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23 minutes ago, DEPACincy said:

 

What are you saying nope to? I think I missed your point here.

 

Robots are not going to eliminate warehouse jobs.  The big gains in distribution productivity were made with fork lifts in the 1950s and the original business computers and bar codes in the 1970s.  Everything now takes a ton of IT expertise to squeeze out decreasing percentage gains.

 

It still takes 900 people at DHL every night of the year to unload 25 airplanes, sort their eclectic cargo, and load it back onto 25 airplanes.   It'll take a lot fewer people to do the same at Amazon Prime Air because the cargo is not eclectic.   

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

Robots are not going to eliminate warehouse jobs.  The big gains in distribution productivity were made with fork lifts in the 1950s and the original business computers and bar codes in the 1970s.  Everything now takes a ton of IT expertise to squeeze out decreasing percentage gains.

 

It still takes 900 people at DHL every night of the year to unload 25 airplanes, sort their eclectic cargo, and load it back onto 25 airplanes.   It'll take a lot fewer people to do the same at Amazon Prime Air because the cargo is not eclectic.   

 

Agree to disagree. I've been to several freight workshops where companies have demonstrated how they plan to make this a reality. It's coming. And the Prime stuff is going to be the easiest to automate because of the exact phenomenon you mention. 

 

At any rate, even if I'm wrong and they don't automate, these are pretty low paying jobs, and there's not a lot of them. My point about it being a bad investment would stand.

54 minutes ago, DEPACincy said:

 

 It's coming.

 

Tech can improve but can't completely solve the custom aspects of warehousing/distribution.  For example, if you place a multi-item order with an e-retailer, you generally accept that the order will arrive on your porch line-by-line, from different points of origin.  You as a retail buyer of consumer goods do not have a unique product code, software, payment terms, etc.  You use a generic credit card and use the distributor (Amazon, Macy's, etc.) paperwork.  

 

Many B2B customers do not accept this and the entirely of an order must be palletized before it leaves the distribution center and must arrive complete.  It must have the customer's bar codes on the product since the customer uses different business software than the distributor who himself uses different software/part #'s than the vendor.  Much of this is computerized but much of it is necessarily manual.  There hasn't been any improvement in this realm for 30+ years.  

 

There is also the messy matter of...conversions.  Again, this doesn't happen in the retail sales world but is commonplace in B2B.  For example, a distributor receives a generic product - let's say a truckload of 4"x48" tubes.  One final customer wants a metal cap on one end and another customer wants one plastic cap assembled on one end and a second plastic cap in an envelope.  They order 100 of said tubes and the 100 envelopes must be kept in a case of a specified size.  They place this order once every 4 months so there is no way to put up a permanent assembly line.  

 

There is tons and tons and tons of this sort of menial stuff going on out there in America as we speak.  

15 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

Tech can improve but can't completely solve the custom aspects of warehousing/distribution.  For example, if you place a multi-item order with an e-retailer, you generally accept that the order will arrive on your porch line-by-line, from different points of origin.  You as a retail buyer of consumer goods do not have a unique product code, software, payment terms, etc.  You use a generic credit card and use the distributor (Amazon, Macy's, etc.) paperwork.  

 

Many B2B customers do not accept this and the entirely of an order must be palletized before it leaves the distribution center and must arrive complete.  It must have the customer's bar codes on the product since the customer uses different business software than the distributor who himself uses different software/part #'s than the vendor.  Much of this is computerized but much of it is necessarily manual.  There hasn't been any improvement in this realm for 30+ years.  

 

There is also the messy matter of...conversions.  Again, this doesn't happen in the retail sales world but is commonplace in B2B.  For example, a distributor receives a generic product - let's say a truckload of 4"x48" tubes.  One final customer wants a metal cap on one end and another customer wants one plastic cap assembled on one end and a second plastic cap in an envelope.  They order 100 of said tubes and the 100 envelopes must be kept in a case of a specified size.  They place this order once every 4 months so there is no way to put up a permanent assembly line.  

 

There is tons and tons and tons of this sort of menial stuff going on out there in America as we speak.  

