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via the smithsonian -- manufactured by H. A. Lozier Company in Cleveland, Ohio.

 

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1 minute ago, mrnyc said:

via the smithsonian -- manufactured by H. A. Lozier Company in Cleveland, Ohio.

 

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I think I saw this guy sipping on IPAs at the Lakewood truck park a few days ago!  

that guy in back tho -- 😂

 

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flats below main ave bridge

1939

 

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november, 1967 -- america's first big city african american mayor --

 

more:

https://clevelandmagazine.com/in-the-cle/terminal/articles/carl-b.-stokes-was-more-than-cleveland-s-first-black-mayor

 

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city rebranding attempts --

 

 

An Illustrated History of Cleveland’s Varied Attempts at “Rebranding”

 

Every so often, the local media in Cleveland sets about rebranding the city in an attempt to recover from its late-20th century decline. Why the city shouldn’t try to be what it isn’t, and instead embrace what it already is.

 

RICHEY PIIPARINEN | RUST WIRE   FEBRUARY 14, 2012

 

 

more:

https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/an-illustrated-history-of-clevelands-varied-attempts-at-rebranding

 

 

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league park --- and density!

opening day was may 1, 1891 -- the spiders starting pitcher was none other than cy young

used until 1946 for baseball, then began to be slowly torn down in 1951

 

more:

https://coolhistoryofcleveland.wordpress.com

 

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another view nearby along lexington ave around e66st -- during the 1920 world series

notable -- the only ws unassisted triple play and the first ws grand slam

 

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league park ushers -- nice cap!

 

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november, 1967 -- america's first big city african american mayor --
 
more:
https://clevelandmagazine.com/in-the-cle/terminal/articles/carl-b.-stokes-was-more-than-cleveland-s-first-black-mayor
 
Let
 
 
 
 
city rebranding attempts --
 
 
An Illustrated History of Cleveland’s Varied Attempts at “Rebranding”
 
Every so often, the local media in Cleveland sets about rebranding the city in an attempt to recover from its late-20th century decline. Why the city shouldn’t try to be what it isn’t, and instead embrace what it already is.
 
RICHEY PIIPARINEN | RUST WIRE   FEBRUARY 14, 2012
 
 
more:
https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/an-illustrated-history-of-clevelands-varied-attempts-at-rebranding
 
 
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league park --- and density!
opening day was may 1, 1891 -- the spiders starting pitcher was none other than cy young
used until 1946 for baseball, then began to be slowly torn down in 1951
 
more:
https://coolhistoryofcleveland.wordpress.com
 
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another view nearby along lexington ave around e66st -- during the 1920 world series
notable -- the only ws unassisted triple play and the first ws grand slam
 
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league park ushers -- nice cap!
 
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Was that really the type of housing we had near league park??? I’m gonna be sick.


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On 8/1/2023 at 11:43 AM, mrnyc said:

An Illustrated History of Cleveland’s Varied Attempts at “Rebranding”

 

Every so often, the local media in Cleveland sets about rebranding the city in an attempt to recover from its late-20th century decline. Why the city shouldn’t try to be what it isn’t, and instead embrace what it already is.

 

RICHEY PIIPARINEN | RUST WIRE   FEBRUARY 14, 2012

 

 

more:

https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/an-illustrated-history-of-clevelands-varied-attempts-at-rebranding

 

 

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That's an interesting take on Cleveland and the search for a brand, or slogan to capture the essence of the city. The challenge with being versus becoming is that Cleveland and other Rust Belt cities had to change after 1980. Holding on to the past, or some ideal of the past was clearly ignoring the present, but no one was ready to leave that past behind yet, always hoping for the next Renaissance or Comeback or MAGA to come along and restore the glory, not build something new. I guess owning the Burning River, or being Against Everyone seemed hip for a while, but it's a dead end, slamming your head against the wall. Hitting rock bottom after the 2008 recession and the, shall we say, timing out of the Boomer generation over the last decade or so has allowed Cleveland and other Rust Belt cities to begin to shed that nostalgia for what once was, and perhaps begin to build something better for the future. But what a difficult transition it has been. I can't think of many cities, except perhaps some old Soviet ones, that hollowed out as much as the industrial giants of the Great Lakes.  

4 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said:


Was that really the type of housing we had near league park??? I’m gonna be sick.


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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The video starts at the location where the Jefferson Street lift bridge was located until it was, ironically, heavily damaged by fire in 1952 and ultimately closed and removed. Then there is a Hullett unloader (gone) on the right for the J&L Central Furnace whose blast furnace (gone) is just beyond the Erie-Lackawanna railroad main line lift bridge (gone). Most of this area has since gone back to nature or is used for aggregrates shipping.

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Incredible. I think there's a quick appearance at right by the stacks of the Standard Oil Refinery #1 power house too (gone).

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this will make you weepy for what we once had --- excellent lake shore electric railway video from the 1930s -- 

 

 

 

such a great pic -- 

 

 

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gotta have the bleech follow up tho --

 

 

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This has been a surface parking lot for over 30 years.😡

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Such density and life. Old Cleveland reminds me of victorian era London with the crammed buildings, soot and industry.

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There's a lot going on in that photo. And look how tiny the two people are to all the industrial movement and grandeur around them. 

2 hours ago, rwashington89 said:

Such density and life. Old Cleveland reminds me of victorian era London with the crammed buildings, soot and industry.

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I think we get B&O terminal (with tower) and a distant Sheriff Street Market in that shot

^ so much going on and still room for the classic castoria, uneeda biscuits & mail pouch ads.

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Not sure the year … pre-1954?

 

1) Warehouse District intact

2) Trolley/ subway cut out on Superior 

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^ A great view of the Columbus Road viaduct. A street I can find practically nothing about online. Seems like it was built in the late 20s and was still intact as late as 1979, if not later.  Anyone got any more insight as to its origin and demise?

