51 minutes ago, MikeyB440 said:

Where's the sale? 

Lakewood, https://www.estatesales.net/OH/Lakewood/44107/3036192. Lots of Cleveland history books.

 

I doubt it'll be there by the time I get over that way, but please don't take that County Atlas if ya do go :) 

16 minutes ago, GISguy said:

Lakewood, https://www.estatesales.net/OH/Lakewood/44107/3036192. Lots of Cleveland history books.

 

I doubt it'll be there by the time I get over that way, but please don't take that County Atlas if ya do go :) 

Would you want me to pick it up for you if it is?

31 minutes ago, MikeyB440 said:

Would you want me to pick it up for you if it is?

 

Just sent ya a DM, UO is awesome!

2 hours ago, Cleburger said:

Have you uploaded these photos anywhere on UO before?   

 

Some. Here's one of them. This is the former CUT and Short Line right of way. I took this photo a few years later in 1983 near the Cedar rapid station, at left. The building that is now ThinkBox is ahead and to the right. A westbound Conrail transfer is on NS. These tracks on which I'm standing were for the Short Line. One track was upgraded by Conrail and later, the second track was restored when CSX acquired the Short Line. 

The saga of that atlas (thx @Boomerang_Brian for the heads up):

 

 

 

Some really neat CLE materials. Here's a couple chamber of commerce photos of the BP Bldg  and some promo stuff from Gateway. 

^ Really cool. Looks like once the lighting engineers got to the Jake’s floodlights they pointed out that they needed to be twice the size! 

I found this image in an article about Winston Willis. A tragic story in the end of course, but does anyone have an idea of where this picture was taken from? Huge trees in the background, gritty street scene in the foreground.

1 hour ago, w28th said:

I found this image in an article about Winston Willis. A tragic story in the end of course, but does anyone have an idea of where this picture was taken from? Huge trees in the background, gritty street scene in the foreground.

 

You sure those are trees?

Could be smoke I guess.

I think that's actually an image of the Detroit riot of 1967.

 

https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/detroit-race-riot-1967/

 

Edited September 28, 20213 yr by sizzlinbeef

July 1968 would have been the Glenville riots.  Could that have been a commercial section of Superior that then turned into a more residential section?  Might even be where Superior hits Rockefeller Park.

That is the Detroit riot: http://www.detroits-great-rebellion.com/Looting.html

^2,000 building destroyed during the 1967 Detroit Riots…so much urban fabric 

 

https://youtu.be/suD6tiyVrLM

 

Cleveland clinic … so much has been knocked over, hard to even gauge the perspective:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Postcard-OH-Cleveland-Clinic-Hospital-Division-of-Research-Aerial-View-Chrome-/133001559298?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

 

 

You’re looking at E.93rd between Euclid and Carnegie.  Not sure of the year… 1950s??

Edited September 28, 20213 yr by MuRrAy HiLL

It never ceases to amaze me how much density and how many mid-sized apartment buildings we've lost.

Very dirt post office building at upper left. And Sherwin-Williams' 12-year-old research & development building is in the center. Their headquarters, along with Standard Oil of Ohio, Republic Steel, plus the Erie-Lackawanna Rairoad HQs were in the building(s) at top-center.

 

These were Baltimore & Ohio "Buddliner" Rail Diesel Cars cars on display at Cleveland in 1960 (Canal and Carter Road) during a railfan trip from Akron. B&O used RDC's on the "Daylight Speedliner" service linking Pittsburgh, Washington DC and Philadelphia. 
Photograph by George Snyder, SOURCE: Cleveland Public Library

1981 vs 2021

 

13 hours ago, KJP said:

1981 vs 2021

 

This is the popular downtown view angle that will be most impacted by SHW HQ. And it’s already one of the best views - I’m excited for that tower.

 

@GISguy posted the render from that angle a few weeks ago:

 

 

 

This is the B&O railroad bridge that is in the permanent upright position next to shooters in the early 80s. Last time the bridge was used was 1985.

Mouth of the cuyahoga river before the New York central railroad built the lift bridge in 1956 for better water navigation. And the new bridge would be double tracked. The swing bridge was tangent tracked meaning only one train could cross at a time. Was a bottleneck to railroad operations.

Edited November 1, 20213 yr by bigbrian24

This is the Cleveland union terminal railroads East Cleveland station on Euclid and superior ave. You can also see the new superior rapid transit station of the Cleveland transit co. Before it was taken over by RTA in the 1970s.  Pic is about 1955 or 56

Edited November 1, 20213 yr by bigbrian24

These are Hulett ore unloaders of the Central Furnace’s. They are painted in bicentennial colors for are nations 200th birthday in 1976.

Another view of the mouth of the Cuyahoga.

1950’s the original Cleveland Union Terminal on the lake front.

