June 22, 20213 yr On 6/20/2021 at 9:08 PM, KJP said: Warehouse District, looking east on St. Clair Avenue from West 9th in 1986. That building with Maxwells on it- did it have a huge fire take it down back then?
June 22, 20213 yr Maxwell's was a bar music club in the basement of that building. Yes, it did burn down in a fire.....but don't recall the year.
July 1, 20213 yr Great comparison gathered by Michael Collier from DCA showing the east side of the intersection of East 9th/Erie Street, Huron and Prospect in 1890, 1917 and today. The difference from 1890 to 1917, just 27 years, is something to behold....... 1890 1917 Today "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 2, 20213 yr On 8/16/2020 at 6:16 AM, JohnSummit said: While we all wait for the next construction crane to show up downtown, here's some visual highlights of the golden decade ('82-'92) of tall building construction in Cleveland. Was there any another 10 year period that saw the skyline change so much: Medical Mutual, Ohio Bell, Eaton, Sohio, North Point, Tower City, Society + Marriott, Bank One? I used to go downtown on Saturdays during this period to witness and record some of the big changes underway with a vague sense that someday in the future it might be interesting to look back at. I wasn't there to capture all of them, but I did get most of the big ones. Great collection. I used to transfer downtown on the way to Case while Sohio was going up and saw the progress at an almost daily rate. In an ironic foreshadow of my later job, I used to walk a friend (later girlfriend) past the site after one of the construction workers shall we say took a shine to her (different world, then). So those pics brought back something I hadn't thought about in many years.
July 7, 20213 yr Hilliard Building is the sole survivor of the day when West 9th was the heart of Cleveland's business district -- just uphill from the Ohio Canal, first lakefront docks, new (1864) Cleveland Union Station, and the new Erie RR Depot.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 9, 20213 yr Flats East Bank, 1999 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 9, 20213 yr More waterfront. My dad remembered the Exposition very well.... Dad, part II: he was a fundraiser working for Ray Shepardson in the 1970s... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 11, 20213 yr On 7/9/2021 at 7:51 AM, KJP said: Flats East Bank, 1999 This looks a lot more cool than the current iteration. It looks just so organic and active.
July 11, 20213 yr On 6/30/2021 at 11:59 PM, KJP said: Great comparison gathered by Michael Collier from DCA showing the east side of the intersection of East 9th/Erie Street, Huron and Prospect in 1890, 1917 and today. The difference from 1890 to 1917, just 27 years, is something to behold....... 1890 1917 Today How did we even maintain the "Forest City" nickname in the early 1900s lol. There are NO TREES!
July 11, 20213 yr On 5/23/2021 at 7:43 AM, MuRrAy HiLL said: This reminds me of my favorite D3 football pic of all time.
July 12, 20213 yr Sheriff's Street Market, roughly where the L-shaped parking deck for Gateway is now.. The first photo is from 1902. The second is from the 1920s, shortly before it was badly damaged in a 1930 fire. The south tower was retained and converted for use as the new Central Market in 1950. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 12, 20213 yr I firmly believe that if this building wasn't so badly damaged in a fire, it would still be standing today. These are the types of buildings that not even a new baseball stadium can easily remove
July 13, 20213 yr On 7/11/2021 at 12:47 PM, YABO713 said: This reminds me of my favorite D3 football pic of all time. Cleveland old "Big Four" college football matchups! :) Found some neat history: 1) Baldwin Wallace's "Aerial Circus" teams from 1934-1937: https://www.secsportsfan.com/support-files/may-2013-college-football-historian.pdf 2) Attached is the actual newspaper from this game 3) Western Reserve's Ray Zeh lead college football in scoring in 1935 (year when this photo was taken). Baldwin Wallace's Norm Schoen lead college football in scoring in 1936! Scroll to the bottom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_major_college_football_yearly_scoring_leaders Edited July 13, 20213 yr by MuRrAy HiLL
July 13, 20213 yr 15 hours ago, MuRrAy HiLL said: Cleveland old "Big Four" college football matchups! :) Found some neat history: 1) Baldwin Wallace's "Aerial Circus" teams from 1934-1937: https://www.secsportsfan.com/support-files/may-2013-college-football-historian.pdf 2) Attached is the actual newspaper from this game 3) Western Reserve's Ray Zeh lead college football in scoring in 1935 (year when this photo was taken). Baldwin Wallace's Norm Schoen lead college football in scoring in 1936! Scroll to the bottom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_major_college_football_yearly_scoring_leaders I love that Cleveland had a "BIG 4" in football schools back then, as cited by the paper. I assume that was Case, BW, JCU, and WR?
