Posted October 5, 200915 yr There you have it. There is a downside though, some old fuddy duddy is whining that there's no "e" on the end of "old". Preservation society member Seth Golding said the project will give Olde North Columbus a brand that could improve the quality of life for its 8,000 residents. "We're trying to differentiate the area from north campus," Golding said. "We do have a lot of students living in our area, but it's a very diverse mix." Despite the makeover, one problem remains for establishing an identity: The signs on them say "Old North Columbus, not "Olde." " Olde was the spelling in the 1850s," Golding said. "It's more quaint -- not just 'old.' " Said Wildman: "It's supposed to be corrected." This neighborhood ain't quaint and residents and the businesses they support clearly and proudly demonstrate that. You can e-mail them to leave the arches alone (or if you love olde timey branding you can do the opposite).
October 5, 200915 yr I wish they looked less like the Short North arches, but the streetscape is finally coming together nicely.
October 5, 200915 yr I was walking past them as they were putting the arch up. It looks nice but I'm not sure it will do much to differentiate Olde North from North Campus.
October 5, 200915 yr Well, I want my Peruvian seafood. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 5, 200915 yr Just noticed that on a bike ride yesterday. I was wondering if it had been there the whole time and I'd just been so frustrated with the traffic congestion that I'd missed it. I don't mind the similarity to the Short North arches. Didn't the original streetcar arches (to which the SN arches are an homage) go the full length of High?
October 5, 200915 yr I don't know anything about the history of the neighborhood and whether it was traditionally spelled "Olde" or "Old".... but I'd rather see them leave the "Old". Seems less like a "lifestyle centre" that way. But I'm a Cincinnatian, so my input doesn't really matter.
October 5, 200915 yr Just noticed that on a bike ride yesterday. I was wondering if it had been there the whole time and I'd just been so frustrated with the traffic congestion that I'd missed it. I don't mind the similarity to the Short North arches. Didn't the original streetcar arches (to which the SN arches are an homage) go the full length of High? Actually, the original arches a century ago didn't even go to the Short North. They were just downtown on High. And I believe there were some on Main as well.
October 5, 200915 yr I don't care for the "olde" either. And I'm not sure North Columbus went as far south as campus, anyway. I believe it was originally just a couple blocks either side of Hudson.
October 5, 200915 yr I find Columbus' obsession with "North" fascinating. The Short North ends at 5th avenue. The "Northside" library branch is at 7th avenue. "Upper" Arlington and Grandview are crisscrossed by "North Star" "Northwest" and "Northham" streets. Then there's the ghost of "Northland" mall, and of course, the newest (for now) "north"-themed development rage, "Polaris." North = Progress, I suppose.
October 5, 200915 yr The arches are just the tip of the iceberg. It's part of a huge streetscape improvement plan including new road pavement, sidewalks, trees and sewers in that area. The arches are kinda useless compared to those other elements but it does look nice and for some reason I think they give the illusion of High St. being of smaller scale.
October 5, 200915 yr Hasn't the south side historically (and to this day) been heavy manufacturing and landfill? I can see how a march in the other direction would be a step up.
October 5, 200915 yr Both the South Northstar and North Northstar versions. f$&king LOVE Northstar. I'm so going there next pay day...
October 5, 200915 yr Author Much more utilitarian are the dozens of bike racks included in the improvements here. No more scratching my head for where to lock up at some places over here. It's about time part of the Share The Road campaign on High actually progress beyond just two signs. As far as the south side of High, it's just extremely car oriented which precludes any sort of urban development. It gets even worse south of SR 104 when you cross into Scioto Southland which, despite it's large size is a cultural void with little to do aside from driving to a car shop of some sort, of which there are dozens. They do have one of the few remaining drive-in theaters, which can't be said for any north side neighborhood. Still, Old North Columbus is one of the best and is better than the Short North for actually having stores that serve a utilitarian purpose and delivering on restaurant and nightlife options. I'd love to see arches for some of the sub-neighborhoods. One for Washington Beach, SoHud, and Awesometown.
