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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Cleveland mayor’s grandson named as ‘prime suspect’ in West Side murder case; police not planning to hand over investigation to another agency

https://www.cleveland19.com/2019/09/10/cleveland-mayors-grandson-named-prime-suspect-west-side-murder-case-police-not-planning-hand-over-investigation-another-agency/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Is it typical for a city to turn over an investigation like this in such a case? Is that what NYC or Chicago would do? Or are people suggesting it because Cleveland is deemed too corrupt to do a proper investigation (as exemplified by the city prosecutor turning a blind eye)? And what police department has the time to handle another city's murder? Who would we give it to? If I was CPD (who makes the decision here), I wouldn't want to give away an investigation either.

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On 9/7/2019 at 8:31 AM, Cleveland Trust said:

 

The victim had six separate entries in the Cuyahoga County Common Pleas court website, for much more than that gun charge.   

 

Note:  this makes things look worse for FQJ if anything, it looks gang related.

The mayor finally speaks about his grandson, in a video:

 

 

"You can choose to believe the media or you can choose to believe me" he says.

 

I'm watching it now. Its REALLY bizzare. He states in the intro that he was interviewed about everything and then 'here is the interview'.  I was expecting a media person or something. Instead---Its him in the same background as the intro, but sitting in a chair, with bad lighting---and the questions are not even read --- (in case someone recognizes the voice?) instead they are posted in text in the video and mayor responds. Its like he wrote the questions himself. You never see the "interviewer" or anything. Its so strange---its done to make him look not complicit---but it actually was so poorly done and so strangely---it makes him look VERY guilty of interfering with things about his grandson. 

 

"Now you can choose to believe the media, or you can choose to believe me" - Mayor Frank Jackson

 

Sounds like a more toned down version of Trump's Fake News! cries. 

^I was ready to give him the benefit of doubt when he said that until i saw the fake interview that began a minute later.

The City's Twitter account said that the interview was conducted by Cleveland.com 

What's the point of that video---so he's not impeached? He won't be. Is it so people back off so CPD can run the investigation without an uproar? Is it to protect his legacy?  Whatever the case, that shoddy video---that didn't even use a human that was posed as a media interviewer---only makes him worse. On the national level, this is embarrassing for the Cleveland--not his control, but his cover-up attempt.

10 minutes ago, TPH2 said:

"Now you can choose to believe the media, or you can choose to believe me" - Mayor Frank Jackson

 

Sounds like a more toned down version of Trump's Fake News! cries. 

 

This did have a very Trumpy feel to it. 

6 minutes ago, TPH2 said:

The City's Twitter account said that the interview was conducted by Cleveland.com 

 

I would be SHOCKED if that were true.  Every video I've seen by them has their logo on it. And the lighting is so horrible. Just watch any 20 seconds of it and you'll see what I'm talking about.  Someone should alert cleveland.com about that claim as well. (I don't have twitter.)

59 minutes ago, Pugu said:

 

I would be SHOCKED if that were true.  Every video I've seen by them has their logo on it. And the lighting is so horrible. Just watch any 20 seconds of it and you'll see what I'm talking about.  Someone should alert cleveland.com about that claim as well. (I don't have twitter.)

 

 

 

 

^thanks. but still waiting to see cleveland.com officially take credit for it....

Oh my---it really was cleveland.com?  did you see the video? I know the PD has cut like 90% of its staff over the years, but even a high schooler could make a far more professional video and interview. there was no human interviewer or Robert Higgs---it was only jackson talking the whole time.  

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11 hours ago, freefourur said:

This did have a very Trumpy feel to it. 

 

Cheap rhetoric aside, the Trump administration probably treats the press better than the Jackson administration does.

Maybe the mayor's grandson was the videographer.

I would love a mayoral recall, but I’m not sure who’d be waiting in the wings to take over.

 

23 hours ago, Pugu said:

Oh my---it really was cleveland.com?  did you see the video? I know the PD has cut like 90% of its staff over the years, but even a high schooler could make a far more professional video and interview. there was no human interviewer or Robert Higgs---it was only jackson talking the whole time.  

 

Higgs? So, in other words, there really was no interviewer! ?

