April 16, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, mrnyc said: just a reminder today after the notre dame fire that these things happen ? Which fire was that? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 16, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, KJP said: Which fire was that? Euclid Avenue on Cleveland Clinic Campus.
April 16, 20196 yr Was that the church fire that started form an out of season, lighting strike a few years back? Edited April 16, 20196 yr by viscomi
April 16, 20196 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 17, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: I thought the blimp was a bridge between the two buildings.
April 18, 20196 yr On 4/16/2019 at 4:34 PM, viscomi said: Was that the church fire that started form an out of season, lighting strike a few years back? yes - in 2010: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/03/euclid_avenue_congregational_c.html
April 18, 20196 yr On 4/6/2019 at 2:36 PM, KJP said: Yep. One of its last incarnations was as Jimmy's In The Flats. Jimmy's lasted a pretty long time because I used to go there (among many of our Flats stops) in the early 1990s during my second stint in college. I recall Jimmy's lasted until the mid-2000s. We went down there after an Indians game once and the owner objected to our baseball caps so about ten of us walked out, never went back. This would have been mid 90s. Thought they closed soon after (maybe sold?). River's Edge was our spot other than for concerts.
April 19, 20196 yr Well it's not really a photo and people my age will debate whether it's "historic" but I can't think of a better place to post it.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 23, 20196 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 26, 20196 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 26, 20196 yr 19 minutes ago, KJP said: Bet some old school Clevelanders had a good snicker when Boccuzzi opened his restaurant. ?
April 27, 20196 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 27, 20196 yr I loved Kenny Kings. Best fried chicken ever! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 28, 20196 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 29, 20196 yr Dated. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 1, 20196 yr On 4/29/2019 at 11:49 AM, mrnyc said: broadvue theater pearl road My grandpa grew up in this neighborhood... whenever he references it to me, he says, "but that's when Broadview and Pearl was a metropolis!"
May 1, 20196 yr On 4/29/2019 at 11:49 AM, mrnyc said: broadvue theater pearl road Annnnd it's a family dollar now
May 3, 20196 yr My bi-annual trip down the historic photo search rabbit hole. Several pics I'd never seen before. Carnegie and E22nd (apparently Carnegie stopped at E22nd, it was then extended to E14th in the late 20's or early 30's). Looking up W25th to the Lake These buildings just east of 925 Euclid are currently being rehabbed. Penn Square Theater, west of E55th on Euclid, north side of the street. South side of Woodland Avenue just west of E55th. Alhambra Theater fire, north side of Euclid just west of E105th The Doan Theater, just west of E105th on St. Clair E105th just north of Euclid, east side of the street. Chester at E12th Street East 9th & Chester E6th & Euclid East 14th & Prospect, notice the 12 story building with the Red Cross sign two buildings east of the current Halle garage Edited May 3, 20196 yr by w28th
May 3, 20196 yr Do you have a year for that top pic of Carnegie and E22nd? Also, is there *anything* in that picture that is still standing?
May 3, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, ryanfrazier said: Do you have a year for that top pic of Carnegie and E22nd? Also, is there *anything* in that picture that is still standing? The Terminal Tower is in the background, but it looks totally black meaning it's probably the steel structure (no facade yet). Maybe 1928?
May 3, 20196 yr I remember driving down Ninth as a kid and passing by the Roxy (10th picture...now PNC Building) and seeing those huge pictures of barely dressing ladies and being hugely impressed.?
May 3, 20196 yr Ugh the Carnegie photo...So much lost in this area. This was basically our equivalent to Toronto's Queen St West neighborhood. All completely wiped out. And there are actually a number of guilty parties...ODOT, Cleveland State, St Vincent, Tri-C. To answer the question of when Carnegie was punched through to connect with Lorain...using Historic Aerials topo maps, it appears it was sometime between 1950 and 1955. That was probably the beginning to the end for this poor neighborhood.
May 3, 20196 yr Insidently, the projects were the 1st thing to blast huge holes in the neighborhood. And this knowledge may be lost to time, but the presence of the projects on Cedar may have caused engineers to swoop I77 back west towards downtown as opposed to continuing north from E30th & Woodland and allowing I90/71 to hit I77 there.
May 13, 20196 yr Looking west down Euclid Avenue from East 55th (aka Penn Square) in 1929...... Zoom Edited May 13, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 14, 20196 yr 22 hours ago, KJP said: Looking west down Euclid Avenue from East 55th (aka Penn Square) in 1929...... Zoom It's sad to see these old photos of Cleveland's East side and to see what was and what has become of it. This photo, E.55 and Woodland area, League park area (even the W. 6th area downtown)...all those beautiful brick buildings and density...gone. ? Urban destruction via politicians and the riots...the decisions NOT to build a subway system...The landscape of this city would look so much different. I was just at E 55 and Carnegie today taking at fire truck to the shop and was looking at the giant brick building just to the East of that intersection and thinking I hope it isn't doomed to be torn down. So many of these old jewels have been, it's a shame.
May 15, 20196 yr On 5/13/2019 at 4:55 PM, KJP said: Looking west down Euclid Avenue from East 55th (aka Penn Square) in 1929...... Zoom US 322 followed Euclid Ave?