July 13, 20213 yr I believe that for a year or so after Case and WR merged (in 1967), they fielded separate football teams.
July 14, 20213 yr 8 hours ago, YABO713 said: I love that Cleveland had a "BIG 4" in football schools back then, as cited by the paper. I assume that was Case, BW, JCU, and WR? You are correct. If you search the Plain Dealer archives, you’ll find plenty of references to the “Big Four” Cleveland football teams from roughly 1933-1942. WWII and the start of the Browns in 1946 essentially ended Cleveland’s college football era. Most notable college football team from Cleveland was probably the 1940 Western Reserve team, who won a bowl game over Arizona State, led by running back Steve Belichick (Yep, Bill’s dad) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_Western_Reserve_Red_Cats_football_team Side note, found this on eBay…Cleveland match book cover from 1938… all the Big Four matchups were either held at Cleveland Municipal Stadium or League Park. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1938-Sports-Schedule-Matchbook-Cover-Big-Four-College-Football-Cleveland-Ohio-/254926169811?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 Edited July 14, 20213 yr by MuRrAy HiLL
July 14, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, MuRrAy HiLL said: Most notable college football team from Cleveland was probably the 1940 Western Reserve team, who won a bowl game over Arizona State, led by running back Steve Belichick (Yep, Bill’s dad) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_Western_Reserve_Red_Cats_football_team I bet that 2-0 win over BW was awesome!🤣
July 14, 20213 yr 12 hours ago, Kagedawg said: I bet that 2-0 win over BW was awesome!🤣 That’s kind of my whole point of posting this interesting history. That Big 4 WRU win over BW was more impressive than, for example, the 47-6 smashing of Miami of Ohio that season. For a decade, Cleveland had 4 college football teams who could beat anyone in the state not named Ohio State. And wins over much larger schools, West Virginia, Arizona State, Cincinnati Bearcats, and all other present day MAC schools. For example, another notable season: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Western_Reserve_Red_Cats_football_team Most of the NFL players from these 4 schools came during this stretch of play. A lot of interesting football history happened in the CLE—here’s for CWRU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_Western_Reserve_Spartans_football Edited July 14, 20213 yr by MuRrAy HiLL
July 14, 20213 yr Does anyone have a picture of the Holy Name / Cathedral Latin Charity Game? I've seen pics of it before but I can't find it. My uncle and grandpa were there - and Municipal Stadium was just about sold out. Admissions weren't logged, but it was probably the largest crowd to ever watch a HS football game
July 14, 20213 yr Just now, YABO713 said: Does anyone have a picture of the Holy Name / Cathedral Latin Charity Game? I've seen pics of it before but I can't find it. My uncle and grandpa were there - and Municipal Stadium was just about sold out. Admissions weren't logged, but it was probably the largest crowd to ever watch a HS football game Nevermind - Found one!!!
July 14, 20213 yr 3 hours ago, MuRrAy HiLL said: For a decade, Cleveland had 4 college football teams who could beat anyone in the state not named Ohio State. “Beat anyone not named Ohio State” - not so fast, my friend: 6–5–1 Western Reserve is the only Ohio team with a winning record, 6–5–1, against the Ohio State Buckeyes, playing from 1891–1934. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiVzv-nnOPxAhWIKs0KHaKGAdkQFjACegQICRAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCase_Western_Reserve_Spartans_football&usg=AOvVaw30k4dFaoC07k9iZAh995RP Also, makes me feel like a *ichigan fan to be bragging about wins from one hundred years ago. Edited July 14, 20213 yr by Boomerang_Brian Taunting of Blue When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
July 15, 20213 yr The Flats during Cleveland's bicentennial celebration, June 15, 1996. I was there as a 28-year-old single guy and fully enjoyed 🥳 the festivities. Photo by Thom Sheridan. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 19, 20213 yr Rail viaduct construction photo. Red Line will be closed for repair a couple weeks for more current construction. Cross posted to RTA news. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
July 22, 20213 yr On 7/14/2021 at 1:02 PM, YABO713 said: Does anyone have a picture of the Holy Name / Cathedral Latin Charity Game? I've seen pics of it before but I can't find it. My uncle and grandpa were there - and Municipal Stadium was just about sold out. Admissions weren't logged, but it was probably the largest crowd to ever watch a HS football game likely the biggest in ohio, but not usa: The 1937 Chicago Prep Bowl (city championship) attracted a record 120,000 fans to Soldier Field to watch Austin battle Leo for the city high school football championship.
