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An Indigo makes perfect sense here, their new build ones are decent probably on the higher end of the Hampton(my preferred, I’m about a 150/night per year person) spectrum. I’ve stayed in a couple of them over the years and they’ve been fine.
 

Just looking at their(Indigos) portfolio they have several that are labeled with the near by university. There are too many Holiday Inn’s close and Hampton wouldn’t move that close either. I also am not sure the city would allow a “budget” brand in this area.

 

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^I can hear the Clintonville Discussion Forum on FB now - "prostitution and drug sales"

14 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

 

Perhaps. IPD doesn't have any Indigos in their portfolio so it would be their first. I stay in hotels as much as 200+ nights a year including a few Indigos and they're great. Although all the Indigos I have stayed in were entirely converted suburban hotels. I haven't stayed in any new build Indigos.  Again, I'm not knocking brand per se. I stay in quite a few Hamptons, good, bad, and ugly, and there are amazing Holiday Inns out there too. For me, it really comes down the portfolio of IPD. And it doesn't look great.  Their portfolio appears to be entirely suburban. I hope this is their attempt to do something different but my hopes are not high.

 

At best I think we end up with a hotel that may front High Street but still has too much surface parking, too many curb cuts, and we will be lucky if it has any public amenities such as a restaurant, bar, coffee shop etc. I think the location and community deserve more than a single use, car focused development and maybe, just maybe, IPD wants to use this location as their segway into more urban designs and properties.

Like I said, I'll pray to any entity out there for a good development, especially if it helps bring more, but I don't love the initial signs. They paid a pretty penny for that lot so here's hoping that it will force them to invest more into a better development for a better ROI. Borror more than tripled their investment by doing nothing for 5 years lol.

 

Edit: I wonder if anyone detailed the University Review Board and Clintonville Commission split to them... If not, they could be in for more than they expected lol  Eight Stories south of the creek with 2 or 3 levels of parking deck north of it sounds good to me.

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If not, they could be in for more than they expected lol  Eight Stories south of the creek with 2 or 3 levels of parking deck north of it sounds good to me.

LOL! Make it ten floors with a giant sign on top. 

I won't be happy unless we can see it from North Broadway so we can REALLY make an impact, let's go for 12 stories!  But I do wonder what it would take to accomplish that. 🤔 

 

 

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Wasn't entirely sure where this goes either. Not quite Old North. Not Quite South Linden. Not quite fairgrounds or Crew. So close enough I suppose. 

 

Moo Moo is joining the ever expanding suburban campus north of the Crew Stadium... further dashing any hopes such prime real estate can be salvaged for something better. 

 

And there is nothing more that Hudson and Silver Needs than the cluster that comes with a Moo Moo at such a dangerous section for road for pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers to begin with. 

 

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33 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

Wasn't entirely sure where this goes either. Not quite Old North. Not Quite South Linden. Not quite fairgrounds or Crew. So close enough I suppose. 

 

Moo Moo is joining the ever expanding suburban campus north of the Crew Stadium... further dashing any hopes such prime real estate can be salvaged for something better. 

 

And there is nothing more that Hudson and Silver Needs than the cluster that comes with a Moo Moo at such a dangerous section for road for pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers to begin with. 

 

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Yeah, that will absolutely be a sh*t show. 

5 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Yeah, that will absolutely be a sh*t show. 

 

Does Moo Moo intentionally select the most terrible locations possible?  It won't be the worst but still terrible. 

 

Honestly, at this point, it's time to accept the fate of the NOCS (North of Crew Stadium?) and go all the way with a Sheetz, maybe a Starbucks and replace the Frischs with an Applebee's. 

 

I'm sure more will follow if the soccer campus gets built. Plus the plan for the area to the east of 71 is 'big box retail' according to the last city concept for the Hudson Corridor *eye roll*  

2 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

 

Does Moo Moo intentionally select the most terrible locations possible?  It won't be the worst but still terrible. 

 

Honestly, at this point, it's time to accept the fate of the NOCS (North of Crew Stadium?) and go all the way with a Sheetz, maybe a Starbucks and replace the Frischs with an Applebee's. 

 

I'm sure more will follow if the soccer campus gets built. Plus the plan for the area to the east of 71 is 'big box retail' according to the last city concept for the Hudson Corridor *eye roll*  

It sounds like from an urban development standpoint, this area needs to be largely written off. Maybe the focus should be on just a few things, like better bike and pedestrian access and safety? Health and safety issues should get the highest priority if the rest is just a total sh*t show-and it sounds like that is the case here. Some areas just can't be saved for a number of reasons. 

