February 7, 20232 yr On 2/3/2023 at 12:02 PM, LibertyBlvd said: Before my time, but my mom remembers it. She was working at White Motors at the time and felt the heat from the explosion. Her cousin's husband, who was employed by EOG, died in the blast. His body was never recovered. I will never understand why “The Catcher In The Rye” is considered a classic YA novel and “The Greatest Thing Since Sliced Bread” is not. As it is, the Horizon Science Academy stands at the approximate location of Stanley Chaloupka's house. Edited February 7, 20232 yr by E Rocc
February 8, 20232 yr 21 hours ago, E Rocc said: I will never understand why “The Catcher In The Rye” is considered a classic YA novel and “The Greatest Thing Since Sliced Bread” is not. As it is, the Horizon Science Academy stands at the approximate location of Stanley Chaloupka's house. neither does he: “‘The Greatest Thing Since Sliced Bread is a brilliant piece of writing--a book to put on the same shelf as Catcher in the Rye and The Outsiders. What was it like to be a kid at mid-century in the midwest? Read this book and see.” — Stephen King
February 13, 20232 yr ^^here's one from Painesville. Later known as Tony's Subway Inn, this became one of the diviest of all dives. Although this matchbook goes back possibly to the 30's, I can't imagine what level of dining and dancing took place there even in its heyday (despite the illustration it's unlikely that anyone resembling Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire were customers). It later became a somewhat notorious drug market in the 80's and has been closed for years. If you're wondering about the name "Subway," it's located on a bluff above an underpass below the old Penn Central RR tracks (pictured below and in the same level of deferred maintenance as it was fifty years ago), defined as a subway by Merriam Webster http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
February 14, 20232 yr On 2/6/2023 at 6:55 PM, MuRrAy HiLL said: Follow up from above: This was my overwhelming feeling in downtown Cleveland. Being overwhelmed. The scale of the buildings meant almost no pedestrian interaction, it felt very forbidding and foreboding. A lot of downtowns suffer from the 1970s-1980s overscale skyscraper. It's one way that Detroit, ironically, does not suffer from, at least on Woodward, since nearly nothing was built there in the 1970s and 1980s. RenCen is the glaring exception of course. Poverty preserves.
February 21, 20232 yr c. sez he was the number one car dealer in 1979 and who are we to argue lol — but i wonder if he did it again in 1980 as he hoped here below, or if rick case or ed mullinax beat him out?
February 21, 20232 yr 59 minutes ago, mrnyc said: c. sez he was the number one car dealer in 1979 and who are we to argue lol — but i wonder if he did it again in 1980 as he hoped here below, or if rick case or ed mullinax beat him out? I'll never forget the 79 Malibu my parents bought from him. Broke down on the way home from the showroom. God cars were awful in the 70's/80's....
February 24, 20232 yr Not sure if anyone has seen this site, if not, kiss the next hour goodbye. https://realstill.com/books/07dirty-old-town-1977-1988
February 24, 20232 yr Wow... all those Huletts gone. Polish neighborhoods gone. Plants gone. Blast furnaces gone. Flats mostly gone. Bridges gone. Small businesses, churches, temples and homes gone. Hotels gone. People gone. Hippo gone. Cleveland Press gone. Freighters gone. Beautiful and depressing. An ode to decay, of better days in most ways.
February 24, 20232 yr Well that was rather depressing. My grandfather bought several chandeliers from the St. Regis Hotel when it closed and installed them in his home. After he died, they were removed and distributed to each of his children. The chandelier that my mom obtained was installed in the living room of my childhood home where it remained until a few years ago when the home was sold. It is now in my brother's dining room.
February 24, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, w28th said: Not sure if anyone has seen this site, if not, kiss the next hour goodbye. https://realstill.com/books/07dirty-old-town-1977-1988 What a collection! It really documents a time of post-industrial transition. So many impressive buildings demolished.
