Ugh.... why is this even allowed....

 

Worthington freaked out when they were getting the discreet metal ones on or adjacent to light posts.... elsewhere communities are getting Shafted with crappy aesthetic and even worse intrusion of pedestrian ROW.  Especially given the northern sidewalk it half electic poles.... Even the ones on the Scioto mile drive me nuts bexuase they have a post and a separate meter base... mind boggling. 

Edited October 24, 20204 yr by DTCL11

^If there’s less than 3’ clear between the pole and wall it’s not ADA compliant. Some of these poles are in peoples front yards (East between Blake and Wilcox). I don’t understand why they don’t locate them in the alley. 
 

The telecoms successfully lobbied the Ohio legislature to install these anywhere they please in the right-of-way without any public input at all. The only thing they are required to do is apply for a permit from municipalities for technical review, not location. The maximum permits they can apply for in one submittal is 30. 
 

These are eyesores. My understanding is that all three telecoms are installing these so we’ll end up with a lot of new poles. There are two right next to each other on Indianola at Maynard. 

Wilcox and High (Mon. 11-9-20)

 

 

 

^That's a nice project. It included the renovation of the row house just east of High on Tompkins. I would love to see similar infill on the O'Reilly auto parts site, the Goodwill parking lot, the strip mall at Blake and eventually the two gas station sites and Taco Bell. 

56 minutes ago, Pablo said:

^That's a nice project. It included the renovation of the row house just east of High on Tompkins. I would love to see similar infill on the O'Reilly auto parts site, the Goodwill parking lot, the strip mall at Blake and eventually the two gas station sites and Taco Bell. 

Yeah that entire area needs some work. Hopefully this helps! 

These kind of developments sprinkled all throughout N. High from Old North to Worthington would add so much to the environment and streetscape without being overbearing and setting off the rabid Clintonvillians. Hope it continues. 

2 hours ago, Pablo said:

^That's a nice project. It included the renovation of the row house just east of High on Tompkins. I would love to see similar infill on the O'Reilly auto parts site, the Goodwill parking lot, the strip mall at Blake and eventually the two gas station sites and Taco Bell. 

patrick js lot as well!

Schooley Caldwell has been posting a few updates of the North High School building renovations. It looks amazing and figured I would share them. 

Looks nice on the inside. Too bad there wasn't protection provided for the mature maple trees along Arcadia. The contractor ran roughshod over the site killing the trees. I drive by the site every day and watched it happen. 

Edited December 15, 20204 yr by Pablo

56 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Looks nice on the inside. Too bad there wasn't protection provided for the mature maple trees along Arcadia. The contractor ran roughshod over the site killing the trees. I drive by the site every day and watched it happen. 

Yeah I was really sad when I saw them tearing them out. Would have made it look even better. 

Plans moving forward for a live entertainment venue at the site of the old "church."

 

The owners of Evolved bought the building awhile back and tore down the original theater.

 

Also noticed that they bought the corner lot last year and changed the property to be part of the LLC. My assumption is it will remain parking. The site is an old service station and would require environmental mitigation. 

 

This will add to the already hefty number of live music venues across Old North. I've often believed that is a strong part of Old North's identity and should be built upon as it develops. 

 

"The space was built for entertaining. Although it was a church for a while, it was originally a theater, Miller said. Though the back half of the building no longer exists, the remaining portion housed the lobby.

 

Miller said he plans to build an addition on the back of the building, to provide enough room on the first floor for it to operate as a bar. The second floor, which has a capacity of around 150 people, will be dedicated to entertainment. The addition will have a rooftop patio, which will be accessible from the second-floor event space. The rooftop patio will look out onto the backyard, which will have a bocce court, a fire pit, and lots of plants.

 

“I want it to feel very cozy and beer-gardeny,” Miller said."

 

https://614now.com/2021/culture/entertainment-venue-planned-for-old-north-site

 

Edited February 6, 20214 yr by DTCL11

This is going to be great for the neighborhood. Wish he would squash the bocce ball court idea I feel like those never get used and are a waste of space that could be used for something better.

I could not get a picture but Borror has put the former white castle/Patrick Js lot up for sale. 

 

They installed a large sign with their logo that says Land for Sale. 1.2 Acres. I'd say that the redevelopment of that site is confirmed to be dead. 