 

That's fine. But I'm not sure how it is relevant to the point, which is that in 10 years there are going to be FAR less warehouse jobs than politicians in NKY are promising. And what jobs do exist are going to be low wage.

1 hour ago, DEPACincy said:

 

That's fine. But I'm not sure how it is relevant to the point, which is that in 10 years there are going to be FAR less warehouse jobs than politicians in NKY are promising. And what jobs do exist are going to be low wage.

 

No, there will be more.  We've been warned about automation for 50+ years and it hasn't happened.  Back in February we had more people employed than at any time in history, and back in the 70s many futurists predicted that we'd only be working 10 hours a week by the year 2000.  People are...still making that same prediction but it never happens.  Many people are working two crap jobs just to survive. 

 

I worked at the same distributor twice - once in summer 2001 and again in summer 2006.  It was a place that distributed books to bookstores like Borders, Barnes & Noble, etc.  They also did early Amazon business, when Amazon was just books.  Back in 2001 they had a giant Crisplant sorter installed but it wasn't working yet.  They had rebuilt the interior of the place around a machine that wasn't working so the travel patterns and congestion were ridiculous.  They brought in like 300 high schoolers to pick the orders and they had gobs of immigrants doing the packing. 

 

When I came back in 2006 the Crisplant sorter was working and working like a charm.  The physical layout of the place now actually made sense.  There were fewer pickers and packers but business was also down because bookstores started failing.  Also, the place was raided by immigration and they carted off untold dozens of illegal immigrant. 

 

Anyway, technology like this is 20 years old:

 

 

Like I said, all of the big productivity gains have already been made in distribution and warehousing. 

 

I worked at a place for about six weeks in Hebron, KY (during Christmas) back in 2008 called Innotrac that did two things - they warehoused high-end patio furniture and they distributed DVD's.  We had to physically unload all of the patio furniture by hand off shipping containers and put it on pallets.  It was fairly tiring to do for 8 hours...tons and tons of cargo made overseas is delivered to U.S. distributors packed into shipping containers because the pallets waste space.  There are tons of guys all over the U.S. - right now - taking stuff out of shipping containers by hand.  That isn't going to be automated.  

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57 minutes ago, ucgrady said:

^“Everything that can be invented has been invented.”- Charles Duell 1899 + Jake M. 2020

 

 If you actually work in logistics - which I do and have since 1994 - you'd know that no single quantum leap has been made in that time period.  All of the computerization gains were made in the 70s - it just took time for all of the mid and small companies to implement them.

 

Even with cell phones and GPS, truck drivers are still making mistakes all the time.  There are still tons of miscommunications that clog up customer service reps.  E-commerce is so plagued by returns that they're often just throwing out returned items instead of restocking them.  

 

People still make Spinal Tap purchasing errors.  Instead of 4 cases they order 4 skids, or vice verse.  The truck now has to go there to either deliver the backorder or pick up a return.  Like 10% of all of the trucks on the road are driving to the wrong place or making a return.  

 

13 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

 If you actually work in logistics - which I do and have since 1994 - you'd know that no single quantum leap has been made in that time period.  All of the computerization gains were made in the 70s - it just took time for all of the mid and small companies to implement them.

 

Even with cell phones and GPS, truck drivers are still making mistakes all the time.  There are still tons of miscommunications that clog up customer service reps.  E-commerce is so plagued by returns that they're often just throwing out returned items instead of restocking them.  

 

People still make Spinal Tap purchasing errors.  Instead of 4 cases they order 4 skids, or vice verse.  The truck now has to go there to either deliver the backorder or pick up a return.  Like 10% of all of the trucks on the road are driving to the wrong place or making a return.  

 

 

 

Here's the thing. You must know more than the actual leadership of the companies that are locating in Boone County. Because what I'm telling you is directly from their mouths. 

 

So, I guess there are two scenarios:

1. They actually know more than you, and the public subsidies that are supposedly bringing in thousands of great jobs are actually a waste and that will continue to become more and more apparent. 

 

2. You're right and they are wrong. In which case, their entire business model, which is based on continued reduction of labor costs, is flawed and they are going to have to massively scale back their operations to continue to be profitable. In that case, the public subsidies will also prove to be a huge waste. 

