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E1o5th & Euclid looks like a lot of fun.

The Higbee Department Store on Public Square beginning construction in 1930 #ThisWasCLE

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Forty years later and nine blocks east, another construction photograph....

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

That. Is. Awesome.

Wow that is so cool.... wish the photo was just a bit wider so we could see the BOND store!

The Higbee Department Store on Public Square beginning construction in 1930 #ThisWasCLE

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In lots of these pics you just have to marvel at how nice the pavement looked compared to today.

Wow that is so cool.... wish the photo was just a bit wider so we could see the BOND store!

 

A small detail, but look what having cars parked on the street does for the perceived density of East 9th. Also doubles as a buffer from the traffic and additional parking for local business. You aren't allowed to park on E9th currently, thanks City of Cleveland Traffic Engineers.

In lots of these pics you just have to marvel at how nice the pavement looked compared to today.

 

They didn't have 80,000-pound trucks back then. And we don't charge weight-distance taxes to pay for the damage they do today.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Euclid Avenue in the East 105th neighborhood on Easter Sunday, 1915

 

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I cry inside every time I see photos like this.

The Higbee Department Store on Public Square beginning construction in 1930 #ThisWasCLE

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In lots of these pics you just have to marvel at how nice the pavement looked compared to today.

What is the building in the background? Is that the building with the first merit bank storefront at the corner of prospect and Ontario?

Yes. Those are the Landmark Office Towers

Yes. Those are the Landmark Office Towers

 

Current global headquarters of the Sherwin Williams Co. But for how long??

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

In lots of these pics you just have to marvel at how nice the pavement looked compared to today.

 

They didn't have 80,000-pound trucks back then. And we don't charge weight-distance taxes to pay for the damage they do today.

 

Also, even the lowest bidder had pride in their work.  Not so much today.

Somehow I doubt that low bidders had more pride in their work "back in the good old days".

If you want to see more photos or read more about this history, check out the website I founded but sold 11 years ago (note the statute of limitations!) ClevelandMob.com...

 

17 Vintage Photos of Cleveland’s Most Notorious Mobsters

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

If you want to see more photos or read more about this history, check out the website I founded but sold 11 years ago (note the statute of limitations!) ClevelandMob.com...

 

17 Vintage Photos of Cleveland’s Most Notorious Mobsters

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Just Danny Greene and the Porellos, with a couple nods to their then rival Lonardos.

 

No mention that a Porello descendant has already written extensively about his family.

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Check out @thiswascle's Tweet:

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Terminal Tower was finished in 1928, but the Union Terminal wasn't opened for service by regular passenger trains until June 1930. Other buildings in the Union Terminal complex were added in coming years (and in preceding years -- such as the Hotel Cleveland opened in 1918).

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Terminal Tower was finished in 1928, but the Union Terminal wasn't opened for service by regular passenger trains until June 1930. Other buildings in the Union Terminal complex were added in coming years (and in preceding years -- such as the Hotel Cleveland opened in 1918).

 

So at that point in time the only taller building in the world was Woolworth in NYC (soon to be the home of the most awesome condo on Earth).

Baldwin Wallace and Western Reserve football teams clash at League Park in 1935:

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

1) Found many old yearbooks from CWRU online.  For example, here is one from 1954-1955:  http://digital.case.edu/downloads/833707758

 

Pages 5-6 show beautiful aerials of University Circle, including much long gone residential. 

 

2) And photo's of Case's football team getting destroyed by the Alabama Crimson Tide while hosting them in University Circle :)

 

Pages 117-118:  http://digital.case.edu/downloads/83370760n

 

That star Alabama fullback, Riggs Stephenson, would sign with the Cleveland Indians (I suspect there was some connection with his Cleveland visit).

 

3) Page 10-11 show the Original Case "Main Building" which stood for only a year before burning down in 1886: http://digital.case.edu/downloads/83370773q

 

Michelson-Morley experiment equipment was lost in the fire.

Looking north on East 9th at Prospect circa 1920...

 

Check out @EncyCle_'s Tweet:

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

2) And photo's of Case's football team getting destroyed by the Alabama Crimson Tide while hosting them in University Circle :)

 

Interesting that they would play on the small school's turf.  That never happens today.  Indeed, when Boise State kept insisting on home and homes (undersized stadium with ridiculous blue turf) it helped keep them from becoming an top ranked team.