February 24, 20232 yr @w28thGoing to need orthodontic work after seeing that collection - my jaw hit the floor. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 24, 20232 yr Yeah, it was a great collection. I wish it were thumbnailed though (ala Flickr) to get to certain photos quicker. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 24, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, w28th said: Not sure if anyone has seen this site, if not, kiss the next hour goodbye. https://realstill.com/books/07dirty-old-town-1977-1988 Love the pics, but the speling and grammear is giving me a hedacke.
February 25, 20232 yr Yeah, an incredible trove of images, seemingly out of nowhere. The steel mill pics, among others, are fascinating and views I forgot I knew (J&L mill from I-77, Worsted Mills).
February 25, 20232 yr I love the whole collection but especially the pics in and around Tremont and the Industrial Flats. I showed these to my in-laws who spent their formative years here and as soon as they saw the Sohio stacks with the dome of St. Theodosius, it brought back a lot of memories. Apparently my sister in law climbed to the top of one of those stacks back in the day. When she came into town a few years ago we walked on the Towpath and she insisted it was somewhere around there - now we know. I also learned my mother in law was among a group of hardcore Tremonters Southsiders who protested to Congress and the Senate to get the Abbey Avenue bridge rebuilt so Tremont wouldn't be cut off. A lot of those bridges were demolished and not rebuilt intentionally - that's how rough Tremont used be back in the day. Just wish more of my in-laws had taken my mother in law's advice to buy in while you could get a house around Professor and Literary for less than ten grand. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 27, 20232 yr That collection is such a powerful historical artifact. I couldn't find anything on the site to indicate who the photographer is. Does anyone here know who's behind it?
February 27, 20232 yr From the 1933 Western Reserve yearbook…streetcar era as well. E. 105th intersection on the far left. Visited the CWRU Alumni House today...neat collection of old yearbooks. Edited February 27, 20232 yr by MuRrAy HiLL
March 2, 20232 yr I don't know if this is actually a photo from the 1940s but it sure is noir.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 15, 20232 yr This is an older article from Cle.com, but it’s a fascinating account of how a Cleveland based passenger steamship was transformed into an aircraft carrier for WWII. Some great Cleveland based historical photos in the article as well. https://www.cleveland.com/news/g66l-2019/11/1e87188ead6564/see-the-seeandbee-the-luxury-cleveland-steamship-transformed-into-aircraft-carrier-for-world-war-ii.html
March 16, 20232 yr Hey! Does anyone have any photos of Andrew's Folly (Samuel Andrews Mansion on millionaire's row) that are different from the common ones you can do by google search?
March 16, 20232 yr On 2/27/2023 at 3:44 PM, MuRrAy HiLL said: From the 1933 Western Reserve yearbook…streetcar era as well. E. 105th intersection on the far left. Visited the CWRU Alumni House today...neat collection of old yearbooks. When I was there "Alumni House" was one of the southside tower dorms.
March 17, 20232 yr Love this. Do we have cozy piano bars anymore? Maybe the one at Pier W? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 17, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, KJP said: Love this. Do we have cozy piano bars anymore? Maybe the one at Pier W? In high school me and a couple friends used to put on nice clothes and hang out in the lobby of the Stouffer's hotel and drink. Was never carded once. I think the waitresses assumed if we were in there listening to piano jazz, we must have been old enough!
March 20, 20232 yr Public Square in June 1927 with Cleveland Union Terminal and its afterthought tower under construction. Even back then, they were parking cars on the SW quadrant of the square. Doesn't make it right, though... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 23, 20232 yr On 3/17/2023 at 5:51 PM, Cleburger said: In high school me and a couple friends used to put on nice clothes and hang out in the lobby of the Stouffer's hotel and drink. Was never carded once. I think the waitresses assumed if we were in there listening to piano jazz, we must have been old enough! our lower rung hs version of that was sitting in the rathskeller or otto mosers before indians games where we never ever got carded. “we’ll have corned beef sandwiches … oh yeah, and p.o.c. drafts.” lol.
