August 20, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 22, 20204 yr I've recently discovered the Plain Dealer archives...there is some incredible historic stuff. https://cuyahogalibrary.org/Research/Resources/Plain-Dealer-Historical For example, I've found a whole series of Superman comics published daily in the Plain Dealer beginning in 1940 from a certain Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster: Here's a neat little snapshot in time:
August 22, 20204 yr Awesome film from Cleveland four years before I became a part of it! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 25, 20204 yr More text than photos, but very interesting thread! Edited August 25, 20204 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 31, 20204 yr Not a photo because there were no cameras then.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 31, 20204 yr What an amazing urban neighborhood scene in the first view "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 3, 20204 yr Amazing thread - the area that became Terminal Tower complex just prior to excavation in the ‘20s. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
September 3, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Amazing thread - the area that became Terminal Tower complex just prior to excavation in the ‘20s. \ I was just going to post that too! Love the photos. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 3, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, KJP said: I was just going to post that too! Love the photos. Ha, I was rushing to post it because I knew you would as soon as you saw it. Hey Dan Miller, are you an UrbanOhio member? Your Tweets are great! When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
September 3, 20204 yr Honestly, I love the Terminal Tower itself, but I would take that fine-grained, human-scale neighborhood over Tower City's giganticism any day.
September 3, 20204 yr @freefourur Look up a few posts ? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 3, 20204 yr 2 minutes ago, KJP said: @freefourur Look up a few posts ? oops...i guess i should've scrolled up.
September 4, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, freefourur said: some great photos in this thread. It still shocks me to see how much US cities have been demolished and rebuilt in the past 100 years. Particularly when I see pictures from the early 1920s, before too many demolitions for parking, how drastically every American city has changed. Will we rebuild our cities to the same degree in another 100 years?
September 4, 20204 yr 9 hours ago, westerninterloper said: It still shocks me to see how much US cities have been demolished and rebuilt in the past 100 years. Particularly when I see pictures from the early 1920s, before too many demolitions for parking, how drastically every American city has changed. Will we rebuild our cities to the same degree in another 100 years? While it likely won't be for cars, I imagine we'll repeat our mistakes based on some new technology/logistics. It's what humans do.
September 4, 20204 yr 37 minutes ago, YABO713 said: While it likely won't be for cars, I imagine we'll repeat our mistakes based on some new technology/logistics. It's what Americans humans do. Slight fix necessary.
September 4, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 4, 20204 yr 18 hours ago, freefourur said: some great photos in this thread. My mom's side of the family grew up in the Haymarket/Big Italy. We sure do love slum clearance. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
September 5, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 7, 20204 yr So I just realized that this is Jesse Owen’s birth house and has pretty much fallen into disrepair. such a shame https://www.google.com/maps/place/2178+E+100th+St,+Cleveland,+OH+44106/@41.4989213,-81.6183327,3a,75y,257.69h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sEpbecdvoGckXbEx-noA7oA!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830fb9c14cc403f:0x23dd9d7eb60eb033?hl=en-us
September 7, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, YABO713 said: So I just realized that this is Jesse Owen’s birth house and has pretty much fallen into disrepair. such a shame https://www.google.com/maps/place/2178+E+100th+St,+Cleveland,+OH+44106/@41.4989213,-81.6183327,3a,75y,257.69h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sEpbecdvoGckXbEx-noA7oA!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830fb9c14cc403f:0x23dd9d7eb60eb033?hl=en-us Jesse Owens was born in Alabama in 1913 and moved to Cleveland in 1922. So while it may be the house he grew up in, he wasn’t born there. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
September 9, 20204 yr Wow, Americans sure destroyed their cities in the 20th century and wanted to decimate them even more than they did. Hopefully we can devote the 21st century to rebuilding our cities and making them livable for people and not just their vehicles.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 13, 20204 yr Cleveland didn't turn its back on the lake. It used the lakefront for the primary driver of jobs 100 + years ago. And it takes a lot time and effort to acquire, clear and clean up that landscape in the post-industrial era.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 13, 20204 yr I’m guessing this has been previously shared since it’s been on YouTube for a year, but first time I’ve seen it:
September 14, 20204 yr I wish this picture was bigger, but what an amazing looking area that's now mostly gone. Although the building at right is still there. This view is looking west along Payne toward downtown from East 55th... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 16, 20204 yr Not a very good photo from 1977 but it gives you a sense of what a seedy mess the Warehouse District used to be..... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 16, 20204 yr 28 minutes ago, KJP said: Not a very good photo from 1977 but it gives you a sense of what a seedy mess the Warehouse District used to be..... I remember. I remember. Don't forget the porn palace across the street on the southwest corner. Also, a few years before this pic I bought my first two "grown up" sport coats at Jay Vee which was on the same side of West Sixth as Capitol but more north. A traditional blue blazer for my senior year photo and a light pink "Johnny Carson". Oh the mistakes of our youth.
