Wow those are amazing!  Thanks for sharing!

Wow!!

jrosen[/member] should appreciate those Wagner Awning ads.

Awnings -- the predecessor to air conditioning. :)

I used to think all of those awnings you see all over Ohio (and were a fad during what, the 1920s-50s?) are just hideous and tacky. After looking at that picture though, I think it's really just a matter of how well-kept they are.

 

The awnings on my grandparents' house in Columbus are all rusted out, faded, bent and need repainted. That's also the case with most of the ones I see everywhere.

 

 

"For estimates phone

ATlantic 5400"

 

How does this work?

This house could be anywhere in NE OH. If I had to guess based on the time period, it would be in West Park or Old Brooklyn? Or perhaps the eastern suburbs? Thank you JG these are awesome!

 

I used to think all of those awnings you see all over Ohio (and were a fad during what, the 1920s-50s?) are just hideous and tacky. After looking at that picture though, I think it's really just a matter of how well-kept they are.

 

The awnings on my grandparents' house in Columbus are all rusted out, faded, bent and need repainted. That's also the case with most of the ones I see everywhere.

 

 

 

I have never understood the awning thing either--especially in a state that is starved for sunshine most of the year!  I figured it had some roots in post-war second-generation immigrants buying houses?

I was researching the history of awnings last night after looking at this thread, lol! I'm such a nerd. I guess I never paid attention before but in old pictures (going back to the 1860s) you can see awnings everywhere on those historic brick commercial and residential buildings. Often times on ground level the awnings would extend all the way to the curb of the wide sidewalks on large downtown streets and we're also used on windows in the floors above, although they were made from cloth/canvas or something like that, not metal and they actually look better, IMO

"For estimates phone

ATlantic 5400"

 

How does this work?

 

Before direct-dial, you called the operator and asked for "Atlantic 5400." Atlantic was the exchange in your area, and 5400 was a specific telephone line into a home or business. After direct-dial became available, you could dial into an exchange that usually involved dialing the first two letters of the exchange. And if you didn't know the exchange (or their line), you called 0 for the operator, gave the name of the person or business, and asked for the number for the business. If it was a big business, you got the switchboard and then asked for the specific person or department you wanted in that business.

As in "Garfield 1 2323":

 

Back to awnings: do people really not understand their function? Before air conditioning they were crucial for limiting passive heating, especially in south and west-facing windows. Sunlight may be scarce in Cleveland October-April, but it can bake a house or office over the summer. Growing up in a pre-war house, we had seasonal awnings installed every spring and removed in September.

^^That would make sense to have them installed seasonally--but so many seem like permanent installations?    Maybe the subject of a Tacky Post-War Suburbia thread?  :)

Before direct-dial, you called the operator and asked for "Atlantic 5400." Atlantic was the exchange in your area, and 5400 was a specific telephone line into a home or business. After direct-dial became available, you could dial into an exchange that usually involved dialing the first two letters of the exchange. And if you didn't know the exchange (or their line), you called 0 for the operator, gave the name of the person or business, and asked for the number for the business. If it was a big business, you got the switchboard and then asked for the specific person or department you wanted in that business.

 

Cool, thanks for the info.

One of the oldest, most impressive (to me) structures along lower Euclid was this house, built 1833-34, was this home for Samuel and Cornelia Cowles at 622 Euclid -- yes, the site of the "missing tooth" between the 5th Street Arcades and the Residences at 668. This photo was taken in the 1850s (looks like it was drawn on to better show the washed-out rooflines)...

 

 

This photo is later than 1850's. At the time this was taken this was Ursuline College. It was purchased in 1850 by Bishop Rappe. The sisters added the third story and the wings to it. This is on the lot of the Residences at 668 the former Taylor and Sons department store. The "missing tooth" is where the Clarence Building stood. The Clarence building pre-dated the Taylor building.

 

For some reason I am not allowed to quote the picture, but I hope the text helps.

^ interesting and i am sure everyone would like to see the photo.

