I mentioned this in another thread, but it makes sense here, too.  Piccadilly Artisan Yogurt is considering a downtown location and they mention Heinen's in this article: http://www.cleveland.com/dining/index.ssf/2013/09/ohio_city_nabs_piccadilly_arti.html

 

"We're also looking at what Heinen’s has planned for its Cleveland store. We’re looking at downtown. We’ve had two developers approach us to go downtown, and we’re really contemplating and want to go downtown."

 

Just shows the power of the Heinen's move to lure other businesses downtown.

The windows will look different when there's finally lights on inside!

 

 

Will the windows in the building need to be replaced??  I'm not sure how exactly long it's be sitting empty, but I was thinking that without any type of maintenance for a period of years they might have some leak issues??

 

If they were replaced then that might also give the building a slightly different look.

 

Just shows the power of the Heinen's move to lure other businesses downtown.

 

Heinens has everyone I work with very excited. I cannot remember the last downtown project that sparked as much interest amongst the norms.

 

I mentioned this in another thread, but it makes sense here, too.  Piccadilly Artisan Yogurt is considering a downtown location and they mention Heinen's in this article: http://www.cleveland.com/dining/index.ssf/2013/09/ohio_city_nabs_piccadilly_arti.html

 

"We're also looking at what Heinen’s has planned for its Cleveland store. We’re looking at downtown. We’ve had two developers approach us to go downtown, and we’re really contemplating and want to go downtown."

 

Just shows the power of the Heinen's move to lure other businesses downtown.

 

I completely agree with you...residential projects on the fence will be getting a much needed shove of encouragement, complimenting retail with be attracted to this anchor, and those "norms" will take a second look at downtown living even furthering the demand. -- especially in the Breuer tower itself.  Overall, Heinen's brand name with elevate the feel of the surrounding blocks and downtown....all a win, win, win with postive vibes. 

Will the windows in the building need to be replaced??  I'm not sure how exactly long it's be sitting empty, but I was thinking that without any type of maintenance for a period of years they might have some leak issues??

 

 

The building has been vacant since the mid-90s. But Jacobs Group maintained the building and provided a security guard until the county bought it in 2005. The county has done a decent job of maintaining it since then, including heating it in winter times and making repairs as needed.

Cleaning is now visible from the west, looking east at the building.  The upper most four floors are being cleaned.  I'll have to agree that the cleaning is making a difference in the appearance of the building. 

County headquarters building progress. I'm surprised the eastern half of the building was completely filled in with dirt. Originally the entire space was excavated. Not sure why you wouldn't want the basement spanning the entire building. Basements are always useful for additional parking, storage, whatever.

There may be service lines under that dirt which would have made a basement pretty much useless.  Just a guess....

Absolutely nothing wrong with clean gray walls and brown windows.  That's what Breuer wanted, apparently, and that's fine; who needs two shades of dirty gray?  They've said all along the rotunda space has been well maintained so maybe it won't be such a long wait for the market.  This is the sort of thing that is seen in other cities and it's quite exciting.  Reminds me of sort of an elegant "food emporium," such as might exist in a London or Paris.  Many American cities used to have downtown supermarkets - often affiliated with department stores -  I miss it, and some cities still have this, besides major markets downtown. 

 

Btw, the PD article should have mentioned the supermarket in Reserve Square; seems like the reporter wasn't even aware of it.  It's not large but has quite a few types of items.  I wonder how "high end" the Heinens will be - anything like Constantino's?  Yes, something like a high-tech Apple would be exciting, too, and draw lots of people and have much appeal to downtown residents and workers but the supermarket is fine, too.  There's plenty of vacant space elsewhere downtown for the high-tech type business.

Yes, many who protested the possible demolition of the Breuer tower hinted of corruption and they sure were spot in!

 

to people who actually know a little bit about this: is there any correlation between grocery stores and other retail?  could a grocery store like heinens actually serve as an anchor to some sort of retail district along euclid and huron? 

I found this nice little photo essay yesterday on construction.

