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the sign is so incongruous and not in a clever way. worse, it sure does look like your local action 9 tv station building type of signage and not a hotel.

 

The only wish I would have liked with "the 9" was if it was incorporated into the square cutout. 

 

no, no, no, but i like your creative thought here. the cutout is breuer's architectural draw, so i would never mess with that. its fine where it is, but it's just the italic font style is all wrong. maybe a 60s or 70s era font would be more appropriate? seems so obvious.

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While having been designed by Bruer this is the former Ameritrust Tower. Never has it ever been called the Bruer Tower except for here. The tower's official name is the Metropolitan, which itself is part of The 9 complex.

While having been designed by Bruer this is the former Ameritrust Tower. Never has it ever been called the Bruer Tower except for here. The tower's official name is the Metropolitan, which itself is part of The 9 complex.

 

The Metropolitan should be the name of everything for branding simplicity.

No - I believe only the hotel is to be called "The Metropolitan" - not the whole Breuer tower, which is to include the apartments.

 

The tower as well as hotel is called the Metropolitan... trust me. Although the name of the hotel is a bit longer than just Metropolitan.

The tower as well as hotel is called the Metropolitan... trust me. Although the name of the hotel is a bit longer than just Metropolitan.

 

See the confusion on what in the development is "named" what?  I believe in simplicity and one name for all.

The tower as well as hotel is called the Metropolitan... trust me. Although the name of the hotel is a bit longer than just Metropolitan.

 

See the confusion on what in the development is "named" what?  I believe in simplicity and one name for all.

 

I see what you're saying. The project will have 11 different venues within... All with their own distinct names. There will be the Adega Restaurant and Azure sun deck as well as Heinen's and more all under the umbrella of “The 9.” The Metropolitan is just one of those 11 venues.

The tower as well as hotel is called the Metropolitan... trust me. Although the name of the hotel is a bit longer than just Metropolitan.

 

See the confusion on what in the development is "named" what?  I believe in simplicity and one name for all.

 

I see what you're saying. The project will have 11 different venues within... All with their own distinct names. There will be the Adega Restaurant and Azure sun deck as well as Heinen's and more all under the umbrella of “The 9.” The Metropolitan is just one of those 11 venues.

 

I'm talking the hotel, apartments, not the restaurants.  Although it would be nice if they all had the "X venue, at the Metropolitan"

Yes, this is getting confusing.  I was looking up hotels in the same chain as our new one. The way I understand it they are in the Marriott's Autograph Collection, and this one is "The Metropolitan."  Some kept their old name, like "The Algonquin," in New York near Times Square. 

Architects and architecture aficionados, what is the significance of the cut out square in the top of the Beuer tower?

Yes, this is getting confusing.  I was looking up hotels in the same chain as our new one. The way I understand it they are in the Marriott's Autograph Collection, and this one is "The Metropolitan."  Some kept their old name, like "The Algonquin," in New York near Times Square. 

 

A hotel brand is not a reflection of the name.  For instance, Starwood has a brand called "the luxury collection" and each hotel is individually named.  Many hotels on S. Beach have their own name but are associated with a brand.  The Autograph  Collection is just a way for Marriott to categorize their properties.  It's their way to compete with the W & Le Meridien (Starwood), Andaz (Hyatt), Conrad (Hilton), Gansevort, Standard, Morgans, Thompson and Loews hotel brands.

The tower as well as hotel is called the Metropolitan... trust me.

 

Where are you getting this?  They have a website (http://the9cleveland.com/).  The hotel, residences, etc are all labeled as "at The 9":  "The Metropolitan at The 9", "Concierge Living at The 9".  Seems pretty clear to me.

Architects and architecture aficionados, what is the significance of the cut out square in the top of the Beuer tower?

 

It is called an Oculus. Or at least Breuer's take on one. Going back to the early centuries the Oculus was usually placed at the peak of a dome as a circular open air function. It allowed light and weather to enter the space.  In some examples it would be covered in glass. The top of the Att building in NY features a different example of an Oculus.

Also check out the Whitney Museum in NYC, another Breuer with a somewhat similar element.

Architects and architecture aficionados, what is the significance of the cut out square in the top of the Beuer tower?

 

It is called an Oculus. Or at least Breuer's take on one. Going back to the early centuries the Oculus was usually placed at the peak of a dome as a circular open air function. It allowed light and weather to enter the space.  In some examples it would be covered in glass. The top of the SONY building in NY features a different example of an Oculus.

The tower as well as hotel is called the Metropolitan... trust me.