Meh, it's next to a Lowe's (and not even a nice one), a National Tire and Battery, an abandoned Big Boy, nondescript window less buildings, sandwiched between railroad tracks and a really kind of odd/confusing highway on ramp. In that context a car wash seems like a win. 

5 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

I'm sure more will follow if the soccer campus gets built. Plus the plan for the area to the east of 71 is 'big box retail' according to the last city concept for the Hudson Corridor *eye roll*  

I'd have to say a car wash or gas station is probably the best you would get there. Hopefully MooMoo provides plenty of stacking. Since I live nearby, I'll probably get my car washed there.

 

Historically speaking, big box retail is appropriate if you consider the 60s and 70s a historic era. 😅 This large building was an Ontario department store and grocery in the 60s and 70s. Kind of a regional Walmart. I remember shopping there with my mom. One day in the mid 70's, we watched the deli clerk somehow lop off his finger. My mom abandoned our shopping cart and we walked out of the store. We never went back. Eventually, a lot of Ontario stores became Rinks Department Stores.

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From an overall land use perspective, it is what it is. I get it. What else can we expect without someone kicking but and taking names. But choosing that location sucks. Unless the city is planning on doing a full redo of that intersection. 

 

Getting in and out for Lowes or Aldi is a train wreck as is. If you arent almost getting t-boned, are you even doing it right? (If its super busy, ill go out of my way through the Ohio History Center to avoid it) Adding some sort of ingress and egress there will make it even worse. If they had taken the Big Boy spot it would have been better but this plot is legitimately the worst possible choice in the NOCS. Which again, does Moo Moo choose locations based on how much more of a nightmare scenario it can make the local traffic?

 

Edit. And FTR, I'm sticking with NOCS to describe this no man's land. Lol   

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6 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

 

Does Moo Moo intentionally select the most terrible locations possible?  It won't be the worst but still terrible. 

 

Honestly, at this point, it's time to accept the fate of the NOCS (North of Crew Stadium?) and go all the way with a Sheetz, maybe a Starbucks and replace the Frischs with an Applebee's. 

 

I'm sure more will follow if the soccer campus gets built. Plus the plan for the area to the east of 71 is 'big box retail' according to the last city concept for the Hudson Corridor *eye roll*  

The Moo Moo on West Henderson in Upper Arlington has signs out on the road now saying "DO NOT WAIT FOR THE CAR WASH IN THE STREET, YOU WILL BE TICKETED" so clearly it's an issue that people have complained about. Now only if they would start ticketing the people blocking the roads waiting in line at literally every Starbucks in the city...

13 minutes ago, TIm said:

The Moo Moo on West Henderson in Upper Arlington has signs out on the road now saying "DO NOT WAIT FOR THE CAR WASH IN THE STREET, YOU WILL BE TICKETED" so clearly it's an issue that people have complained about. Now only if they would start ticketing the people blocking the roads waiting in line at literally every Starbucks in the city...

The one in Grandview just needs removed period, in literally the worst spot.

 

I will say across 71 needs a grocery store whether it be Kroger or GE. This is a food desert until you get to Morse. Yes there is an Aldi and IGA but really nothing else but corner stores.

1 hour ago, DTCL11 said:

From an overall land use perspective, it is what it is. I get it. What else can we expect without someone kicking but and taking names. But choosing that location sucks. Unless the city is planning on doing a full redo of that intersection. 

 

Getting in and out for Lowes or Aldi is a train wreck as is. If you arent almost getting t-boned, are you even doing it right? (If its super busy, ill go out of my way through the Ohio History Center to avoid it) Adding some sort of ingress and egress there will make it even worse. If they had taken the Big Boy spot it would have been better but this plot is legitimately the worst possible choice in the NOCS. Which again, does Moo Moo choose locations based on how much more of a nightmare scenario it can make the local traffic?

 

Edit. And FTR, I'm sticking with NOCS to describe this no man's land. Lol   

 

 I leave Lowes via the driveway by Crew Stadium.

9 minutes ago, Pablo said:

 I leave Lowes via the driveway by Crew Stadium.

This! It's the only reasonable way in and out of the Lowe's. That winding little driveway that the Aldi and NTB connect into is a mess 

This is their approved site plan. North is to the LEFT. Looks like they'll have a lot of room for cars in line.