 

So the people in NKY claiming hyping it as the "silicon valley of logistics" and wasting public dollars to bring more and more warehouses to the region are damned either way.

At many e-commerce sites, people are simply the cogs that feed the MHE (material handling equipment) that does the skilled work.  People load bulk items in one side, the MHE breaks it down, sorts and distributes it, and delivers it to the outgoing side where people put it in boxes and load it onto trucks or planes.  And the robotics companies are working to push automation ever further to the edges with new package filling machines that can handle disparate products and combine them into a single box as people do now.  At Amazon facilities, conveyor and other MHE often cost more than double the cost of the facility itself.  And nearly all errors are made people, not the MHE.

 

We need to accept automation and robots as a reality and focus on how people should best use their time in the future (and how to control the robots) instead of denying that it’s happening.  Remember “survival of the fittest”.

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17 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

 

 

Even with cell phones and GPS, truck drivers are still making mistakes all the time.  There are still tons of miscommunications that clog up customer service reps.  E-commerce is so plagued by returns that they're often just throwing out returned items instead of restocking them. 

 

 

Another experience of living in a "warehouse town" is dealing with lost truckers daily. All these different GPS interfaces are terrible at telling truckers which roads are important, which ones are not, which ones are closed to truckers and which ones got closed and converted to bike paths in 1989. There are truckers traipsing all sorts of narrow semi-rural residential roads that they would never even be on if it weren't for tech.

3 hours ago, thesenator said:

And nearly all errors are made people, not the MHE.

 

Like I said, bar codes were...huge.  That technology is now almost 50 years old.  Business computers are...50 years old.  The single-best thing computers are good at is accounting/inventory. 

 

Modern inventory/accounting systems can create reports with...color.  They can automatically create pdf's that are emailed automatically each morning to everyone in a department.  That's honestly about the only thing modern software does that software couldn't do in the 80s. 

 

We had circa-1981 software until 2015.  The customer service girls had to print out the orders, then scan them on a scanner, create a pdf, and then email that pdf to the customers.  The modern software streamlined that primitive process, but the software is so buggy that we exchanged that problem for a bunch of new ones. 

 

3 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

 

Another experience of living in a "warehouse town" is dealing with lost truckers daily. All these different GPS interfaces are terrible at telling truckers which roads are important, which ones are not, which ones are closed to truckers and which ones got closed and converted to bike paths in 1989. There are truckers traipsing all sorts of narrow semi-rural residential roads that they would never even be on if it weren't for tech.

 

Truck drivers expend a lot of energy complaining about low railroad overpasses.  Garmin, etc., have had "truck" mode for 10+ years on their GPS devices, yet they've never been able to tackle the issue of low-clearance railroad bridges. 

 

In fact, confidence in GPS that turns out to be inaccurate has caused many trucks to hit the low bridges.  These incidents don't get as much press as the times when a truck drives into a park or over a historic bridge. 

 

 

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This thread has gone off the rails. Please keep it focused to Northern Kentucky development, please. 

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Don't know if anyone here is aware of this but Amazon is working on building out covid testing labs in Hebron for processing samples from all their employees countrywide.  Interviewed for an engineering job there for this just recently but decided it wasn't right for me.  Didn't really get a feel for the scope or how much economic impact it will have for the area though.

Lots of construction activity at CVG, including Amazon Air Cargo Hub and new Rental Car Facility (CONRAC).

 

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$65M development planned for former Beverly Hills Supper Club site lands key approval 

 

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Plans to purchase and redevelop land that was formerly home to the Beverly Hills Supper Club received a key approval July 14.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/07/16/65m-development-planned-for-former-beverly-hills.html

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Progress on the new Graves Road interchange on I-275 as of August 1, 2020.

 

SW toward new overpass.

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East toward new alignment of Williams Road which will function as frontage road for new Graves Road and then connect to the original alignment for access to residential areas to north and west. 

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East toward overpass and new alignment of Williams Road which will function as frontage road for new Graves Road and then connect to the original alignment for access to residential areas to north and west. New WB entrance ramp will run just to right of new Williams Road and roughly in alignment with existing Williams Road. Note?: This road surface and alignment dates back to original construction of I-275 here. It served as a new access to what a section of Watts Road that was cutoff by I-275.