July 23, 20213 yr Another rail viaduct construction picture. 1929 When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
July 23, 20213 yr I’m digging these viaduct construction photos RTA has been posting. You can see the houses up the hill in Tremont in the background. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
July 30, 20213 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 30, 20213 yr ^I think this photo puts into perspective how deeply rooted those parking lots in the warehouse district are and just how important the Sherwin project is. Even as early as 1955 we can see parking lots already starting to form! I didn't realize some of them go that far back.
July 30, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, YO to the CLE said: ^I think this photo puts into perspective how deeply rooted those parking lots in the warehouse district are and just how important the Sherwin project is. Even as early as 1955 we can see parking lots already starting to form! I didn't realize some of them go that far back. More shocked by the lots on 9th. Yyyyyyyikes
July 30, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, YO to the CLE said: ^I think this photo puts into perspective how deeply rooted those parking lots in the warehouse district are and just how important the Sherwin project is. Even as early as 1955 we can see parking lots already starting to form! I didn't realize some of them go that far back. I've looked at midwest downtown aerials from the 1930s, and photos from the late 1920s; already by then it is shocking how much the pre-automobile cities were accommodating cars, either with open parking lots, or parking structures, some of which were in repurposed horse stables. The automobile may be the driving force in midwest downtown development already for a century.
July 30, 20213 yr 21 minutes ago, gruver said: Boy, that is one dreary picture. By 1955 nearly all the buildings in that image were at least 25 years old (construction halted in 1929 bc of the Depression, delayed because of WWII), and probably not very well kept up during those intervening 25 years. It makes sense why people wanted new, modern buildings after living in late Victorian era cities.
August 21, 20213 yr East 55th & Woodland & Kinsman in the 1960s. It was still a busy corner in that decade but increasingly for unfortunate reasons, as the number of police cars around the intersection suggests in this photo. I wish the photo was of a prior resolution too. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 23, 20213 yr 5 hours ago, bjk said: 28 cents for gas thAt dERn SOCULIST KeNnedy is cOSTING us MUNEY!
August 23, 20213 yr Gas price increases were only slightly higher than the rate of inflation for everything else. Gas prices rose an average of 4.38% per year since 1970 vs 3.85% for everything else. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 25, 20213 yr I can't believe I'm putting this photo from the 1990s in the historical section, but I was still in college then and it was 31 years ago, Sept. 17, 1990 to be exact. It's the Marshall Building being demolished for the 1,200-foot-all Ameritrust Center tower that never was, as Ameritrust -- the Midwest's largest bank in the 1980s -- was a year away from being merged into Society Bank that was building its own skyscraper on Public Square -- Society Center Tower. And Society was about to be merged into Key Corp. of Albany, NY who moved its HQ to Cleveland. It didn't need two skyscrapers, so the Ameritrust Tower was abandoned shortly before foundation work was about to begin. The site has stayed a parking lot for 30 years. Now, Sherwin-Williams will get its shot at this high-profile site for its own HQ. This photo is by Jay Himes.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 28, 20213 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 2, 20213 yr Perhaps some of you take the redevelopment of Ohio City for granted. Younger generations never knew Ohio City as anything other than a vibrant neighborhood where houses cost a lot of money. I remember it when it looked like the 1986 photo below. It was a rough area. But as with most neighborhoods, they go through a cycle of growth, peaking, decline, bottoming out, revival and new stability. Let's start with the Southwest corner of Franklin Boulevard and West 45th Street. Franklin was Cleveland's west-side Millionaires' Row. Its mansions soon were joined by high-end apartment buildings and, after the income tax was passed in 1913, many of the wealthy families could no longer afford to maintain their homes. They were sold or donated to developers or charities to convert them into multi-family housing be it for apartments for the growing middle class, lower-class boarding homes, elderly housing and orphanages. _________________ James Dubelko posted these photos and descriptions on Facebook... Came across this fascinating photo of the Teachout Brick Block which was built in 1878 and stood on the southwest corner of Franklin Boulevard and West 45th Street until it was razed sometime between 1977 (the last year I