^So if the productivity output by a council member is 5.3 times that of a typical city worker, we should ignore that metric and do what Pittsburgh does? That makes no sense. If you want to cut 15 city employees (so we have 2 council people), you could probably cut such dead weight in any department or just wait for 15 to people to retire, rather than get rid of folks who actually do stuff for the city. Further, I wouldn't classify Pittsburgh or Columbus Ohio as peers of Cleveland.  Think small=Be small.

 

Columbus has twice as many residents as Cleveland, and Pittsburgh has roughly the same as Cincinnati (~80,000 less). Also, how are you determining that council members do 5.3x the work of other employees? If it's comparing hours worked I don't think that equals productivity in either case. All these other cities have either 9 or 7 council members. Is Cleveland really getting that much more out of their 17? I think that's a fair question to ask.

^why the constant obsession with council? There are only 17 members. For a city as big and diverse as ours, I think we should have MORE council districts, because a good council person can actually get things done for residents. Currently They make up 0.3% of all city workers and they, in general, work a lot harder than your typical city worker and are not paid that much more on average.

 

Washington DC has about 650,000 people now and has 8 council members. It somehow still manages to represent everyone in the city.

 

Never understood why Cleveland still needs 17 members for a city of 395,000. I'm assuming the large council was a product of when Cleveland used to have 900k+ people.

 

In 1981 there were 33 council members in Cleveland. As recently as 2013 there were 19 members. I understand that people think 17 is still too large, and it might be, but the council has been considerably reduced as the city has shrunk.

My coworker went to go get a building permit last Friday, and the gentleman behind the desk was watching YouTube videos and completely ignoring the line at the counter. Once he realized, he went and got the paperwork from the first customer, went back to his desk, set it down, and continued to watch YouTube videos until it was over. This is the kinda crap that happens day in and out down there, and it's hard to back an income tax increase when you know this is happening. Why hire more incompetent people? How about get some quality people to begin with. Or hold individuals accountable.

 

Rant off.

 

People should take videos of stuff like this.  It will go viral and embarrass the city.  That may be the only way.

 

You can also drop an email to one of our many investigative television reporters in town.

 

There's a lot more phone cameras than there are reporters.  But yes it could be sent to the stations.

^why the constant obsession with council? There are only 17 members. For a city as big and diverse as ours, I think we should have MORE council districts, because a good council person can actually get things done for residents. Currently They make up 0.3% of all city workers and they, in general, work a lot harder than your typical city worker and are not paid that much more on average.

 

Washington DC has about 650,000 people now and has 8 council members. It somehow still manages to represent everyone in the city.

 

Never understood why Cleveland still needs 17 members for a city of 395,000. I'm assuming the large council was a product of when Cleveland used to have 900k+ people.

 

In 1981 there were 33 council members in Cleveland. As recently as 2013 there were 19 members. I understand that people think 17 is still too large, and it might be, but the council has been considerably reduced as the city has shrunk.

 

I forgot how many members there used to be! There were 33 members even when the city had "only" 575k! That's incredible. I don't know anything about the history of City Councils but it seems like Cleveland has had a large amount of members in proportion to it's population compared to other cities.

^why the constant obsession with council? There are only 17 members. For a city as big and diverse as ours, I think we should have MORE council districts, because a good council person can actually get things done for residents. Currently They make up 0.3% of all city workers and they, in general, work a lot harder than your typical city worker and are not paid that much more on average.

 

Washington DC has about 650,000 people now and has 8 council members. It somehow still manages to represent everyone in the city.

 

Never understood why Cleveland still needs 17 members for a city of 395,000. I'm assuming the large council was a product of when Cleveland used to have 900k+ people.

 

In 1981 there were 33 council members in Cleveland. As recently as 2013 there were 19 members. I understand that people think 17 is still too large, and it might be, but the council has been considerably reduced as the city has shrunk.

 

Just posted a link about this here: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=16011.new#new

^why the constant obsession with council? There are only 17 members. For a city as big and diverse as ours, I think we should have MORE council districts, because a good council person can actually get things done for residents. Currently They make up 0.3% of all city workers and they, in general, work a lot harder than your typical city worker and are not paid that much more on average.

Constant? I brought it up one and only one time. Big and diverse?? We have less than 80 square miles and under 400,000 people. Can you name each council person? I looked them up and have only ever heard of maybe five of them and one was only because of DUI's.

