January 1, 20178 yr The public square from the 50s up until this recent renovation was nothing special. Mainly due to how wide the roads were.
January 28, 20178 yr ^nice perspective that I havent seen before. So that would be 55 public square to the right and the Jacobs lot peaking out behind it.
January 28, 20178 yr ^nice perspective that I havent seen before. So that would be 55 public square to the right and the Jacobs lot peaking out behind it. Their 1931 equivalents.....55 Public Square was built on the site of an old courthouse that was demolished that year.
January 29, 20178 yr I wish those majestic lamp posts still existed around Public Square and Euclid Ave. I believe they were the same ones that still line State Street, in Chicago.
January 29, 20178 yr ^nice perspective that I havent seen before. So that would be 55 public square to the right and the Jacobs lot peaking out behind it. Their 1931 equivalents.....55 Public Square was built on the site of an old courthouse that was demolished that year. You're right, the building to the extreme right is the old courthouse, and the white building in front of it (to the right of the farthest right lamp post) is the Marshall Building which was at the NW corner of PS and Superior Ave. The Marshall Building was demolished around 1990 (give or take a year) to make way for the never built Ameritrust Center. IMO, the Marshall Building was a very classy looking building and a great loss to the CLE skyline. Great picture though. Thanks for posting it.
January 30, 20178 yr ^nice perspective that I havent seen before. So that would be 55 public square to the right and the Jacobs lot peaking out behind it. Their 1931 equivalents.....55 Public Square was built on the site of an old courthouse that was demolished that year. You're right, the building to the extreme right is the old courthouse, and the white building in front of it (to the right of the farthest right lamp post) is the Marshall Building which was at the NW corner of PS and Superior Ave. The Marshall Building was demolished around 1990 (give or take a year) to make way for the never built Ameritrust Center. IMO, the Marshall Building was a very classy looking building and a great loss to the CLE skyline. Great picture though. Thanks for posting it. The Marshal would have been a nice rehab into apartments with historic tax credits if it were still around...
January 31, 20178 yr While I don't consider 1985 historic, this is still an amazing photo tweeted by @MichaelCondelli Me, 5-5-85, Old River Rd & St. Clair. Boarded warehouse behind is gone, apartments now. @FlatsForward, @ShareTheRiver @InTheCLE, @EncyCle_ https://t.co/dPOIJYD4ID "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 31, 20178 yr Some fine rides behind you there as well! Man those 70's cars barely made it into the 80's with our salty roads!
February 1, 20178 yr Some fine rides behind you there as well! Man those 70's cars barely made it into the 80's with our salty roads! And no factory rust-proofing back then. If you wanted rust-proofing, you had to go to Earl Scheib or Maaco. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 1, 20178 yr Some fine rides behind you there as well! Man those 70's cars barely made it into the 80's with our salty roads! And no factory rust-proofing back then. If you wanted rust-proofing, you had to go to Earl Scheib or Maaco. I remember Ziebart, which I am surprised to find still exists: http://www.ziebart.com I guess they adapted and changed their business model somewhat!
February 1, 20178 yr If you haven't already (not sure if it's been posted), check out the Cleveland Public Library's Digital Gallery - http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/index.php/cdm Specifically check out http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/cdm/landingpage/collection/p4014coll18
February 1, 20178 yr If you haven't already (not sure if it's been posted), check out the Cleveland Public Library's Digital Gallery - http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/index.php/cdm Specifically check out http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/cdm/landingpage/collection/p4014coll18 Spent many hours on that site but it wasn't util you posted it just now that I randomly found a picture of my house from 1930! Thank you.
February 2, 20178 yr Some fine rides behind you there as well! Man those 70's cars barely made it into the 80's with our salty roads! And no factory rust-proofing back then. If you wanted rust-proofing, you had to go to Earl Scheib or Maaco. Yep, that's when the zinc companies (stung by the expanded use of plastic for weight reduction reasons) started promoting hot dip galvanizing of frames and body panels.
February 3, 20178 yr If you haven't already (not sure if it's been posted), check out the Cleveland Public Library's Digital Gallery - http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/index.php/cdm Specifically check out http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/cdm/landingpage/collection/p4014coll18 Spent many hours on that site but it wasn't util you posted it just now that I randomly found a picture of my house from 1930! Thank you. Welcome, we're always adding more photos to the site. /sidebar (I work for CPL and although I'm not a part of the Digital Gallery department, I work with them and can relay any questions or suggestions that you have to them :))
February 7, 20178 yr If you haven't already (not sure if it's been posted), check out the Cleveland Public Library's Digital Gallery - http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/index.php/cdm Specifically check out http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/cdm/landingpage/collection/p4014coll18 Spent many hours on that site but it wasn't util you posted it just now that I randomly found a picture of my house from 1930! Thank you. Welcome, we're always adding more photos to the site. /sidebar (I work for CPL and although I'm not a part of the Digital Gallery department, I work with them and can relay any questions or suggestions that you have to them :)) I'd suggest talking to Alcoa's historians. I know they have them.