 

btw you can make the quote by editing and adding the word quote in brackets at the top of your quote. it should work because you already have the bottom backslash quote.

Welcome kabemt!

 

He's responding to this post:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,766.msg786186.html#msg786186

 

And this photo in particular:

This is probably 1948. It's definitely before 1953 because the old Union Depot between West 3rd-9th is still being used by the Pennsylvania RR....

 

https://t.co/Hz6o4MnCv6

This is probably 1948. It's definitely before 1953 because the old Union Depot between West 3rd-9th is still being used by the Pennsylvania RR....

 

https://t.co/Hz6o4MnCv6

 

Amazing how many rail spurs leading to the docks!

There was also one that crossed the Shoreway at grade between the ramps to/from East 9th and West 3rd.

let's hope the tribe sweeps into chicago and cleans up like eliot ness did!

 

 

1973

 

^ i remember seeing this sign, or maybe it was it another one??

While I don't consider 26 years ago to be vintage, we don't have a "it happened during KJP's life" thread....

 

MLBcathedrals ‏@MLBcathedrals  24h24 hours ago

Last building remains before space is cleared to build Jacobs/Progressive Field in Cleveland ca, 1990 (image courtesy @TonyMazur). #Indians

 

That looks so strange for many reasons.

It looks post-apocalyptic. Hard to believe I used to park in those lots when I didn't take the Rapid to go to school downtown in the early 1990s.

I assume most of the demolition on those blocks was done in anticipation of building Gateway? Or is that just how it came to be over the years?

I almost cant remember what it looked like. Hard to believe it's been that long already. Thanks for making me feel old!

^^I think sort of both. It was identified as the site of a domed stadium proposed even before Gateway, in part because of its already decayed state. I'm not sure about the mechanics of ownership and demolition between the dome proposal and Gateway, though.

Yeah, there were lots of demolitions in that area before the domed stadium concept got cooking about 1984. The demolitions started after the first parts of the Willow Freeway and Inner Belt opened in the mid-1950s. This was a big mercantile, wholesale grocery district established following the opening of the Ohio Canal in the 1830s. So all the agricultural products that came up from Ohio's interior came onto the market here for assignment throughout the Northeast Ohio and beyond, including the Midwest and East Coast via lake shipping, Erie Canal and later the railroads. Point is, the buildings in this area were very old. And what do we do with old buildings in America that are in between a new highway and a more substantial business district nearby? Tear them down!

 

CentralInterchange1950s S by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

While I don't consider 26 years ago to be vintage, we don't have a "it happened during KJP's life" thread....

 

MLBcathedrals ‏@MLBcathedrals  24h24 hours ago

Last building remains before space is cleared to build Jacobs/Progressive Field in Cleveland ca, 1990 (image courtesy @TonyMazur). #Indians

 

Interesting that some of us are able to remember this, Central Market, what Prospect, Huron, Bolivar, Eagle Avenues and 2nd, 4th, 9th streets were like in the late 80s.  Downtown was fun...but today is a much more livable well rounded place.

You mean late 80s, not late 90s? Jacobs Field opened in 1994. They started construction on Gateway in late 1991, IIRC.

You mean late 80s, not late 90s? Jacobs Field opened in 1994. They started construction on Gateway in late 1991, IIRC.

 

Yes. Late 80s  I updated my post.

I always loved the text on that photo above , "sweeping away old neighborhoods, churches, shopping districts and homes". I mean damn those neighborhoods and churches and homes, they sound like they were so proud of it.  Was that during Al Porters reign? He must have hated those neighborhoods.  I often wonder why they didn't go further south with the roadway like where 490 is. I guess they were just following the old Viaduct but that stopped before the neighborhood. Crazy.

I took this back in 1987/88.

So nasty...

yeah there was nothing left of that area by then worth holding on to. even that badazz old school automated parking garage seems to be gone. btw they recently tore down its twin in downtown manhattan on fulton street and put up an apt bldg.

Cleveland Indians opening day of 1930!  Sadly, they lost to the Chicago White Sox 4 - 3. 