 

Case[edit]

See also: Case Western Reserve Spartans football

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Date: November 27

Location: Van Horn Field

Cleveland, OH

Game attendance: 1,000

Sources:[37][38]

On November 9, officials from both Case and Alabama agreed to play on the Saturday after Thanksgiving to close the 1920 season in what was the first time the Crimson Tide played a game in the North.[28][39] The game came together as coach Scott previously coached at Case, worked for The Plain Dealer and wanted to showcase his team back in his Cleveland home.[39] Played only two days after their win over Mississippi A&M, the Crimson Tide shutout the Scientists 40–0 in the only game between the schools and captured the first ten win season in school history.[37][38][40]

 

Alabama brought only 17 players to Cleveland for the game that included two who were from the city and Riggs Stephenson who was expected to sign with baseball's Cleveland Indians.[41] Mullie Lenoir scored first for Alabama on a 12-yard run in the first quarter for a 7–0 lead. In the second, Stephenson threw a 30-yard touchdown pass to Al Clemens that made the halftime score 14–0.[37][38] After they extended their lead to 21–0 on a short Lenoir run in the third, the Crimson Tide closed the game with three fourth quarter touchdowns that made the final score 40–0.[37][38] Stephenson was involved with all three scored with a pair scored by himself on short runs and the third on a second pass to Clemens.[37][38]

2) And photo's of Case's football team getting destroyed by the Alabama Crimson Tide while hosting them in University Circle :)

 

Interesting that they would play on the small school's turf.  That never happens today.  Indeed, when Boise State kept insisting on home and homes (undersized stadium with ridiculous blue turf) it helped keep them from becoming an top ranked team.

 

Case[edit]

See also: Case Western Reserve Spartans football

1 2 3 4 Total

• Alabama 7 7 7 19 40

Case 0 0 0 0 0

Date: November 27

Location: Van Horn Field

Cleveland, OH

Game attendance: 1,000

Sources:[37][38]

On November 9, officials from both Case and Alabama agreed to play on the Saturday after Thanksgiving to close the 1920 season in what was the first time the Crimson Tide played a game in the North.[28][39] The game came together as coach Scott previously coached at Case, worked for The Plain Dealer and wanted to showcase his team back in his Cleveland home.[39] Played only two days after their win over Mississippi A&M, the Crimson Tide shutout the Scientists 40–0 in the only game between the schools and captured the first ten win season in school history.[37][38][40]

 

Alabama brought only 17 players to Cleveland for the game that included two who were from the city and Riggs Stephenson who was expected to sign with baseball's Cleveland Indians.[41] Mullie Lenoir scored first for Alabama on a 12-yard run in the first quarter for a 7–0 lead. In the second, Stephenson threw a 30-yard touchdown pass to Al Clemens that made the halftime score 14–0.[37][38] After they extended their lead to 21–0 on a short Lenoir run in the third, the Crimson Tide closed the game with three fourth quarter touchdowns that made the final score 40–0.[37][38] Stephenson was involved with all three scored with a pair scored by himself on short runs and the third on a second pass to Clemens.[37][38]

 

 

Nice!  I suspect nowadays is entirely about the money.  Back then, it could have been more about easy wins, or showing a team off into a new metropolitan area (such as Alabama playing their first game in the northern US in Cleveland).

 

Case and Western Reserve have a more storied history in football than people realize.  I just wish there were more photos and documentation, especially during their golden eras of the 1930's and 1940's.  During Western Reserve's peak, games were held at League Park and Cleveland Municipal Stadium.  For example, check out their schedule in 1949: http://www.case.edu/its/archives/Seasons/wfoot1949.htm

 

Fun fact #1: Western Reserve is the only Ohio football team with an all-time winning record against the Ohio State Buckeyes.

 

Finding images of old football programs of Case and Western Reserve always makes me smile.  For example:

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Don't look up the score of the game though.  In fact, Case was beaten up by Ohio State, Michigan, and Notre Dame that season.  Fun fact #2: Knute Rockne made his head coaching debut in University Circle week one that year, where "the Gipper" was his star running back, who scored two touchdowns against Case.  Curly Lambeau, who would form the Green Bay Packers, also tacked on a touchdown against Case.

 

Notre Dame 26, Case 6

 

Twenty-six to six does not tell the true story of the Notre Dame-Case game played at Cleveland, Sept. 28. In the second half, the Case men were swept off their feet. The Associated Press account is as follows:

 

After playing Notre Dame to a standstill in the two opening periods, the Case eleven crumpled and Notre Dame won 26 to 6. Case scored in the opening period when brilliant open field running by Hale and a forward pass, Hale to Wolf, placed the ball on Notre Dame’s two-yard line. Capt. McCune plunged over. Vanderhoof failed goal.