 

Another couple years of gravel lots with folks selling tie dye is to be expected. 

 

Ive said it once, I'll say it a million times, I just really need that lot and the old Acre across the street to be redeveloped into a nice gateway for Old North from Clintonville. 

Edited February 20, 20214 yr by DTCL11

^Here ya go. I like the gateway idea! 
FWI: A new restaurant has opened in the Acre spot, the name escapes me. 
 

 

47 minutes ago, Pablo said:

^Here ya go. I like the gateway idea! 
FWI: A new restaurant has opened in the Acre spot, the name escapes me. 
 

 

The restaurant is called MozMoz. 
 

I think I okay with the Borror project not happening. Hopefully someone else buys it and does something better. It’s a rough place to try and do something though. Hopefully it doesn’t get turned into a fast food place again. 

On 2/20/2021 at 8:19 AM, DTCL11 said:

 

Another couple years of gravel lots with folks selling tie dye is to be expected. 

 

 

Wilcox and High (3-21-21)

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, NorthShore647 said:

Wilcox and High (3-21-21)

 

More of this, please. All along High St. in Old North Columbus. Too bad Clintonville isn't willing to adopt this kind of infill.

^It's really a nice scale for the street. 

On 2/20/2021 at 8:04 PM, Pablo said:

^Here ya go. I like the gateway idea! 
FWI: A new restaurant has opened in the Acre spot, the name escapes me. 
 

 

 

I posted this in the Clintonville page, but Business First put out an article about this lot being up for sale now:

 

 

A part of the old trolley facility is up for sale. 

 

  Originally part of a larger complex, it was eventually an AEP Building. Several years ago, a local doctor bought it and got it zoned residential to convert it into a home. This plans did not come to fruition. 

 

My hope is that someone creative, like Lykens will scoop it up. It would be a fascinating concept for retail and/or restaurant, maybe art gallery upstairs etc. Especially if the area between the buildings were enclosed with an atrium.  As much as I think it has great potential as a home, I'd rather see it turned into a super unique commercial space. 

 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/21-E-Arcadia-Ave-Columbus-OH-43202/300269546_zpid/?utm_medium=referral

25 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

A part of the old trolley facility is up for sale. 

 

  Originally part of a larger complex, it was eventually an AEP Building. Several years ago, a local doctor bought it and got it zoned residential to convert it into a home. This plans did not come to fruition. 

 

My hope is that someone creative, like Lykens will scoop it up. It would be a fascinating concept for retail and/or restaurant, maybe art gallery upstairs etc. Especially if the area between the buildings were enclosed with an atrium.  As much as I think it has great potential as a home, I'd rather see it turned into a super unique commercial space. 

 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/21-E-Arcadia-Ave-Columbus-OH-43202/300269546_zpid/?utm_medium=referral

Damn if I had just a bit more saved up. Drive by this all the time and dream about being able to live in it. seems really cheap for where it is also. 

The building under construction at Wilcox and High has been sitting idle for over 3 weeks. Today I noticed activity on the site. Hopefully they can get this project completed.

3 hours ago, Pablo said:

The building under construction at Wilcox and High has been sitting idle for over 3 weeks. Today I noticed activity on the site. Hopefully they can get this project completed.

Wonder if it’s been a supply issue? Or funding related. 

6 hours ago, Pablo said:

The building under construction at Wilcox and High has been sitting idle for over 3 weeks. Today I noticed activity on the site. Hopefully they can get this project completed.

I went by yesterday, which was a Sunday, and there were a couple guys hanging out the windows in the front measuring something.   I thought it was weird after not seeing much activity there for a while, to see people there on a Sunday.

On 9/18/2019 at 2:42 PM, Pablo said:

I'm encouraged to see this building is being renovated. One of my running routes takes me by Neil and W. Hudson and I often admire the building.

https://www.columbusunderground.com/plan-revealed-for-historic-neil-avenue-school-bw1

 

 

 

 

It looks like the renovation of the Open Air School building at Neil & Hudson is getting closer to completion.  New tenants are being announced:

• https://www.columbusunderground.com/local-brewery-expanding-with-new-concept-at-open-air-building-sp1
• https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/06/25/wolfs-ridge-prepping-new-restaurant-understory.html
• https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2021/06/24/wolfs-ridge-open-old-north-sister-location-neil-avenue-understory/5334608001/

Wolf's Ridge Brewing, which has a taproom and restaurant Downtown, is working on a bar, restaurant and events space called Understory inside the historic mixed-use Open Air building at 2571 Neil Avenue.

