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The columns along E. 9th are being covered but are far from the facade material.  There's so much to do once construction is about complete - with all the office moving, equipment, high tech, etc., etc.  Summer?  haha

Does glass count as façade material?  Because that's going up on the 9th street side today.  I don't think Summer is out of the question.

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I would think that the glass would count as "facade"??

 

Any pics??

Best I could do.

That definitely counts as façade!  From the small sample, I like the contrast in colors.

Best I could do.

 

 

Awesome, thanks sizzlinbeef!!!  Definitely looks good.  They're making good progress on this building.

Drove by yesterday late afternoon, there is some facade and glass, even glass on the ugly skywalk.

 

 

Wow! Great progress.  I have a question.  Will the skywalk only connect to the new Cuyahoga County Headquarters or connect to the old Ameritrust Tower?  It sure makes sense to have it connect for the hotel and residents.

^I am only guessing but I would think there will be some type of shared corridor between the county building and the tower. Especially with Heinens in the Rotunda. I am sure they would like to offer that option to some of their customers. Although it may get tricky with possible security checkpoints that you encounter in county buildings that have some public access.

I snapped some quick photos with my iPad so the quality's not what I prefer but they give a good idea of the facade. Ugh... on the colored panels, did they really have to go with the green that could best be described as "Lake Erie Murk Green"?  :roll: Not saying I'd want day-glo pink but jeez...

 

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Almost looks like those green panels are left over from the Virgil Brown building

 

Um, the County has a legacy of bad architecture to uphold people!!!!!

I am impressed with the cleaning of the tower!  I do wish The County Headquarters design could have been better.

Um, the County has a legacy of bad architecture to uphold people!!!!!

 

Ha!  Sadly, the renderings made it pretty clear this new building was going to be extremely meh at best, and a total dog at worst.  Still don't understand why this had to be. Hard to believe Geis couldn't have done something a little more interesting without blowing the budget.

This is one of Vocon's first dabbles into ground up design.  Not a very interesting first act.

I just saw the facade today. Damn, I thought I'd be the first to post the ugliness!

 

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Construction trucks full of building materials like this one were arriving frequently the old Ameritrust rotunda and tower, plus the neighboring 1010 Euclid conversion to apartments and the new county HQ building. Busy area.

 

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Workers working!

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Those pillars along the sidewalk are supposed to be covered with re-used black granite from the P&H facade. I remember they were removing large portions of it before demolition. The lower portion should look better when it's actually finished.

An ABJ article on the Heinen's grocery store gets more into the what makes an urban store succeed and speculates what other spinoff may result. Since it is more speculative and less project/construction oriented, I posted it here:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,28887.msg693223.html#msg693223

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

There's now two rows of facade on the side facing E 9th street. I drive past it every day. The entire second row went up in the past 24 hours. It was too cold to stand outside longer than I had to, to take a picture!

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Façade update:

 

^ Is there going to be more added to that facade? Because right now it is looking pretty ugly. Worse than the renderings IMO.

I agree. I did not get any green from the renderings, but those panels are most certainly not glass. It kinda looks 70s with the lines of dark green in there.

Yikes.  Bad early 90's look to it.

Wow.  That is really shaping up to be hideous.  Not only does it look like the worst examples of late 1960s/early 1970s architecture, it does nothing to complement or interact with the Breuer tower.  Thanks for another great building Cuyahoga County.  :shoot:

It varies with the lighting and angle.  From some perspectives and in certain lighting (clear, mid-day, blue sky), the silver metal panels look white like in the rendering, and the colored panels look more blue.  From the perspective shown above, yeah, put a paper bag over it.

Looks like the East Ohio Gas building separated at birth twin

Agreed, the green panels are ugly.

 

To the point about angle and lighting... the silver panels do look better from this angle.

 

 

if the building only looks okay if you look at it from a specific angle, at a specific time of day, It isn't a good design.

I might have pics of the interior in a week or so.

It reminds me of the East Ohio Gas Building … in a bad way. How disappointing.

I think it's significantly worse than the EOG building.  That shiny metal stuff is one of my least favorite facade materials. EOG at least has some modernist purity.

And just think what it's going to look like in 20 years. 

And just think what it's going to look like in 20 years. 

 

Puke green will surely make a miraculous comeback by then....

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Not the greatest; not the worst.  I'll just enjoy its function over its form.

Man this thread is brutal on this building... I don't think it is that bad.

Ill have to see it in person, but so far it does looks similar to the East Ohio Gas building (one of the ugliest buildings I have seen, and the worst in downtown IMO.)

I think putting a chandelier above it will solve the negativity.  :-P

Man this thread is brutal on this building... I don't think it is that bad.

 

Now that is one gorgeous pun, seeing as the building has such a high-profile Brutalist masterpiece sitting right next to it.

 

The criticism is well-deserved in my opinion. The county building is low budget, uninspiring and incredibly apologetic. This is cookie-cutter urbanism, a far cry from the WRL design seen floating around years ago. While I understand the budgetary concerns had to be addressed in order to save the Breuer tower logistically, I sincerely hope (but I'm not holding my breath) that this isn't a sign of things to come from Geis. This site should have been deemed too important for such banal vocon garbage. Oh well, it is what it is. *sigh*

It's a truly ugly building. I'd rather it be a totally plain international-style building like the Penton Media building. Oh well, at least it will add some life to that intersection.

It didnt look bad at night tonight, but then again, there werent any lights on it.

 

Also, is it possible there could be some sort of protective film on the glass for the construction period like on the Federal Building? I didnt really get a good look at it though...

Per Cleveland.com, the Geis bros just bought a small building (Howell Building) adjacent to the new County HQ.

 

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Looks like it has potential for some small-time retail once the other big tenants move in next door.

Per Cleveland.com, the Geis bros just bought a small building (Howell Building) adjacent to the new County HQ.

 

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Looks like it has potential for some small-time retail once the other big tenants move in next door.

 

Sorry PD, but I had them scooped months ago......

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,20128.msg683767.html#msg683767

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ Thanks for posting. I'm okay with the conservative facade. The important thing is the retail going into the ground floor, and how that will do absolute wonders to liven up E. 9th.

^ Retail??

Shoot, is retail no longer in the picture?  Maybe I'm mistaking the Geis plan with the K&D proposal.

Only retail is gonna be a snack/cafeteria bar similar to what's in the justice center or the basement of City Hall.

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