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Looking East. Closer view of fill that will raise new Graves Road and the DCD to the level of the overpass. This section will close once the new Williams connector is finished. I have no authority but I would bet this will happen mid-August that old Williams will be permanently closed and as a result the access to the old Graves overpass that has been "closed" (locals are still using it) since early 2020, will be scheduled for demolition.

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Beverly Hills Supper Club site gets key approval for $65 million redevelopment

 

Plans for a $65 million redevelopment of the former Beverly Hills Supper Club property in Southgate received a key approval Wednesday night, but one group plans to challenge the project.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/08/20/beverly-hills-supper-club-site-gets-key-approval.html

 

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I know the Graves Road interchange is probably a boring one for most but I figure since I started chronicling it, I need to carry through.

 

Since the last update, crews have constructed a new Worldwide Blvd extension to access a new Williams Road (done) and a New Graves Road (UC). This allows them to close the old sections as well as dismantle the Graves Road overpass.

 

This shot is looking east and is the new connection of Worldwide Blvd. to New Graves Road and Williams Road. You can see the top of one of the warehouses in the business park which gives an idea of how close development, despite some of these picture looking rural.

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This is from same spot as previous and is looking along the ROW for New Graves. New Williams can be seen to the right and will serve as a frontage road for new development. We will go there coming up in the following pics.

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Same spot again but looking further to the right (SW) at Worldwide extension to New Williams. Note the stubs already in place for future development. Looking further to the right, you would see residential development/construction through the trees...in the Tree Tops subdivision.

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We have moved west here to align with the New Williams ROW. Looking south.

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Same spot as previous photo but looking back east along the Worldwide extension. The houses on the right will not survive. The building on the left is a Hebron Fire Station.

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We have traveled south on New Williams now and are looking SE at the new overpass construction. New Graves will parallel Williams to this vantage point as it approaches the overpass. 

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Further along the New Williams as we have curved to the SW where the new road joins back with the old road.

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Lookin back (NE) the opposite direction of the previous photo. New road meets old and new overpass is in distance. With the new alignment and resulting new access to Old Williams, crews have begun dismantling the original overpass built in the 1970s. It's just beyond the new overpass.

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Now we are looking (west) the opposite direction of the previous photo, but we have moved to the approach of the old Graves overpass and stand in the intersection of Old Graves and Old Williams, which are now completely closed. We are looking along the ROW of Old Williams.

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Same view but looking more to the SW.

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Turning to our left we are now looking south at Old Graves overpass. I-275 passes in front of us, obscured by the berm.

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Looking (north) opposite of previous. Alignment of Old Graves. Notice the water tower. We started this tour to the left of it. New Graves will run several hundred feet to the left (west) of this old potion of Graves, which will be gone at some point. This area has all been rezoned commercial/industrial and will be redeveloped. 

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Turning left from the previous pic, this house has sat ambiguously vacant for years. Not for much longer...

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6 hours ago, Rabbit Hash said:

I know the Graves Road interchange is probably a boring one for most but I figure since I started chronicling it, I need to carry through.

 

Thanks for the updates.  I biked over there two weeks ago for the first time in at least five years.  Specifically, I biked from Ludlow out to the end of KY 8 and then up North Bend to the airport, then under the runway, then back down to the Anderson Ferry. 

 

The traffic circles on North Bend are obnoxious and a big distraction for anyone on a bicycle.  They went to the trouble of building 1-2 miles of bike lanes but then you suddenly have to either luck out and come to the traffic circles when there is no traffic or bail for the sidewalks.  When you're on a bike it's really tough to anticipate what the traffic is going to do in a circle since nobody uses turn signals. 

 

I forgot that the runway tunnel has provisions for more lanes, meaning there are long-term plans to turn that road into a 4-lane monster - as if that area needs any more chaos.  It's like an Atlanta suburb over there. 

