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Michelle Jarboe

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#tbt Downtown #CLE's @playhousesquare in 1970, when the theater marquees advertised films playing in the 'burbs. via @Cleve_Memory

 

OK here I go really making the big mistake of dating myself, but is there anybody else on the forum who actually remembers seeing a MOVIE at Playhouse Square.  I can remember two specifically (The Sound of Music and strangely a film called Torn Curtain with Julie Andrews and Paul Newman).  I would imagine I saw a couple of more but cannot recall exactly.  My grandmother would take me downtown with her "lady friend".  Have no idea which theatres but I do remember sitting in the balcony.

I'm somewhat amazed how few of these old downtown businesses ended up surviving to present times. The retail I get, but it's not like restaurant and bar demand ever dried up completely.  Which current bar or restaurant is the longest running (in its current space)?  I'm not counting Otto Moser's because of its move to PHS.

^My best guess is Johnnys and I believe that only dates from the late 80's early 90"s.  It was the Burgess Grand Café before that for a few years when the building was first renovated in the 80s.

 

Is the Lincoln Inn still around in 75 Public Square?  If yes I would imagine that is older.

 

There has to be one or two dives on the fringes of downtown which are older, especially if it is just a bar

Moriarity's on E 6th has been their pretty darn long IIRC.  I feel like I talked to the owner one night and he has had it for 30+ years, and bought it off someone else who had it nearly as long.  It would make sense at the end of Short Vincent.

 

EDIT:  Since the 1930's according to this blurb:  http://www.cleveland.com/goingout/index.ssf/2009/12/moriartys_in_cleveland_is_a_do.html

Moe's on E. 17th has a sign outside claiming to have been around for like a hundred years, though today it is a 90s nostalgia bar. Also Becky's a block away seems pretty old. They are the "CSU bars" if such a thing exists

There’s bars that have been around longer, but I think that jewelers in the 925 building has been in the same spot for 50+ years.

Moe's on E. 17th has a sign outside claiming to have been around for like a hundred years, though today it is a 90s nostalgia bar. Also Becky's a block away seems pretty old. They are the "CSU bars" if such a thing exists

 

The sign says "Since 1956" which is pretty old, I guess, but still surprised there isn't like one thing that survived from the 1920s. How cool would it be to still have something like the Black Whale? http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/postcards/id/3743/rec/1 

 

The Rathskeller and Otto Moder's on 4th were probably our last best hope for something really old sticking around. Not a huge deal, I know.

^ i would say our last best hope was kindlers in the flats. there was no real reason for it to go other than the typical small minded house cleaning that went on down there to clear it all out. it was definitively historic as thee oldest bar in cleveland. oh well lets not go there.

Speaking of the Flats, we forgot Flat Iron! They claim to be pretty old, don't remember how old.

the front door of kindlers rip

 

^Ah, right, forgot about Kindlers. Would have been nice to see that integrated into FEB, but can't even remember now how that site related to the project. 

 

And that reminds me that Flat Iron exists [reminded mu2010[/member] too!], and that's arguably downtown.  And I know there are a few old places very near downtown, too (Jerman's, Hotz, Harbor Inn, Sokolowski's), but I'm putting those aside.

This Cleveland.com piece says Moriarty's is from 1939, so that's pretty old, too: http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/04/clevelands_oldest_bars_more_th.html

I thought that Karl's Inn of the Barristers was old, but turns out it was started only in 1991.

 

The Mardi Gras Lounge & Grill (1423 E. 21st St.) has been around for a long time (1940s?) but it recently closed. It was apparently a big mob hangout with gambling in back until at least the mid-2000s.

 

What happened to Headliners? It was over by the Plain Dealer but I can't find any listings for it. Did it close? I went there with family for a burger and a beer before walking over to the Browns-Dolphins Monday night game in 1986.

Moriarity's has been there since around the 30s.

Hotz's owners contend that they are the oldest *continually operating* bar in Cleveland, with Flat Iron being the oldest bar in the city - with a gap in prohibition.

 

Additionally, a fun fact - there is a speakeasy on the second floor of Rex's Autobody on Church that was used during prohibition. The garage was a loading / dropoff point for bootleggers making runs from Canada to Cleveland Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. The bar is fully intact and the owner of the shop is known to have some private parties there.

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4897409,-81.7086562,3a,75y,3.25h,96.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1ss7pTeHRnfFrYAWtH4z5lnw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Ds7pTeHRnfFrYAWtH4z5lnw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D213.11378%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

^Ah, right, forgot about Kindlers. Would have been nice to see that integrated into FEB, but can't even remember now how that site related to the project. 

 

And that reminds me that Flat Iron exists [reminded mu2010[/member] too!], and that's arguably downtown.  And I know there are a few old places very near downtown, too (Jerman's, Hotz, Harbor Inn, Sokolowski's), but I'm putting those aside.

 

Drawing a blank, where was Kindlers? Was it in this building? https://goo.gl/maps/Lt4P1qtTEcz

^Yeah, I think so. Not sure if I was ever there, to be honest.

^Yeah, I think so. Not sure if I was ever there, to be honest.

 

That building was last called "Amsterdam" I think.

That's it. When Kindler's closed, the space reopened as Amsterdam before it was all torn down

The Hickox Building at the NW corner of East 9th and Euclid in 1920. It was demolished for the art deco-spaceship styled Bond Clothing store just after WWII which fell in 1978 before the construction of the National City Bank (now PNC) ivory tower....