September 20, 20204 yr The grand salon of the City of Cleveland III, of the Detroit &Cleveland Navigation Company. The ship ran from 1907 until it was damaged in a collision in 1950; finally scrapped in 1956. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
September 25, 20204 yr I'd never seen a street-level view of the intersection of East 105th and St. Clair during Glenville's peak, but I knew it had to be an awesome bit of Cleveland neighborhood-scale urbanity. And it was.... Then..... Now.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 26, 20204 yr 2 minutes ago, Sapper Daddy said: This is really cool. Public Square, 1907. I love this to show to the "buses shouldn't be in Public Square" crowd!
September 26, 20204 yr I would say the anti-bus crowd is not the same as the anti-street car crowd (if such a thing exists).
September 26, 20204 yr More transit historical film, this time from 1970....... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 28, 20204 yr Including the area south of it which was leveled for the central interchange.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 28, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 30, 20204 yr From @TPH2 And "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 3, 20204 yr Looking east along Superior Avenue.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 7, 20204 yr In 1940, the Central neighborhood had 100,000 residents. By 1990, it had 10,000. It's gone up a few thousand residents since then. But this is a view of the Central neighborhood in July 1952 with downtown beyond, before the highways as well as public housing, Tri-C and other public institutions came with their monolithic buildings and large lawns. This was a heavily African-American neighborhood going back to World War I and also had a mix of Italian and Greek residents here, giving the area at the southeast edge of downtown the names Big Italy and The Roaring Third District, owing to the many illegal bars, gambling dens and whorehouses. But there were also lots of grocers, food terminals, wholesale food distributors and some of the best jazz clubs in the city. But since the area had a bad reputation ("better behave or you'll end up on Scovill someday" mothers warned their children back then), the solution was to knock it all down rather than rebuild it. The end result was the elimination of a neighborhood and pushing its problems east into already vulnerable Midtown and Hough.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 7, 20204 yr Unreal. What a waste. I remember those warehouses just SW of the cold storage building (I77 squeezed between them), they were such eyesores at the time but still so interesting to a 6 year old kid. Pass them heading south and you immediately started to smell the steel mills.
October 14, 20204 yr Here's some then & now pics "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 14, 20204 yr Maybe not the correct thread - but is there a way we could've built our highways in a manner that wasn't so impactful on our neighborhoods?
October 14, 20204 yr 6 minutes ago, YABO713 said: Maybe not the correct thread - but is there a way we could've built our highways in a manner that wasn't so impactful on our neighborhoods? Move to Europe? ?
October 14, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, YABO713 said: Maybe not the correct thread - but is there a way we could've built our highways in a manner that wasn't so impactful on our neighborhoods? Yes, follow the original interstate highway plan that Eisenhower endorsed -- not building highways into cities. All rural interstates were to end at a beltway around the cities. At the end of his administration, Eisenhower saw a major construction project in Washington DC. He asked one of his aides what it was and he replied "Why, that's your interstate highway program Mr. President." Eisenhowever was furious. Edited October 14, 20204 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 14, 20204 yr 8 minutes ago, KJP said: All rural interstates were to end at a beltway around the cities. Like Europe with their "ring-roads".
October 14, 20204 yr now now now lets not get too fired up about the flats whats done is done pirates cove 3/24/1977 peabodys ital
October 14, 20204 yr 5 minutes ago, mrnyc said: now now now lets not get too fired up about the flats whats done is done God I miss Peabody's Down Under. I remember looking in the Plain Dealer years back, there was a section that listed live music venues and the groups playing. When I was younger I would circle the ones I wanted to go to and found lots of circles at Peabody's.
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