October 5, 200915 yr Development of Columbus was north-oriented because the river, and the urban detritus it carried, flowed south. (Henry Hunker, Columbus: A Personal Geography.) Olde Northe Columbuse truly has the neatest stretch of High Street commerical, with a local drug store, local hardware store, and other useful stuff, though it has far more than its share of watering holes.
October 5, 200915 yr I would like to see one of these in downtown Cleveland. There was a spot near Huron and 9th somewhere where it used to have similar arch that said "New Center" or something to that nature.
October 6, 200915 yr Nice night-time pics of the arches. I'm not surprised they look like the Short North arches. Success leads to imitation. And I think I prefer that the arches look more similar then different. Streetscape elements like these can offer some needed visual continuity to the public realm. According to the Dispatch article, the arches are part of a $15.8 million project that also includes storm sewers, water lines, new pavement, sidewalks, bike racks, streetlights and trees over a 10 block area on High Street. The map of the neighborhood shows the project area along High Street from Lane to Arcadia.
October 12, 200915 yr One of my old 'hoods is looking good! I love the idea of neighborhood designation such as this, especially since the City of Columbus is so large.
January 12, 201015 yr Love the concept and wouldn't mind seeing it continued north along High Street with a "Clintonville" arch and a "Worthington" arch.
March 18, 201015 yr Author Old North Columbus is one of the best C-bus neighborhoods around: great variety of restaurants, bars, and retail along with a mixed residential base from all walks of life. The sub-neighborhoods consist of: Washington Beach, Washington Bluffs, Awesome Town, SoHud, and Glen Echo South MAP Arch City revival. The Library is actually a bar. Stopped in for a haircut. Three months was enough. Kafe Kerouac: coffeeshop, bookstore, record shop, with DJ's on some Saturdays. My friends were digging the impromptu topless girls dancing there. This place tends to have an effect on patrons. Notice that the Asian language on the window is Korean, not Japanese. Taj Bar is great: live music, Indian food, and Indian beers. Alana's is one of the best restaurants in the city. Trained under Emeril, you know. Hear good things, but still haven't been for some reason. Blue Nile also has a lunch buffet. I recommend it. Johnny Oak's: the real deal. Most popular hookah lounge. Weird building. Faye's has مواد غذائية عربية ...Across the the street. Why not? Works for me. The Dube. An evening diner must. A couple of retail spots were built out from the front of North Campus Video. A slice of suburban heaven. Jack & Benny's is a breakfast fave. I just can't get up early enough. The two spots on the right were casualties of months long road/sewage improvements. You read right. Sunflower also couldn't withstand the lengthy sewer/road improvements. Miani's with a different name. The Sioux are in Columbus? Mediterranean Food Imports is a local grocery options. Hounddog's Pizza (some of the best in the city) and Ravari Room: a part of a good night out. Ooh, a CVS. Almost as good as a Trader Joe's. Something new. What a shame. End of the line!
March 18, 201015 yr Looks like a wonderful neighborhood, offering most everything one would need. It'd be possible to avoid the suburban-looking area if you didn't need gas for a car, or didn't experience a sudden craving for greasy carryout. Improved Order of Red Men. A fraternal organization of the nature of Masons and Odd Fellows. Once in a while you'll see a turn-of-the-century (20th) building with a carved stone emblem identifying it as I.O.R.M. They're still around, still active, although like many such groups, their membership is aging.
March 18, 201015 yr Miani's (Sloopy's), Cluck U Chicken, Hound Dogs Pizza, Scarlet & Grey Cafe... FTW!!!! Damn I miss college
March 18, 201015 yr It really does have it all, from an urbanist standpoint. Even a grocery store with an "urban" gas station. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 18, 201015 yr I loves me some zero-setback gas station: I wondered what that was going to be. I have a friend who lives next to that, and noticed that the bricks are load-bearing!
March 18, 201015 yr I LOVE the restaurants in that area... good memories. Hound Dog's Pizza is a must every time I'm in town. One of the best pizzas I've had anywhere... period.
