Does anyone know if there are plans to bring the street improvements in the Short North and campus up through Old North? I'd particularly like to see the better marked crosswalks, and pedestrian bump outs at those popular crossing locations between traffic lights. 

 

Also, have Patrick Js and the 2500 N high projects stalled out? I'm itching to see some new density in Old North. 

1 minute ago, DTCL11 said:

Does anyone know if there are plans to bring the street improvements in the Short North and campus up through Old North? I'd particularly like to see the better marked crosswalks, and pedestrian bump outs at those popular crossing locations between traffic lights. 

 

Also, have Patrick Js and the 2500 N high projects stalled out? I'm itching to see some new density in Old North. 

 

I believe the High Street improvements are slated to terminate at 9th & High. I don't believe any plan has been laid out for north of 9th Ave, I don't actually know if there is going to be a plan but High through campus is pretty rough and congested so I imagine we will see something at one point or another. 

 

https://www.columbus.gov/Templates/Detail.aspx?id=2147495080

 

As for the developments...

I have no clue what Borror is doing but the project is still listed on their website as proposed and coming soon.

The project at 2500 N High is still going and I believe is slated to break ground soon. Their variances were granted at last months UAIRB meeting and they submitted the final designs. I would guess either late this year or early spring depending on how they have handled the leases of current tenants on property. 

 

https://columbusohdev.app.box.com/s/zkqm8l52grp6b9xm1lbaf18ix37voh95

^The existing building on Tompkins St. is undergoing renovations. It appears the tenants of the small office building at Tompkins and High have moved out.

6 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

Does anyone know if there are plans to bring the street improvements in the Short North and campus up through Old North? I'd particularly like to see the better marked crosswalks, and pedestrian bump outs at those popular crossing locations between traffic lights. 

 

Also, have Patrick Js and the 2500 N high projects stalled out? I'm itching to see some new density in Old North. 

 

Good luck with the crosswalk markings. I've talked about this before, but I'm literally disgusted with the crosswalks in this city. Even in the Short North they don't use the striped, clearly marked crosswalks. It's all the two lane "standard/type A" crosswalk and it seriously pisses me off. I actually want to start a petition to make the standards higher.

8 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

Does anyone know if there are plans to bring the street improvements in the Short North and campus up through Old North? I'd particularly like to see the better marked crosswalks, and pedestrian bump outs at those popular crossing locations between traffic lights. 

 

Also, have Patrick Js and the 2500 N high projects stalled out? I'm itching to see some new density in Old North. 

They redid the street in Old North Columbus around 10 years ago (photo evidence from a senior crawl), I doubt they're going to make any changes any time soon. 

Edited October 17, 20195 yr by 17thState
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11 hours ago, Zyrokai said:

 

Good luck with the crosswalk markings. I've talked about this before, but I'm literally disgusted with the crosswalks in this city. Even in the Short North they don't use the striped, clearly marked crosswalks. It's all the two lane "standard/type A" crosswalk and it seriously pisses me off. I actually want to start a petition to make the standards higher.

 

I don't want to take this thread off-topic so I started a separate thread to discuss this: 

 

12 hours ago, 17thState said:

They redid the street in Old North Columbus around 10 years ago (photo evidence from a senior crawl), I doubt they're going to make any changes any time soon. 

 

They redid 4th more recently and they just added a pedestrian bump out, lighted, and lined crosswalk at the IBEW/Jeffrey Park crosswalk with two flashing signs. I'd bet money on at least one or two more going in near seventh son/buddy dairy as well. Seems like It's most likely a matter of where things (ie. Development) is happening. Hopfeully a project or two with increased pedestrian activity will convince the city that this very intersection as well as perhaps around Tompkins is worthy of something better. This area is also known for pedestrian/vehicle incidents so you would hope that would hold some weight too. 

Early October photo of The View on Pavey Square, as seen from corner of N. High Street and Northwood Avenue from https://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-downtown-columbus-we1

 

You can tell its from a month ago because the trees still have green foliage and it was still warm enough to ride around in motorcycles with short sleeves(!)

 

Another view of The View on Pavey Square, this time from Northwood Avenue looking back to High Street:

1 hour ago, Columbo said:

Early October photo of The View on Pavey Square, as seen from corner of N. High Street and Northwood Avenue from https://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-downtown-columbus-we1

 

You can tell its from a month ago because the trees still have green foliage and it was still warm enough to ride around in motorcycles with short sleeves(!)