 

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2 hours ago, .justin said:

This is their approved site plan. North is to the LEFT. Looks like they'll have a lot of room for cars in line.

 

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Oh nice, that is the best spot for the entrance also. I figured they would put it along silver so it’s good to see it’s not. 

  • 3 weeks later...
On 3/29/2022 at 10:38 PM, DTCL11 said:

Looks like the Patrick J's site JUST sold.

 

The company is Stark Capital Ventures, LLC. Does not appear related to Stark Enterprises out of Cleveland (re NuCLEus).

 

I followed the rabbit hole and I hope 2+2 does not equal 4.

 

The Stark Ventures LLC is new with the sale. The business mailing address is the Holiday Inn on Olentangy River Road. That property belongs to JAP GURU LLC. The business mailing address for the Holiday Inn Property is a Hampton Inn on S Hamilton Road owned by Columbus Hotel Investment Group LLC out of Georgia, whose address belongs to IPD Hospitality.

 

https://www.ipdhospitality.com/

 

IPD Hospitality specializes in management, construction, and design of the following hotel brands: Hampton Inn, Sleep Inn, Holiday Inn, Super 8, Comfort Inn, Comfort Suites, Quality Inn, and Best Westerns.

 

So folks, looks like the intersection of Arcadia and High may be the home of Columbus's next premier budget hotel.

 

For the love of god, I hope this is wrong and maybe they want to venture into something else, but if the tea leaves are accurate, I just... can't.... I'll be praying to all that is holy that maybe it is something better than that. Perhaps I'm being a bit dramatic... maybe they'll make it a nice hotel like the Hampton Inn Convention Center? maybe....? Dont get me wrong, there are nice examples of these hotels, I'm just not expecting it at this location from the IPD group based on their portfolio. I'm not seeing much in the way of great urban hotel design. 

 

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Just notice a new sign on the site

 

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Living and retail > than hotel 

 

Stark Superhero-esque logo > Borror crest 

 

Well, I'm glad to see that Stark appears to be choosing the site to expand their portfolio from hotel. 🙌

 

Now we wait... 

Can anyone make out the website associated with the email address on the bottom of the sign? possibly  sentinelhotels.com??

Sintel Hotels

 

The phone number matches the Holiday Inn on ORR.

 

The properties and inventory listed are consistent with what I found earlier. 

 

They also say they have some retail locations. They ambiguously highlight some retail near Polaris and have a list of retail partners. So I assume they are the owners of those buildings. 

 

 

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I figured it out. It's not super hero. It's Warner Brothers. And with 'Stark World'..... I'm getting some Animaniacs vibes. 

5 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

Living and retail > than hotel 

 

Stark Superhero-esque logo > Borror crest 

 

Well, I'm glad to see that Stark appears to be choosing the site to expand their portfolio from hotel. 🙌

 

Now we wait... 

it will be interesting to see if they do something similar to the Borror project that was planned. It would be great if they could do something on the Clintonville side, instead of just a parking lot. 

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  • 4 weeks later...

Initial renderings for the old Patrick J's sight are going to the University commission this month. It would appear it is going to be 6 stories with some commercial on the north section. They look to be leaving the parking lot in the clintonville area as well. Hopefully the actual design looks decent, this is pretty bland, but 6 stories isn't horrible in this area. The parking behind it is also pretty dumb and would rather see a first floor garage. 

 

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1 hour ago, VintageLife said:

Initial renderings for the old Patrick J's sight are going to the University commission this month. It would appear it is going to be 6 stories with some commercial on the north section. They look to be leaving the parking lot in the clintonville area as well. Hopefully the actual design looks decent, this is pretty bland, but 6 stories isn't horrible in this area. The parking behind it is also pretty dumb and would rather see a first floor garage. 

 

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I wonder if the surface lots would be for the potential commercial tenant. Agreed that a first floor garage would be more practical and more aesthetic, but given Clintonville's penchant for low density, car-oriented development, my expectations are not high. 

1 hour ago, CMHOhio said:

I wonder if the surface lots would be for the potential commercial tenant. Agreed that a first floor garage would be more practical and more aesthetic, but given Clintonville's penchant for low density, car-oriented development, my expectations are not high. 

I understand why they aren’t touching the Clintonville side. I was more referring to the parking that will be up against the trees. Seems the building would be better to take all the way back to the trees.

