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^ Are you certain KJP[/member]? That looks a little like Euclid, particular where Geigers currently is next to Heinen's a little off and to the left. I trust you more than me re: this picture, just an observation.

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KJP is right. It's a view south down E105th from a building on the west side of the street. The old OCPM Building (tall one on the other side of the street in the background) is at the corner of Carnegie.

Great find, never seen this photo. Amazing. Instead we have a 6 lane street with terrible Clinic buildings in its place.

Years ago when just starting college I worked with a guy who used to to tend bar at a joint on that corner.  I guess it was THE place to be in Cleveland for quite some time.  He served Sinatra, Babe Ruth, etc at whatever bar it was.  Such a huge shame this area was never saved.

Yes. Note the narrow street. The building at left is a residential hotel called the Hotel Haddam with a Walgreen's, Fanny Farmer, Atlantic & Pacific grocer and more on the ground floor. It was a massive building. I'll pull up another photo of it shortly. In the background is an eight-story office building at the NE corner of East 105th and Carnegie that the Cleveland Clinic demolished about 2010, which W28th mentioned.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Here's a terrific set from 1956 documenting the conditions on all four of "Doan's Corners" -- aka the intersection of Euclid Avenue and East 105th Street, aka Cleveland's second downtown. It was a place for people to gather, going back to 1799 when frontiersmen including settler Nathaniel Doan set up a tavern, a general store and a baking soda factory here. The area steadily grew through the 1800s, adding stores, churches, small industries, a hotel, and a post office. The area became part of East Cleveland Township in 1866 and 6 years later was annexed to Cleveland. By the early 20th century, Cleveland's rapidly growing population soon swallowed the historic crossroads village and turned into a satellite downtown.

 

That densification was supported by two major streetcar/interurban lines were built through here. Combined, these rail services brought more than 150,000 passengers per day through here, including from as far away as Garrettsville, Burton, Chardon, Painesville and Ashtabula. Not only was Doan's Corners of service to the rapidly growing and densifying Hough and Fairfax neighborhoods, but it was also where wealthy residents from the Heights came for nightlife or shopping if they didn't want to slog their through 30 minutes of horrific Euclid Avenue traffic to go all the way downtown. That traffic was the reason why the intersection of Doan (East 105th) and Euclid avenues in 1914 was the chosen site for America's first electric traffic signal, one of many inventions by Clevelander Garrett Morgan (dubbed the Black Thomas Edison). A year later, Doan Avenue would be renamed East 105th, as all Cleveland's north-south streets lost their word names for numbered names.

 

So what could you do here at Doan's Corners? A lot! You could see vaudeville, other live entertainment or enjoy a day of motion pictures and newsreels at the Park Theater, Keith's 105th Street Theater, The Circle Theater, the University Theater, or the Alhambra Theater. Yes, FIVE theaters! Or you could go shopping including at Bailey's Department Store or S.S. Kresge's. You could enjoy a late-night meal at a drug store, the Hotel Regent Grill, Clark's Restaurant (as my dad would do after going to a show), or imbibe something a little stronger at Doan's Tavern. You could do 24-hour shopping at Walgreen's, Woolworth's, Daily's or Gray's Drug or enjoy a burger or malt at their soda fountains (as my dad also did!). You could do your banking at the elegant Uptown branch of Cleveland Trust Bank. You could also buy or repair shoes at several retailers at Doan's Corners, get candy at Fanny Farmer's, buy or repair your bowling ball at AAA Ebonite Sales, and use the bowling ball at the Alhambra Lanes. Oh, by the way, there were also many large residential hotels in the area including the Regent, Haddam (site of the last, sickening episode of the Glenville Shootout), Fenway (still stands), Park (still stands), Euclid-105th Apartments, and many more.

 

Just after World War II, in 1946, Doan's Corners was still a very bustling neighborhood. It was still served by articulated streetcars that could carry 150 passengers standing, one of the few routes in Cleveland that had these extra-long streetcars and they ran so often that there was "always a streetcar in sight" (or so the slogan says). There had been occasional subway plans going back to the 1910s but two world wars and a depression interrupted them. And my 17-year-old father could have been down there on one of those busy sidewalks, on his way to a show or to dinner as he often did. I remember my father lamenting the loss of these theaters, even as he was involved with Ray Shepardson in trying to raise money to save Playhouse Square's theaters from the wrecking ball. But all was right in 1946....