^why the constant obsession with council? There are only 17 members. For a city as big and diverse as ours, I think we should have MORE council districts, because a good council person can actually get things done for residents. Currently They make up 0.3% of all city workers and they, in general, work a lot harder than your typical city worker and are not paid that much more on average.

 

Washington DC has about 650,000 people now and has 8 council members. It somehow still manages to represent everyone in the city.

 

Never understood why Cleveland still needs 17 members for a city of 395,000. I'm assuming the large council was a product of when Cleveland used to have 900k+ people.

 

I wouldn't hold D.C. up as a beacon of successful municipal government. That said, it is a little silly that getting 2,000 votes can land a spot on the Cleveland council right now (though lowering the bar could also hypothetically provide more chances to upstarts/newcomers.)  I think the answer is probably somewhere in between.

 

As for the mayor's proposed tax hike, it's definitely a blow, but as a city resident at least I'd get better value for it with 87% of $'s coming from suburban commuters. Is it enough to push some people/businesses to the burbs?

^why the constant obsession with council? There are only 17 members. For a city as big and diverse as ours, I think we should have MORE council districts, because a good council person can actually get things done for residents. Currently They make up 0.3% of all city workers and they, in general, work a lot harder than your typical city worker and are not paid that much more on average.

 

Washington DC has about 650,000 people now and has 8 council members. It somehow still manages to represent everyone in the city.

 

Never understood why Cleveland still needs 17 members for a city of 395,000. I'm assuming the large council was a product of when Cleveland used to have 900k+ people.

 

In 1981 there were 33 council members in Cleveland. As recently as 2013 there were 19 members. I understand that people think 17 is still too large, and it might be, but the council has been considerably reduced as the city has shrunk.

 

Has their been a similar shrinkage in city employees?  I doubt it.  But I cannot find any city employment numbers online.

^Not the same time frame, but see this post from yesterday:

 

 

I was curious so looked it up:

 

City headcount immediately before the recession was about 5,300 (see page 22 of http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/sites/default/files/forms_publications/2009budget.pdf?id=2878)

 

As of 2013, the last audited year reported in posted budget docs, headcount was down by 15%, to about 4,500 (see page 70 of http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/sites/default/files/forms_publications/2015Budget.pdf)

 

Looks like Jackson's proposed budget would bring it back up to about 4,800, with most of the increase since FY 2013 in public safety and municipal courts (based on the reporting here: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/02/how_cleveland_spends_its_money.html#incart_story_package).

Spend a day with a council person. You will be amazed at how busy they are. Each is like a mayor for their ward and their CDC offers the neighborhood planning, events/programming, property inspection and even safety services.

 

I suggest decentralizing things like the building department, parks/recreation, garbage pickup, street maintenance, etc. to the CDCs. Put it closer to the neighborhood level where residents can have more access to the supervisors and workers can have more pride in serving the neighborhoods. Plus, as Cleveland starts annexing suburbs again, it will make this model more easily transferable to absorbing them while giving them some autonomy and local control! ;)

Spend a day with a council person. You will be amazed at how busy they are. Each is like a mayor for their ward and their CDC offers the neighborhood planning, events/programming, property inspection and even safety services.

 

I suggest decentralizing things like the building department, parks/recreation, garbage pickup, street maintenance, etc. to the CDCs. Put it closer to the neighborhood level where residents can have more access to the supervisors and workers can have more pride in serving the neighborhoods.

 

I almost made the same point about the psuedo-mayoral role they have.  Great post, until you threw in the "a word".  :)

Has their been a similar shrinkage in city employees?

 

Using the word in the retail rather than the Costanza context, I think the shrinkage has declined due to all the indictments.  Hope, anyway.

What are everyone's thoughts on the mayor appointing Fred Geis to the Planning Commission? At first glance, it seems odd to appoint such a high profile developer to the body that regulates development.

 

 

Mayor Frank Jackson appoints developer Fred Geis to Cleveland's City Planning Commission

 

By Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer

on February 22, 2016 at 2:42 PM, updated February 22, 2016 at 2:43 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – One of the city's most prominent real estate developers is preparing to take a seat on the Cleveland City Planning Commission, the public body that reviews project proposals and establishes sweeping plans for development.