5 hours ago, VintageLife said:

I understand why they aren’t touching the Clintonville side. I was more referring to the parking that will be up against the trees. Seems the building would be better to take all the way back to the trees.

Likewise. I should've been more specific that the parking up against the trees would be for the commercial tenant while the Clintonville side lot would be for residents. In a perfect world, neither would exist, lol. 

  • 3 weeks later...
On 5/23/2022 at 7:54 PM, ColDayMan said:

University District: New Proposals Submitted for Two Sites on High Street

 

New proposals for two prominent sites on High Street will be presented to the University Impact District Review Board this week.

 

At the corner of High and North Street, a new owner of the long-vacant site that once held Patrick J’s bar and a White Castle restaurant wants to build a six-story building on the property. A previous plan for the site, from Borror Properties, called for a three-story, 56-unit apartment building with first floor retail. That plan was approved in 2018 but never built, and the site was later put up for sale.

 

A company called Stark Capital Ventures LLC, which is connected to the Columbus-based hotel and retail specialist Sintel Properties, bought the parcel in March for $1.95 million, according to Franklin County Auditor records. The new plan calls for an 80-unit building featuring five floors of apartments over first-floor commercial and amenity space. A parking lot with room for about 70 cars would sit behind the building and to its north, in the Clintonville portion of the site (the southern portion sits in Old North Columbus).

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/university-district-new-proposals-submitted-for-two-sites-on-high-street-bw1/

 

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A few more details on the Patrick J’s dev, from CBF:

 

Former Patrick J's site could house mixed-use development including extended-stay hotel
 

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“Sintel Properties wants to build a 100,000-square-foot, six-story building on the border of the University District and Clintonville at 2711 N. High St., a site previously home to Patrick J's Bar and a White Castle.

 

Manav Singh of Sintel said the project would include retail and residential space along with a boutique extended-stay hotel.

 

Sintel Properties' proposal, which has preliminary approval from the University Impact District Review Board, includes 7,000 square feet of retail space, 80 apartments and a boutique hotel. 
 

Singh said the developer hopes to get three or four retailers, including a high-end eatery, upscale limited edition clothing store and a coffee shop.”

 

The plan is to break ground next fall, if the project is approved. 
 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/06/10/patrick-js-university-district-clintonville-plans.html

21 minutes ago, amped91 said:

A few more details on the Patrick J’s dev, from CBF:

 

Former Patrick J's site could house mixed-use development including extended-stay hotel
 

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“Sintel Properties wants to build a 100,000-square-foot, six-story building on the border of the University District and Clintonville at 2711 N. High St., a site previously home to Patrick J's Bar and a White Castle.

 

Manav Singh of Sintel said the project would include retail and residential space along with a boutique extended-stay hotel.

 

Sintel Properties' proposal, which has preliminary approval from the University Impact District Review Board, includes 7,000 square feet of retail space, 80 apartments and a boutique hotel. 
 

Singh said the developer hopes to get three or four retailers, including a high-end eatery, upscale limited edition clothing store and a coffee shop.”

 

The plan is to break ground next fall, if the project is approved. 
 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/06/10/patrick-js-university-district-clintonville-plans.html

The building footprint plus being 6 floors makes it difficult to see how they get 80 apts. plus a hotel plus 3/4 retail places. I am glad they are doing it though and making it really mixed use. Let the building begin!

 

*I guess having the parking outside of that footprint helps.

On 6/8/2022 at 10:31 AM, VintageLife said:

They are just going to do a sh*tty 6 story at the corner and leave the historic part alone. 

You are probably right but maybe there is still some hope that the commission might suggest a few more floors to the 17 floor tower version in exchange for leaving the two row house sections and adding the retail north of them? We can still hope the commission gets it's head out of it's a$$ and does the right thing for the site.  I hope that they have not f#$%ed around and found out just to lose it all(rowhomes included) and get that big ugly block of a building. 

 

WHY! don't they ever learn? smh

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It's still so wild/insane that Clintonville is so unwilling to negotiate on this.

 

If I had to guess, this building is likely taller than it would be if they could build uniform on the whole lot. Clintonville would've ended up with something WAY more in line with their preferences but instead they get a parking lot and a 6 story building literally at the property line. Man, that commission really stuck it to the developer huh. Smh

A couple of thoughts on what fills the space. 