 

36386939410_4cb3433715_b.jpgEast105th-Euclid-1946 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

 

 

In the photo above, take note of the four-story building with the apartments above, the Walgreen's ad, and the ground-floor Gray's Drug on the SW corner of East 105th and Euclid. It will be replaced with a shorter, two-story building in the decade-later photos below...

 

A decade later in the winter of 1956, some unknown photographer strolled around Doan's Corners, documenting all four corners as if he knew that this scene wouldn't last much longer. The streetcars were gone five years earlier, replaced with electric trolley buses on both the Eeclid and East 105th routes but carried far fewer riders. And, through the 1950s, not enough people in municipal, state and federal leadership positions appreciated the magnitude of one of the greatest population shifts in American history, as millions of poor black farmers from the south were displaced by mechanized farming. They came north looking for work in the industrial belt's booming factories, where you could literally walk in off the street and get an assembly line job that could support an entire family -- depending on the color of your skin. So many people came north to Cleveland that a housing crisis emerged, especially on the East Side. Four families would be jammed into what had been a single-family home. Dozens of families would be crammed into apartment blocks designed only with four, six or eight units. And thousands more were pushed out of the Central neighborhood that was being razed for the Willow Freeway (I-77) and the Central Interchange. They were squeezed into nearby Hough where it population tripled to 76,000 residents by 1960, and was turned from 90 percent white in 1950 to 80 percent black in 1960.

 

And yet the good factory jobs were hard to find for blacks, even in the robust 1950s. They would get even more scarce, causing isolation, despair, drug use and ultimately violence that would spill over into Cleveland's second downtown despite the best efforts of black real estate investor Winston E. Willis who brought in some successful businesses but also some seedy ones like the Bedroom Lounge and the Love Nest showing live sex acts. Yet there was also the Scrumpy Dump Theater that had family productions as well as 1970s Blaxploitation movies like Shaft, Blacula, Cleopatra Jones and Cotton Comes to Harlem. In the summer of 1972, the Scrumpy-Dump hosted the first-run opening of the major theatrical motion picture release of Super Fly. But the black neighborhood center was viewed as an eyesore by the fathers of the expanding campuses of Cleveland Clinic, CWRU, University Hospitals and other institutions. When Willis was convicted of passing bad checks (many claimed it was a trumped-up charge), his buildings were seized by eminent domain and demolished. That was the end of Doan's Corners as we knew the neighborhood.

 

Here is what it looked like in its last years as Cleveland's Second Downtown....

 

NORTHEAST CORNER

35974934893_09f971a51c_b.jpgEast 105th Euclid-NE corner1956s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

 

1900 BLOCK OF EAST 105TH, JUST NORTH OF DOAN'S CORNERS

36386897340_4bdfcd03e7_b.jpgEast 105th Euclid-NE1 corner1956s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

 

LOOKING SOUTHEAST FROM THE 10300 BLOCK OF EUCLID

36783823125_4649983556_b.jpgEast 105th Euclid-SW1 corner1956s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

 

SOUTHEAST CORNER

35949295024_c66d8085e7_b.jpgEast 105th Euclid-SE corner1956s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

 

NORTHWEST CORNER

36613861632_b876f3091c_b.jpgEast 105th Euclid-NW corner1956s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

 

Hope you enjoyed this rare look at Doan's Corners in its final years of intactness....

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ You have to love all of that retail signage. To me it evokes a real feeling of vibrance.

 

Thanks for posting!!

Since I can't "like" posts on the mobile site, I'll just say the writeup and pics are awesome.

Yeah, that was great stuff KJP.  Thanks for the history lesson.

"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

Glad to do it. I wish I could do this stuff full time. :)

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I shared a link to my post above on Twitter and someone, asking about the Blue Rock Spring House (see: https://case.edu/ech/articles/b/blue-rock-spring-house/) sent to me part of his grandfather's memoirs....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Wow, those pictures are incredible KJP. So sad to see what was lost.

