i'm sorry, brain fart, i meant burke, my bad

I'm sorry, brain fart, i meant burke, my bad

 

OK.  However, I think you're wrong about Burke as the similarities between Burke and Meigs are total different except for their lakefront location.

 

Burke is used for the government, general aviation, and private aircraft.

 

As a person who uses Hopkins quite a bit, if that traffic was to move to Hopkins we'd be a delayed/choked airport a la LGA, BOS, PHL or DCA.  Therefore making commercial expansion harder and operations that much worse.

 

I don't think those that want Burke close, fully understand what will happen at Hopkins if it's closed.

 

Now back to the Mayor....

If you combine Daley's fire and histrionics with Jackson's honesty then you've got yourself a pretty good mayor. I do think Jackson is an honest man, just as Daley is a corrupt dictator. If Daley were Italian, they'd probably call him El Duce.

I really like Jackson.  I will take honesty any day over fake flair.

I liked Jackson at first, mostly because Campbell made me feel sick to my stomach (in much the same way George Bush does).

 

Since he was elected, though, I've heard really nothing but negative things about him.  News reports have left me feeling neutral or have reinforced my positive opinion about him.  But, yet, I still hear negative things about him. 

 

Most recently, this redeployment of the police made me pause.  I guess I just don't understand, but it seems like the wrong move to make.

 

So, I like him, but I'm not sure if that's justified.

 

In my defense, I wasn't a citizen of Cleveland, itself, until three weeks ago, so, hopefully, now that I've got a vested interested, I can learn more about Jackson and his policies and achievements and develop a better opinion.

 

Can anyone toss out a good place to start doing that before I start digging?

Chris is very bright and forward thinking. I would vote for him in a heart beat. I would be suprised if he could pull it off though.

 

I feel that he's a very hard worker, dedicated to the city (he truly cares about the betterment of Cleveland rather than his own political agenda) and that he's a great public servant.  However, he's not a visionary leader that people can stand behind. 

Bingo.

 

PS, I may start handing out my fliers for Chris Ronayne now, whom is all of the above, plus the visionary leader part.

my feeling is Jackson is a good man. That does not make a person a good Mayor. He gets bad advice I think. But I hate phoney graffitti cleaning publicity stunts ala Daley. Any good examples out there?

I like Jackson and think he does somethings very well.  He is good at doing the boring stuff well. It is not sexy, but it is very necessary. He is not a visionary though. If we could have a Jackson/Ronayne mix, we'd really benefit as a city. Overall, I think Cimperman would make the best mayor.

Well, he's no Kwame Kilpatrick.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

May 19, 2008

News Advisory

Cleveland Welcomes New

Workforce Development Director

 

CLEVELAND – Mayor Frank G. Jackson, Cuyahoga County Board of Commissioners, and Chair of the Workforce Investment Board Quentin McCorvey of Key Bank will announce the new Workforce Development Director at the Positively Cleveland offices on Tuesday May 20, 2008.

 

WHO: Mayor Frank G. Jackson

Cuyahoga County Board of Commissioners Representative

Quentin McCorvey, Key Bank

 

WHAT: Announcement of Workforce Development Director

 

WHEN: Tuesday May 20, 2008

1:00 PM

 

WHERE: Positively Cleveland

The Higbee Building

100 Public Square, Suite 100

Mayor Jackson unveiled an updated urban agenda this week (the original came out in February 2008). It goes into some detail (not all of the specifics are quite hammered out yet, it seems) in regards to what he has done to better the city and his plans to continue these improvements in the near future.

 

Click <a href="http://portal.cleveland-oh.gov/clnd_images/PDF/UrbanAgenda.pdf"> here for the updated agenda </a>.

I'll post this here...interesting news.  I wonder if they'll be able to go to the Cleveland Orchestra concert?

 

Cleveland Mayor Jackson to host French delegation

By JAY MILLER

 

2:51 pm, July 1, 2009

 

Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson will be hosting a delegation from Rouen, France, over the Fourth of July weekend.