 

This is in the old League Park stadium.  The Municipal stadium opened one year later on July 1st of 1931.  The Indians would not play their first game in Municipal stadium until 1932.  Fans complained that the outfield was too big at Municipal stadium (because of the reduced number of home runs).  The Indians moved back to League Park and played there until 1946.

 

Cleveland Indians opening day of 1930!  Sadly, they lost to the Chicago White Sox 4 - 3. 

 

This is in the old League Park stadium.  The Municipal stadium opened one year later on July 1st of 1931.  The Indians would not play their first game in Municipal stadium until 1932.  Fans complained that the outfield was too big at Municipal stadium (because of the reduced number of home runs).  The Indians moved back to League Park and played there until 1946.

 

Indians played their weekday games at League Park until 1946. They played their weekend games at Municipal Stadium to accommodate the bigger crowds.

Wish the care and importance of league park was recognized earlier. The one thing I find cool about Wrigley is how it is tied into the neighborhood fabric it feels all the more urban. I always thought older parks such as Wrigley and even Fenway were so cool.

i always thought the jake/prog ballpark should have been built at league park. downtown was the style of the day unfortunately.

Honestly I kind of doubt that the residents of Hough would have been particularly happy being overrun by 10's of thousands of fans 80 times a year.  Hough's a lot quieter than during it's League Park days, and the Jake much larger than League Park.

Honestly I kind of doubt that the residents of Hough would have been particularly happy being overrun by 10's of thousands of fans 80 times a year.  Hough's a lot quieter than during it's League Park days, and the Jake much larger than League Park.

If League park was kept up, used and expanded upon like Wrigley the residents of hough probably wouldn't mind because the park would have been used for generations and people would be used to the hustle and bustle of the area. Also the attraction of league park could have possibly been used as a stimulus to carry the neighborhood through future development.

^ well the residents didn't mind back in the day and people don't seem to mind today in places like around wrigley. not to mention the neighborhood jobs. i think if it had happened again at league park when the jake/prog was built people would be used to it by now and the surrounding area would look quite different and be more built up again. there was certainly room to do it and there still is. the immediate area is mostly a classic post rust belt scattering of a few homes and grasslands today. a waste of space.

 

regardless of how anyone felt it never would have happened anyway because building ballparks right downtown was so very strongly in the zeitgiest of that particular new stadiums era.

Any one know what building is in in the distance, off the top-left corner of the Trust Building in this photo?

 

http://ideastream-production.s3.amazonaws.com/images/news/2015/heinens-1906.jpg

Any one know what building is in in the distance, off the top-left corner of the Trust Building in this photo?

Looks to me to have been the Hotel Martinique, which was razed when Halle's expanded their foot print. It apparently was a rather nice hotel, as evident from this Cleveland News photo:http://www.gettyimages.pt/detail/fotografia-de-not%C3%ADcias/women-in-large-carriage-on-street-for-cleveland-fotografia-de-not%C3%ADcias/90002900#women-in-large-carriage-on-street-for-cleveland-new-party-hotel-picture-id90002900

Looks to me to have been the Hotel Martinique, which was razed when Halle's expanded their foot print. It apparently was a rather nice hotel, as evident from this Cleveland News photo

 

Thanks Barneyboy. Ill go with that for now. I couldn't find any more pictures or info on Martinique with a shallow google search.

What a lovely little street scene.

 

33 Vintage Photos of Cleveland Municipal Stadium

http://photos.clevescene.com/33-vintage-photos-cleveland-municipal-stadium/

Looking north at traffic on E. 12th from Euclid, 1948 #ThisWasCLE https://t.co/fn0Nlck7FR

 

#ThisWasCLE 1920 - the 9th Street dump was an incredible disregard for our lakefront. https://t.co/j7RzWYSJt7

37 Vintage Photos of Public Square in Downtown Cleveland

https://t.co/3zNYuQ0YZQ https://t.co/YglE4tMhZG

^^Mayor Jackson should spend the weekend reviewing these....