Amazing set, KJP.  I always wonder what this corner, and much of Euclid we today call Midtown would have looked had those WWI-era plans for a subway up Euclid had materialized.  There was so much density in/around that old Uptown/Doan's Corner era.  So many apartment buildings along Euclid were bulldozed, just like Doan's Corner -- in 1950 Cleveland had 914,000 people within the same borders of today -- or 11,870 people per square mile (Chicago's density today is 11,898) -- today Cleveland barely has 5,000/square mile.  It's breathtaking to consider what we lost over, really, a mere 30-year period. 

I posted many of these pictures on Twitter in recent days and some asked if this was actually downtown. They did not know that this scale of development had existed outside of downtown. Of course, the reason they didn't know is because no building within a block of this intersection survived, except for Fenway Manor. All of it was demolished before the early 1980s.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

i was about to say, i can recall when some of that stock was still there. it was decrepit by then of course. such a shame and rather unbelievable to lose basically everything, an entire second downtown.

 

otoh what can you say, despite cool signage and actual street life, it wasn't that great stock to start with and it certainly wasn't being cared about for decades. also, where would the city be today without the rise of the clinic? certainly there was a middle ground to be found somewhere here, possibly to keep some of the bones of the urban heritage, but that path wasn't chosen by the boomer generation in charge of its destiny.

^Maybe the Clinic could have expanded in a sustainable manner instead of completely obliterating what would probably by now be a dynamic, fully revitalized neighborhood that helped jumpstart the revitalization of Hough and Glenville to the north, and Fairfax to the south, attracting potentially even greater staff and accolades from around the world due to its good work.

We could have had the Clinic and this scenario with a little foresight and compassion for the neighborhood, two traits I assumed doctors would maintain as a profession. Instead we have the complete opposite.

It would have been really cool if the Clinic had just bought and renovated the area into offices and made it sort of an administration hub for themselves or something. Kind of like how the University of Dayton bought all of the slumlord properties near the school and essentially privatized a whole neighborhood. Some of those buildings look like they could have been pretty easily gutted and reconfigured for some sort of Clinic use. But of course that wasn't the thinking then, and they still aren't thinking like that today.

“To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”

^Hard to say what would have happened... I remember when there was a remnant of density at Doan's Corner, too, but by then Winston Willis owned the leftover buildings and it had gotten seedy... not just to blame him, because there were other forces that were at work (as Ken's post noted) that led to this ... as well as the decline and destruction of much of the Hough neighborhood, which was the most densely populated area of Cleveland by far through the 1950s.  Maybe the Clinic indirectly led to this demise or maybe they simply took advantage of it.

 

I mentioned that a subway line and station at the corner built in the 20s or early 30s (as several plans materialized during the 19-teens and 20s), would have likely led to Uptown's survival largely in tact.  I stand by that.  But a subway is always easier said than done, esp in middle-sized metro areas and especially in this case.. On the surface a Roaring 20s Euclid subway (mixed metaphor, I know) was seemingly a no-brainer,  but looking at that great Cleveland historical map link from (I'm guessing) the early 1920s and recalling the subway commission report of 1919, there were a number of obstacles, notably the scattered industrial uses spreading up Euclid and the pockets of low-density mansions, that apparently extended even beyond E. 55th and the elevated rail line.  As Doan's graphically demonstrated, then as now, Cleveland has always had pockets of high energy with low density/low energy districts in between.  The City has always seemingly had somewhat haphazard growth, unlike more planned cities like Chicago, which of course was 'lucky' enough to burn down in 1871 just when it was at the doorstep of explosive growth ... presenting planners a blank pallet upon which to plan.  Heavy industry stemming from Rocky's Standard Oil was obviously a Cleveland growth blessing, but likewise proved an urban planning curse -- witness our lake shore vs. Chicago's as a harsh example.

Very believable colorizing job. Well done....

 

#Cleveland 1900s - colorized @LeagueParkCle at the corner of East 66th St. & Linwood Ave. #ThisWasCLE https://t.co/j7RX2VT2jU

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Here's a terrific set from 1956 documenting the conditions on all four of "Doan's Corners" -- aka the intersection of Euclid Avenue and East 105th Street, aka Cleveland's second downtown. It was a place for people to gather, going back to 1799 when frontiersmen including settler Nathaniel Doan set up a tavern, a general store and a baking soda factory here. The area steadily grew through the 1800s, adding stores, churches, small industries, a hotel, and a post office. The area became part of East Cleveland Township in 1866 and 6 years later was annexed to Cleveland. By the early 20th century, Cleveland's rapidly growing population soon swallowed the historic crossroads village and turned into a satellite downtown.