could find newspaper references to its address) and 1986 (the year a City of Cleveland photographer snapped a photo (second below) of the vacant lot where the building once stood.) I think that it probably was the first multi-family residential building erected on Franklin Boulevard. It was originally designed for four families, although by the time this photo was taken in 1954, there were 16 families living in it. Abraham Teachout, for whom it was built, was a prominent lumber dealer and manufacturer of wooden products, and lived across the street at 4514 Franklin, a house that is still standing today. The third photo is of the southwest corner of Franklin Boulevard and West 45th today. The two-family brick house that you can see in both the second and third photos was also likely built by Teachout in the late 19th century. Teachout Brick Block 1954. The caption to the photo said that by this time the building was known as "Alabama South" because there were 16 Southern families living in it. Courtesy - CSU Special Collections. Vacant lot on the southwest corner of Franklin Boulevard and West 45th where the Teachout Brick Block once stood. This photo was taken in 1986. Courtesy - Franklin Boulevard Historic District NRHP application. Southwest corner of Franklin Boulevard and West 45th Street in 2019. (Google Map) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 3, 20213 yr On 8/25/2021 at 1:11 PM, KJP said: I can't believe I'm putting this photo from the 1990s in the historical section, but I was still in college then and it was 31 years ago, Sept. 17, 1990 to be exact. It's the Marshall Building being demolished for the 1,200-foot-all Ameritrust Center tower that never was, as Ameritrust -- the Midwest's largest bank in the 1980s -- was a year away from being merged into Society Bank that was building its own skyscraper on Public Square -- Society Center Tower. And Society was about to be merged into Key Corp. of Albany, NY who moved its HQ to Cleveland. It didn't need two skyscrapers, so the Ameritrust Tower was abandoned shortly before foundation work was about to begin. The site has stayed a parking lot for 30 years. Now, Sherwin-Williams will get its shot at this high-profile site for its own HQ. This photo is by Jay Himes.... You could put a magnet that says COTA over the RTA logo on that bus and nobody would know the difference at that time. Maybe they traded when one city or the other was short-handed and did exactly that.
September 3, 20213 yr 11 minutes ago, GCrites80s said: You could put a magnet that says COTA over the RTA logo on that bus and nobody would know the difference at that time. Maybe they traded when one city or the other was short-handed and did exactly that. Weren't they all the Ohio-built Flxible buses?
September 9, 20213 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 23, 20213 yr On 7/30/2021 at 8:12 AM, YO to the CLE said: ^I think this photo puts into perspective how deeply rooted those parking lots in the warehouse district are and just how important the Sherwin project is. Even as early as 1955 we can see parking lots already starting to form! I didn't realize some of them go that far back. The end of World War II brought back a lot of men with experience with motor vehicles (including fixing them) and road construction. The "perfect storm" that was sprawl was already well underway, though Parma was Brunswick, Maple Heights was the Nordonia area, and Euclid was Mentor.
September 24, 20213 yr Not a photo, but was perusing an estate sales' photos and came across this gem of a newspaper. Going to try and leave work early, there's some good Cleveland stuff at this one 👀
September 24, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, GISguy said: Not a photo, but was perusing an estate sales' photos and came across this gem of a newspaper. Going to try and leave work early, there's some good Cleveland stuff at this one 👀 That was also republished in 1980 for Cleveland Union Terminal's 50th anniversary. My dad took me to see some special exhibits in the old CUT concourse (now the fountain concourse at Tower City) and we bought a copy of this. I read it and other CUT books in multiple times in the coming months. We also visited the Collinwood Yards, Linndale Yards, followed the CUT right of way, took pictures of unused tracks, including those still embedded in the the pavement in the terminal. At age 13, I was already hooked. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 24, 20213 yr 26 minutes ago, KJP said: We also visited the Collinwood Yards, Linndale Yards, followed the CUT right of way, took pictures of unused tracks, including those still embedded in the the pavement in the terminal. At age 13, I was already hooked. Have you uploaded these photos anywhere on UO before?
September 24, 20213 yr 41 minutes ago, GISguy said: Not a photo, but was perusing an estate sales' photos and came across this gem of a newspaper. Going to try and leave work early, there's some good Cleveland stuff at this one 👀 Where's the sale?
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