 

The Understory concept plans to take advantage of its proximity to the Olentangy Trail.  The building abuts a wooded area on the east side of the Olentangy River.  The trail runs through the wooded area, and an attached patio provides a view of the forest.  An events space will occupy the top floor of the building with a capacity for about 150 guests.

 

According to the three above linked articles, Understory will soon begin booking gatherings with the events space slated to open first in October, the lower level Understory bar/restaurant opening by November, and a cocktail lounge joining the lineup in December.

 

This location is also a short walk from a three-block section of the Old North that includes breakfast staple Jack and Benny's, Hounddog's Pizza, nightlife institution Ledo's Tavern, music venue Ace of Cups, Old North Arcade, venerable gay bar O'Connor's Club 20 and longtime jazz club Dick's Den.

 

Below are some photos provided of the new outdoor patio area overlooking the nearby section of the Olentangy Trail:

 

 

Will long-vacant movie theater in University District become a live music club and coffee shop?

Mark Ferenchik - The Dispatch - June 24, 2021

 

 

"Bobby Miller, who wants to convert the dilapidated building at 367-371 Hudson St. near Summit Street into a club called Lovebirds with a rooftop patio, an outdoor patio area out back with seating and a covered stage, and a bocce ball court. It would also house a Honey Cup Coffee shop during the day. ... But the plan hit a hurdle on Tuesday when the Columbus Board of Zoning Adjustment knotted 2-2 on a request by the building's owner, Bubbykins LLC, to reduce the number of required on-site parking spaces from 41 to zero. Miller said Bubbylkins, a company created by Nick Wolak, the owner of Evolved Body Art at 2520 Summit St., close to the Hudson Street building, might go back to the board this summer to ask for a vote of the full, five-member board. ... Miller said he worries that if he and the building owner can't get a variance, the building may have to be demolished. ... The University Area Commission supported the project and variance. Doreen Uhas Sauer, the commission's president, said many residents gave it a thumbs up."

1 hour ago, NorthShore647 said:

But the plan hit a hurdle on Tuesday when the Columbus Board of Zoning Adjustment knotted 2-2 on a request by the building's owner, Bubbykins LLC, to reduce the number of required on-site parking spaces from 41 to zero. 

 

This gets me so riled up. A local small developer wants to reactivate an old structure, of which we have so few, into an establishment that would add to the area, and you deny it because you want parking in a neighborhood that doesn't need it!? And the only other option is a tear-down!? Until Columbus stops thinking this way, it will continue to languish as far as true urban development is concerned.

3 minutes ago, CMHOhio said:

 

This gets me so riled up. A local small developer wants to reactivate an old structure, of which we have so few, into an establishment that would add to the area, and you deny it because you want parking in a neighborhood that doesn't need it!? And the only other option is a tear-down!? Until Columbus stops thinking this way, it will continue to languish as far as true urban development is concerned.

Agreed! A few years ago small coffee shop was denied on W Pacemont in Clintonville because they couldn't provide off street parking. The shop was goin into an existing building but it was a change in use. It's almost as if the City of Columbus would rather keep store fronts empty. I can't wait for the zoning code to be revised to stop suburban standards from being applied to more urban areas.

Wow how embarrassing. Only in this city smh!

I just wrote a very hotly-worded correspondence to the city zoning board at:

 

[email protected]

 

If anyone would like to do the same.

That would be a perfect place for a coffee shop/club too. That little business district (would it be considered SoHud?) has so much potential. It has some cool businesses already, but I always wished they had a coffee shop or something up that way to draw people like me into the neighborhood. Plus as others have said, it would be such a shame to lose another original neighborhood commercial building like this!

Moved this article and five reply posts about this proposed renovation project at 367 E. Hudson Street near Summit Street from the University Area developments thread into this Old North developments thread:

 

On 6/28/2021 at 1:05 PM, NorthShore647 said:

Will long-vacant movie theater in University District become a live music club and coffee shop?