March 18, 201015 yr I don't recall those stately looking Federal-style (or are they Georgian?) homes in the 9th pic down, especially in that neighborhood. Where are they located? http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
March 18, 201015 yr Author Those homes are just northwest of Kafe Kerouac off of Northwood. Hound Dog's is in my top 3 list with Adriatico's and Clever Crow (The latter being part of Mr. Bourdain's introduction to Columbus).
March 18, 201015 yr geez, I should know where they are. I lived briefly in a rooming house on Northwood in the 70's. It was an immaculate, beautifully maintained home (filled with furnishings circa 1940's) but the landlady (with the unlikely name of Zenobia Angel) was bordering on the psychotic. One day when I came home she was bleeding profusely as she had slashed her arm from broken glass while cleaning a window outside. I asked if she needed help and she nonchalantly declined, seemingly oblivious to her condition. Additionally, she never, ever had any lights on, even at night. I also remember she had a vicious dog that was always tied-up outside and did not make me feel very welcome to be there, even after I'd lived there a couple of months. However, I do remember an ice cream store called Gordon's a few blocks south toward campus on the west side of High Street! (I was in there all the time) http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
March 19, 201015 yr Awesome Town? That can't be a nickname left over from the '20s. Sounds like the Ninja Turtles named it.
March 19, 201015 yr Looks like a cool neighborhood with a lot of great food options. I like the looks of the pictures from the beginning of the thread more, though, as towards the end it starts to look a little hit or miss. I love all the homes turned into restaurants, and those Federal style buildings!
March 20, 201015 yr I moved to this neighborhood nearly two months ago to be closer to campus, and love the convenience of it. I get around on foot 98% of the time so the proximity to so many food options and cafes, with a few quirky shops thrown in, makes my life easier. There's also excellent access to Tuttle Park and the Greenway (I'm on the west side of High), and it's only a 10-15 minute walk to the Giant Eagle just north of the neighborhood. Also, little known tidbit: at Faye's, they run a dollar store out of the backroom. If it's not open, just ask... Thanks for the pics!
March 25, 201015 yr Author Can't believe I forgot to include this pic: guy riding unicycle and juggling while cycling against traffic. It's this kind of off-color stuff that makes Old North Columbus and the Peach District such great places.
March 25, 201015 yr Wow that juggling unicycle pic is just ... ah ... well ... its just ... like ... you know ... wow. Can you swear that wasn't photoshopped in?
February 1, 20169 yr Borror Properties announces second White Castle joint venture in Clintonville Borror Properties announced it will partner with White Castle System Inc. to redevelop Patrick J’s and a vacant lot next door on High Street in Clintonville. The Dublin-based developer on Monday confirmed White Castle’s involvement in a second prominent project along High Street, this time at 2711 N. High St. and 2725 N. High St. We reported Sunday that Borror was Patrick J's buyer. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2016/02/01/borror-properties-announces-second-white-castle.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 7, 20169 yr More about the Patrick J's site: http://www.columbusunderground.com/borror-properties-white-castle-patrick-js Borror Properties Planning New Old North / Clintonville Development
February 7, 20169 yr Over the past two months, a proposal to redevelop the entire west side of High Street between Northwood and Oakland avenues was submitted to the City's University Area Review Board. The proposal - The View on Pavey Square - originally called for demolishing 6 of the 8 buildings on the block and constructing an 11-story, 250,000 square foot building featuring a 400-bed student housing portion, a parking garage, and two spots for restaurants along High Street at the corners of Oakland and Northwood. Here is a view of the west side of High Street between Northwood and Oakland from http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-view-on-pavey-square-bw1: Here is a rendering of the same block with the View on Pavey Square proposal. Only two of the buildings facing High Street would be retained under this proposal: Below is a site plan for this proposal. Additional renderings for the original View on Pavey Square proposal are at http://www.columbusunderground.com/view-on-pavey-osu-bw1:
February 7, 20169 yr This proposal to virtually obliterate an entire intact block of historic buildings and replace it with a high density development more appropriate for the University District south of Lane Avenue - unsurprisingly - was not well received. Area residents started a petition opposing the proposal at https://www.change.org/p/columbus-city-council-zach-klein-preserve-the-university-district-s-100-year-old-beautiful-pavey-block. Neighbors also gathered at the City's University Area Review Board (UARB) meeting in December to oppose the proposal: http://www.columbusunderground.com/protect-old-north. As a result, the developer presented a slightly modified proposal at the next UARB meeting in Janaury: http://www.columbusunderground.com/pavey-project-update This modified proposal reduced the project's overall height to 8 stories and updated the exterior design. However, it still called for the demolition of most the existing historic buildings on the block. In fact, the number of retained buildings dropped from two to one! So this proposal was no better received than the original View on Pavey Square proposal was.