 

That densification was supported by two major streetcar/interurban lines were built through here. Combined, these rail services brought more than 150,000 passengers per day through here, including from as far away as Garrettsville, Burton, Chardon, Painesville and Ashtabula. Not only was Doan's Corners of service to the rapidly growing and densifying Hough and Fairfax neighborhoods, but it was also where wealthy residents from the Heights came for nightlife or shopping if they didn't want to slog their through 30 minutes of horrific Euclid Avenue traffic to go all the way downtown. That traffic was the reason why the intersection of Doan (East 105th) and Euclid avenues in 1914 was the chosen site for America's first electric traffic signal, one of many inventions by Clevelander Garrett Morgan (dubbed the Black Thomas Edison). A year later, Doan Avenue would be renamed East 105th, as all Cleveland's north-south streets lost their word names for numbered names.

 

So what could you do here at Doan's Corners? A lot! You could see vaudeville, other live entertainment or enjoy a day of motion pictures and newsreels at the Park Theater, Keith's 105th Street Theater, The Circle Theater, the University Theater, or the Alhambra Theater. Yes, FIVE theaters! Or you could go shopping including at Bailey's Department Store or S.S. Kresge's. You could enjoy a late-night meal at a drug store, the Hotel Regent Grill, Clark's Restaurant (as my dad would do after going to a show), or imbibe something a little stronger at Doan's Tavern. You could do 24-hour shopping at Walgreen's, Woolworth's, Daily's or Gray's Drug or enjoy a burger or malt at their soda fountains (as my dad also did!). You could do your banking at the elegant Uptown branch of Cleveland Trust Bank. You could also buy or repair shoes at several retailers at Doan's Corners, get candy at Fanny Farmer's, buy or repair your bowling ball at AAA Ebonite Sales, and use the bowling ball at the Alhambra Lanes. Oh, by the way, there were also many large residential hotels in the area including the Regent, Haddam (site of the last, sickening episode of the Glenville Shootout), Fenway (still stands), Park (still stands), Euclid-105th Apartments, and many more.

 

Just after World War II, in 1946, Doan's Corners was still a very bustling neighborhood. It was still served by articulated streetcars that could carry 150 passengers standing, one of the few routes in Cleveland that had these extra-long streetcars and they ran so often that there was "always a streetcar in sight" (or so the slogan says). There had been occasional subway plans going back to the 1910s but two world wars and a depression interrupted them. And my 17-year-old father could have been down there on one of those busy sidewalks, on his way to a show or to dinner as he often did. I remember my father lamenting the loss of these theaters, even as he was involved with Ray Shepardson in trying to raise money to save Playhouse Square's theaters from the wrecking ball. But all was right in 1946....

 

36386939410_4cb3433715_b.jpgEast105th-Euclid-1946 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

 

 

In the photo above, take note of the four-story building with the apartments above, the Walgreen's ad, and the ground-floor Gray's Drug on the SW corner of East 105th and Euclid. It will be replaced with a shorter, two-story building in the decade-later photos below...

 

A decade later in the winter of 1956, some unknown photographer strolled around Doan's Corners, documenting all four corners as if he knew that this scene wouldn't last much longer. The streetcars were gone five years earlier, replaced with electric trolley buses on both the Eeclid and East 105th routes but carried far fewer riders. And, through the 1950s, not enough people in municipal, state and federal leadership positions appreciated the magnitude of one of the greatest population shifts in American history, as millions of poor black farmers from the south were displaced by mechanized farming. They came north looking for work in the industrial belt's booming factories, where you could literally walk in off the street and get an assembly line job that could support an entire family -- depending on the color of your skin. So many people came north to Cleveland that a housing crisis emerged, especially on the East Side. Four families would be jammed into what had been a single-family home. Dozens of families would be crammed into apartment blocks designed only with four, six or eight units. And thousands more were pushed out of the Central neighborhood that was being razed for the Willow Freeway (I-77) and the Central Interchange. They were squeezed into nearby Hough where it population tripled to 76,000 residents by 1960, and was turned from 90 percent white in 1950 to 80 percent black in 1960.