 

Another view of The View on Pavey Square, this time from Northwood Avenue looking back to High Street:

Thank you for posting these, however this was pretty bad work on CU's part.  They posted a picture in Victorian Village of the apartment project between Thurber & Michigan Ave's during this "update" even though the project has been stalled for almost two years.

17 hours ago, wpcc88 said:

Thank you for posting these, however this was pretty bad work on CU's part. 

 

CU has been getting progressively worse over the last year. Not sure what has been the issue but it is becoming less relevant for development news. Perhaps that's the direction they want to go? I ended up subscribing to biz-first now that is seems CU cant keep up anymore. 

27 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

 

CU has been getting progressively worse over the last year. Not sure what has been the issue but it is becoming less relevant for development news. Perhaps that's the direction they want to go? I ended up subscribing to biz-first now that is seems CU cant keep up anymore. 

Biz-First used to be in name only when it came to development, thanks to CU.  However that's completely flipped and kudos to BF, however CU isn't as favorable overall compared to some of the other publications in town. I've never really had an issue per say with Walker, but I know a lot of people do and that can't help.  And it wasn't from their reporting over there because I think even when I disagree with them they're fair, he just couldn't step away from talking down to people on social media.

The closer Pavey gets to completion, the more I fear they won't be painting the dryer vents.  The white vents in a non symmetrical patterns all over the facade kill me each time I pass by. 

On 11/4/2019 at 10:01 AM, wpcc88 said:

Biz-First used to be in name only when it came to development, thanks to CU.  However that's completely flipped and kudos to BF, however CU isn't as favorable overall compared to some of the other publications in town. I've never really had an issue per say with Walker, but I know a lot of people do and that can't help.  And it wasn't from their reporting over there because I think even when I disagree with them they're fair, he just couldn't step away from talking down to people on social media.

 

I mean, a lot of things people on there say are stupid after they shut down the forum and went to comment-only. Maybe he shouldn't talk down to them but I'd find it hard to resist as well.

Edited December 5, 20195 yr by GCrites80s

The Pavey sure is a long building. 
 

 

Also, I’m amazed this Gingko is still alive considering the amount of excavation and construction that happened right next to the tree. 
 

 

On 12/22/2019 at 2:07 PM, Pablo said:

The Pavey sure is a long building. 
 

 

So many....White.... dryer..... vents 

 

I can’t unsee them

Ugh, now you've ruined it for me too. Soo many vents. 

...and you don't want to paint them because they might not open when the dryer comes on. That's what we as a society get for making so many things only in white.

9 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

...and you don't want to paint them because they might not open when the dryer comes on. That's what we as a society get for making so many things only in white.

 

They come in various colors including brick tones and black. You can get the contractor pack of those colors from lowes. Special order in many cases but they are available. Some siding manufacturer even offer them to match their colors from what I've seen in around the country working with contractors. It's also industry appropriate to paint them. There are proper ways to do it with no issues. There are also different designs that eliminate the concern of using and opening. Just an overlooked detail from the contractor, commission, city, designer or any combination of them. 

Edited December 24, 20195 yr by DTCL11

1 hour ago, DTCL11 said:

 

They come in various colors including brick tones and black. You can get the contractor pack of those colors from lowes. Special order in many cases but they are available. Some siding manufacturer even offer them to match their colors from what I've seen in around the country working with contractors. It's also industry appropriate to paint them. There are proper ways to do it with no issues. There are also different designs that eliminate the concern of using and opening. Just an overlooked detail from the contractor, commission, city, designer or any combination of them. 

Even if they just got them in black they would blend in so much better. I had barely noticed them but now they seem to stand out like sore thumbs!!! It looks like somebody threw a bunch of snowballs at it and they plastered themselves onto the building.

Dammit I can't unsee them either now and the building is ruined for me lol.

Edited December 24, 20195 yr by Toddguy

Can we start calling this building The View of Laundry Vents? 

Other than the vents, this building isn't even bad. But like you all, I can't unsee them now that it's been pointed out and the building looks like it has a disease, lol.