I've read that the Hickok Building was of the same quality on the exterior to that of the Old Arcade. This was a huge loss, as was the building directly to the west. Just crazy how retail chains were able to completely wipe out significant structures and replaced them with much shorter buildings (Bond and Woolworth a bit lower down Euclid).

Wow that was amazing.  Must have made a great compliment to the Shofield across the street.

If we would've NOT torn down even just 40% of the structures we have downtown and instead built on vacant or under-utilized lots, we would have a wholly different volume and density downtown.

Wow that was amazing.  Must have made a great compliment to the Shofield across the street.

 

Sure would have. In Cleveland lore of buildings that should never have been demolished, the Hickox is near the top. Along with the original Hollenden Hotel.

 

What year was The Hollenden Hotel demolished?

1962

It was pretty nice inside, too

Euclid Avenue, South Side, Between E. 9th and E. 12th Streets, Looking East, During Washington's Birthday Parade. Feb. 22, 1889. Source: @Cleveland_PL

 

 

Sure would have. In Cleveland lore of buildings that should never have been demolished, the Hickox is near the top. Along with the original Hollenden Hotel.

 

 

If we would've NOT torn down even just 40% of the structures we have downtown and instead built on vacant or under-utilized lots, we would have a wholly different volume and density downtown.

 

Probably one of the last photos of the Hollenden.  And also, peak density?

Those pics are fascinating.  Do you have years for them?

Just think if we could have kept the vast majority of the building stock of those lower 2 photos and pushed the office developments of the 60's, 70's and 80's and Gateway further east and south.

That Superior Avenue photo is awesome.

Lower photo is probably 1957 (55 Public Square under construction) and the middle one is probably a year or two earlier. I like the big Coke sign at W3rd and Superior.

Those pics are fascinating.  Do you have years for them?

 

They're all from the 1950s. The second one is from a postcard I scanned and posted on here some time ago. I estimated it was from 1955. The last one has the Illuminating Company headquarters (55 Public Square) at an advanced stage of construction. That building was completed in 1958, so this is probably the year before.

 

EDIT: note in the second photo that the ground is still freshly disturbed where the old Cleveland College (next to the Society For Savings) stood on the NE corner of Public Square. This building was demolished in 1953, so it may be 1954, not 1955.

^An uncle, who was in Cleveland real estate told me that the Hollenden, which always looked good from the outside originally had a lot of very small rooms, not all of which had baths. Over a series of modernizations, the rooms became increasingly hacked up and uncompetitive with newer properties.  It would have taken a total gutting of the interior to save the H and nobody, at least not in the US, was doing that at the time. The Renaissance (Hotel Cleveland) nearly met the same fate; it was saved by reducing the room count from 1,000 to 400.

In 1917, back when men were men and steam shovels were cheap, there was a plan to straighten out the Cuyahoga (crooked in the Mohawk language) River. Imagine the hoo-ha if this were proposed today.

 

I never knew the original proposal for the Lorain Rd. bridge was to connect to Huron rather than Central/Carnegie.

I never knew the original proposal for the Lorain Rd. bridge was to connect to Huron rather than Central/Carnegie.

 

Yes, but it was deemed too long/expensive and the desire was get more traffic out of the crowded central business district north of Carnegie.

Does anyone have the backstory on the Tremaine-Gallagher house (shown in link). I cannot find much but would love to know its story as well as its original owner's... http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?q=Photograph%3A%20oh0016&fi=number&op=PHRASE&st=gallery

On May 15, 1978, Ord. 716-78 was passed designating Ceska Sin Sokol Hall as a #Cleveland Landmark. Built in 1890 as Hungaria Hall, it was purchased in 1907 by a group Czech societies. Read about its history and importance to NE Ohio College gymnastics: https://t.co/Ln1dp0EbQJ

 

Photos

https://t.co/ilLweHHwgB

On May 15, 1978, Ord. 716-78 was passed designating Ceska Sin Sokol Hall as a #Cleveland Landmark. Built in 1890 as Hungaria Hall, it was purchased in 1907 by a group Czech societies. Read about its history and importance to NE Ohio College gymnastics: https://t.co/Ln1dp0EbQJ

 

Photos

https://t.co/ilLweHHwgB

 

That gymnastic tradition is carried on to this very day by the employees of the Million Dollar Gentleman’s Club!

On May 15, 1978, Ord. 716-78 was passed designating Ceska Sin Sokol Hall as a #Cleveland Landmark. Built in 1890 as Hungaria Hall, it was purchased in 1907 by a group Czech societies. Read about its history and importance to NE Ohio College gymnastics: https://t.co/Ln1dp0EbQJ

 

Photos

https://t.co/ilLweHHwgB

 

That gymnastic tradition is carried on to this very day by the employees of the Million Dollar Gentleman’s Club!

 

LOL that is next door (sort of) and I am pretty sure it is still in use as a gym.

#TBT Prospect after Dark, 1949. Subject #Cleveland Collection No. 019265, Cleveland Public Library Photograph Collection. Source: Cleveland Press. Photographer: Unknown.

 

^i want to be there

#Cleveland #Flats Entertainment Assoc. Source: @Cleveland_PL in July, 1985 @ClevelandMag

 

^^^ That is Fantastic!!!! wow, the memories!!!

I was served adult beverages in most of those bars although I was underage ID's weren't required. Here is a photo I took at the BP Riverfest circa middle 80's.

Redirected from the Cleveland West Park thread... Mining Company wasn't in Parma. It was in Cleveland -- 5100 Pearl Road. It was in the same building with another Cleveland institution of my teen years -- Peaches records. Mining Company was to the right of the tower.

 

 

This became another club in the 90s.  I might or might not have been there.