 

Mayor Frank Jackson has appointed Fred Geis to fill a vacant seat on the commission, a seven-member board that meets twice a month. The choice of a high-profile developer, whose current projects include city-owned sites, is being met with surprise, applause and some questions about potential conflicts between Geis's interests and the public good.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/02/mayor_frank_jackson_appoints_d.html

That is absolutely ridiculous.

Developers have been calling the shots for a long time. This is what, transparency in government?

I like the idea of having people of such experience as part of the process assuming the commission is properly balanced. However, it's still probably a terrible idea. Makes me wonder what the new wave developers have cooking as far as personal rivalries, or friendships.

We should probably discuss the Planning Commission appointment here: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,29303.msg791565/topicseen.html#new. I didn't see there was a specific Planning Commission thread when I posted the article (and apparently UO's search function doesn't include thread titles).

Check out this maneuver from Mayor "Sly Fox" Jackson!

 

Shouting match, threat of lawsuit after vote on Cleveland's dirt bike track proposal

 

.......

 

During the contentious hearing, committee member Brian Kazy had been called out of the room for a meeting with Jackson on an unrelated matter. In Kazy's absence, Council President Kevin Kelley entered the room and announced that he had appointed himself to fill in for Kazy.

 

Kazy returned just as committee members had cast their votes and said he wished to vote no. But by then, Kelley already had vote in favor of the proposal and said Kazy was too late for his vote to count.

This administration has become an open sewer.  It's one thing to propose dumb stuff, another to ram it through like nothing else matters.

This administration has become an open sewer.  It's one thing to propose dumb stuff, another to ram it through like nothing else matters.

 

My new life's goal is to eventually end up someplace where the government isn't dysfunctional.

 

 

Check out this maneuver from Mayor "Sly Fox" Jackson!

 

Shouting match, threat of lawsuit after vote on Cleveland's dirt bike track proposal

 

.......

 

During the contentious hearing, committee member Brian Kazy had been called out of the room for a meeting with Jackson on an unrelated matter. In Kazy's absence, Council President Kevin Kelley entered the room and announced that he had appointed himself to fill in for Kazy.

 

Kazy returned just as committee members had cast their votes and said he wished to vote no. But by then, Kelley already had vote in favor of the proposal and said Kazy was too late for his vote to count.

 

Incredible.  Mayor Jackson, if you want to give your grandson a present, don't ask the taxpayers to pay for it.

 

Bet I can guess what it would have been called.  Quite Daleyesque.

 

Fortunately, Reed, Johnson, and Polensek got council as a whole to shut it down.  I suspect one of them will be "mayor elect" when this year ends.

I can't even believe this is happening.  The city is broke, needs to ask for a tax increase and can't even maintain the properties they already have.  This city deserves to continue to lose residents.

 

A divided Cleveland City Council approves $2.3 million dirt bike track proposal

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/a_divided_cleveland_city_counc.html

I really can't say the dirtbike track in GTA Vice City was effective in reducing crime there.  Seems like every kid was still in involved in some sort of gang.

I can't even believe this is happening.  The city is broke, needs to ask for a tax increase and can't even maintain the properties they already have.  This city deserves to continue to lose residents.

 

A divided Cleveland City Council approves $2.3 million dirt bike track proposal

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/a_divided_cleveland_city_counc.html

 

After the last recession most American urban governments have moved on from the corrupt politics of the 50s, 60s and 70s. Cleveland definitely hasn't.

IMO this is ridiculous, and we must hold those 9 council members who voted for this project while so many others parks already in the city are neglected, accountable.

 

Why does City Council think having a Dirt Bike Park will keep dirt bikes/4 wheelers off the street.  Cleveland will now have a another money-pit in cannot keep up that the majority of its residents will not use, and it will not solve the problem of riding dirt bikes, 4 wheelers on the streets of the city.

 

What a waste of taxpayer $$$$. How can we stop this waste of our $$$$?

IMO this is ridiculous, and we must hold those 9 council members who voted for this project while so many others parks already in the city are neglected, accountable.

 

Why does City Council think having a Dirt Bike Park will keep dirt bikes/4 wheelers off the street.  Cleveland will now have a another money-pit in cannot keep up that the majority of its residents will not use, and it will not solve the problem of riding dirt bikes, 4 wheelers on the streets of the city.

 

What a waste of taxpayer $$$$. How can we stop this waste of our $$$$?