 

The two cities have been sister cities since 2008. The mayor made an initial visit to Rouen in June 2008 as part of his trip on Continental Airlines’ inaugural Cleveland-to-Paris service. The mayor hopes to position Cleveland as a gateway to the Midwest for international firms.

 

More at

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20090701/FREE/907019926

 

 

^A good example of the outreach Mayor Jackson's administration has done to international cities and groups.  Referring to the conversation in the population thread, this is working toward attracting not only new businesses and the jobs that go with it, but also immigration.

 

Kudos. 

 

 

(The Mayor is off my sh*tlist now that the MM drama is nearly over)

(The Mayor is off my sh*tlist now that the MM drama is nearly over)

 

He's not off mine.  This Rouen thing is OK, but I just read the "updated agenda" jpop posted and I think it's a blueprint for a whole buncha nothin.  Nothing in there even raised my eyebrow.  We have major problems and they're pretty much ignored.  To the extent they aren't, they're glossed over with approaches that IMO just won't do much.

He's not off mine.  This Rouen thing is OK, but I just read the "updated agenda" jpop posted and I think it's a blueprint for a whole buncha nothin.  Nothing in there even raised my eyebrow.  We have major problems and they're pretty much ignored.  To the extent they aren't, they're glossed over with approaches that IMO just won't do much.

 

Id have to agree with you...  Maybe his quite approach will reap some worthwhile things, but we really need something more than that right now.  Too bad it doesn't look like there will be a better option in the upcoming mayoral election..

Although my period of being a bit down on Cleveland is beginning to pass, I think I will always have a bad taste in my mouth towards Jackson after some of the shenanigans and somewhat detrimental lack of leadership from the past year. 

 

*After seeing the Midtown thread, I had to come back and hightlight and edit.  Poor leader, lack of foresight, squandering potential......  For what, some short term bragging rights to some ill conceived, ill located projects... What a bufoon!

I think that his efforts to reach out to the international business community are an EXCELLENT step forward, though. These steps may not solve every problem, but they're part of laying foundations to move Cleveland further into the future economically. Many of Cleveland's problems right now are economic in nature. With globalization spreading more and more in today's economy, Cleveland no longer has a choice to keep itself out of the global economy, and it has to do whatever it can to show the GLOBAL business community that it's a player on that field. It's only unfortunate that it's waited this long to do so.

 

My hope is that Cleveland continues to grow in this capacity and becomes even more of an international beacon for business and commerce. There's no reason it can't/shouldn't.

I certainly dont disagree with you there jpop.  These are very important things to be doing.

 

But....  Where is the rest of the administration....  Where is the planning department.... He could really use their guidance (if indeed they were all working together on the betterment of the city).

 

Oh wait, I did talk to someone from there not long ago, and they all seem to be behind everything about Jackson....  Including some of the very bad decisions and in-action as of late.  (Gee, he must be a really nice guy)     

OK, I just got up to speed about the 14 acres gobbled up along Euclid Ave, at the behest of the mayor.  I am very let down by his decision, or inability to convince the hospital board to preserve the Euclid Ave street frontage for eventual TOD.

I'll post this here...interesting news.  I wonder if they'll be able to go to the Cleveland Orchestra concert?

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20090701/FREE/907019926

 

Cleveland Mayor Jackson to host French delegation

By JAY MILLER

 

2:51 pm, July 1, 2009

 

Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson will be hosting a delegation from Rouen, France, over the Fourth of July weekend.

 

The two cities have been sister cities since 2008. The mayor made an initial visit to Rouen in June 2008 as part of his trip on Continental Airlines’ inaugural Cleveland-to-Paris service. The mayor hopes to position Cleveland as a gateway to the Midwest for international firms.

 

 

Follow-up:

 

http://www.examiner.com/x-2006-Cleveland-Human-Interest-Examiner~y2009m7d6-Rouen-France-and-Cleveland-Ohio-continue-sister-city-relationship

 

Rouen, France and Cleveland, Ohio continue sister city relationship

July 6, 9:45 AM

 

 

Mayor Valerie Fourneyron, along with a dozen officals from Rouen’s universities and economic development agencies came to Cleveland last week on a mission. The French delegation launched a five day trip Thursday focused on building business, cultural and educational ties.