 

Cuyahoga County Administration Building

Posted on September 20, 2013 by lrpacini

 

Progress on the new Cuyahoga County Administration Building is evident as iron is coming up out of the ground. The site is located at the former site of AmeriTrust’s P&H Building, south of the historic Cleveland Trust Rotunda and the former 29-story AmeriTrust Office Tower, at the intersection of Prospect/Huron and East 9th Street. The once housed the massive data-processing center and Bond and Stock Administration for the bank’s Corporate Trust Division. The 8-story

 

 

http://www.artographyonline.com/blog/2013/09/20/cuyahoga-county-administration-building/

to people who actually know a little bit about this: is there any correlation between grocery stores and other retail?  could a grocery store like heinens actually serve as an anchor to some sort of retail district along euclid and huron? 

 

I only know this from interviewing developers and retailers. So I'm just a sounding board here. The provision of the grocery store by itself probably will not mean more retail. But it will draw more population to live downtown. And THAT will draw more retailers.

 

I just used this analogy in the downtown residential discussion:  This is like watching a skyscraper go up. But the vertical beams are the residential population and the horizontal beams are the services/amenities. Each new level of vertical beams justifies adding the horizontal beams.

Btw, the PD article should have mentioned the supermarket in Reserve Square; seems like the reporter wasn't even aware of it.  It's not large but has quite a few types of items. 

 

Hi lafont -

 

I wrote the story about Heinen's that ran in the PD. I'm aware of the store at Reserve Square, but it's not considered to be a supermarket -- or, really, even a grocery store. My reference to "convenience stores" in the article was meant to be a catch-all for that and some other downtown spots where you can buy food and beverages.

 

I wrote a story in 2010 about the grocery store at Reserve Square closing and being replaced with a convenience store. You can find it here: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/03/grocery_store_at_downtown_clevelands_reserve_square_apartments_is_closing.html When that store was larger and sold a wider range of groceries, it wasn't operated by a professional grocer or affiliated with a well-known brand.

 

Hopefully that helps explain my thought process!

 

Michelle

Thanks for responding and I'm glad you contribute to this forum.  I just happen to consider it more like a supermarket than a convenience store. No, it's not a chain (actually, many convenience stores are chains), but it has far, far more departments and is far larger than any of what I consider convenience stores in Greater Cleveland (mainly beverages, snacks, limited canned goods, breads, limited meats, Lottery).

I was going through old photos when I saw these of the Rotunda from about five years ago. This is going to be the most amazing grocery store in the Midwest, possibly the nation.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was going through old photos when I saw these of the Rotunda from about five years ago. This is going to be the most amazing grocery store in the Midwest, possibly the nation.....

 

:-)

^ Totally agree!  This may become a tourist attraction as well.  I wonder what becomes of the beautiful vaults in the basement?

 

 

Are offices still planned for the third floor?

^ Totally agree!  This may become a tourist attraction as well.  I wonder what becomes of the beautiful vaults in the basement?

 

 

Are offices still planned for the third floor?

 

It would make a helluva walk-in fridge!

^ Totally agree!  This may become a tourist attraction as well.  I wonder what becomes of the beautiful vaults in the basement?

 

Wine cellar?

^This!!!!! Although I won't be here to enjoy it :(

Walgreens in Chicago uses their Bank Vault for vitamins :) http://news.walgreens.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=5679

^This!!!!! Although I won't be here to enjoy it :(

 

That came across as cryptic. Or are you out of town?

^This!!!!! Although I won't be here to enjoy it :(

 

That came across as cryptic. Or are you out of town?

I'm moving in November, but I will be admiring from afar and back a few times a year for my culture/restaurant/city fix.

Would have been a great Superhero Museum, The Justice League

 

^ Totally agree!  This may become a tourist attraction as well.  I wonder what becomes of the beautiful vaults in the basement?

 

Wine cellar?

 

I've seen the plans and it is actually going to be a walk-in beer cooler

 

 

JK!  :drunk:

I'm surprised this project isn't listed on Geis' website as a current project.

I'm surprised this project isn't listed on Geis' website as a current project.

 

Do you mean "Featured Projects"? That's only completed work.

A link to it is on the front page: http://www.geis.us/County.php

This suggests a change to either either/both East 9th and/or Euclid (curb alignment, sidewalks etc).....