 

If anything, I think this will make the problem of riding dirt bikes, etc even more of a problem.  I remember hearing about this when it was first proposed thinking it was the biggest joke, but it really not happening.  Here we are today and it's actually approved.  I don't post here a lot any more because there's just nothing exciting happening development wise.  Cleveland has become the biggest joke when it comes to urban development.  Detroit is booming, and Cleveland is faltering.  It's not about the lack of the new big proposals starting (that's not just a Cleveland thing), but how little activity is happening around the city, and most of the city is decaying to the point where it will not come back.  It's really sad.  I think there was a lot of hope last year just because there seemed to be momentum.  But that momentum has come to a complete standstill, and Cleveland's government does absolutely nothing to improve the city or its quality of life.  But oh wait, there's a dirt bike park coming!  That's progress.  Meanwhile, Cleveland remains America's poorest city, absolutely no job growth, and RTA is about to shut down completely in 5-10 years with the way things are going.  I hate to be negative because I am a huge fan of the city, but Cleveland really had a chance to go somewhere just a few years ago, and now it seems like one of, if not the only, major city in the country not making an impressive comeback.  Most of this falls completely on the leadership of Cleveland.

I just got back from a funeral in Detroit (I was all over the city) and there are some nice projects downtown, but the rest of the city is nowhere near booming. I'm frustrated with this project because it's silly. I'm also frustrated with leadership. We need a Mayor with more vision. There still is momentum, we need to capitalize on that. I really hope Frank moves on.

Another thing, is it me or am I making this up, but 6 months ago there was so much positivity. The Cavs won, we successfully hosted the RNC, there were big projects on the horizon, now the tone is the complete opposite.

This stupidity is why I'm opposed to those on here who demand that Burke be closed ASAP.

 

I'd rather have a functioning airport on the lakeshore than a giant unused plot of land controlled by city administrators with zero vision. Cleveland is not Chicago.

IMO this is ridiculous, and we must hold those 9 council members who voted for this project while so many others parks already in the city are neglected, accountable.

 

Why does City Council think having a Dirt Bike Park will keep dirt bikes/4 wheelers off the street.  Cleveland will now have a another money-pit in cannot keep up that the majority of its residents will not use, and it will not solve the problem of riding dirt bikes, 4 wheelers on the streets of the city.

 

What a waste of taxpayer $$$$. How can we stop this waste of our $$$$?

 

This is worse than a white elephant.  This qualifies as an "attractive nuisance".  To paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield, a lot of the people heavily involved in the dirt bike culture "aren't the boy scouts".  There will be squabbles over whose "turf" it is, and/or clashes between rivals.  Bike thefts, use of stolen bikes, and not too many of them will be trailered there or garaged there.  Plus, something tells me it won't be a "drug and gun" free zone.

 

Maybe this has to do with why younger black men on council with some degree of connection to the "streets" are against it?

 

For this, we are kicking out one of the oldest and most succesful youth football programs in the city?  At a cost of $5 per resident?

 

Ditch the track, reinforce the program, expand the youth athletics aspect, and see if you can get the Browns to kick in to help revitalize "Marion Motley Fields".

This stupidity is why I'm opposed to those on here who demand that Burke be closed ASAP.

 

I'd rather have a functioning airport on the lakeshore than a giant unused plot of land controlled by city administrators with zero vision. Cleveland is not Chicago.

 

Amen to this.  How many other coastal US cities have public housing directly on the lake or seashore?  We have it in at least two locations.

IMO this is ridiculous, and we must hold those 9 council members who voted for this project while so many others parks already in the city are neglected, accountable.

 

Why does City Council think having a Dirt Bike Park will keep dirt bikes/4 wheelers off the street.  Cleveland will now have a another money-pit in cannot keep up that the majority of its residents will not use, and it will not solve the problem of riding dirt bikes, 4 wheelers on the streets of the city.

 

What a waste of taxpayer $$$$. How can we stop this waste of our $$$$?