Mark Ferenchik - The Dispatch - June 24, 2021

 

 

"Bobby Miller, who wants to convert the dilapidated building at 367-371 Hudson St. near Summit Street into a club called Lovebirds with a rooftop patio, an outdoor patio area out back with seating and a covered stage, and a bocce ball court. It would also house a Honey Cup Coffee shop during the day. ... But the plan hit a hurdle on Tuesday when the Columbus Board of Zoning Adjustment knotted 2-2 on a request by the building's owner, Bubbykins LLC, to reduce the number of required on-site parking spaces from 41 to zero. Miller said Bubbylkins, a company created by Nick Wolak, the owner of Evolved Body Art at 2520 Summit St., close to the Hudson Street building, might go back to the board this summer to ask for a vote of the full, five-member board. ... Miller said he worries that if he and the building owner can't get a variance, the building may have to be demolished. ... The University Area Commission supported the project and variance. Doreen Uhas Sauer, the commission's president, said many residents gave it a thumbs up."

 

Despite the location falling into the University Area Commission's initial jurisdiction before going to the Columbus Board of Zoning Adjustment, the 367 E. Hudson Street location is within the Old North Columbus neighborhood district (also the SoHud sub-district, which is part of Old North).

 

Here is an earlier post about this project in this thread:

On 2/5/2021 at 7:03 PM, DTCL11 said:

Plans moving forward for a live entertainment venue at the site of the old "church."

 

The owners of Evolved bought the building awhile back and tore down the original theater.

 

Also noticed that they bought the corner lot last year and changed the property to be part of the LLC. My assumption is it will remain parking. The site is an old service station and would require environmental mitigation. 

 

This will add to the already hefty number of live music venues across Old North. I've often believed that is a strong part of Old North's identity and should be built upon as it develops. 

 

"The space was built for entertaining. Although it was a church for a while, it was originally a theater, Miller said. Though the back half of the building no longer exists, the remaining portion housed the lobby.

 

Miller said he plans to build an addition on the back of the building, to provide enough room on the first floor for it to operate as a bar. The second floor, which has a capacity of around 150 people, will be dedicated to entertainment. The addition will have a rooftop patio, which will be accessible from the second-floor event space. The rooftop patio will look out onto the backyard, which will have a bocce court, a fire pit, and lots of plants.

 

“I want it to feel very cozy and beer-gardeny,” Miller said."

 

https://614now.com/2021/culture/entertainment-venue-planned-for-old-north-site

 

 

And here is an article about this project that was posted over in the Columbus Bars and Nightlife thread:

On 2/21/2021 at 5:21 PM, Columbo said:

https://www.columbusalive.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/02/03/new-bar-and-concert-venue-lovebirds-coming-to-old-north-this-year/43371945/

 

Above is a kind of companion piece to the Ace of Cups article.  This article is about a planned opening later this year of a new bar/music venue located in the same Old North/SoHud neighborhood as Ace of Cups.

 

Lovebirds, a new bar and music venue set to open later this year at 367 E. Hudson Street, is scheduled to begin construction next month in a building that originally opened as a movie theater in 1925.  One of the reasons for this new venue is that the Lovebirds owner wanted to operate a venue like Ace of Cups - and attempted to purchase it until someone else bought it instead.

 

8 hours ago, Dblcut3 said:

That would be a perfect place for a coffee shop/club too. That little business district (would it be considered SoHud?) has so much potential. It has some cool businesses already, but I always wished they had a coffee shop or something up that way to draw people like me into the neighborhood. Plus as others have said, it would be such a shame to lose another original neighborhood commercial building like this!

Several businesses moved to SoHud from High St (Evolved, Used Kids). I don't know if they were pushed out due to the Campus Partners homogenization of High St. or just saw the writing on the wall. This summer there's been a flea market every weekend on the small parking lot at Hudson and Summit. There is room to grow a bit in the area - there are vacancies in store fronts at Hudson and Indianola. The City and it's parking requirements will be the biggest hurdle for this area.

Had no idea you could enforce parking minimums against existing historic buildings. How very 1960s.

Small update Lovebirds posted on their Instagram caption about the parking variance they are seeking. Keep sending emails!

More updates from Love Birds Bar

1 hour ago, 614love said:

More updates from Love Birds Bar

Still hate they had to redo anything, but this seems reasonable. Hopefully this gets passed and in a few years they can add the covered stage. 

In theory, they could put a roof over the addition rooftop patio and it becomes an elevated stage? And/or add a rooftop element over the parking as well. 