Original innerbelt bridge being built in background. Foreground is the Erie railroad literary st. Yard. Sherwin Williams co. Linseed oil plant on west 3rd st. West 3rd st. Lift bridge.  And the chimney stacks are the power plant for sherwin Williams. 1950s. Fred Bultman photo

Another view of the original innerbelt bridge being built late 1950s. Fred Bultman photo

13 minutes ago, bigbrian24 said:

1950’s the original Cleveland Union Terminal on the lake front.

Wow!  I'll take Haslam's Lakefront for $500, Alex.

Some more of the original Cleveland Union Terminal on the lake front early 1900s.

Wonderful views! Digging that westward view of Cleveland Union Depot with the C&P tracks tracks crossing the LSM&S. That crossing remained in place until Penn Central's arrival in 1968. And in the eastward view, it's amazing to think of all those tracks shrinking to only one track that crossed the Cuyahoga River. It's pretty apparent why LSM&S/NYC built the Short Line around Cleveland in the early 1910s. The lakefront was a railway traffic jam of the highest order.

Yes, great pictures @bigbrian24!

i know it was reputably like the Black Hole of Calcutta in there, but I’ve never seen a picture of the inside of the original CUT. Do any exist?

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i know it was reputably like the Black Hole of Calcutta in there, but I’ve never seen a picture of the inside of the original CUT. Do any exist?

There are a couple on this page from the PD Special Section of the opening of the CUT.

 

you know how we complain the port authority land is so underutilized?

 

well, it didn't used to be !!!

 

 

Damn that's a beautiful sight. Jobs, jobs, jobs.

47 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

 

you know how we complain the port authority land is so underutilized?

 

well, it didn't used to be !!!

 

 

What is the roller coaster-looking thingy in the middle for? Loading rail cars on a second/upper deck of a ship?

1983.  Thom Sheridan photo

West Superior Avenue looking east from West 3rd street. At left is the Jacobs Block where Sherwin-Williams plans its HQ pavilion fronting Public Square. 

Some more of the B&O jackknife bridge number 463.

B&O railroad bridge number 464 next to shooters.

Edited November 29, 20213 yr by bigbrian24

Big four railroad bridge built in 1920. Torn down? Next to the Lorain Carnegie bridge.

Edited November 29, 20213 yr by bigbrian24

Carter rd. Lift bridge 

Erie railroad bridge over the cuyahoga across from central furnaces. Removed?

Edited November 29, 20213 yr by bigbrian24

Columbus rd swing bridges,before the lift bridge was built in 1940.

Harvard Denison rd. Viaduct original bridge built 1910. Replaced in 1978. Harshaw chemical bottom right of pic. Processed uranium for the government for atom bombs from the 1940s to the 1960s. 

Original iron curtain railroad swing bridge built over the mouth of the cuyahoga. Erected 1867

Edited November 29, 20213 yr by bigbrian24

Main Avenue swing bridge.

Built 1910 to replace a swing bridge. Nickel plate road lift bridge was replaced by the vertical lift bridge that is still used by the Norfolk southern railroad today in the late 1950s.

Edited November 29, 20213 yr by bigbrian24

10 AM on September 28, 1955, the new New York Central Bridge opened at a cost of $3 million. The new vertical lift span, which contained 1,410 tons of structural steel, increased the vertical clearance another 80 feet. The project received the American Institute of Steel Construction Award of Merit for the most beautiful bridge in its class. The electrical contractors were Dingle-Clark and the steel fabricators were McDowell Wellman. Under the River and Harbor Act of 1946, the federal government financed most of the cost of the new bridge as part of a $50 million river and harbor improvement project. The new crossing had a vertical clearance of 260 feet and a clear channel of 200 feet, and the lifting mechanism was worked by two 135 horsepower motors at the top of the two girders. Built in 1953 to replace an older, narrow, double track Scherzer Rolling Lift Bridge, this bridge carried the New York Central Railroad until its merger with Penn Central. Following the collapse of Penn Central, ownership was transferred to Conrail. In the mid to late 1980s, the bridge was abandoned as rail traffic had declined in Cleveland. The bridge was sold to the City of Cleveland for 1 U.S. Dollar. The bridge has now been persevered, abandoned, in the raised position to allow lake freighters, the U.S. Coast Gaurd, Cleveland Fire, and other pleasure craft to traverse the very active Cuyahoga River. Very few photos exist of this bridge in service. The south east end of the bridge connected to DK yard, a once thriving rail yard located on the Oxbow Bend Penninsula of the Cuyahoga River. According to sources who worked with the Railroad, the lift bridge at the mouth of the Cuyahoga was condidered DB 1, or DB. this bridge was considered DB 2, as it was the second vertical lift bridge owned by the New York Central at the time. Also located at the Southeast corner of the bridge is the OX tower, now abandoned. OX tower controlled the raising and lowering of this lift bridge.

These are all amazing!  Thank you!  

Linndale Big Four roundhouse. Western end of the Cleveland Union Terminal electrification.

 

Edited November 29, 20213 yr by bigbrian24

Do you have anything of the former NY Central yard east of W 110th between Clifton and Detroit?