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6 hours ago, roman totale XVII said:

^ A great view of the Columbus Road viaduct. A street I can find practically nothing about online. Seems like it was built in the late 20s and was still intact as late as 1979, if not later.  Anyone got any more insight as to its origin and demise?

I feel like it was closed down for a long time due to neglect and finally demoed with the construction of the Waterfront line.   Perhaps @KJPhas a better memory than me of this? 

Unfortunately I don't. I remember my father driving us up/down the old Columbus Road ramp in the 1970s but I'm pretty sure the bridge was gone by the end of the 1980s. I couldn't find any references or pictures of it in later years but there's plenty of photos at Cleveland Memory of it under construction (posted below) including its June 22, 1927 opening. Perhaps the best way to nail down when it was torn down would be to find pictures of other nearby structures, such as the Detroit-Superior bridge.

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

10 minutes ago, KJP said:

Unfortunately I don't. I remember my father driving us up/down the old Columbus Road ramp in the 1970s but I'm pretty sure the bridge was gone by the end of the 1980s. I couldn't find any references or pictures of it in later years but there's plenty of photos at Cleveland Memory of it under construction (posted below) including its June 22, 1927 opening. Perhaps the best way to nail down when it was torn down would be to find pictures of other nearby structures, such as the Detroit-Superior bridge.

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My memory is foggy of this as well, but I seem to remember the old Shorty's Diner was underneath it?    

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I seem to remember the old Shorty's Diner was underneath it?

It was. In fact it almost went over all of it, so for a long time, until the viaduct was removed it was in its shadow. Shorty's had a 50s diner decor that was pretty cool. It was also  once the Erie RR depot prior to the construction of the Union Terminal.

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Erie RR actually didn't relocate its passenger trains to Cleveland Union Terminal until 1949 -- 19 years after CUT opened. Here's more info in a great video that came out yesterday...

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 10/29/2023 at 6:04 AM, KJP said:

Unfortunately I don't. I remember my father driving us up/down the old Columbus Road ramp in the 1970s but I'm pretty sure the bridge was gone by the end of the 1980s. I couldn't find any references or pictures of it in later years but there's plenty of photos at Cleveland Memory of it under construction (posted below) including its June 22, 1927 opening. Perhaps the best way to nail down when it was torn down would be to find pictures of other nearby structures, such as the Detroit-Superior bridge.

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Such a fascinating picture. It took me a moment to figure out the orientation of the photograph. Love to see the "Hotel Cleveland" signage and the beginning build of The Terminal Tower.. It is amazing to see how much progress was made in 96 years

Alpha Ct (between Euclid and Prospect / E. 9th and E. 8th… how hard to at least bring the signage back ?? (Shoutout to downtown walking tours 😀)

 

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What a neat little restaurant located in an alley. Man you just can't replicate places like that. Our old downtown didn't have many tall buildings but we sure had density and cool. Irreplaceable.

I moved to Cleveland in 1991, and I am pretty sure I actually drove, once, on the Columbus Road viaduct.   I think it came down shortly after...

Not sure the year … pre-1954?
 
1) Warehouse District intact
2) Trolley/ subway cut out on Superior 
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Literally had no idea that Superior did that. That's 100 times cooler than anything we have now.

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On 11/13/2023 at 8:18 PM, MyPhoneDead said:

Literally had no idea that Superior did that. That's 100 times cooler than anything we have now.

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That was to be the start of a downtown streetcar subway whose citywide bond issue in 1919 or 1920 was defeated by Cleveland voters due to postwar high interest rates and a belief that it should be a countywide bond issue. That photo is pre-1954 when the streetcar ramps and deck on the lower level of the Detroit-Superior were converted to a roadway that didn't work. Cars kept hitting the support posts for the upper deck which were inches from the roadway lane.

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 10/30/2023 at 3:22 PM, MuRrAy HiLL said:

Alpha Ct (between Euclid and Prospect / E. 9th and E. 8th… how hard to at least bring the signage back ?? (Shoutout to downtown walking tours 😀)

 

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That's the back of 823 Prospect, aka Medical Mutual annex building, now the (former) mail room.  I believe I remember reading the former restaurant use has ties to Chef Boyardee.

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Saw this on Facebook. I believe this is Euclid and East 30th, the caption said it was the 1960s.ce415c35c736ca907831912c69fa9b7c.jpg

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I think it's East 22nd. That looks like Trinity Cathedral in the background.

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Its EAst 30th.  That is the church across the street from News 5 studios.  

From 2011 before they CSU demoed the block for a new building.

 

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also, do the 2007 streetview tour down euclid avenue.  it is amazing how much better it got

^I'd disagree with that. The siting of the new building is perhaps the worst in the City along both Prospect AND Euclid, effectively ruining the possibility of a continuous street wall for decades.

I was talking about euclid ave in general. not that specific building

14 hours ago, w28th said:

^I'd disagree with that. The siting of the new building is perhaps the worst in the City along both Prospect AND Euclid, effectively ruining the possibility of a continuous street wall for decades.

 

its definitely not good for the err, health and wellness of the streetwall, but given what was built its better its not up on the sidewalk where you would have to actually look at it. 🙀 well ok its not that awful, but its no looker.

 

does csu have an architecture program? seems like the perfect place for an urban architecture emphasis program. i dk that it would directly help with new campus buildings, but it might if they had one, no??

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westside mrkt 1927

 

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euc 1918

 

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euc 1911

 

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via an epa study on traffic patterns 1973

 

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sherrif street mrkt 1905

 

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jeans funny house 1966

e9th & walnut

 

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citizens savings 1905

 

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