 

But still frustrating that there is even a chance the city still nixes it. 

Good news! They got the variance and hopefully they start on it soon. 

Former movie theater in University District cleared to become coffee shop, live music venue

Mark Ferenchik - The Dispatch - Sep. 1, 2021

 

 

"'There are things that allow certain cities to to do certain things. It falls back to density. Putting Lovebirds there, you're putting in a little more density there. You're starting to create an area that's a five- 10-minute walk to five different music venues.' He is referring to the nearby Rumba Cafe around the corner on Summit Street and the Rambling House farther west on Hudson Street, along with Spacebar and Ace of Cups, where Miller used to work booking acts, down on North High Street. 'We have discussed an idea about creating a music festival at some point, making it a community festival,' Miller said. 'That's down the road.'"

On 6/7/2021 at 8:32 AM, Pablo said:

The building under construction at Wilcox and High has been sitting idle for over 3 weeks. Today I noticed activity on the site. Hopefully they can get this project completed.

after being stalled again for many months,  i went by here today and there was actually some activity on site again!  i only saw one or two guys and a ladder, but it's better than nothing...

Didn't stop for a pic but just went by Wilcox and High a few minutes ago...  There are at least four workers on site! 

 

At this rate, maybe it will be completed by 2023ish?

A little update on the Lovebirds club, via the Dispatch:

 

Work to transform Hudson Street theater to live music club awaits city building permits

 

“In an email, the building's owner, Nick Wolak, said, "We are basically just waiting for the permits from the city." Bubbykins LLC, a company Wolak formed, owns the building. Wolak is also the owner of Evolved Body Art at 2520 Summit St., located close to the old theater.

 

Bobby Miller, who lives nearby, wants to convert the building in the University District's SoHud neighborhood into a club called Lovebirds that he would run as owner/operator.

 

"We’re close to getting our building permits," Miller said this week. He also received conditional approval from Columbus Public Health to offer food service, according to a March 1 letter. 
 

"We have all our contractors lined up. We're just waiting (for permits), sitting at the starting line. It's been a pretty crazy roller coaster the last year or so," said Miller, who used to book acts at the Ace of Cups on North High Street.”

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2022/03/04/owner-former-hudson-street-theater-still-working-toward-music-club/9341070002/?utm_source=dispatch-Daily Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=list_article_thumb&utm_content=OHIO-COLUMBUS-NLETTER65

Some information for the old Trolley Barns in Old North... houses. There was a zoning change notice on the lawn last month so I was thinking they were going to change it to commercial from residential but i didnt get around to looking it up. I had really hoped they would be something that contributes more to the neighborhood but I'm still glad to see them saved. 

 

I think that if the Borror property had come to fruition, the calculations may have been different. The whole intersection at Arcadia and High is begging for change. 

 

There's a part about campus Walgreens as well. 

 

https://columbusunderground.com/university-district-new-walgreens-unique-renovation-discussed-by-board-bw1/

 

 

Edited March 29, 20223 yr by DTCL11

I remember seeing the listing for the old AEP facility last year. Looks like a decent way to save/reuse those structures. 

39 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

Some information for the old Trolley Barns in Old North... houses. There was a zoning change notice on the lawn last month so I was thinking they were going to change it to commercial from residential but i didnt get around to looking it up. I had really hoped they would be something that contributes more to the neighborhood but I'm still glad to see them saved. 

 

I think that if the Borror property had come to fruition, the calculations may have been different. The whole intersection at Arcadia and High is begging for change. 

 

There's a part about campus Walgreens as well. 

 

https://columbusunderground.com/university-district-new-walgreens-unique-renovation-discussed-by-board-bw1/

 

 

I saw renderings a few months ago, and think it’s a good reuse. They are not adding windows on the east or west sides of the buildings, which seemed weird to me. 

Looks like the Patrick J's site JUST sold.

 

The company is Stark Capital Ventures, LLC. Does not appear related to Stark Enterprises out of Cleveland (re NuCLEus).

 

I followed the rabbit hole and I hope 2+2 does not equal 4.

 

The Stark Ventures LLC is new with the sale. The business mailing address is the Holiday Inn on Olentangy River Road. That property belongs to JAP GURU LLC. The business mailing address for the Holiday Inn Property is a Hampton Inn on S Hamilton Road owned by Columbus Hotel Investment Group LLC out of Georgia, whose address belongs to IPD Hospitality.