 

  - Wouldn't it be neat if the tie-dye guy took the clothing retail spot 😅

  - With the booming businesses that are Sahara Cafe and MozMoz, I wonder if the food and high end clothing retail would be attractive or actively recruited to Arabic/Mediterranean/African proprietors. I would definitely not argue with a nice restaurant along those lines. 

  - This corner could become a little pocket cultural hub 

 

And yes, I mean Booming. Once MozMoz transitioned to a hookah establishment, the already busy corner from Sahara's business is packed with cars and patrons many nights of the week. 

  • 2 weeks later...
On 5/21/2022 at 12:46 PM, VintageLife said:

Initial renderings for the old Patrick J's sight are going to the University commission this month. It would appear it is going to be 6 stories with some commercial on the north section. They look to be leaving the parking lot in the clintonville area as well. Hopefully the actual design looks decent, this is pretty bland, but 6 stories isn't horrible in this area. The parking behind it is also pretty dumb and would rather see a first floor garage. 

 

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Looked at the meeting minutes for the month of May and the board was supportive of the height for this build. They also ask for some better street interaction and wanted to see if there was any thing that could connect it to the olentangy river. 

11 hours ago, VintageLife said:

Looked at the meeting minutes for the month of May and the board was supportive of the height for this build. They also ask for some better street interaction and wanted to see if there was any thing that could connect it to the olentangy river. 

Olentangy Village owns all the land between this site and the river - I doubt they would allow access. 

  • 1 month later...

The project at 2711 N High is back this month and has new renderings. I like this version more. I really dislike the cut out building design that is everywhere right now. 

 

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17 hours ago, VintageLife said:

The project at 2711 N High is back this month and has new renderings. I like this version more. I really dislike the cut out building design that is everywhere right now. 

 

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I just hope that this is successful and shows people that building tall and increasing density along High Street in the Old North and more so up into Clintonville is nothing but a good idea. This is supposed to be a nice area but all I see is poorly utilized space and waaaaay too many ugly overhead power lines.

Six-Story Building Proposed for Vacant High Street Site

 

A new plan to develop the long-vacant site that once held Patrick J’s bar and a White Castle restaurant will be heard by the University Impact District Review Board this week.

 

The proposal – which calls for a six-story, 80-unit building with ground floor retail – was first presented to the board in May. At that meeting, no detailed design was presented but commissioners said that they were generally supportive of the proposed density and height of the project.

 

Located at 2711 N. High St., the 1.2-acre site was bought by Stark Capital Ventures LLC in March. A previous plan for the site, from Borror Properties, called for a three-story, 56-unit apartment building with first floor retail. That plan was approved in 2018 but never built, and the site was later put up for sale.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/six-story-building-proposed-for-vacant-high-street-site-bw1/

 

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17 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

Six-Story Building Proposed for Vacant High Street Site

 

A new plan to develop the long-vacant site that once held Patrick J’s bar and a White Castle restaurant will be heard by the University Impact District Review Board this week.

 

The proposal – which calls for a six-story, 80-unit building with ground floor retail – was first presented to the board in May. At that meeting, no detailed design was presented but commissioners said that they were generally supportive of the proposed density and height of the project.

 

Located at 2711 N. High St., the 1.2-acre site was bought by Stark Capital Ventures LLC in March. A previous plan for the site, from Borror Properties, called for a three-story, 56-unit apartment building with first floor retail. That plan was approved in 2018 but never built, and the site was later put up for sale.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/six-story-building-proposed-for-vacant-high-street-site-bw1/

 

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I absolutely love how this pushes right up against the Clintonville line and all the complainers who live in the neighborhood can't do anything about it since it's in Old North technically. I just want one of these things to get built so people can see it's a good idea and set precedent for more height and density along the High St. corridor through the UD, into Old North and through some of Clintonville.

37 minutes ago, TIm said:

I absolutely love how this pushes right up against the Clintonville line and all the complainers who live in the neighborhood can't do anything about it since it's in Old North technically. I just want one of these things to get built so people can see it's a good idea and set precedent for more height and density along the High St. corridor through the UD, into Old North and through some of Clintonville.

I’m fine with clintonville only allowing 3-4 story buildings, if that’s what want. Make sure it has retail/restaurant on the first floor, and that they stop complaining about them not having enough parking. Even 3-4 with an occasional 5 story would look great in clintonville

Sintel Properties moves forward with mixed-use development on North High, near OSU, Clintonville

 

The mixed-use project slated for the former home of Patrick J's Bar and a White Castle is moving forward.

