted:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,18897.0.html

Kresge Foundation commits funds to Detroit LRT project  

Railway Age Magazine

 

Of nearly $73 million in grants awarded by the Kresge Foundation for the year’s first quarter, half of it, $35 million, was identified for developing light rail transit in the foundation’s hometown of Detroit.

 

 

http://www.railwayage.com//content/view/743/121/

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Holy sh*t!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

We need him in Ohio!

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