May 15, 20196 yr 8 hours ago, Magyar said: US 322 followed Euclid Ave? The portion of Chester from E 55th to University Circle wasn't built until the mid-1930s, so 322 originally ran down Euclid.
May 15, 20196 yr 16 hours ago, cfdwarrior said: It's sad to see these old photos of Cleveland's East side and to see what was and what has become of it. This photo, E.55 and Woodland area, League park area (even the W. 6th area downtown)...all those beautiful brick buildings and density...gone. ? Urban destruction via politicians and the riots...the decisions NOT to build a subway system...The landscape of this city would look so much different. I was just at E 55 and Carnegie today taking at fire truck to the shop and was looking at the giant brick building just to the East of that intersection and thinking I hope it isn't doomed to be torn down. So many of these old jewels have been, it's a shame. "YEAH BUT WHERE CAN I PARK!?!?"
May 16, 20196 yr On 5/14/2019 at 3:22 PM, cfdwarrior said: It's sad to see these old photos of Cleveland's East side and to see what was and what has become of it. This photo, E.55 and Woodland area, League park area (even the W. 6th area downtown)...all those beautiful brick buildings and density...gone. ? Urban destruction via politicians and the riots...the decisions NOT to build a subway system...The landscape of this city would look so much different. I was just at E 55 and Carnegie today taking at fire truck to the shop and was looking at the giant brick building just to the East of that intersection and thinking I hope it isn't doomed to be torn down. So many of these old jewels have been, it's a shame. See my East 55th article at: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/04/developers-discover-midtowns-other-axis.html On 5/15/2019 at 7:57 AM, TPH2 said: The portion of Chester from E 55th to University Circle wasn't built until the mid-1930s, so 322 originally ran down Euclid. Actually @TPH2, that portion of Chester wasn't built until after WWII. My father, as a teenager in the early 1940s, was riding in a car with his older brother heading on Chester toward East 55th. When they got to 55th, my uncle Frank said to my dad "Someday this road will go east to University Circle." When it did, it made it less attractive to walk from densely populated Hough to the Euclid Avenue commercial district. This was Hough (looking west toward downtown) in 1949, and you can see the fresh scar that the newly extended Chester was (upper left)..... Edited May 16, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 17, 20196 yr On 5/16/2019 at 7:18 AM, cfdwarrior said: ^I threw up in my mouth a little... ha -- you can see where his one track ideas came from via his work:
May 21, 20196 yr Terrific photo posted on the Landmarks Commission site today -- showing construction work starting in 1915 on the streetcar subway approach to the new Detroit-Superior bridge. The location/direction of view is labeled....... The portal to the subway is at the far-upper left..... Edited May 21, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 22, 20196 yr None of these venues still stand... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 23, 20196 yr On 5/21/2019 at 11:44 PM, KJP said: None of these venues still stand... I feel so old. I remember the Alhambra. I remember Super Fly opening there and every Black person in Cleveland wanting to see it, THERE. I remember my parents, Aunts and Uncles going to vel's for the parties. It was Black Cleveland on display and beautiful. I remember Win/Jam studios, Mr. Johns (IIRC my brother, and male cousins and I all had matching kids furs from here), Boon Docks Seafood, The Wig Shops, the Pussy Cat theater, Winston's Restaurant. Black artists would go to Record Den for autograph signings.
May 31, 20196 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 3, 20196 yr Does anyone know where these buildings used to exist? Found on pinterest https://www.pinterest.com/pin/291608144618377130 Edited June 3, 20196 yr by Eastside
June 3, 20196 yr ^ they were part of the neighborhood that was cleared for the terminal tower project
June 3, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, JSC216 said: ^ they were part of the neighborhood that was cleared for the terminal tower project I obviously wouldn't trade the terminal tower for anything.... but those are beautiful
June 3, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, YABO713 said: I obviously wouldn't trade the terminal tower for anything.... but those are beautiful I easily would if we could have guaranteed that the entire neighborhood would still be intact. Most likely it would have been demolished for parking or other less iconic buildings though.
June 3, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Eastside said: Does anyone know where these buildings used to exist? Found on pinterest https://www.pinterest.com/pin/291608144618377130 This is part of a collection on Cleveland Memory. There are lots more from this project. http://www.clevelandmemory.org/cut-coll/index.html
June 4, 20196 yr 14 hours ago, Eastside said: Does anyone know where these buildings used to exist? Found on pinterest https://www.pinterest.com/pin/291608144618377130 Yes, they were here (arrow shows general view/direction of camera) along with a zoom of the same view in 1886. Note that these maps were from 36 years before the above photograph was taken. BTW, South Water Street here was later renamed Columbus Road. Champlain Street was erased by the Cleveland Union Terminal development which prompted dozens of "before" photos taken and posted in the CUT collection at the Cleveland Memory Project.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 4, 20196 yr ^ I like the old practice of naming downtown streets after lakes. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
June 4, 20196 yr Does anyone know about that CCC&IRR train station in that historic map? I'd never heard of that before.
June 4, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, ryanfrazier said: Does anyone know about that CCC&IRR train station in that historic map? I'd never heard of that before. Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati & Indianapolis Railway. After mergers it later became the Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago & St. Louis (Big Four) Railway.
June 4, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, ryanfrazier said: Does anyone know about that CCC&IRR train station in that historic map? I'd never heard of that before.
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