February 14, 20178 yr I'm struggling understanding this aerial. West of Hotel Cleveland was built out to the corner (bottom right of photo) at one point?? When would this be, AT&T is under construction (completed in 1927) but Terminal Tower is finished already?
February 14, 20178 yr It appears to be an artist's rendering of the Terminal Tower complex. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
February 14, 20178 yr ^I thought that might be the case but there was no indication on the photos description. How awesome would that have been if we had something like that, instead of that weird bunker garage and surface lot today.
February 14, 20178 yr Wow that's a fascinating picture. I've never seen anything like that rendered next to the Renaissance except for the addition they proposed in the 90's. Very interesting.
February 14, 20178 yr Terminal Tower was still under construction in 1927 (though its steel had topped out) and Hotel Cleveland was never built out to the corner of Prospect and Superior. So yes, it's a rendering. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 14, 20178 yr I'm not a Cleveland expert, but doesn't the river look empty in that photo? And what was the market house on Ontario?
February 14, 20178 yr I'm not a Cleveland expert, but doesn't the river look empty in that photo? And what was the market house on Ontario? There's only a tiny triangle of river on the far right of the image. If you're referring to the light patch directly to the right of the Terminal Tower complex as the river, that's actually dirt from the construction. Its land on which the railroad tracks would sit, which is now parking.
February 14, 20178 yr I'm struggling understanding this aerial. West of Hotel Cleveland was built out to the corner (bottom right of photo) at one point?? When would this be, AT&T is under construction (completed in 1927) but Terminal Tower is finished already? This photo is fascinating! I never realized how massive The Huntington Building at East Ninth and Euclid is until I see t from this era. Great to see how The Burnam Malls were coming along
February 17, 20178 yr yeah its really interesting. the whole terminal tower complex is a cartoon. i wonder why they did not build it out that way? anyway, great to see the rest of the city so intact.
February 17, 20178 yr Fantastic photo and what an amazing rendering too! The Terminal Tower complex fooled me at first as well. Great photo find!
February 17, 20178 yr There's only a tiny triangle of river on the far right of the image. If you're referring to the light patch directly to the right of the Terminal Tower complex as the river, that's actually dirt from the construction. Its land on which the railroad tracks would sit, which is now parking. True. But most of that construction site is now under Huron, Prospect, West 2nd, West 3rd and West 6th, all of which are on bridges over the RTA tracks/station and former 12-track Cleveland Union Terminal tracks/station (now Tower City's The Avenue) with two levels of parking where the trains once ran. The surface parking lot is on the former 9-track coach yard where trains were stored, cleaned, serviced and restocked. "Traction" tracks are today's rapid transit tracks but it was to be the station for all electric interurban railways coming into Cleveland. "Steam" tracks are for the railroads which used mostly steam locomotives back then but trains serving Cleveland were operated by electric locomotives from Linndale, through CUT, to Collinwood from 1930-1953. cut-track-final by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr CUT 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr CUT night 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr On the Cuyahoga Valley viaduct -- note that the rapid transit tracks on the bridge to the west side don't yet exist (not until 1954).... CUT electrics on viaduct-1950s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr CUT train heading west, past West 25th Street.... CUT-electric-W25th-1953s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr CUT cutaway1m by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr These photos are all from just before opening day, in June 1930... South end of station below Huron CUT platforms4 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr East end of station near the opening (where a building was planned but never built) where the Lebron banner is CUT platforms3 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr West end of railroad station CUT platforms2 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr Far west end of station, below Huron (the post office building wasn't built yet -- it wasn't completed until 1934) CUT platforms1 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 17, 20178 yr Bingham building under construction. https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
February 18, 20178 yr Looking for any old photos of the Everready battery factory before it was a brownfield or Battery Park.
February 18, 20178 yr Looking for any old photos of the Everready battery factory before it was a brownfield or Battery Park. Best I could find with a quick Google search: It's just a bit different today, with the next phase of housing (now almost done) just starting construction in this photo from last year: "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 20, 20178 yr Is that a Japanese flag atop the tower? Sure looks like it. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 19, 20178 yr Does anyone have any photos of the old Clark Bridge? I live in Tremont and always drive by the two stumps at the intersection of Quigley/Clark, so I'm curious what the bridge looked like. Ive seen the postcard images and also the photo with all of the pollution, but I've yet to see one that enables me to imagine what it would look like today (i.e. If I were driving on Quigley, etc).