 

Sintel Properties wants to build a 100,000-square-foot, six-story building on the border of the University District and Clintonville at 2711 N. High St. Manav Singh of Sintel Properties said the project would include retail and residential space along with a boutique extended-stay hotel.

 

Singh showed conceptual plans for the project to the University Impact District Review Board last week. He plans to return to the commission at the next meeting in September for design approval.

 

Singh said the development will have a deep red or scarlet brick and grey industrial-looking siding, a nod to nearby Ohio State University.

 

"When you're driving down High Street, we want to create something that makes people think 'Wow, this is where Ohio State starts,'" he said.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/08/30/patrick-js-white-castle-north-high-apartment-hotel.html

 

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I think the only thing I disagree with is the idea that Aradia and High is the place to say, 'Wow, this is where Ohio State Starts'.  Lolol. 

5 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

I think the only thing I disagree with is the idea that Aradia and High is the place to say, 'Wow, this is where Ohio State Starts'.  Lolol. 

A lot of people park up that way for games because it’s free and easy to leave. But that being said despite being far up that way many of those bars still attract students and some live there and beyond.

6 minutes ago, wpcc88 said:

A lot of people park up that way for games because it’s free and easy to leave. But that being said despite being far up that way many of those bars still attract students and some live there and beyond.

 

For me, it's about High and Arcadia doesn't need to be some entrance to campus or identifiable as such. Whatever the implications of parking and clientele and living among students and my neighbors here in Old North, I don't need it to scream OSU. I'd rather Old North just keep its own identity than developer feel a need to tie it completely to OSU. 

 

It's fluff language to sell the hotel to visitors more than anything knowing they are in a weird spot so overcompensating to try to sell a luxury hotel in that location to OSU visitors etc 

On 8/30/2022 at 10:59 AM, DTCL11 said:

I think the only thing I disagree with is the idea that Aradia and High is the place to say, 'Wow, this is where Ohio State Starts'.  Lolol. 

I have to disagree. Believe it or not, there's a huge amount of students that live in that area and commute down to campus everyday. Plus, the bars along High in that part of Old North are pretty popular with OSU students. It's definitely kind of a gateway to the campus area. I do wonder who the apartments in this development will cater to most though. It seems way too far north for students to justify spending "luxury" apartment costs at. 

 

I live here. I'm very aware of the demographics of my neighbors over the last 8 years and my drinking companions and locations lol.  That doesn't mean that ubiquitous 'this is campus' scarlet and gray everything should start here. The people who frequent Old North and it's establishments are generally different from your standard campus bar and nightlife anyway. Almost counterculture.  My hope has always been that Old North would be able to maintain its own feel and identity with growth. Yes, it's the University District. No, it's not where Ohio State starts. But I suppose that's a hard opinion to take when it comes to state collegiate identities. I think the same thing about alot of things that are tied to collegiate athletics 

I personally used to go to Miani's(Ace of Cups) and Ledo’s back in the day. It was before you moved to that area by a few years. But you’re right, not as popular with students as it used to be and nobody is saying that it’s campus. But that’s not to say many don’t consider Arcadia, Doddridge or Hudson and south to be “campus.”

3 minutes ago, wpcc88 said:

 and nobody is saying that it’s campus.

 

Except the developer... "When you're driving down High Street, we want to create something that makes people think 'Wow, this is where Ohio State starts,'" he said.

 

Which brings me to what we are agreeing on. It's not campus. I agree with the development except I roll my eyes at their statement. 

15 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

I live here. I'm very aware of the demographics of my neighbors over the last 8 years and my drinking companions and locations lol.  That doesn't mean that ubiquitous 'this is campus' scarlet and gray everything should start here. The people who frequent Old North and it's establishments are generally different from your standard campus bar and nightlife anyway. Almost counterculture.  My hope has always been that Old North would be able to maintain its own feel and identity with growth. Yes, it's the University District. No, it's not where Ohio State starts. But I suppose that's a hard opinion to take when it comes to state collegiate identities. I think the same thing about alot of things that are tied to collegiate athletics 

Could not agree more. I live not too far north of this intersection and it is absolutely not where OSU starts. It is where you start to see the influence from OSU, but Old North has its' own thing going on.

It's just marketing speak. Realtors stretch neighborhood boundaries all the time.

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