 

Coach Rockne immediately pulled out two members of his back field, and sent in Bahan and Gipp, veterans of the 1917 eleven. Their presence was immediately in evidence. They did practically all of Notre Dame’s offensive work, and shortly after the second period opened, Lambeau crashed through for a score.

 

Gipp missed goal and the score was even.

 

No further scoring came in the second quarter, but in the third Notre Dame got going, and with Gipp in the stellar role ripped through the Case defense for two more touchdowns. Another tally came in the final period.

 

Baldwin Wallace and Western Reserve football teams clash at League Park in 1935:

 

WOW.  I have no idea how I missed this post/picture - very cool!

 

Found a write up on the game on the middle of page 4 http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrary/CFHSN/CFHSNv26/CFHSNv26n1a.pdf

 

This was during the heyday of the "Big Four Conference" (1933-1942) -- John Carroll, Baldwin-Wallace, Western Reserve, and Case Tech.

WOW.  I have no idea how I missed this post/picture - very cool!

 

Found a write up on the game on the middle of page 4 http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrary/CFHSN/CFHSNv26/CFHSNv26n1a.pdf

 

This was during the heyday of the "Big Four Conference" (1933-1942) -- John Carroll, Baldwin-Wallace, Western Reserve, and Case Tech.

 

I just made it harder to miss. ;)

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

These are photographs by my cell phone of poster-sized prints I found in my collection of Cleveland historical items. I discovered these prints while moving things around in preparation for the arrival of my new residents. Anyone want the originals? They are about 1' x 2'. I'm also selling a Technics turntable (although I'm giving the photographic prints away for free)....

 

Looking west on Euclid Ave toward Public Square. I believe this may be one of the victory parades at the end of World War II based on the "V" for victory ? atop 75 Public Square, a terra-cotta topped brick building that still stands and is slated for a residential conversion...

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Great Lakes Exposition of 1936-37 (either being constructed or demolished), as seen from the Engineers Building that was demolished for Key Tower in 1988. Note that a couple of single-family homes still stood next to the downtown Malls. Old SeeandBee out at the piers, along with the original Goodtime.

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Looking east on Euclid Ave from Public Square. This appears to be the Parade of Progress in 1952 since the streetcar wires have been removed. The Parade of Progress "celebrated" the conversion of the city's streetcar system to buses. But many parade-goers showed up to say goodbye to the streetcars. Then they said goodbye to Cleveland, bought a car, and moved to the suburbs.

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^^ Lakefront connectivity!

KJP. I would be interested in buying the original of either the first or second pic because they appear to be taken from the exact apartment I lived in previously! Looks like about the location of Grant's dept store on Euclid correct?

 

These are photographs by my cell phone of poster-sized prints I found in my collection of Cleveland historical items. I discovered these prints while moving things around in preparation for the arrival of my new residents. Anyone want the originals? They are about 1' x 2'. I'm also selling a Technics turntable (although I'm giving the photographic prints away for free)....

 

I would take those pictures off your hands in a heart beat!

I think that last photo is from the 1930s, actually. Looks like the Hickox building is still standing, and the movie "Postal Inspector" (visible on the marquee) was released in 1936. It's a great shot.

Wow these old pictures are equal parts amazing and painful.  That last shot...  the more I see of what was lost to make room for 200 Public Square the more I wish it was built somewhere else.  :(

 

What was the building called immediately to the west of the Arcade?

^It was the JL Hudson store, built in 1903. And I'm with you all the way on 200 PS. I'd also send back the PNC building. Blech. Probably a few others too.

In that first photo of Public Square looking NW, another tragic loss was the Marshall Building. It was gorgeous. It's the building to the left of the S&SM.

Given all the requests for the pictures, I will have them scanned in their original size and posted as PDFs for anyone who wants them to print them out at a Staples, Kinkos, etc. I don't want money for them. Anyone who wants them should have them. Stay tuned. I have to go to Staples today anyway. I will get them scanned while I'm there.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Staples didn't have a scanner with a scanning platform large enough to scan in the pictures. They were able to scan one of the 3 which was a sheet of photographic paper but the others are affixed to a styrofoam backing. Removing the photographs from the backing would destroy them. So I need a scanner big enough to make PDFs of these images.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I wish Euclid Ave would still be lined with those amazing victorian double acorn street lamps shown in KJP's photos.  Does anyone know what year they were removed and where they ended up ?  I believe State Ave. in Chicago has these street lamps in place.

