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So I just walked by it - its presence on 9th street is incredible.  The party was in full swing.

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That new bar is going to be the new place to hang for the Cleveland sports stars

 

Lobby

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Corridors

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Kitchens

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Bedroom view

 

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Fireworks

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I'm another one who always thought highly of the Breuer Tower.  When I came here in 1973 it was definitely my favorite modern building downtown.  And I thought the Vasereley painting (silk print?) in the lobby was stunning.  Wonder who has it now....  I was thoroughly repulsed with the idea of the structure being demolished, was involved in the preservationist activities, and am now thrilled the whole complex is about the best I could ever expect it to be.

^Was the piece by Victor Vasarely? Oh man, I wish I could find an image of that.  That's exactly the type of high brow stuff I would have loved to have seen Geis base the styling on for this project.

I do think the 9 is the single biggest "game changer" project downtown in this recent spate of development.

 

Shoulda put condos on top of the new Hilton...that would have taken the game changing trophy.  But in absence of this, I agree with you.

The Schofield has a large presence from the street while the 9 doesn't seem that much taller. But from this view, the 9 is a great deal taller....

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Wow, some downtown love from the downtown haters at WTAM. Question: I thought the entire complex was $300+ million? This article says it was $170 million, or is that just for the tower?

 

Living the lush-life in downtown Cleveland

Posted Saturday, September 6th 2014 @ 5am

 

(Cleveland) - Today, Greater Clevelanders can tour "The 9", luxury living in the center of downtown at East 9th and Euclid. Doors open at 3pm, at what was the old Ameritrust Complex, the former home of Cleveland Trust bank.

 

The history building has been restored with modern apartments, offices, a hotel, plus dining and entertainment venues.

 

Read more: http://www.wtam.com/articles/wtam-local-news-122520/living-the-lushlife-in-downtown-cleveland-12738292#ixzz3CeGNS22n

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Amber Zent ‏@amberzent  5h

Obsessed with the rooftop at @The9CLE.

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^^The entire project is $170, KJP, not including the new county building.

^^Is that astroturf?

Wow.... a 'Godzilla' sighting in downtown Cleveland.

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Apparently the high roller hotel guests or residents get primo parking.  As the Nissan Skyline GT-R, Mercedes G box suv and further down, a Bentley indicate.

 

Apparently.  But it's also not unheard of for building owners to pay high end car dealers to park a couple cars out front to create a buzz and the look of exclusivity

^^The entire project is $170, KJP, not including the new county building.

 

Including the county building (plus the rehab of the former office tower, rotunda, Swetland and parking deck), it's $250 million.

http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2013/10/geis_brothers_plan_for_the_ame.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Metropolitan at the9 ‏@MetroAtThe9  6m

Spotted: @KeithHalfmann (Hotel Operations and Development at Geis Hospitality) taking care of business at our rooftop bar and sun lounge, Azure. #cle #allwaysiconic

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Did they coordinate their outfits?  It must be jeans and sport coat day.  For whatever reason, my wife won't let me rock that look.

By judging from the bottom of their shoes, this is still a fairly active construction site!

 

Also, the jeans with the sportcoat is not a summertime look in my opinion.  Hts121, your wife is right, don't rock it.  And the man on the left is wearing a jacket he poached from a suit (whom I thought was Drew Carey).  Possibly all three of them. 

You guys are looking at clothing and I'm looking at the height of the rooftop bar vis-a-vis the nearby buildings along East 12th! Urbanists.... pshaw!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Yeah, hts, its a bad look

Had dinner at Adega a few nights ago. A couple of night shots from the sun lounge. 

The dude on the right pulls it off. The other....not so much.

 

Those pictures look like something out of a movie.

 

Welcome aboard TDHorn!!

Did they coordinate their outfits?  It must be jeans and sport coat day.  For whatever reason, my wife won't let me rock that look.

 

I wasn't looking at their mall inspired "outfits", my thought, was I hope those guys aren't hanging out on the terrace scarring off "cute" people! 

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Was taking pictures around downtown and one of the construction managers in the Rotunda saw me and invited me inside to snap a few!

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For the floors that were open to the July tour, the drop-ceiling tiles had been removed  and it looks like they... along with the suspencion grid... are off in these pictures. The suspension grid was not off in July

 

I dont know if i'm right (because there were never lights going all night, like now) but the deletion of the drop-ceiling appears to be the reason for providing partial views of the Rotunda (murals and dome) -- at night -- for pedestrians on the sidewalk or even from your vehicle at a traffic light.

Looking in is now quite dramatic

 

i dont think this is my imagination.

I hope this is always the case and the drop ceiling is forever nixed.

The Rotunda is such an amazing structure -- definitely in my Top 10 of beautiful Cleveland interior spaces; and maybe in my Top 5... It's hard to conceptualize, though, folks tramping through there across those lovely buff marble floors seeking the frozen foods section... Oh well, I'm thrilled to see this magnificent space back in play after so many years of derelict decay while also having a brand new, much needed, ped-oriented supermarket to boot ... a win-win, definitely.

I don't know, I actually think a grocery store is an outstanding use of the Rotunda. It'll be nicely done so visually it won't look bad within that space and think about how many people will now be able to use and visit and activate this space. I think it's a really pedestrian way of bringing new life to a gorgeous historic building.

^Don't get me wrong, I'm not objecting to it...I just find it rather amusing, that's all... I love Heinens btw... a great high quality/high class operation... if any supermarket is to operate in the CT Rotunda, I'd prefer it to be Heinens.