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I guess I was not alone in feeling the true bizareness of the format that apparently others have asked for the full, unedited (removal of higgs) version--so the city reposted it. I got this email from city hall:  "We've been asked to provide the full unedited interview Mayor Jackson recently provided to Cleveland.com. The interview and the Mayor's intro are below. Stay tuned!"

 

 

  • 2 weeks later...

Mayor Frank Jackson's great-grandson faces new charge for participating in a criminal gang

 

"Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson's 16-year-old great-grandson has been charged for participating in gang activity over the past year.

According to a Cuyahoga County Court of Common Pleas Juvenile Court Division complaint, the 16-year-old is charged with participating in a criminal gang, a second-degree felony."

 

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/mayor-frank-jacksons-great-grandson-charged-for-participating-in-a-criminal-gang

  • 3 months later...

That's like asking the owner of Spitzer cars to show up every time you come in for a oil change. There's much to pick on him for, but this wouldn't be the thing.

  • 2 weeks later...

https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2020/01/mayor-frank-jackson-warns-passage-of-city-council-reduction-issue-would-steal-clevelanders-voices-in-government.html

 

Of all the issues surrounding the city and region, THIS is what woke up Frank from hibernation? To give a ridiculous statement that the city needs to maintain its 17 mini-fiefdoms? Regionalization is needed on a city proper and metro level, Frank, and a 65ish percentage drop in population should correlate to council representation. 

 

Ever since the Public Square fiasco, the guy, who had a pretty respectable and benign mayorial career prior, just keeps missing the ball time and time again: the barriers on Superior, which are obviously just a middle finger and costly tantrum, the dirt bike nonsense, the Amazon pitch, the lack of city leadership towards keeping SW, the criminals in his family and his support/acquiescence, and now this comment. 

 

This has been some term.

  • 3 months later...

Jackson continues to display his inaction...   

 

I-Team: All recyclables in Cleveland going to the landfill 

CLEVELAND – The FOX 8 I-Team has learned the City of Cleveland is now dumping all recycling into a landfill.

Last year, our investigations revealed breakdowns in the city’s recycling system.

And now, we’ve found, in Cleveland,  separating your bottles, cans, and plastic has become a complete waste of your time.

 

https://fox8.com/news/i-team/i-team-all-recyclables-in-cleveland-going-to-the-landfill/

1 hour ago, Cleburger said:

Jackson continues to display his inaction...   

 

I-Team: All recyclables in Cleveland going to the landfill 

CLEVELAND – The FOX 8 I-Team has learned the City of Cleveland is now dumping all recycling into a landfill.

Last year, our investigations revealed breakdowns in the city’s recycling system.

And now, we’ve found, in Cleveland,  separating your bottles, cans, and plastic has become a complete waste of your time.

 

https://fox8.com/news/i-team/i-team-all-recyclables-in-cleveland-going-to-the-landfill/

 

Some discussion on this over in the city discussion section of the forum here:
 

 

  • 1 month later...

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

He's only 73 years old, but should we be concerned about early onset Alzheimers here?

Makes no sense for a mayor to say something like that.  Especially one that doesn't have a history of being professionaly crude, like another politician in an executive position I could name.

Phew, I was concerned no one was gonna bring up butthole-gate.

1 hour ago, E Rocc said:



  Especially one that doesn't have a history of being professionaly crude

 

True. he is known to be inarticulate but not crude or vulgar. That was just weird.


 

  • 1 month later...

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 6 months later...

^Such a stand up guy.

 

"Jackson was charged late last week with first-degree misdemeanor domestic violence in Cleveland Municipal Court in a domestic dispute involving him and his child’s mother, according to court records.

A warrant issued Wednesday says Frank Q. Jackson “did knowingly cause or attempt to cause physical harm to the mother of his child.” He is accused of hitting his child’s mother in the head several times, “causing her to hit the couch and fall on the floor,” the warrant states."

On 1/24/2021 at 11:43 AM, TBideon said:

He's baaaack

 

https://www.cleveland.com/crime/2021/01/cleveland-mayors-grandson-frank-q-jackson-in-custody-after-dragging-parma-officer-during-traffic-stop-police-pursuit.html

 

"Cleveland mayor’s grandson Frank Q. Jackson in custody after dragging Parma officer during traffic stop, police pursuit"

Love how the cop has to explain why there are 2 cops present.  One would think FJQ would know the ropes by now with cops given his long term crime history and violent behavior.