 

Where are you getting this?  They have a website (http://the9cleveland.com/).  The hotel, residences, etc are all labeled as "at The 9":  "The Metropolitan at The 9", "Concierge Living at The 9".  Seems pretty clear to me.

 

The tower as a whole is called "The 9". The hotel is called the Metropolitan. That's why it's called, "The Metropolitan at The 9".

^Partially incorrect. The Tower, the Swetland building and the Rotunda together constitute “The 9”

^Partially incorrect. The Tower, the Swetland building and the Rotunda together constitute “The 9”

 

In fact, the Heinen's will extend into the Swetland's first floor.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I'm glad to see you guys calling it the Swetland Building and not the generic "1010 Euclid."

I'm glad to see you guys calling it the Swetland Building and not the generic "1010 Euclid."

 

Although 1010 Euclid helps ID the location.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

http://www.cleveland.com/cuyahoga-county/index.ssf/2014/07/new_cuyahoga_county_headquarters_now_open_ed_fitzgerald_says_it_symbolizes_departure_from_countys_co.html#incart_m-rpt-1

New Cuyahoga County headquarters now open; Ed FitzGerald says it symbolizes departure from county's corrupt past

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – Cuyahoga County's new headquarters is now open for business.

 

County officials on Tuesday afternoon held an opening ceremony for the eight-story, 220,000 square-foot building. It replaces the county's former headquarters, which was demolished earlier this year to make way for a planned convention center hotel.

We poked our noses inside the county offices but the security guards shooed us pretty quickly, saying that moving trucks and crews were coming and going and they said they wanted to keep the lobby/atrium (which is pretty small, BTW) and the sidewalks clear of people. So no pictures inside. But I shot a few outside (including the Daily Planet since we were discussing the AT&T building!).......

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Hadn't posted a pic of this project in a while so...

 

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The 9 sign in the foreground with the Cuyahoga County Administrative Headquarters (and partial Green roof) in the back ground.

Hadn't posted a pic of this project in a while so...

 

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The 9 sign in the foreground with the Cuyahoga County Administrative Headquarters (and partial Green roof) in the back ground.

 

Well, now there's a view you don't see every day! Now this the great insight I expect from UrbanOhio!

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

if they ef it up it can always be easily mocked as der nein. "hey, ya wanna hit that rooftop club tonight?" "nien mang, i heard that doorman was a prick."    :laugh:

Does anyone know if they plan to do anything to finish of the dome on the rotunda?  I love what they are doing with the whole complex, but that dome is bugging me with its finish.  It looks like old, peeling grey asphalt.

Hadn't posted a pic of this project in a while so...

 

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The 9 sign in the foreground with the Cuyahoga County Administrative Headquarters (and partial Green roof) in the back ground.

 

Well, now there's a view you don't see every day! Now this the great insight I expect from UrbanOhio!

 

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Interesting view, but my fear-of-heights queasiness goes off looking at this photo.

Sneak peek of the 9, cleveland's 'game-changing' downtown development

MONDAY, JULY 21, 2014

 

When it comes to The 9 in downtown Cleveland, there's no shortage of hyperboles. The $250-million project, which has transformed Marcel Breuer's long-neglected modernist tower into a 156-room high-end hotel and 194 luxury apartments, is being touted as a "game changer," the city's "first truly mixed-used building," a "best-in-class" property and the first-ever "truly luxury" residential building.

 

Of course, developers are known more for their sales pitches than their subtlety. So Fresh Water toured the ambitious project to get a sneak peek of the building, which is set to debut in September, to find out what all the hype is about.

 

READ MORE AT:

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/the9building072114.aspx

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

So the speakeasy in the vaults is going to be a private club, huh? 

 

That kinda stinks, but is also probably smart business, and makes me want to go even more!

So the speakeasy in the vaults is going to be a private club, huh? 

 

That kinda stinks, but is also probably smart business, and makes me want to go even more!

ML11[/member]

 

I was under the impression it was a private event space, that would have an occasional speakeasy. 

 

This will draw people, who will be disappointed it's a private event space and they will most likely end up at another venue within the development!

 

mjarboe[/member] reported that the "speakeasy" the Geis team would most likely try to open the space, for the speakeasy, from time to time.

Exciting to see some lights on in the tower. It's been dark for so long.

Nice photo!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

A couple of shots from last evening

The "SkySuites" run between $3700 and $6000/month. To have a fully loaded place, its seems so petty to charge people $90/month for TV and internet on top of this. Why not just include it? If they really want their $90, why not raise the prices? Just looks silly.

 

http://the9cleveland.com/SkySuites.html

Im not a huge fan of the look of the windows from the interior. Should provide a lot of natural light though which is nice. Also looks like they went with carpet which is different than most apartments downtown.