On 10/4/2018 at 10:34 AM, ColDayMan said:

29-unit apartment building proposed on North High Street

 

 

The latest mixed-use project along North High Street would bring more rental units to the University District north of campus.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/10/04/29-unit-apartment-building-proposed-on-north-high.html

Drove by this today, the old carry out building has been demolished. Can’t wait to see this get going. 

^The two story brick office building at High and Tompkins is demolished.

I took a picture yesterday! Was in Old North. I'm not there very often but I took this picture thinking of you guys : D

 

48 minutes ago, Zyrokai said:

I took a picture yesterday! Was in Old North. I'm not there very often but I took this picture thinking of you guys : D

 

Cannot wait to see this progress. Hopefully it starts more projects in the area. 

Hello Clevelander here, looking through these threads I have a question. Does the city of Columbus have parking requirements for its new buildings? Looking at these buildings they are built to the street but I don't see any parking with them. Is the parking underground? 

12 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said:

Hello Clevelander here, looking through these threads I have a question. Does the city of Columbus have parking requirements for its new buildings? Looking at these buildings they are built to the street but I don't see any parking with them. Is the parking underground? 

 

The only place without requirements is downtown. The other neighborhoods have them, although they are granted some sort of variance in many cases, though rarely entirely eliminated. 

 

For the most part, they are built with alley access and usually partially underground. For larger projects, they are often in the center of the block and nearly fully wrapped with the residential or commercial use. Other than the city garage and future Scioto Peninsula garage, I cant think of a garage on a main thoroughfare or business corridor that was exposed. 

 

I will say that *generally* over the last few years, developers have done well to hide parking infrastructure so they are not obvious from main streets. For this particular project, the parking is between the orange and blue buildings and I believe a surface lot off the alley. 

Edited February 7, 20205 yr by DTCL11

3 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

 

The only place without requirements is downtown. The other neighborhoods have them, although they are granted some sort of variance in many cases, though rarely entirely eliminated. 

 

For the most part, they are built with alley access and usually partially underground. For larger projects, they are often in the center of the block and nearly fully wrapped with the residential or commercial use. Other than the city garage and future Scioto Peninsula garage, I cant think of a garage on a main thoroughfare or business corridor that was exposed. 

 

I will say that *generally* over the last few years, developers have done well to hide parking infrastructure so they are not obvious from main streets. For this particular project, the parking is between the orange and blue buildings and I believe a surface lot off the alley. 

Okay understood! Thank you for the explanation I am a major fan of how Columbus is building its new developments and also the materials chosen. It seems most of them are brick or mimick the surrounding buildings to blend well, very timeless designs. 

My morning solo run took me through north campus. A couple of updates. 
 

Foundation work has started at Wilcox and High - that’s High in the background. This should be an interesting project. 

 

 

Restoration work is underway at the old school on Neil at Hudson. The newer addition has been separated from the main building. 
 

 

Columns are up at Wilcox and High. Should see the elevated slab pretty soon. 
 

 

^The elevated slab is complete, should see the stick built upper floors soon. This project is really going to change the feel of High St. in north campus. 
 

 

 

Edited September 8, 20204 yr by Pablo

Here’s the infill 2-story on Wilcox and Pearl

 

 

11 hours ago, Pablo said:

^The elevated slab is complete, should see the stick built upper floors soon. This project is really going to change the feel of High St. in north campus. 
 

 

 

Thank you, been meaning to take pictures of this. This project will hopefully bring some more development to that area. That stretch of high street is pretty bad. 

The High/Wilcox project has reached full height. 
 

 

11 hours ago, Pablo said:

The High/Wilcox project has reached full height. 
 

 

This building stands out in a great way. I was driving south on high the other day and it looks bigger than 4 stories. Hopefully this is the beginning of some more building in this area. 

^^ I agree this area has so much potential it is crazy. How is this area Nimbywise? I know this was an independent town/suburb at one point, it has such a "big" feel compared to the areas above and below it on High. It seems like a natural "node" of higher density development-if the residents will allow it that is.

 

*Plus Hounddog pizza and a Rally's! lol. 

Edited October 3, 20204 yr by Toddguy

1 hour ago, Toddguy said:

^^ I agree this area has so much potential it is crazy. How is this area Nimbywise? I know this was an independent town/suburb at one point, it has such a "big" feel compared to the areas above and below it on High. It seems like a natural "node" of higher density development-if the residents will allow it that is.

 

*Plus Hounddog pizza and a Rally's! lol. 