 

 

On 8/21/2020 at 10:19 PM, jmecklenborg said:

 

Thanks for the updates.  I biked over there two weeks ago for the first time in at least five years.  Specifically, I biked from Ludlow out to the end of KY 8 and then up North Bend to the airport, then under the runway, then back down to the Anderson Ferry. 

 

The traffic circles on North Bend are obnoxious and a big distraction for anyone on a bicycle.  They went to the trouble of building 1-2 miles of bike lanes but then you suddenly have to either luck out and come to the traffic circles when there is no traffic or bail for the sidewalks.  When you're on a bike it's really tough to anticipate what the traffic is going to do in a circle since nobody uses turn signals. 

 

I forgot that the runway tunnel has provisions for more lanes, meaning there are long-term plans to turn that road into a 4-lane monster - as if that area needs any more chaos.  It's like an Atlanta suburb over there. 

 

 

 

Thanks for the kudos @jmecklenborg. That's an impressive route you biked there! Especially pulling up that hill from KY8 on North Bend (KY237). And that route out to the end of KY8 is surreal. 

 

The roundabouts are weird about the bike lane. You have to make that weird turn up the ramps to use the side walks. 

 

I will say that Boone County continues to build a very good infrastructure for bikes. Many, if not all, of the road projects they have started in the past 10 years have included bike lanes or separated paths.

9 minutes ago, Rabbit Hash said:

 

Thanks for the kudos @jmecklenborg. That's an impressive route you biked there! Especially pulling up that hill from KY8 on North Bend (KY237). And that route out to the end of KY8 is surreal. 

 

 

Yeah KY 8 is probably the single-best road for doing a 35-mile out-and-back ride in the Cincinnati area and definitely from downtown.  The way the mild hills vary in character make it a lot more interesting to ride than most roads in this area and it's a fun challenge to keep powering through them on a road bike.

 

KY 8 in the opposite direction out to Silver Grove and beyond is also a great ride (and it has a few gas stations). 

 

I've never done the Cincinnati to Rabbit Hash and back ride, which is a pretty serious ride.  I did do Cincinnati to Falmouth and back about 8 years ago. 

 

 

 

I can't unsee the 8-ball in the KY 8 signs

KY-8 east is closed to through traffic between Tower Hill and River Road.  It's in awful shape with many parts of the inbound/northbound/westbound/downriver/river-side lane collapsed, and a couple of landslides covering the outbound lane too.  It's completely barricaded off between the Aquaramp marina and the Newport pumping station about 1/4 mile south of that, but it is passable by bike, you just have to pay attention.  If you're going inbound you have to use the wrong lane most of the way.  They're debating whether to reopen it at all since it gets so little traffic and there's only three houses plus the aforementioned marina and pumping stations/intakes.   

4 hours ago, jjakucyk said:

They're debating whether to reopen it at all since it gets so little traffic and there's only three houses plus the aforementioned marina and pumping stations/intakes.   

 

Crazy.  I didn't know that they are considering abandonment. 

 

My personal favorite road bike ride in the Cincinnati area is from 27 in Alexandria down to KY 8 via 547.  I'm not even sure what the name of the road is but I rode it for the first time about 15 years ago and have ridden it many times each summer since except they resurfaced the thing this year and I haven't been back for about two months.  They must be done now so it's probably safe but back in May or June I rode for 4-5 miles on ground-up pavement and it destroyed a set of tires. 

 

Anyway, it's as surreal as KY 8 from Ludlow out past the Anderson Ferry.  There is a crazy mix of eclectic old buildings, a biker bar or two, and a heard of goats that sometimes follows you as you bike past.  The hill profile is just crazy - like a roller coaster, and you can easily maintain 30mph for several extended sections because the uphills are very brief as you drop 400 feet down to the river. 

 

 

 

On 8/23/2020 at 10:48 AM, Rabbit Hash said:

I will say that Boone County continues to build a very good infrastructure for bikes. Many, if not all, of the road projects they have started in the past 10 years have included bike lanes or separated paths.

Since you clearly live or at least spend time in Boone County, have you documented the CVG construction and surrounding infrastructure changes? I haven't been to CVG in almost a year so I would like to see the new approach and car rental facility progress. If you had pictures of the new Amazon air hub that would be awesome too and save me from having to drive out there some day.  None of these projects get regular construction updates, or if they do I can't seem to find them.