 

If anything, I think this will make the problem of riding dirt bikes, etc even more of a problem.  I remember hearing about this when it was first proposed thinking it was the biggest joke, but it really not happening.  Here we are today and it's actually approved.  I don't post here a lot any more because there's just nothing exciting happening development wise.  Cleveland has become the biggest joke when it comes to urban development.  Detroit is booming, and Cleveland is faltering.  It's not about the lack of the new big proposals starting (that's not just a Cleveland thing), but how little activity is happening around the city, and most of the city is decaying to the point where it will not come back.  It's really sad.  I think there was a lot of hope last year just because there seemed to be momentum.  But that momentum has come to a complete standstill, and Cleveland's government does absolutely nothing to improve the city or its quality of life.  But oh wait, there's a dirt bike park coming!  That's progress.  Meanwhile, Cleveland remains America's poorest city, absolutely no job growth, and RTA is about to shut down completely in 5-10 years with the way things are going.  I hate to be negative because I am a huge fan of the city, but Cleveland really had a chance to go somewhere just a few years ago, and now it seems like one of, if not the only, major city in the country not making an impressive comeback.  Most of this falls completely on the leadership of Cleveland.

 

I couldn't disagree more. We are actually in a great position at the moment and our real estate market is booming. (At least on the west side). We have droves of people looking to OWN in the city for the first time in a long time. Not just tremont. We are looking at vast areas of investment on the west side and pockets of the east side. Sorry the big glitzy projects have kind of dwindled at the moment but how many times on this very board have we preached about small incremental projects filling in the gaps as the way to truly improve the situation in cleveland. Detroit is where we were about 10 years ago. At the start of a big loft apt boom to fill up the empty buildings. Outside of downtown it's a mess. My company manages properties up there, and I've never seen such blight before. Don't eat me wrong, I love the city, but we are wayyyyyyu better off. I don't get the Cleveland.com negativity on this board

IMO this is ridiculous, and we must hold those 9 council members who voted for this project while so many others parks already in the city are neglected, accountable.

 

Why does City Council think having a Dirt Bike Park will keep dirt bikes/4 wheelers off the street.  Cleveland will now have a another money-pit in cannot keep up that the majority of its residents will not use, and it will not solve the problem of riding dirt bikes, 4 wheelers on the streets of the city.

 

What a waste of taxpayer $$$$. How can we stop this waste of our $$$$?

 

If anything, I think this will make the problem of riding dirt bikes, etc even more of a problem.  I remember hearing about this when it was first proposed thinking it was the biggest joke, but it really not happening.  Here we are today and it's actually approved.  I don't post here a lot any more because there's just nothing exciting happening development wise.  Cleveland has become the biggest joke when it comes to urban development.  Detroit is booming, and Cleveland is faltering.  It's not about the lack of the new big proposals starting (that's not just a Cleveland thing), but how little activity is happening around the city, and most of the city is decaying to the point where it will not come back.  It's really sad.  I think there was a lot of hope last year just because there seemed to be momentum.  But that momentum has come to a complete standstill, and Cleveland's government does absolutely nothing to improve the city or its quality of life.  But oh wait, there's a dirt bike park coming!  That's progress.  Meanwhile, Cleveland remains America's poorest city, absolutely no job growth, and RTA is about to shut down completely in 5-10 years with the way things are going.  I hate to be negative because I am a huge fan of the city, but Cleveland really had a chance to go somewhere just a few years ago, and now it seems like one of, if not the only, major city in the country not making an impressive comeback.  Most of this falls completely on the leadership of Cleveland.

 

I couldn't disagree more. We are actually in a great position at the moment and our real estate market is booming. (At least on the west side). We have droves of people looking to OWN in the city for the first time in a long time. Not just tremont. We are looking at vast areas of investment on the west side and pockets of the east side. Sorry the big glitzy projects have kind of dwindled at the moment but how many times on this very board have we preached about small incremental projects filling in the gaps as the way to truly improve the situation in cleveland. Detroit is where we were about 10 years ago. At the start of a big loft apt boom to fill up the empty buildings. Outside of downtown it's a mess. My company manages properties up there, and I've never seen such blight before. Don't eat me wrong, I love the city, but we are wayyyyyyu better off. I don't get the Cleveland.com negativity on this board

 

I actually think you are both right to a degree. 

 

I just sent a comment to the Mayor's Action Center pointing out the absurdity of this all, and inviting the Mayor and his staff to check out this topic on Urban Ohio.  I urge everyone here to do the same:

 

http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/CityofCleveland/Home/contact/MayorsActionCenter

This stupidity is why I'm opposed to those on here who demand that Burke be closed ASAP.

 

I'd rather have a functioning airport on the lakeshore than a giant unused plot of land controlled by city administrators with zero vision. Cleveland is not Chicago.

 

Amen to this.  How many other coastal US cities have public housing directly on the lake or seashore?  We have it in at least two locations.