 

Bonjour mon ami.

 

Mayor Fourneyron of Rouen and Cleveland’s Mayor Frank Jackson spoke upon their commitment to work together during a City Hall media briefing last week.  The two cities may not speak the same language but they share the same economic challenges.

 

This is not the first time the two cities have come together.  Some may remember last year the city of Rouen hosted Mayor Jackson’s delegation.  The exchange continued into the summer as a member of Rouen’s Chamber of Commerce worked at the Greater Cleveland Partnership. Then in the fall a Cleveland business delegation meet with two dozen companies while attending a Rouen trade show. This summer Cleveland returned the mayoral delegation hosting honors. 

 

Rouen’s visit was expected to have them meet with officals at the Greater Cleveland Partnership, Cleveland State University, Cleveland Clinic, University Hospitals, Case Western Reserve University and Cleveland-Cuyahoga County Port Authority. 

 

Rouen, captial city of Normandy located in northwestern France, developed a sister city relationship with Cleveland through the efforts of the Northern Ohio Chapter of the French-American Chamber of Commerce and the Lubrizol Corporation.   

 

The group is expected to wrap their visit this week.   

Were they here for the Orchestra at Public Square?

 

 

 

 

 

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Balls to the wall:

 

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/20052491/detail.html

 

Cleveland Mayor Heading To Nova Scotia

 

POSTED: 3:33 pm EDT July 14, 2009

UPDATED: 4:17 pm EDT July 14, 2009

 

 

CLEVELAND -- Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson will travel to Halifax, Nova Scotia Tuesday to discuss a possible collaboration.

 

Jackson will lead a delegation there to discuss collaboration between the Cleveland Port Authority and the Port of Halifax.

 

The mayor said Cleveland has an important advantage being on Lake Erie, and that is key to economic development opportunities in the global marketplace.

Awesome.

More info from the PD:

 

Mayor Frank Jackson to tour Port of Halifax, Nova Scotia

by Tom Breckenridge/Plain Dealer Reporter

Tuesday July 14, 2009, 5:17 PM

 

CLEVELAND -- Mayor Frank Jackson will get a firsthand look at business prospects for Cleveland during a tour Wednesday of a Canadian port.

 

Jackson will lead a 13-person delegation of port, civic and union leaders to the Port of Halifax, Nova Scotia.

 

More at

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/07/mayor_frank_jackson_to_tour_po.html

Well since he's mayor again, and since there was nobody better running, I thought I would post this from the Scene.  Kindo sums up my feelings of dull Mr Jackson..

 

"With all due respect, Mr. Mayor, you're missing the point. The voters didn't elect you to manage the city. They elected you to lead it. And leadership, like it or not, involves no small amount of style."

 

http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/waiting-for-jackson-20/Content?oid=1716883

I brought this over from the waterfront line discussion.

 

This is not the place for that discussion and I would be pleased to have it in the correct place.  To the extent I strayed off topic I withdraw the comment.  However, in defense of those of you who live in the city he has done nothing to bring badly needed light industrial jobs for male, semi-skilled workers into this town; is doing nothing that I can see in his second term to do so, and that is what should offend you. 

 

It's in the right place now!

 

If male, semi-skilled workers seeking light industrial jobs are unhappy, perhaps, they need to up their game. 

 

Cleveland is no longer a blue collar town and those complaining about no jobs need to realize that.  Medical, Finance, Banking run this town now.  I say, get with the program or be left further behind.

 

It's up to each person to make it happen, success for individuals, streets, communities, neighborhoods does not rest solely on the shoulders of the Mayor.  If you want change be a part of that change!

^If only more of the city could realize this...

 

The city prospered based on its location during the industrial revolution (though most people don't realize that the city would be considered "white collar" before this time).

 

As of right now, the city has not come to the point where biotech companies and other related businesses manufacture their parts in the city. However, hopefully that is where things will head. Though I can agree that people need to catch up with what's going on today, it still would be good to have some manufacturing jobs around. Don't know if we'll ever get the 80,000+ jobs we lost during the 2001 recession back, however.