 

https://www.ipdhospitality.com/

 

IPD Hospitality specializes in management, construction, and design of the following hotel brands: Hampton Inn, Sleep Inn, Holiday Inn, Super 8, Comfort Inn, Comfort Suites, Quality Inn, and Best Westerns.

 

So folks, looks like the intersection of Arcadia and High may be the home of Columbus's next premier budget hotel.

 

For the love of god, I hope this is wrong and maybe they want to venture into something else, but if the tea leaves are accurate, I just... can't.... I'll be praying to all that is holy that maybe it is something better than that. Perhaps I'm being a bit dramatic... maybe they'll make it a nice hotel like the Hampton Inn Convention Center? maybe....? Dont get me wrong, there are nice examples of these hotels, I'm just not expecting it at this location from the IPD group based on their portfolio. I'm not seeing much in the way of great urban hotel design. 

 

Edited March 30, 20223 yr by DTCL11

19 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

Looks like the Patrick J's site JUST sold.

 

The company is Stark Capital Ventures, LLC. Does not appear related to Stark Enterprises out of Cleveland (re NuCLEus).

 

I followed the rabbit hole and I hope 2+2 does not equal 4.

 

The Stark Ventures LLC is new with the sale. The business mailing address is the Holiday Inn on Olentangy River Road. That property belongs to JAP GURU LLC. The business mailing address for the Holiday Inn Property is a Hampton Inn on S Hamilton Road owned by Columbus Hotel Investment Group LLC out of Georgia, whose address belongs to IPD Hospitality.

 

https://www.ipdhospitality.com/

 

IPD Hospitality specializes in management, construction, and design of the following hotel brands: Hampton Inn, Sleep Inn, Holiday Inn, Super 8, Comfort Inn, Comfort Suites, Quality Inn, and Best Westerns.

 

So folks, looks like the intersection of Arcadia and High may be the home of Columbus's next premier budget hotel.

 

For the love of god, I hope this is wrong and maybe they want to venture into something else, but if the tea leaves are accurate, I just... can't.... I'll be praying to all that is holy that maybe it is something better than that. Perhaps I'm being a bit dramatic... maybe they'll make it a nice hotel like the Hampton Inn Convention Center? maybe....? Dont get me wrong, there are nice examples of these hotels, I'm just not expecting it at this location from the IPD group based on their portfolio. I'm not seeing much in the way of great urban hotel design. 

 

It could end up being a Hotel Indigo, there currently isn’t one in Columbus and it’s a part of IHG and about equal to or greater than a Hampton or Hilton Garden Inn. I could see that fitting into this location and market.

45 minutes ago, wpcc88 said:

It could end up being a Hotel Indigo, there currently isn’t one in Columbus and it’s a part of IHG and about equal to or greater than a Hampton or Hilton Garden Inn. I could see that fitting into this location and market.

 

Perhaps. IPD doesn't have any Indigos in their portfolio so it would be their first. I stay in hotels as much as 200+ nights a year including a few Indigos and they're great. Although all the Indigos I have stayed in were entirely converted suburban hotels. I haven't stayed in any new build Indigos.  Again, I'm not knocking brand per se. I stay in quite a few Hamptons, good, bad, and ugly, and there are amazing Holiday Inns out there too. For me, it really comes down the portfolio of IPD. And it doesn't look great.  Their portfolio appears to be entirely suburban. I hope this is their attempt to do something different but my hopes are not high.

 

At best I think we end up with a hotel that may front High Street but still has too much surface parking, too many curb cuts, and we will be lucky if it has any public amenities such as a restaurant, bar, coffee shop etc. I think the location and community deserve more than a single use, car focused development and maybe, just maybe, IPD wants to use this location as their segway into more urban designs and properties.

Like I said, I'll pray to any entity out there for a good development, especially if it helps bring more, but I don't love the initial signs. They paid a pretty penny for that lot so here's hoping that it will force them to invest more into a better development for a better ROI. Borror more than tripled their investment by doing nothing for 5 years lol.

 

Edit: I wonder if anyone detailed the University Review Board and Clintonville Commission split to them... If not, they could be in for more than they expected lol  Eight Stories south of the creek with 2 or 3 levels of parking deck north of it sounds good to me.

Edited March 30, 20223 yr by DTCL11