March 29, 20232 yr I was doing some Spring cleaning (once every 10 or 20 years) and ran across some old issues of Life magazine from 1936 (I have no idea where I had gotten them). In the Dec. 7 edition was a section of various US cities, including this news item-- http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
April 3, 20232 yr great picture obviously from the 60's but no exact date. I remember when Carl Stokes was elected. It was a huge national story (I couldn't find the estimate for the year he was elected, but I'm guessing the population was hovering in the 800K range) Edited April 3, 20232 yr by eastvillagedon http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
April 4, 20232 yr one a year including many great historic pics that i have never seen before here: https://www.cleveland.com/life-and-culture/g66l-2019/01/43df5fe7949012/what-cleveland-looked-like-the.html 1925 aerial
April 4, 20232 yr This one with the Greyhound station gets me! It's crazy the amount of density that used to exist on Payne, Superior and St Clair back then. Somewhere in this thread there are other photos looking east from downtown and it definitely looks like Cleveland was once the nation's 5th largest city!
April 7, 20232 yr On 2/24/2023 at 12:09 PM, w28th said: Not sure if anyone has seen this site, if not, kiss the next hour goodbye. https://realstill.com/books/07dirty-old-town-1977-1988 Finally spent some time with this. Saved many photos. Unfortunately lots of inaccuracies, especially with the railroad pics. A friend of mine visited Cleveland for the first time in the 1970s and was horrified by what he saw. He said "It looked like I'd found the empty shell of a great industrial city." "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 11, 20232 yr On 2/24/2023 at 12:09 PM, w28th said: Not sure if anyone has seen this site, if not, kiss the next hour goodbye. https://realstill.com/books/07dirty-old-town-1977-1988 It's amazing how much was torn down, but also amazing some of the buildings that were saved and completely redone. I never would've thought that the Powerhouse/Aquarium today was absolutely left for dead back in the day. Likewise some of the others that have (barely) survived around town. Heck, I can't believe they didn't totally demo E55/Broadway in Slavic Village - sure seems like that's what they did just about everywhere else in town.
April 18, 20232 yr kill the irishman — a minute or so of raw video of the danny greene mobster car bombing — oct 6, 1977:
April 18, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, mrnyc said: kill the irishman — a minute or so of raw video of the danny greene mobster car bombing — oct 6, 1977: There is an exact duplicate of the car parked in front of the Boardwalk bar (my Monday burger spot) on Waterloo, just down the street from the "Ka Boom" mural where Danny's apartment got blown up (*not* by the Murray Hill guys, it turns out).
May 17, 20232 yr Some fun ones in here of 90-00's Cleveland: https://cplorg.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p16014coll6/id/2221/rec/183 CPC defining good/bad signs around the city.
May 17, 20232 yr ^ Thanks for these. I feel like I really know the streets of Cleveland (apart from Slavic Village) and so many of these places are gone forever that it's depressing. I think we've torn down more than is still standing.
May 18, 20232 yr All cities from antiquity have gone through at least one if not several waves of large-scale abandonment and reconstruction. Even some newer ones like Atlanta, Chicago and San Francisco were briefly and partially abandoned as a result of different causes. Economics is perhaps the most difficult one to overcome because it sows doubt in that city's reason for existing. Cleveland still has reasons for existing where its urbanity remains intact (or enhanced like UC) but most are the result of manmade actions that can be duplicated elsewhere and are not the consequence from the geographic arrangement of natural resources. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 20, 20232 yr An amazing photo I could study with a magnifying glass for hours and still see something new on it tomorrow. This photo is from about 1920-22 as demolition hasn't started yet for the Cleveland Union Terminals Group. The Detroit-Superior bridge is brand new so the movable span for the old Superior Viaduct is still intact. And the Bulkley Boulevard (predecessor to the West Shoreway) has a T-intersection with West 25th which was later rounded off so cars could go faster through the intersection and endanger pedestrians more. The landfill east of the lakefront docks still doesn't have a purpose yet (site of future Municipal Stadium). And that's just a few of the highlights! I'm sure you'll notice many other features. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 23, 20232 yr never forghetti the spaghetti -- late 1960s cuyayuka -- 😳 SALUTE !!! Edited May 23, 20232 yr by mrnyc
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