Im not a huge fan of the look of the windows from the interior. Should provide a lot of natural light though which is nice. Also looks like they went with carpet which is different than most apartments downtown.

 

DM4[/member]

I cannot tell from the picture, but that might be cork flooring.

I just could not live anywhere that had windows that didn't open.  Especially being that there are no balconies.  It would literally depress me in a beautiful day that I couldn't feel or smell the outdoor breeze.  In my opinion, it almost seems inhuman.  I love the project, but just isn't for me because of that.  I really think a rival developer could steal a lot of these high dollar tenants with a building that had balconies and functional windows.  I guess that comes with many modernist style office conversions to apartments.  Just an amenity you won't get. 

I just could not live anywhere that had windows that didn't open.  Especially being that there are no balconies.  It would literally depress me in a beautiful day that I couldn't feel or smell the outdoor breeze.  In my opinion, it almost seems inhuman.  I love the project, but just isn't for me because of that.  I really think a rival developer could steal a lot of these high dollar tenants with a building that had balconies and functional windows. 

 

Is there an apartment building in downtown Cleveland that offers individual outdoor space per unit, on the market right now?  Is there one in planned?

 

I hear what  you're saying and that could be true, but at this point, this development raised the bar.  Not everyone wants outdoor space especially living in a development that is encouraging you to engage with neighbors, hotel guest and daytime workers and evening entertainment patrons. 

Im not a huge fan of the look of the windows from the interior. Should provide a lot of natural light though which is nice. Also looks like they went with carpet which is different than most apartments downtown.

 

DM4[/member]

I cannot tell from the picture, but that might be cork flooring.

 

MyTwoSense[/member] you might be right

 

Edit: just found an article which confirms it is cork

Does the branding and site design/fonts bother anyone else??

Im not a huge fan of the look of the windows from the interior. Should provide a lot of natural light though which is nice. Also looks like they went with carpet which is different than most apartments downtown.

 

DM4[/member]

I cannot tell from the picture, but that might be cork flooring.

 

MyTwoSense[/member] you might be right

 

Edit: just found an article which confirms it is cork

 

DM4[/member]  My years of doing too many home renovation projects!  LOL

Does the branding and site design/fonts bother anyone else??

 

The audio/video on the home page is a bit much and makes it seem cheap IMO

 

http://the9cleveland.com/default.html

^I agree--its feels a bit cheesy/cheap, and very "LA" instead of, say NY, but overall its probably okay.

Does anyone know when the restaurants are scheduled to open?  I really want to go check out the rooftop bar!

I just could not live anywhere that had windows that didn't open.  Especially being that there are no balconies.  It would literally depress me in a beautiful day that I couldn't feel or smell the outdoor breeze.  In my opinion, it almost seems inhuman.  I love the project, but just isn't for me because of that.  I really think a rival developer could steal a lot of these high dollar tenants with a building that had balconies and functional windows. 

 

Is there an apartment building in downtown Cleveland that offers individual outdoor space per unit, on the market right now?  Is there one in planned?

 

I hear what  you're saying and that could be true, but at this point, this development raised the bar.  Not everyone wants outdoor space especially living in a development that is encouraging you to engage with neighbors, hotel guest and daytime workers and evening entertainment patrons.

 

The Avenue tower has individual balconies, as does the Pinnacle, although that one is condos isnt it?

I just could not live anywhere that had windows that didn't open.  Especially being that there are no balconies.  It would literally depress me in a beautiful day that I couldn't feel or smell the outdoor breeze.  In my opinion, it almost seems inhuman.  I love the project, but just isn't for me because of that.  I really think a rival developer could steal a lot of these high dollar tenants with a building that had balconies and functional windows. 

 

Is there an apartment building in downtown Cleveland that offers individual outdoor space per unit, on the market right now?  Is there one in planned?

 

I hear what  you're saying and that could be true, but at this point, this development raised the bar.  Not everyone wants outdoor space especially living in a development that is encouraging you to engage with neighbors, hotel guest and daytime workers and evening entertainment patrons.

 

The Avenue tower has individual balconies, as does the Pinnacle, although that one is condos isnt it?

 

Ahh.. PoshSteve[/member]  Thanks for that refresher, I totally forgot about the Avenue District main building.  I still don't see a renter chosing the Avenue district over the 9 because of all the amenities.  As I said when the AD open, along with 668, they raised the bar in contemporary/modern housing downtown.  These apartment development raises the bar twice.  The next units that go in will have to be just as good and have great service to compete.

Reserve square have balconies as well

Reserve square have balconies as well

  Since when?

You have to live on an end unit

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