 

Getting back on topic, I'm a fan of the mayor's work regarding the city's neighborhoods.  However, I can agree that we need more of a vocal cheerleader for this town.  We get enough bad news here thanks to our local news media, and a change in the collective mindset of all Clevelanders would do wonders here.

FYI...right now!

 

Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson gives his fifth State of the City address today

By Mark Gillispie, The Plain Dealer

March 04, 2010, 9:16AM

 

The Plain DealerCleveland Mayor Frank Jackson.Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson delivers his fifth State of the City address today at the Crowne Plaza Hotel, 777 St. Clair Ave. According to a news release from the mayor's office, the speech is scheduled to begin at "approximately" 12:22 p.m. (That's a pretty good approximation.)

 

A copy of the speech will be posted on Cleveland.com when it becomes available. It is supposed to be posted on Jackson's Web Site at 12:30 p.m. today.

 

MORE AT http://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/index.ssf/2010/03/cleveland_mayor_frank_jackson_11.html

Drew Cary saves Cleveland, Mayor Prosperity Responds:

 

"Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson sees it both ways.

 

"The people of the city of Cleveland will save Cleveland," he said in a phone interview last week."

 

Nero (Jackson) fiddles while Rome (Cleveland) burns (economically). 

 

^Perhaps you would feel more comfortable at cleveland.bomb

 

This goes for everyone.  If your posts are nothing more than nonconstructive complaints and/or insults keep it to yourself or find another venue other than this forum.

Ok here is the constructive comment for the, "Ohio Politics, Mayor Jackson" thread.  Hope it meets with your approval.  Cleveland is in desperate need of low skill, light manufacturing jobs to employ the thousands of 18-25 year old inner city men (some recently released from the criminal justice system) who have no work, no high school diploma or equivalent, low literacy skills, low or no job skills, etc.  The failure to do so will make some neighborhoods in Cleveland unlivable and will prevent: i) middle class citizens of any race, and ii) manufacturing businesses from moving/relocating into those neighborhoods.  The jobs need to come from outside the NEO region but not from outside the country.  The Mayor's willful failure to recognize this problem will absolutely result in the failure of Cleveland.  he is constantly chasing after either high tech or skilled union jobs which these people will never qualify for.  We are at a tipping point  and if we don't get some new leadership soon all the progress made by Mayor White will be lost.

 

 

Now please go to the Convention Center thread and delete all the negative comments made about the County Commissioners. 

Enjoy your time off; when one of the Mods makes a simple request - you don't to have to agree, but you sure as h#ll don't give them grief.

Finally, someone is saying that the emperor has no clothes:

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Mayor Frank Jackson knows critics and friends alike want him to think big, be bold. And in proposing to hand a Chinese company what amounts to a 10-year monopoly on selling the city millions of dollars in LED lights, the mayor insists that "is exactly what I'm doing."

 

Far less certain is whether he's being smart.

 

 

 

more: http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/05/mayor_jacksons_critics_fear_ci.html

I agree with most of that opinion piece, especially

"...his [Mayor Jackson] sincerity and commitment to Cleveland are endearing. For a politician, he's as genuine as they come. And Chris Warren, the mayor's economic development chief, knows what he's doing."

Just because someone does not present themselves like a bold in-your-face loud selling used car salesmen, or obnoxious commercial.... does not mean that they don't aspire for greatness. Man we have seen enough of the loud hot air too! The fact that the guy travels to explore new opportunity and looks beyond his own backyard, says something. I wish more Americans would pursue a passport to see the world from beyond the confines of the suburbs. Frank is more a listener than talker. Something else we need more of as well.

It is not a question of being quiet or loud.  It is a question of understanding business and standing up to the entrenched power structure (unions, poverty pimps) to get some low wage jobs into this town and not being part of that power structure.  Somehow Mike White saw beyond where and what he came from and what was necessary.  In six years I  see no evidence that Frank Jackson does.  I agree that he travels, etc. but he is chasing pipe dreams.  Has he traveled to Chicago, Atlanta and Detroit to entice some of their industries to come here? How about Dayton?