 

And yet the good factory jobs were hard to find for blacks, even in the robust 1950s. They would get even more scarce, causing isolation, despair, drug use and ultimately violence that would spill over into Cleveland's second downtown despite the best efforts of black real estate investor Winston E. Willis who brought in some successful businesses but also some seedy ones like the Bedroom Lounge and the Love Nest showing live sex acts. Yet there was also the Scrumpy Dump Theater that had family productions as well as 1970s Blaxploitation movies like Shaft, Blacula, Cleopatra Jones and Cotton Comes to Harlem. In the summer of 1972, the Scrumpy-Dump hosted the first-run opening of the major theatrical motion picture release of Super Fly. But the black neighborhood center was viewed as an eyesore by the fathers of the expanding campuses of Cleveland Clinic, CWRU, University Hospitals and other institutions. When Willis was convicted of passing bad checks (many claimed it was a trumped-up charge), his buildings were seized by eminent domain and demolished. That was the end of Doan's Corners as we knew the neighborhood.

 

Here is what it looked like in its last years as Cleveland's Second Downtown....

 

NORTHEAST CORNER

35974934893_09f971a51c_b.jpgEast 105th Euclid-NE corner1956s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

 

1900 BLOCK OF EAST 105TH, JUST NORTH OF DOAN'S CORNERS

36386897340_4bdfcd03e7_b.jpgEast 105th Euclid-NE1 corner1956s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

 

LOOKING SOUTHEAST FROM THE 10300 BLOCK OF EUCLID

36783823125_4649983556_b.jpgEast 105th Euclid-SW1 corner1956s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

 

SOUTHEAST CORNER

35949295024_c66d8085e7_b.jpgEast 105th Euclid-SE corner1956s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

 

NORTHWEST CORNER

36613861632_b876f3091c_b.jpgEast 105th Euclid-NW corner1956s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

 

Hope you enjoyed this rare look at Doan's Corners in its final years of intactness....

 

Check out the Cleveland Trust Building, besides the columns, it has the same iron fencing as the 9th street bank. 

 

All of these pictures just to look at, its like a lost city

The first Cleveland water works engine house circa 1856 at Kentucky and Lakefront #ThisWasCLE https://t.co/qkDOgrvh5t

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Other than Key Tower, in my lifetime I'd never seen anything but a parking lot at this site on Public Square, which was a blight for decades. Prior to being razed, the Chamber of Commerce building was a handsome example of Peabody & Stern's revival architecture. But what I didn't know until now was the original idiom was to be French Renaissance. Other than a rusticated base, figurine pillars, and a trio of arches near the cornice, this is an entirely different design from what was built.

Image of Superior Ave. at W. 9th ca. 1860s....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^Where was that cover picture taken?

Looking east on Euclid Avenue toward the East 105th intersection.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^that's your spot, KJP[/member] !!

Looking east on Euclid Avenue toward the East 105th intersection.

 

No, that's got to be the Upper East Side of Manhattan.

Very believable colorizing job. Well done....

 

#Cleveland 1900s - colorized @LeagueParkCle at the corner of East 66th St. & Linwood Ave. #ThisWasCLE https://t.co/j7RX2VT2jU

 

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Amazing how the color turns a photo from old-timey to more immediate... Nowadays newspapers, mags, websites, etc., are adding false grayscale (aka black & white) images from recent times to make them seem older... most recent example: cleveland.com's photos of the Flats, with some then & now photos from the 1980s of D'Poos on the Water restaurant.  I'm like, wait a minute, they had color back then ... I was alive way back then!

Looking NE from Carnegie Ave up Willson (E 55). @thiswascle https://t.co/4YYh8kNbhK

 

 

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And the insurance map above shows the Pennsylvania Railroad station at East 55th and Euclid (PRR continued to served the 1864-built Union Station on the lakefront after Cleveland Union Terminal opened, but this station at Euclid/55th was always the busiest of its Cleveland stations and stayed in service the longest, to 1964. PRR also had Cleveland stations at Woodland/79th and Harvard/Broadway that was torn down only about a decade ago.) This photo was before the PRR tracks were elevated through the East Side in 1915...