February 7, 20169 yr So, as a result of the neighborhood opposition and the UARB encouraging the developer to rethink their proposal, the developer is now floating a new View on Pavey Square proposal. This new proposal includes a seven-story building running along the alley on the back of the site that contains 79 apartment units containing 290 beds above a structured parking deck. All 8 of the existing High Street buildings on the block would be retained as commercial office and restaurant spaces. The architecture for the new proposal haven't been released yet. But here is the updated site plan of this new View on Pavey Square proposal from http://www.columbusunderground.com/development-project-updated-to-preserve-historic-high-street-buildings:
February 8, 20169 yr ^^Much better. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 8, 20169 yr Still a lot of rumblings against the proposal. Some don't like demolition of the outbuildings along the alley, and a lot don't like (or understand) density. And a growing number are opposed to the idea of Klaus System parking that stacks cars (and is rumored to be part of the new Pavey proposal).
February 9, 20169 yr Still a lot of rumblings against the proposal. Some don't like demolition of the outbuildings along the alley, and a lot don't like (or understand) density. And a growing number are opposed to the idea of Klaus System parking that stacks cars (and is rumored to be part of the new Pavey proposal). I don't get the problem they have with the parking? This proposal seems to be a pretty good compromise to me and a good way to add density without destroying the streetscape/entire fabric of a neighborhood while keeping the area devoted to parking at a minimum.
February 16, 20169 yr Pavey Square apartment plan scaled back to preserve High Street buildings Responding to concerns from neighborhood commissioners and neighbors, developers have scaled back plans for an apartment complex that called for the demolition of historic properties along High Street near Ohio State University. Celmark Development Group Inc. and Solove Real Estate will present revised plans Thursday for the View on Pavey Square, which would be built along an alley running parallel to High Street between Oakland and Northwood avenues. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2016/02/16/pavey-square-apartment-plan-scaled-back-to.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 10, 20169 yr Pavey Square Project Gets Major Design Update By Walker Evans, Columbus Underground March 10, 2016 - 9:43 am The developers of The View on Pavey Square will return to the University Area Review Board (UARB) next week to present an update design update for their mixed-use proposal. Most significantly, the large new building located in the rear of the property is getting a height reduction and a new architectural style, while six buildings on High Street will be renovated and preserved. The only building slated for demolition and replacement in this version of the proposal is the corner building at Northwood and High that currently houses Cazuela’s Grill. “That corner building is in pretty bad shape, and doesn’t have a true relationship to the other six buildings,” explained Mike Balakrishnan, founder of Celmark Development Group. “The new building will be adding a new element that won’t be conflicting with what’s in that area.” ( . . . ) The building in the back of the property has been reduced to six stories with a basement. The basement and ground floor will contain parking, while floors two through six contain a total of 107 apartment units. The new corner building at Northwood would include eight additional apartment units on the second and third floors. MORE: http://www.columbusunderground.com/pavey-square-project-gets-major-design-update
March 10, 20169 yr Here is the new site plan and architectural renderings for the revised Pavey Square project design from http://www.columbusunderground.com/pavey-square-project-gets-major-design-update: VIEW FROM HIGH & OAKLAND OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT BLOCK: VIEW OF THE NEW CORNER BUILDING AT HIGH & NORTHWOOD: MID-BLOCK VIEW FROM HIGH STREET OF THE EXISTING HOUSES WITH THE NEW ALLEY BUILDING IN THE BACKGROUND: THE NEW ALLEY BUILDING AS SEEN FROM THE ALLEY: More renderings of this revised Pavey Square project design are available at http://www.columbusunderground.com/pavey-square-project-gets-major-design-update
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