 

geez Frank Q, just let the cops search your ride...you initially said yes and the you start your well learned game playing.

 

just a small sampling of what cops deal with every shift.  
 

dragging a cop and then a high speed chase?  For what?
 

simple case of not cooperating or otherwise being compliant. Surprised to see this given that it doesn’t fit the racist and black killing white cop narrative. Lucky no one was in FQJ’s ride filming and posting out of context snippets so cops look like racist nazi aggressors victimizing black folks...at least until the cop body-cam video is released.

 

FQJ needs some jail time.  Where are his parents? Why is grandpops Mayor Frank stuck dealingwith this POS?

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49 minutes ago, CLENYC said:

This is also the Mayor that vouched for a wife murderer.

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58 minutes ago, CLENYC said:

 

To add, why hasn’t grandpops Big Frank hooked this grandson up with a cushy city job? After all he set Lance Mason up with one; at least until Mason stabbed his ex wife to death on her home driveway in front of their young daughters

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16 minutes ago, cle_guy90 said:

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2021/02/mayor-frank-jackson-hopes-2021-nfl-draft-will-be-best-we-can-get-it-in-person-but-wont-ask-for-future-event.html

 

Of course Frank.  Don't ask for a future event that could potentially have a $150 million economic impact even if this current one goes virtual.  This guy has got to go.

 

Nah you're way off. He's sleepy, like a fox. Everyone knows the first step to negotiation is to act super ambivalent and pretend that any continued effort isn't worth your while.  

 

Just watch, the NFL will be begging for another round in the CLE. 

  • 1 month later...

Just saw this announcement on City of Cleveland Facebook.  Maybe Frank will announce candidacy for another term?    It's at 5:30 pm, so he'll be nearing his bedtime.... 

 

 

Please join Mayor Frank G. Jackson on Wednesday, March 10th at 5:30 p.m. for a conversation on public safety, COVID-19 vaccines and more.

On the night of the event, registered participants will receive a phone call. Just answer the call to enter the telephone town hall. If you are unable to participate by phone but would like to listen during or after, tune in on the City of Cleveland’s Facebook page where the call will be livestreamed.

 

https://vekeo.com/mayorfrankjackson/

  • 1 month later...

That ought to help Jackson's reelection chances....

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Well, it's not like it's his grandson

 

On 3/5/2021 at 11:20 AM, Cleburger said:

Please join Mayor Frank G. Jackson on Wednesday, March 10th at 5:30 p.m. for a conversation on public safety, .....

 

 

2 hours ago, KJP said:

That ought to help Jackson's reelection chances....

 

 

25 minutes ago, bjk said:

Well, it's not like it's his grandson

 

Between the various members of his family (especially the ones who share his name: grandson, great-grandson) and his advisors/friends have done plenty to harm public safety.  Wonder if those individuals came up in that discussion that Cleburger posted last month. 

  • 4 weeks later...

Frank's shenanigan's around protecting his grandson, Frank Q, is finally catching up to him, and making national news.

 

He’s a Big City Mayor. His Grandsons Are Suspected Gang Members.

Frank G. Jackson rose to power in Cleveland as a champion of the people. But a lawsuit says he has used his influence to protect his family from the law....

 

"“Q.’s at the mayor’s house right now,” one of the would-be arresting officers said into his cell phone as he walked up the driveway. “He just pulled up. [Sergeant] Gomez asked us to detain him. So we’re gonna go up to the door and try to grab him.”

But that evening, Mayor Jackson had a phone conversation of his own with his chief of police, Calvin Williams...."

 

https://newrepublic.com/article/162209/frank-jackson-cleveland-mayor-gang-members

 

Cleveland mayor allegedly uses status to protect gang member grandson

 

"Cleveland Mayor Frank G. Jackson allegedly used his influence to shield his grandson — a reputed gang member — from being arrested in connection to a fatal shooting that still remains unsolved two years later, according to a report...."

 

https://nypost.com/2021/05/03/cleveland-mayor-protects-gang-member-grandson-from-arrest/

 

 

.....quite the legacy to leave behind after 16 years in office.

Funny how this is reported with more depth by a national outlet than any of our local media.  

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