Here’s a photo of the hub I took while heading on vacation last month. But you never really see it when you’re driving up. The new car rental space, the road infrastructure changes and the other developments around the entrance are far more impactful. 

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Thanks. It doesn't look like a huge 1.5 billion dollar building from that angle, until you realize it's about 1000 feet long and 6 stories high and will be filled to the brim with conveyors, robots and who knows what.

 

It's amazing how much earth moving they have done, the area surrounding that looks like a mountain top removal strip-mine in eastern Kentucky.

On 8/24/2020 at 1:36 AM, jmecklenborg said:

 

Crazy.  I didn't know that they are considering abandonment. 

 

My personal favorite road bike ride in the Cincinnati area is from 27 in Alexandria down to KY 8 via 547.  I'm not even sure what the name of the road is but I rode it for the first time about 15 years ago and have ridden it many times each summer since except they resurfaced the thing this year and I haven't been back for about two months.  They must be done now so it's probably safe but back in May or June I rode for 4-5 miles on ground-up pavement and it destroyed a set of tires. 

 

Anyway, it's as surreal as KY 8 from Ludlow out past the Anderson Ferry.  There is a crazy mix of eclectic old buildings, a biker bar or two, and a heard of goats that sometimes follows you as you bike past.  The hill profile is just crazy - like a roller coaster, and you can easily maintain 30mph for several extended sections because the uphills are very brief as you drop 400 feet down to the river. 

 

 

 

 

@jmecklenborg That is 4 Mile Road.

On 8/25/2020 at 2:02 PM, ucgrady said:

Since you clearly live or at least spend time in Boone County, have you documented the CVG construction and surrounding infrastructure changes? I haven't been to CVG in almost a year so I would like to see the new approach and car rental facility progress. If you had pictures of the new Amazon air hub that would be awesome too and save me from having to drive out there some day.  None of these projects get regular construction updates, or if they do I can't seem to find them.

@ucgrady Unfortunately, I have not been tracking those projects. I will see what I can do about getting pix of the hub. The thing is, I just don't know how to approach it. I have no special access to the contractor site and it's true that it sits pretty far back from Aero Parkway which is to the left in the picture @Pdrome513 posted. 

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I'd love to see a taller residential tower go up west of Riverhaus on the parking lot that remains between it and the recruitment center. Covington is hopping. We went down this weekend to check out Covington Yard... the city needs wider sidewalks!

29 minutes ago, Chas Wiederhold said:

I'd love to see a taller residential tower go up west of Riverhaus on the parking lot that remains between it and the recruitment center. 

 

If so they would hopefully leave a space for an alley since the new building was permitted to block a direct way through from Blackwell St.  

 

That part of Covington is so weird since you have one of the most pleasant pedestrian streets (6th street promenade) in the region a block away from a glorified suburban interstate exit fast food wasteland.

 

Traveling east/west in Covington is too difficult/intimidating as a visiting pedestrian due to the narrow sidewalks,elevated railroad creating creepy underpasses and shift in the street grid. Natives don't care but anecdotally 90% of drive-to visitors to Covington park twice, driving between the two main business nodes instead of parking once and walking. 6th street seems like the natural connector between Main and Madison it just needs sidewalk improvements and new businesses infilling between the overpass and Madison besides just a church, salon, mechanic and axe throwing place.  It's less than a 10 minute walk, but people rarely walk it. 

 

 

 

 

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Newport mural project commemorates city's past on eve of 225th anniversary

 

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On a recent weekend evening, Newport’s sidewalks and public spaces along Third Street buzzed with activity.

 

While the interior spaces of Newport on the Levee continue to undergo a massive renovation, people congregated at the new Bridgeview Box Park, a container park with eight restaurants and retailers in an open-air setting along the river.

 

The bustle is a testament to Newport’s successful efforts over the past 20 years to make the Levee a popular destination and entertainment spot along Riverfront Commons, the nearly 12-mile urban walking and biking path connecting Northern Kentucky’s five river cities: Dayton, Bellevue, Newport, Covington and Ludlow.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/10/09/mural-mural-on-the-wall.html

 

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^Boone County is fast turning into suburban Atlanta.  