March 19, 20178 yr Does anyone have any photos of the old Clark Bridge? I live in Tremont and always drive by the two stumps at the intersection of Quigley/Clark, so I'm curious what the bridge looked like. Ive seen the postcard images and also the photo with all of the pollution, but I've yet to see one that enables me to imagine what it would look like today (i.e. If I were driving on Quigley, etc). There are some good ones here: http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm/search/searchterm/clark%20bridge!MP3%20jpg%20jpeg%20f4v/field/all!format/mode/all!any/conn/and!and/order/nosort/cosuppress/0/page/4
March 19, 20178 yr So did it extend all the way to Pershing? Thanks for the photos. Pershing and Clark are the same, just as other east/west roads changed names at the river. One item about the bridge is that didn't stay at the same elevation as the tops of the east and west sides of the valley. The bridge, or fills in between some of the spans, descended down into the valley, then rose up again to be high enough to cross the river so that ships could pass underneath without the need for a movable span. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 19, 20178 yr It's easy to forget how important a bridge like this must have been before the freeway crossings were built. All the other bridges in the city either took you into downtown congestion or could get stuck open to let ships pass by.
March 19, 20178 yr A great photo from that CSU set is this one from 1985, showing the extent of the Flats industrial area. This was near the end of its fully developed, active steel-making facilities. The demolitions were soon to come, starting with the two blast furnaces on either side of the now-gone Clark Avenue bridge -- victims of pollution controls and more cost-effective electric arc furnaces. At the top of the photo, but below MetroHealth hospital, is the west-side mills that shaped the molten steel into coiled sheets, rods, pipes and other usable forms -- and which were closed in the 1990s and later demolished for Steelyard Commons. They became unnecessary with the construction of a labor non-intensive continuous caster just north of the Harvard-Denison bridge. More than 40,000 people worked within the frame of this photo before the 1980s. Fewer than 2,000 work there today. FlatsIndustrial-1985s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 20, 20178 yr might be posted already, but anyway ... View east on Central Ave. in 1927 as a freight motor pulls a trailer north on Ontario St. during Central Viaduct closure. (CSU) cleveland to painesville lakeshore electric run (Case) i find the enormous old cleveland union depot endlessly fascinating (1864-1959) interesting 1877 view of it from over lake erie The 600-foot-long shed of Union Depot had been a source of pride after its construction in 1866 it was so smoky in there someone paid for a billboard! http://beltmag.com/train-dreams-part-2/ from etsy of all places this one is pretty cool -- Cable Cars [Cleveland City Cable Railway No. 118 streetcar, Wade Park, Payne (museum of the city of ny)
March 30, 20178 yr Building the bridges of Cuyahoga County (vintage photos) http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/03/vintage_pictures_of_bridge_bui.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 5, 20178 yr Ok, I'm a pretty darn good fanatical Cleveland historical fan and I cannot figure out what the structure just to the left of the Terminal structure is - some type of U shaped building that is under construction? I don't show any record of anything like this. Can anyone help me under stand what this is? Looking at historical and current photos, nothing like this seems to have ever existed here... Wait, are you serious? That's the Landmark Office Towers. Still standing today... The U-shaped building under construction is the same one where the LeBron James mural is, facing Ontario as it runs southward towards I-71.
April 5, 20178 yr I am trying to locate photos of California Alley in the 1880s. This is a street that ran where the One Cleveland Center parking garage currently sits, bounded by East Twelfth and another alleyway that ran parallel to Erie Street (now East Ninth). California Alley itself ran parallel to Oregon (now Rockwell) and St. Clair Avenue. Attached is a Sanborn map of the area I'm describing.
April 8, 20178 yr ^Have you tried the photo collection at the Cleveland Public Library's main branch? I'm doing research there for a book, but the amount of photos and subject matter is incredible. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
May 4, 20178 yr I am trying to locate photos of California Alley in the 1880s. This is a street that ran where the One Cleveland Center parking garage currently sits, bounded by East Twelfth and another alleyway that ran parallel to Erie Street (now East Ninth). California Alley itself ran parallel to Oregon (now Rockwell) and St. Clair Avenue. Attached is a Sanborn map of the area I'm describing. no photos, but i came across a mention of california alley in the cleveland: making of a city book. it's on page 336. somebody formed a jewish congregation there: https://books.google.com/books?id=IT1NVT1vEwUC&pg=PA336&lpg=PA336&dq=cleveland+california+alley&source=bl&ots=ZlzKkQmtXr&sig=LpG8QUz32GbuZV7PiCFV-kp9fqY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjk3cTRvtbTAhVIMyYKHdA9DvEQ6AEIMDAF#v=onepage&q=cleveland%20california%20alley&f=false
May 24, 20178 yr #ThisWasCLE 1880s/2017 - Forest City House in the southwest corner of @CLEPublicSquare. Built as Dunham House in 1848, demolished in 1916. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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