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I predict the Morgan Quinto Most Dangerous Cities 2008 will be in order:

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1 St. Louis

2 Flint

3 Oakland

4 Memphis

5 Detroit

6 Orlando

7 Baltimore

8 Stockton

9 Philadelphia

10 Cleveland

11 Birmingham

12 Rockford

13 Nashville

14 Atlanta

15 Kansas City

16 St. Petersburg

17 Buffalo

18 Washington

19 Miami

20 Tulsa

21 Minneapolis

22 Cincinnati

23 Springfield

24 Little Rock

25 Milwaukee

26 Hartford

27 Indianapolis

28 Bridgeport

29 Pompano Beach

30 Baton Rouge

31 Toledo

32 Tallahassee

33 Lafayette

34 Rochester

35 Houston

36 Boston

37 Chattanooga

38 Dayton

39 Pittsburgh

40 Knoxville

41 Richmond

42 Lowell4

43 San Bernardino

44 Lansing

45 Grand Rapids

46 New Orleans

47 Tacoma

48 Miami Gardens4

49 Paterson

50 Sacramento

51 Jacksonville

52 Syracuse

53 Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department

54 Oklahoma City

55 Worcester

56 West Palm Beach

57 Lubbock

58 Vallejo

59 Shreveport

60 Newark

61 Jackson

62 Fayetteville

63 Anchorage

64 Clearwater

65 Jersey City

66 Charlotte-Mecklenburg

67 Beaumont

68 Gainesville

69 Winston-Salem

70 Akron

71 Elizabeth

72 Dallas

73 Albuquerque

74 Fort Lauderdale

75 Tampa

76 Inglewood

77 Antioch

78 Greensboro

79 Columbia

80 Wichita

81 San Francisco

82 Waco

83 Norfolk

84 Durham

85 Lancaster

86 Tucson3

87 St. Paul

88 Richmond

89 South Bend

90 Salt Lake City

91 Amarillo

92 Clarksville

93 Corpus Christi

94 Columbus

95 Wilmington

96 Killeen

97 Pomona

98 Allentown

99 Independence

100 Salinas

101 San Antonio

102 Charleston

103 North Las Vegas

104 Huntsville

105 Portsmouth

106 High Point

107 Reno

108 Modesto

109 Newport News

110 Los Angeles

111 Springfield

112 Columbus

113 Louisville Metro

114 Providence

115 Des Moines

116 Long Beach

117 Spokane

118 Phoenix

119 Fort Worth

120 El Monte

121 Berkeley

122 Riverside

123 Bakersfield

124 Lexington

125 Murfreesboro

126 Portland

127 Erie

128 Hayward

129 Laredo

130 Palmdale

131 Savannah-Chatham Metropolitan

132 Omaha

133 Arlington

134 Victorville

135 Fresno

136 New York

137 Raleigh

138 Seattle

139 Hollywood

140 Denver

141 Abilene

142 Visalia

143 Moreno Valley

144 Hialeah

145 Wichita Falls

146 Palm Bay

147 Colorado Springs

148 Austin

149 Fairfield

150 Glendale

151 Lakewood

152 Aurora

153 Ontario

154 Lincoln

155 Santa Ana

156 Norwalk

157 Mesa

158 Green Bay

159 Topeka

160 Warren5

161 Gresham

162 Miramar

163 Tempe

164 Santa Rosa

165 Mobile2

166 West Valley

167 Oceanside

168 San Diego

169 Manchester4

170 Elk Grove

171 Athens-Clarke County

172 El Paso

173 Fontana

174 Yonkers

175 Chesapeake

176 Pasadena

177 Oxnard

178 Montgomery

179 Pasadena

180 Downey

181 Escondido

182 Cambridge

183 Fort Collins

184 Midland

185 Evansville

186 Anaheim

187 Columbia

188 San Jose

189 Madison

190 Ventura

191 West Covina

192 Chula Vista

193 Salem

194 Mesquite

195 Vancouver

196 Garden Grove

197 Irving

198 Brownsville

199 Waterbury

200 Cedar Rapids

201 Garland

202 Concord

203 Sioux Falls

204 Grand Prairie

205 Eugene

206 Stamford

207 Fort Wayne

208 Hampton

209 Thornton

210 Costa Mesa

211 Chandler

212 Fullerton

213 Denton

214 Roseville

215 Fremont

216 McAllen

217 Honolulu

218 Daly City

219 Pembroke Pines

220 Boise

221 Richardson

222 Westminster

223 Billings4

224 Ann Arbor

225 Coral Springs

226 Santa Clarita

227 Port St. Lucie

228 Virginia Beach

229 Carrollton

230 Lewisville

231 Alexandria

232 Burbank

233 Plano

234 Rancho Cucamonga

235 Cape Coral

236 Torrance

237 McKinney

238 Santa Clara

239 Peoria

240 Henderson

241 West Jordan

242 Arvada

243 Huntington Beach

244 Corona

245 Sterling Heights

246 Glendale

247 Overland Park

248 Scottsdale

249 Orange

250 Norman

251 Provo

252 Simi Valley

253 Sunnyvale

254 Bellevue

255 Amherst Town

256 Round Rock

257 Thousand Oaks

258 Surprise

259 Gilbert

260 Cary

261 Murrieta

262 Irvine

 

Interestingly Chicago isn't included because the way they report forceable rape doesn't comply with the uniform crime reporting.  I think they would be around 25th if they were reported.