The Parade of Progress "celebrated" the conversion of the city's streetcar system to buses. But many parade-goers showed up to say goodbye to the streetcars. Then they said goodbye to Cleveland, bought a car, and moved to the suburbs.

 

In other words, it's long been known that people with options strongly prefer tracked transportation to buses.....

I came across this photo while cleaning out dressers and credenzas of bags of stuff I'm throwing out. But I didn't want to throw this out. In August 1983 I got a brand-new Pentax camera for my 16th birthday. While my father and uncle were having lunch in a restaurant at Murray Hill and Adelbert road, I saw a westbound Conrail train coming. So I excused myself and headed trackside. While I missed getting a photo of the locomotives, I walked across the RTA, NS, and Conrail tracks after the train passed over to the former Cleveland Union Terminal right of way and I took the attached picture. This route remained somewhat intact 12 years after passenger trains stopped using it as a local industry could be accessed only by the CUT ROW. For the most part, however, this was a dedicated passenger route for up to 30 electrically powered passenger trains per day. This view looks west toward the Lincoln Storage at right (now CWRU's Think[box]) and the RTA UC-Cedar rapid station at left.

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This pic from 1932 shows old municipal stadium but also a smaller venue.  It looks like a playing field  with stands but I can't tell if it was used for football or tennis maybe? Anyone ever seen other photos of  that field. Never seen it before.

Man we have always liked our sports down on the lakefront.

This pic from 1932 shows old municipal stadium but also a smaller venue.  It looks like a playing field  with stands but I can't tell if it was used for football or tennis maybe? Anyone ever seen other photos of  that field. Never seen it before.

 

They also held boxing matches in the 1930s at Muny Stadium. Back then, the biggest professional sports were boxing, baseball and horse racing. And gambling was a big part of each.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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1938 map of college football:

 

"Western Reserve" gets the shout out, but none of the present day larger MAC schools such as Akron, Kent State, Toledo, Bowling Green, Miami etc.  Only Ohio State and Cincinnati Bearcats represent the rest of Ohio.

 

CLICK HERE TO ENLARGE THE MAP: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2014/11/07/history_of_college_football_map_of_teams_in_1938.html

 

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From the history books, President John Millis decided to deemphasize football in 1954, with Western Reserve pulling out of the MAC.  It's fascinating to consider what the Cleveland college football landscape would look like today if this fateful decision had not been made.  We have schools (like Cleveland State) who would love to step in and have a program, but starting one from scratch in this day and age is nearly impossible.  https://books.google.com/books?id=KFDCUPCIU7kC&pg=PA255&lpg=PA255&dq=john+millis+western+reserve+football&source=bl&ots=mTcr4hMWlp&sig=WsGSZmQgDZdZ9FZSfysEzaWvllY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj6h6CPr9rMAhUO02MKHacIAgQQ6AEIQjAG#v=onepage&q=john%20millis%20western%20reserve%20football&f=false

 

It's also fascinating to consider present day CWRU has a larger enrollment than some DI football schools, including Wake Forest, Rice, TCU, Tulsa, SMU, etc. 

for your amusement.

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the may co in downtown los angeles. it was across the strert from the orpheum theater. the building is still there, but looks to be in about the same state as the cleveland may co bldg:

 

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My mom has a stack of old Cleveland Plain Dealer papers from 1928~1930 which I was digging through.  The papers are so dry and brittle that they were crumbling as I was attempting to turn the pages.  I was able to find a few neat ones that I thought I'd share!

 

 

"Chinese break ground for new headquarters building on Rockwell Ave near East 21st" - 1930.  I believe this is the Emperor's Palace building now.

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Former headquarters on Ontario.

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Berea Bank building - May 19, 1929

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Tudor Arms - June 1930

 

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Check out what building is in the background, Fifth Church of Christ Scientist, W117th and Lake ave - April 27, 1930

 

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Detroit Superior bridge - April 27, 1930

 

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Chester Ave widening ~ 1930

 

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After the Sheriff Street Market fire which was on May 9th, 1930.  May 18, 1930

 

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Cleveland "Flats" ~ 1930

 

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"Marine graveyard" with TT in the background - April 20, 1930

 

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Forest City Baseball team of 1869 and Cleveland baseball club of 1879

 

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There were also a surprisingly large amount of ads for awning companies in the papers.  Here are a couple for Wagner which has their Scranton address

 

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Lake Erir College girls track team - May 19, 1929

 

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