No idea, but if there are 2 or more older residents, nothing will get built that has any height, and I’m sure they will fight against anything. 

It feels great. The height is definitely appropriate. I look forward to more coming. 

 

My sim city fantasy is still a garage behind hound dogs with a big apartment building back there. Townhouses lining them. Everything from Hudson to Dodridge old school brick and traditional. Build up and set back off the original structures for some additional density if able. Wider sidewalks. Tree lined. String lights or lit arches for that couple blocks. Then no rules for the old strip malls, CVS, goodwill, gas stations, etc. Tear 'em out and start over. 

Edited October 3, 20204 yr by DTCL11

9 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

It feels great. The height is definitely appropriate. I look forward to more coming. 

 

My sim city fantasy is still a garage behind hound dogs with a big apartment building back there. Townhouses lining them. Everything from Hudson to Dodridge old school brick and traditional. Build up and set back off the original structures for some additional density if able. Wider sidewalks. Tree lined. String lights or lit arches for that couple blocks. Then no rules for the old strip malls, CVS, goodwill, gas stations, etc. Tear 'em out and start over. 

Sounds good-but they need to incorporate a Rally's and a Taco Bell in some of those buildings like they did in the SN. Rally's greasy seasoned fries are some of the best fast food-bad for you-but you don't care stuff around.

 

And I have thought the exact same thing about the area behind Hounddogs. A garage big enough to service several nearby buildings and doing the same on some parcel on the other side of the street.  Stick another one right across the street against the alley and another one farther down-there are a number of whole blocks along High that have nothing historical at all. Even at my old age I would love to live in that area if this happened. I can't imagine they would have a lack of interested tenants.  There is just so. much. potential!

23 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

No idea, but if there are 2 or more older residents, nothing will get built that has any height, and I’m sure they will fight against anything. 

 

But if you want to put in a used car lot that's OK.

20 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

 

But if you want to put in a used car lot that's OK.

Are you talking about the Weber and high lot, that just sold? 

That, but also in general.

Just now, GCrites80s said:

That, but also in general.

I was hoping it was a restaurant at least. I already knew it wasn’t going to be a building. Also, old north is more building friendly than Clintonville, so at least there is hope for more buildings in the old north area, with some decent height. 

Dang just rereading this thread we all talked about this same stuff ten years ago. And the same potential is there and unrealized ten years later in a city adding so many people. 

 

If we could get some more density nodes along high like here in Olde North Columbus we could really make the "High Five" more of a reality and maybe actually get some kind of streetcar or something along that five mile stretch? The more density or dense nodes along that path, the better it would be for something like that. 

Edited October 3, 20204 yr by Toddguy

I just went through Old North Columbus yesterday for the first time in a while. I actually am temporarily living outside of Columbus so it's probably been a year almost since I have. I was going North on HIgh and man......once you go under the arch out of Old North, it looks pretty gross. Clintonville is kinda gross, lol. It was pretty instant, too. Like it all of the sudden because a typical suburban commercial road.

 

Edit: This isn't meant to bring the focus to Clintonville, but I basically had to make a choice on which thread to post this in, lol. It was just something that really stood out to me over the weekend. I really am liking the new stuff in Old North.

Edited October 5, 20204 yr by Zyrokai

1 hour ago, Zyrokai said:

I just went through Old North Columbus yesterday for the first time in a while. I actually am temporarily living outside of Columbus so it's probably been a year almost since I have. I was going North on HIgh and man......once you go under the arch out of Old North, it looks pretty gross. Clintonville is kinda gross, lol. It was pretty instant, too. Like it all of the sudden because a typical suburban commercial road.

 

Edit: This isn't meant to bring the focus to Clintonville, but I basically had to make a choice on which thread to post this in, lol. It was just something that really stood out to me over the weekend. I really am liking the new stuff in Old North.

Yeah, Clintonville is garbage for high st development. It’s pretty sad, because that stretch could be great. 

One of the other often missed elements of old north is that many of the original buildings are not just the old brick boxes. Many have an added ornateness that might rival some of the best pre-war buildings in the city. This is why I believe more strongly in preservation and historically appropriate development in that 4 block stretch more than other places in the city. It would create something very unique for a hub. (And show Clintonville how to do it right ? ) 

Clintonville's part of High Street is a dumpster fire of suburbia.  And that's just how they want it.