The Rotunda is such an amazing structure -- definitely in my Top 10 of beautiful Cleveland interior spaces; and maybe in my Top 5... It's hard to conceptualize, though, folks tramping through there across those lovely buff marble floors seeking the frozen foods section... Oh well, I'm thrilled to see this magnificent space back in play after so many years of derelict decay while also having a brand new, much needed, ped-oriented supermarket to boot ... a win-win, definitely.

 

Actually, can you imagine people trampling across those lovely buff marble floors seeking the next teller line?  Almost seems like a modern day equivalent, right? 

^well, not exactly...

Anyone know what these little box parcels are within the overall parcel of The 9? When I click on them I get: "Data Not Available For Parcel 101-36-065"

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ Weird, maybe they're working to condoize certain units?

The county GIS system shows several of these ppn's under the category "Point Parcels (Condos) (1mi.)" category.  It lists a square footage, but nothing else.

Wasn't one of the early problems with the county trying to take over the site dealing with the ridiculous web of fractional parcel owners? My guess would be that they're leftover from that.

When is the rotunda scheduled to get power-washed. I realize that it has been washed in some areas, but in general it looks like it needs a good washing.

I'm thrilled about the Heinen's and how the whole complex is turning out.  However, it's difficult to get out of my mind the concept of one's doing their major supermarket shopping there - like for the week - and then having to carry the packages or take the cart far away.  I know many cities have and have had downtown supermarkets, without nearby parking lots, but it's hard to imagine people buying a lot.  Wonder if they'll deliver, like in the olden days.  Perhaps at a relatively high cost?

 

I'm thrilled about the Heinen's and how the whole complex is turning out.  However, it's difficult to get out of my mind the concept of one's doing their major supermarket shopping there - like for the week - and then having to carry the packages or take the cart far away.  I know many cities have and have had downtown supermarkets, without nearby parking lots, but it's hard to imagine people buying a lot.  Wonder if they'll deliver, like in the olden days.  Perhaps at a relatively high cost?

 

 

When I've been without a car, I shop for groceries every 2-3 days. Plus Heinen's will have a lot of prepared foods, so I think you'll see people stopping in there for lunch or for dinner on their way home from work. If you've been in Constantino's at lunch hour, you'll see what I mean. Plus they do wine tastings from NE Ohio wineries, cooking tips from guest chefts, etc.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

As a downtown resident I do not buy groceries for the week but what I need for that day or two. And as KJP pointed out, the main draw will be the hotbar, when I am not in the mood for a sit down dinner.

City dwellers often make much smaller trips, more often.  It's not difficult to walk a few blocks with 2 bags every couple days.

I live in OTR in Cincy and grocery shop for various amounts of items several times a week. That's how it works in this type of environment. You go when you run out of little things and you go often. It's quick though which is why it's not an issue. A five minute run to Kroger for me to pick up bread and cheese like I'll be doing tonight after work isn't an issue and makes it so I never have to carry a bunch of stuff at once.

^just like Europe.

My wife & I have lived car-free downtown for 8 months now (although the addition of a little one in Feb might change that). I work in Ohio City, and 3-4 times a week I'm picking up something from Dave's or the West Side Market. Although carrying groceries daily on the train hasn't been bad, I CANNOT wait until the day I just have to walk to E 9th instead.

 

Very few downtown residents that I've met are car-free like us, but everyone seems to be very excited about it. As of right now, no matter where they park, they have to carry groceries some length. While E 9th might be a little farther than the parking garage, I bet a large majority will just go Heinen's.

 

For us, we are counting down the days until it opens!!

^ Having lived car-free in both in Shaker Square and Asiatown, I'd echo this. I think the vast majority of people who live within a few blocks of any of the urban Dave's markets find it more convenient to walk to and from a grocery store ... Regardless of whether they have a car or not. At that range, driving starts to be more of a hassle than a help. Dave's in Ohio City, Shaker Square and North Collinwood all seem to have quite a bit of shoppers on foot. I think that driving burden is probably even higher downtown. Everyone I've talked to who live downtown (and quite a few who work there) seem to be SALIVATING over Heinen's opening.

There are also rolling food carts that many in urban areas use when they have bigger purchases.

^ yup -- you can't live without a 'granny cart' in ny. thats what they are called. they are indispensable. the good news is you don't need to use them as often as you might think, but when you do, you do.

As someone who lives car-free in University Circle, I go grocery shopping around 2-3 times a week. I pick up a few things at various places. It's not really a chore, and rather enjoyable interacting with the neighbors.

 

The suburban method of hauling the car out and cramming it full actually makes less sense to me.

A buddy of mine works at the Marc's in Kamms Corners. In spite of the nabe's suburban nature, he says the store gets a lot of walk-up customers from the surrounding homes, and as such the granny carts they sell are a popular item.

 

This Heinen's may want to consider selling carts of their own.

My wife & I have lived car-free downtown for 8 months now (although the addition of a little one in Feb might change that). I work in Ohio City, and 3-4 times a week I'm picking up something from Dave's or the West Side Market. Although carrying groceries daily on the train hasn't been bad, I CANNOT wait until the day I just have to walk to E 9th instead.

 

Very few downtown residents that I've met are car-free like us, but everyone seems to be very excited about it. As of right now, no matter where they park, they have to carry groceries some length. While E 9th might be a little farther than the parking garage, I bet a large majority will just go Heinen's.

 

For us, we are counting down the days until it opens!!

Cleveland was once like this.

 

I often pick up something on the way home as I don't like freezing things or canned goods.  So on the way home I'll pick up a meat for that day and maybe the next.

 

Yes a granny cart is need.  I walk around the square or through Harlem with mine. It doesn't seem out of place as everyone has a model.

 

However, when in LA and I walk to the grocery store or Westwood, people look at my like im crazy because I'm a) walking and b) using my cart.

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