 

 

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PRR station at Euclid/55th after the tracks were elevated. PRR ran 20 passenger trains in/out of Cleveland each day circa 1950 from/to its line to Hudson where it split for Akron, Columbus, Cincinnati and St. Louis, and the other busier line going to Ravenna where it split again taking one of two routes (via Youngstown or the faster route via Alliance) to Pittsburgh, Altoona, Harrisburg, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington DC, New York City. The last train ran until 1964, a commuter train to Alliance where it connected with the PRR's Chicago-East Coast mainline. Except the train wasn't scheduled to connect with anything. It's how the railroads sabotaged their own services to get rid of them.

 

 

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The PRR station at Euclid/55th collapsed in 1973, as did much of the East Side in the 1960s and 70s.

 

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Now THIS is history!

JAWS! These "microarthrodire" jaws were collected during I-71 construction in #Cleveland, OH, in 1966. #FossilFriday https://t.co/fmEgFURqq5

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Hough Ave. at East 81st St. ca. 1920s -- more Lost Cleveland

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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A priceless look at #Indians v. #Yankees at Cleveland's League Park in 1920.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 4 weeks later...

A favorite photo from 'Lost Cleveland,' Bond store, 1978, the year the Art Deco masterpiece on Euclid torn down.

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

It would have been great if National City had incorporated the facade into their tower instead of having that big plaza right on the corner like they have now.

“To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”

This was built at the same time (1947) as the Hanny's store in downtown Phoenix AZ. There's just too much similarity to be coincidental IMHO. Question is, which is the original?

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This was built at the same time (1947) as the Hanny's store in downtown Phoenix AZ. There's just too much similarity to be coincidental IMHO. Question is, which is the original?

 

It seems that since the forum has been back up, a lot of the posted pictures are really small (with the exception of KJP's Bond picture).  Anyone know why?  Thanks.

All you have to do is click on the photo and it will automagically resize. Click again to make small.

I actually prefer it this way

BTW, on the previous page of this thread, rather than just rely on a link to a twitter posting, I posted the actual pictures of Wilson/East 55th at Euclid, notably the old Pennsylvania Railroad station that was there for nearly a century.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

All you have to do is click on the photo and it will automagically resize. Click again to make small.

I actually prefer it this way

 

I know, but when I'm reading the forum on my iphone it's really annoying to see such a small picture and then have to click on the photo.  It's two extra steps that aren't necessary.  Do any of the mods know if this issue will be fixed so full size pictures will be appearing as before the crash?

 

 

Another blast from the past, circa 1910.

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

NW Section of @CLEPublicSquare where the monument to Moses Cleaveland was erected. ca. 1920. BTW, every building in this photo was replaced with surface parking lots except the Rockefeller Building at far left....

https://t.co/whmTRBlWf1

 

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The Marshall Building was a great building... is it in the process of being cleaned in this picture?  So sad all of this was lost and to make it worse it was lost for NOTHING.

new years eve in times square in front of cleveland’s bonds

 

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The Marshall Building was a great building... is it in the process of being cleaned in this picture?  So sad all of this was lost and to make it worse it was lost for NOTHING.

 

 

Not to mention they ruined the Marshall Building (Schofield-style) years before tearing it down.

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Richard Hawley Cutting devised earlier conceptions of Erieview up to a decade before Erieview was a thing #CLE #ThisWasCLE ?: @Cleve_Memory https://t.co/YO6sGbafTj

 

Then there's this article. So many tantalizing details. https://t.co/xsUaZwfilS

 

And the Plain Dealer from August 2, 1962 https://t.co/Y5GWZRx4wec

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Prospect and E. 4th in 1912, busy with signage #ThisWasCLE

From @ClevDPL https://t.co/MIs3OlOmZV https://t.co/XxjEZFifVF

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Prospect and E. 4th in 1912, busy with signage #ThisWasCLE

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Interesting.  Sol Bergman jewelers, which heavily advertised for decades and was seen as one of the staple stores, started out as a pawnshop.

There is a pretty good book about Short Vincent in its glory years (say 30s-60s). The original East 4th but with more mobsters. Great jazz scene too there.

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