First of all, how in the hell are you computing this?  Secondly, how is Chicago's reporting of rape different than the rest of the country?

First of all, how in the hell are you computing this? Secondly, how is Chicago's reporting of rape different than the rest of the country?

 

I am computing it the way I beleive Morgan Quinto does Population/Crimes.  I have no idea about chicago.  It is actually the whole state of Illinois.

Are you saying that you looked up the crime stats and populations of every city in America and made this list?

 

And you mentioned that Chicago rape reporting "doesn't comply with the uniform crime reporting".  I'm asking what the difference between "uniform crime reporting" is and "Chicago reporting."  I assumed you would know...

238 Santa Clara

 

One thing about living in Santa Clara I never could stomach... all the damn vampires

Why would you want to predict 250 cities in a particular order?  If I was a betting man, I'd say your prediction is off by one or two cities.........

thomasbw, how do you know this?! This has to be off ... are you crazy.

Who is Morgan Quinto and why should the rest of us care what he or she thinks the most dangerous cities are?

Who is Morgan Quinto and why should the rest of us care what he or she thinks the most dangerous cities are?

 

Morgan Quinto puts out this list every year of the "most dangerous cities." The list is widely critized

 

From  the wikipedia page:

 

The FBI recommends against use of its crime statistics for the direct comparison of cities as Morgan Quitno does in its "Most Dangerous Cities" rankings. This is due to the many factors that influence crime in a particular study area such as population density and the degree of urbanization, modes of transportation of highway system, economic conditions, and citizens' attitudes toward crime. [1]

 

In October 2007 The American Society of Criminology, The U.S. Conference of Mayors, and The Federal Bureau of Investigation requested that the publisher reconsider the promotion of the book — specifically, "their inaccurate and inflammatory press release labeling cities as 'safest' and 'most dangerous'" — because the rankings are "baseless and damaging." In November 2007 the executive board of the American Society of Criminology (ASC) approved a resolution opposing the development of city crime rankings from FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCRs). The resolution states the rankings "These rankings represent an irresponsible misuse of the data and do groundless harm to many communities" and "work against a key goal of our society, which is a better understanding of crime-related issues by both scientists and the public."[2]

 

The U.S. Conference of Mayors has criticized the "Most Dangerous Cities" list, saying the annual city-by-city crime rankings are "distorted and damaging to cities' reputations." [3] [4]

 

Cities of Illinois are not included in this ranking due to a disparity in reporting rape cases between Illinois State police data and FBI data. Other cities may not be included due to lack of some data.

 

Morgan Quitno's "Most Dangerous Cities" ranking has been criticized as a statistical half-truth, since it does not adjust rankings of cities with wide area city limits (Houston, Jacksonville) compared to cities with inner core limits (St. Louis, Atlanta). Houston's city crime statistics, for instance, are diluted by lower crime in affluent areas within its broad city limits, whereas almost all the low crime affluent areas of St. Louis are outside its city limits, which constitute only 12.5% of its metro area. St. Louis would fall far down the dangerous cities list just by annexing adjacent suburbs in this methodology, with no actual change in personal safety. Metro area rankings include all suburbs for all MSAs and therefore have some validity.[citation needed]

So i was just seeing how easy it was to come up with the same list.  Turns out they actually don't just divide population by crime (although it is pretty close they divide population by an average of crime over the past few years) and they count all cities over 75k not 100k. 

No f-ing way that Sunnydale comes in at #253! Switch them with Overland Park at #247 and I'll start taking you seriously.  ;)

I haven't even heard of half of these cities

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No f-ing way that Sunnydale comes in at #253! Switch them with Overland Park at #247 and I'll start taking you seriously.   ;)

 

have things really quieted down there that much since buffy ran all the vampires out?

 

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Predicted number on the left, actual ranking on the right

 

1  St. Louis [2]

2  Flint [5]

3  Oakland [3]

4  Memphis [10]

5  Detroit [4]

6  Orlando [17]

7  Baltimore [13]

8  Stockton [36]

9  Philadelphia [21]

10  Cleveland [9]

11  Birmingham [7]

12  Rockford [31]

13  Nashville [56]

14  Atlanta [18]

15  Kansas City [15]

16  St. Petersburg [49]

17  Buffalo [27]

18  Washington [16]

19  Miami [45]

20  Tulsa [39]

21  Minneapolis [30]

22  Cincinnati [19]

23  Springfield [51]

24  Little Rock [23]

25  Milwaukee [40]

238 Santa Clara

 

One thing about living in Santa Clara I never could stomach... all the damn vampires

 

I forgot I had dropped this one in.  Nobody?  Really?  Where are all the 80's children on this board?

Hts, don't forget about all the zombies in Fiddler's Green.... I mean Pittsburgh. :)

238 Santa Clara

 

One thing about living in Santa Clara I never could stomach... all the damn vampires

 

I forgot I had dropped this one in. Nobody? Really? Where are all the 80's children on this board?

 

I enjoyed the reference. I figured it was obvious enough that everyone got it. Of course, I recently had a real reality check when I made a reference to Wall Street and my 26 yo assistant said, 'what is that?'.

 

 

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