 

Downtown/Flats Design Review District

Agenda

October 3rd, 2013 9:30am

City Hall, Room 514, 601 Lakeside Avenue

1. DF2013-045: The M Public Right-of-Way Changes

Project Address: 2017 East 9th Street

Project Representative: Jen Dotson, Geis Construction

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2013/10032013/100313%20DRAC%20agenda.pdf

My assumption is that they are seeking a valet area, or on-street parking.  Most likely the latter given the nature of the development. 

I randomly looked up tonight... Red lighting!

Er, there, these didn't actually get through from my phone. But they appear to be adding some kind of strip of red light between the windows and the corner of the building. Or, something like that.

Great to see all of the activity.

My assumption is that they are seeking a valet area, or on-street parking.  Most likely the latter given the nature of the development. 

 

It is a drop-off area for the hotel. Just like the Renaissance drop off area on Superior.

But they appear to be adding some kind of strip of red light between the windows and the corner of the building.

 

Good to hear.  It's been said before, but many of the buildings downtown could be lit up in a better manner.  Sometimes when I'm watching the local news before sunrise, they'll show a shot of the sky line and it just looks...  not great.  I love what Rock did with lighting the Higbee building.

 

Do any renderings show this red light around the Breuer tower?

I'd be willing to bet the strip is a sample of something else to come. Not a new building lighting scheme. Just a hunch. ;)

^Do give more hints as to what you mean/know? My mind is getting all creative in what could be done with this and am curious what others think.

I wonder if it's a test for some of the planned signage up top.

I thought I remembered seeing a rendering with a red M up on the top of the building, same as the M in "The M on 9th" construction fence sign.  I cant seem to find that image now though.

 

It will be interesting to see what it ends up being though.  Not only an occupied building with interior lights, but also lit up on the outside with some sort of signage (hopefully)?!?!?

It will be interesting to see what it ends up being though.  Not only an occupied building with interior lights, but also lit up on the outside with some sort of signage (hopefully)?!?!?

 

This is going to be quite the transformation. The former drabness of that eyesore block will still be fresh in everyone's mind.

 

I wonder if it's a test for some of the planned signage up top.

 

This.

Wouldn't surprise me if they did something ludicrous like this:

Breaking news—I have it from an absolutely reliable source that an announcement will be made tomorrow morning that the hotel at the Ameritrust will be a Marriott. But I'm not sure if they meant the Marriott brand or another one (like JW Marriott ... but I'd doubt that).

Breaking newsI have it from an absolutely reliable source that an announcement will be made tomorrow morning that the hotel at the Ameritrust will be a Marriott. But I'm not sure if they meant the Marriott brand or another one (like JW Marriott ... but I'd doubt that).

 

Cool. I would think something like an AC Hotels which is Marriott's new boutique brand. There's a 140-room AC Hotel going in Cincinnati along the streetcar route. If I remember right, the hotel portion of the Breuer is in the neighbor of 140 rooms, right?

Maybe ...  :wink:

 

 

Well, Here's the list of Marriott brands:

http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi

 

This logo would certainly support the idea of  "The M on 9th"  I'm surprised at myself for not thinking of it sooner.

Well, I think we know what "The M" means now!

Man that corner is going to be crazy in a couple of years. 3 hotels almost 500 rooms, 300+ apartments, Heinens, the County building, new restaurants, other retail. Hope it all works out w/o anymore delays.

Man that corner is going to be crazy in a couple of years. 3 hotels almost 500 rooms, 300+ apartments, Heinens, the County building, new restaurants, other retail. Hope it all works out w/o anymore delays.

 

And my office is right here in the middle of it! Good think we just renewed our lease at the old rate.

 

Well, Here's the list of Marriott brands:

http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi

 

This logo would certainly support the idea of  "The M on 9th"  I'm surprised at myself for not thinking of it sooner.

 

A while back before the great crash someone posted a rendering if the Heinen's logo on the parking garage. That turned out to be true. Also, I came across some renderings if the hotel portion of this before Geis locked their site. If I recall correctly, Marcus Hotel Group had their logo on the hotel, which was called "the Metropolitan" therefore the M.

Yes, it'll be a Marriott. I heard a few weeks back--but i can't remember the type of marriott. Maybe Edition. it was something that i had never heard of before.