It is not a question of being quiet or loud.  It is a question of understanding business and standing up to the entrenched power structure (unions, poverty pimps) to get some low wage jobs into this town and not being part of that power structure.  Somehow Mike White saw beyond where and what he came from and what was necessary.  In six years I  see no evidence that Frank Jackson does.  I agree that he travels, etc. but he is chasing pipe dreams.  Has he traveled to Chicago, Atlanta and Detroit to entice some of their industries to come here? How about Dayton?

 

Have we thought that some of the issues are not Jackson's fault and more an issue at state level in regard to encouraging company's to move here.

 

And i'd like to ask, what are the "pipe dreams" he's chasing?

 

He doesn't have to travel to Chicago, ATL, etc to entice a businesses.

It is not a question of being quiet or loud. It is a question of understanding business and standing up to the entrenched power structure (unions, poverty pimps) to get some low wage jobs into this town and not being part of that power structure. Somehow Mike White saw beyond where and what he came from and what was necessary. In six years I see no evidence that Frank Jackson does.

 

How about the Rosetta deal?

It is not a question of being quiet or loud. It is a question of understanding business and standing up to the entrenched power structure (unions, poverty pimps) to get some low wage jobs into this town and not being part of that power structure. Somehow Mike White saw beyond where and what he came from and what was necessary. In six years I see no evidence that Frank Jackson does.

 

How about the Rosetta deal?

 

Stolen from the suburbs.  That does not help.  Any 22 year old minorities without high school diplomas working there? These people need jobs desperately. 

Now the GE/LED fiasco.  He just doesn't get it. 

It is not a question of being quiet or loud.  It is a question of understanding business and standing up to the entrenched power structure (unions, poverty pimps) to get some low wage jobs into this town and not being part of that power structure.  Somehow Mike White saw beyond where and what he came from and what was necessary.  In six years I  see no evidence that Frank Jackson does.

 

How about the Rosetta deal?

 

Stolen from the suburbs.  That does not help.  Any 22 year old minorities without high school diplomas working there? These people need jobs desperately. 

 

 

 

So we should do all we can to roll out the red carpet of freebies to big business that will "save us all?" How about investing in communities and giving more incentives and breaks for smaller independent enterprises (and I don't mean 500 employees constituting something "small!" as some may think compared to mega giants) which are the backbone of the economy...and collectively, will add the economic diversity that breeds economic stability...and will employ just as many people as one bigger giant. We build around and depend on one or a few in this economy, then we all fall down if they fall. I don't want to walk that road either, and that is the road some want to take...the "mega-corporate welfare" road.  That doesn't work either. How about establishing some balance.

^^I don't criticize him for that deal- he was working on bringing a company that wanted to build a manufacturing plant which would bring in 350 (including low-skill factory) jobs to the city.  I don't see too many manufacturing companies around who are willing to do the same, with GE included.  If GE were willing to employ Cleveland workers in a newly built plant located in the City of Cleveland which would make LED Cleveland lights, great.  I think that GE is a great contributor to the local economy- with Nela Park being a historic asset.  In my opinion, if GE were willing to do what this Chinese company were willing to do at Nela Park, if possible, that would be great too.  But we're asking "if" with GE, not "when". 

 

Has any other company come forward who is willing to build a plant in the City and employ 350 people?  If so, then it should be without question that the contract should be up for bid.  However, I don't think that's the case. 

 

My biggest concern is that GE will turn a cold shoulder to the regional economy in some fashion, affecting the Nela Park facility. 

^^I don't criticize him for that deal- he was working on bringing a company that wanted to build a manufacturing plant which would bring in 350 (including low-skill factory) jobs to the city.  I don't see too many manufacturing companies around who are willing to do the same, with GE included.  If GE were willing to employ Cleveland workers in a newly built plant located in the City of Cleveland which would make LED Cleveland lights, great.  I think that GE is a great contributor to the local economy- with Nela Park being a historic asset.  In my opinion, if GE were willing to do what this Chinese company were willing to do at Nela Park, if possible, that would be great too.  But we're asking "if" with GE, not "when". 

 

Has any other company come forward who is willing to build a plant in the City and employ 350 people?  If so, then it should be without question that the contract should be up for bid.  However, I don't think that's the case. 