 

New York has a few spots in Queens and the Bronx but it also has a lot more coastline and people compared to Cleveland.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/east-93rd-and-raymond-avenue-shut-down-following-motorcycle-crash

 

The victim is probably a juvenile, so we won’t learn too much about a few key things.  And I daresay if he had any contraband, it’s likely to disappear because it doesn’t fit Hizzoner’s narrative.

 

But this isn’t the first accident on the streets of Cleveland involving dirt bikes and I believe at least one other one was fatal.  The riders may be immune to the laws of Cleveland and Ohio but they are not immune to the laws of physics.  Mayoral directives don’t impact those.

 

And no, a central track isn’t the answer. 

Love it when a mayor is so arrogant he brags about uncreative solutions to the bottom falling out of our housing market...

 

While Mayor, I've spent $70M on vacant home demolition over 10 yrs. We designated $5M more this yr to deter crime hot spots. #MyMayorJackson

https://t.co/G1zoYyKiMv

Love it when a mayor is so arrogant he brags about uncreative solutions to the bottom falling out of our housing market...

 

While Mayor, I've spent $70M on vacant home demolition over 10 yrs. We designated $5M more this yr to deter crime hot spots. #MyMayorJackson

https://t.co/G1zoYyKiMv

 

Kevin Leeson's Twitter comment is so right. Another reason why NOT to allow Mayor Jackson another term as mayor.

Good lord, Frank, this animal???

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/11/former_judge_who_beat_his_wife.html

 

 

 

Former judge who beat his wife hired by city of Cleveland, Channel 3 reports

Love it when a mayor is so arrogant he brags about uncreative solutions to the bottom falling out of our housing market...

 

While Mayor, I've spent $70M on vacant home demolition over 10 yrs. We designated $5M more this yr to deter crime hot spots. #MyMayorJackson

https://t.co/G1zoYyKiMv

 

Damn, I went to like and retweet that and I found out I already have.

Mayor Frank Jackson's office says Cleveland will hold "family-friendly events for dirt bike riders" in the muni lot this summer. It's touted as family friendly and to keep the bikes off city streets -- how are the bikes going to get there? I doubt these kids have access to pick-up trucks or trailers to get these bikes there legally.....

 

What is with Frank and dirt bike riders. Is it because he has that "troubled" nephew who's into the scene?

A was just actually thinking about the dirt bikers last night.  With the Main Ave Bridge down to one lane, CPD finally has a perfect spot to trap them all in one spot. 

Dirt bikes have no place in this city or any other.  They are designed expressly for use in rural areas.

What is with Frank and dirt bike riders. Is it because he has that "troubled" nephew who's into the scene?

 

Grandson.  Live-in grandson IIRC.

 

Unfortunately they are cheap, often stolen, and agile.  So they can evade the police even if they are allowed to chase them, and if the rider needs to bolt on foot it's not a big loss. 

This reeks of so much insecurity on behalf of Mayor Frank and his minders.....

 

 

And.....  What's up with the militarism?

 

 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2018/11/shaker-heights-school-district-cancels-professional-days-offers-grief-counseling-after-teacher-killed.html

 

Congratulations Frank. Another win for City Hall

I have reluctantly accepted Mayor Jackson as the "lesser of evils" in recent years, but I'm disgusted by this series of events, and think it should result in his resignation.  Hopefully the drumbeat gets a little louder among those that actually have a microphone in the city, though I'm not holding my breath. 

I'm hearing that Kevin Kelley and Matt Zone are among those interested in running for mayor in 2021. That election cannot come soon enough. I'm hoping that Zone runs and wins....

 

 

9 hours ago, KJP said:

I'm hearing that Kevin Kelley and Matt Zone are among those interested in running for mayor in 2021. That election cannot come soon enough. I'm hoping that Zone runs and wins....

 

 

 

Kelley not only no but Hell No, too much Jackson's yes man.  Zone could convince me.  I still like Zack and Jeff Johnson would surprise, positively.  Tony Madalone, or Drew Carey doing a Trump would be ideal but unlikely.  I could go for my own councilman (Polensek) trying but why should he?

 

Here's the thing:  the Mason hiring felt weirder than anything since Pat O'Malley's plea bargain and the latter was followed by some high profile FBI visits.   Does Mason have something on Hizzoner, perhaps involving grandson protection?