The Airport is going to be a juggernaut. Hopefully Passenger numbers keep increasing, as well.

1 hour ago, zsnyder said:

The Airport is going to be a juggernaut. Hopefully Passenger numbers keep increasing, as well.

 

The airport lost the Delta/Comair Hub *AND* the DHL hub 10+ years ago, but is now poised to surpass Memphis as the #1 cargo airport in the U.S. by 2030.  Memphis isn't exactly booming because of the FedEx hub but it certainly doesn't hurt.  It'll be one more thing that helps keep Cincinnati resilient from recessions.  

 

 

DHL is back from Wilmington at CVG and is the Americas hub. Amazon is currently leasing space from them. 

^yeah I know that I am friends with a data analyst at DHL.  He said that they're worried about what's going to happen when Amazon's new building is finished because they're currently operating during the daylight hours only but the Prime building will be a 24-hour operation and so be in competition with DHL's massive midnight-8am workforce.  They have like 900 people on that shift and 300% annual turnover.  The turnover is so high that he said just about anyone can be making $75k as a manager if they stay there 2-3 years.  

 

The really big difference is that Amazon Prime will be able to dangle first and second shift as a promotion to its third shift managers.  DHL can't do that because they're never going to have a significant first or second shift.  So they're worried that Amazon is going to get all of the better people.  

 

 

 

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Not sure I have seen these renderings circulated before.  Don't know if they are just vision or something more.  Some neat renderings of Fountain Square West/Fountain Place and the property east of NOTL.

 

Reztark is redesigning Newport on the Levee. They are reimagining the property in a way that will make it a destination for new experiences and entertainment while taking advantage of its scenic proximity to the Ohio River.

They've also worked on several other high-profile projects around town.

Get to know the design firm behind Newport on the Levee's revamp, and see some of the other exciting projects they've worked on over the years.

 

 

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At first glance, the difference between project and built is pretty stark. 

3 hours ago, The_Cincinnati_Kid said:

Not sure I have seen these renderings circulated before.  Don't know if they are just vision or something more.

Every few years, Reztark puts out some concept designs that garner attention (like the Fountain Place tower)... but I would caution you to not get too excited until a project's design is actually funded. As we see, Fountain Place is going in a totally different direction, unaffected by Reztark's vision. 

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^I guess when you're in a CDP called Francisville you have to find a different name, so Hamlet on the Bend isn't the worst name I've ever heard. In positive news my parents will now be within walking distance of something potentially interesting which is surprising considering what that exit looked like when they moved out there in 2006. North Bend road went from two lanes to 7 lanes, an Amazon hub, a new library, a new interstate exit at Graves, a new elementary school , more suburban housing sprawl, and now a mixed use development. Pretty crazy.

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On 9/24/2020 at 1:08 AM, jmecklenborg said:

9/20/20:

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Update on John R Green lofts from this week, now with grey brick:

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The grey brick looks so much better then riverhaus

On 12/10/2020 at 9:45 AM, ucgrady said:

^I guess when you're in a CDP called Francisville you have to find a different name, so Hamlet on the Bend isn't the worst name I've ever heard. In positive news my parents will now be within walking distance of something potentially interesting which is surprising considering what that exit looked like when they moved out there in 2006. North Bend road went from two lanes to 7 lanes, an Amazon hub, a new library, a new interstate exit at Graves, a new elementary school , more suburban housing sprawl, and now a mixed use development. Pretty crazy.

 

This stupid project. The infrastructure has been done for months and no construction. It is and was a zoning debacle. I wouldn't be surprised to see it with zero progress in 2024. Which means it will be reduced to something very crappy and completely out of character with the horsefarms and $300-$1,000k homes in Francisville. Nobody is touching this and the Toebben development across the street will eat Pfill Dreeze lunch on this. He had to concede several things to the nearby HOA. He was even beaten on the name...it only became Hamlet on the Bend (dumb) because he was going to be sued by the nearby HOA (Thornwilde) for trying to steal the name recognition. 

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