 

My biggest concern is that GE will turn a cold shoulder to the regional economy in some fashion, affecting the Nela Park facility. 

 

Why do you think GE hasn't offered to do this? Maybe becuase it isn't economically realistic? Maybe because it is a scam? Wouldn't we be better off offering incentives to GE? Look at what Akron did with Goodyear, etc.  I didn't see Polinsek or whatever the mayor's name is trying to woo Pirelli!

While I don't have the same utter disdain for Mayor Jackson that some do, and I get that he's not one for grandstanding - when I hear that a substantial amount of my/taxpayer dollars are being plunked down in a UNBID contract for a company that hasn't exactly been vetted 110% - I believe Mayor Jackson has some "splaining" to do. It'd be one thing if the Chinese company was known globally for an impeccable reputation and ultra high quality product; but they aren't  - so yeah, "it is what it is" is NOT going to fly with this constituent and I imagine a lot more.

^^I don't criticize him for that deal- he was working on bringing a company that wanted to build a manufacturing plant which would bring in 350 (including low-skill factory) jobs to the city. I don't see too many manufacturing companies around who are willing to do the same, with GE included. If GE were willing to employ Cleveland workers in a newly built plant located in the City of Cleveland which would make LED Cleveland lights, great. I think that GE is a great contributor to the local economy- with Nela Park being a historic asset. In my opinion, if GE were willing to do what this Chinese company were willing to do at Nela Park, if possible, that would be great too. But we're asking "if" with GE, not "when".

 

Has any other company come forward who is willing to build a plant in the City and employ 350 people? If so, then it should be without question that the contract should be up for bid. However, I don't think that's the case.

 

My biggest concern is that GE will turn a cold shoulder to the regional economy in some fashion, affecting the Nela Park facility.

 

Why do you think GE hasn't offered to do this? Maybe becuase it isn't economically realistic? Maybe because it is a scam? Wouldn't we be better off offering incentives to GE? Look at what Akron did with Goodyear, etc. I didn't see Polinsek or whatever the mayor's name is trying to woo Perelli!

 

I will cross-post my reply from another thread...

 

I'm for it.  As I said in the Mayor Jackson thread... if there was another company willing to build a new plant in the City of Cleveland, employing up to 350 workers from the City of Cleveland, and making LED lights which will be used in the City of Cleveland, then the contract should have been put up to bid.  Since there was no other company willing to do so, WHY NOT create jobs in the City (some of which will be low-skill jobs which many claim the city needs more of)? 

 

My only fear from the deal is GE retaliating in some type of way, affecting the workers at Nela Park.  Nela Park is a GREAT, historic asset for the region.

 

Except there is one, out of Akron.  The story was in last Sundays PD. 

They claimed they would build a plant employing 400, make a better product and should have a chance at the incentives and build a plant here.  (maybe they will build one in China instead?) 

 

I stand corrected- Thank you.  This is what my opinion was based on- and since there is indeed another company who could have done the same while producing even more jobs, this definitely should have been put out to bid.  And because of this, I think this deal was structured strictly for political reasons, as the Mayor will be able to claim that he brought jobs from overseas to Cleveland instead of relying on a company that oursources jobs overseas.

 

tradition7- Thanks for the insight.  I agree 100% about GE's corporate presence in the region (in East Cleveland, no less).  Learning of what willyboy posted, I agree that GE should have been given the chance to show what it could do.  Who is to say that GE could not also employ locally for the building of the new LEDs to be used in Cleveland?  I guess we'll never know.

Blew up in his face.  No surprise here. 

Can't believe that there is no discussion of the Mayor's ongoing LED fiasco.  It seems that at least some city councilmen smell blood. 

Well we do have this thread...:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,23088.0.html

 

But no discussion since last week.

Can't believe that there is no discussion of the Mayor's ongoing LED fiasco.  It seems that at least some city councilmen smell blood. 

 

No only you're active imagination and your obvious bias toward the Mayor.

Can't believe that there is no discussion of the Mayor's ongoing LED fiasco. It seems that at least some city councilmen smell blood.

 

Is there something new to discuss?